Was Larry Johnson's contract worth it?
From the diaries. -- Chris
Hi cross state football fans. This is Ryan, aka VanRam, from SBNation's Rams site, TurfShowTimes.
No, I'm not here to talk smack about the prestigious Governor's Cup. I'm here with a question about a certain RB's hefty contract.
Steven Jackson's current contract is set to expire after this season, and there's a debate emerging as to whether or not he's worth the kind of $$ he'll likely command. Larry Johnson's contract from 2007 is the most obvious comparison, so I wanted to gauge fan opinion about the deal.
Do you feel that LJ's contract was worth it? Clearly there was no way to know that he'd suffer a season ending injury, but that's always a risk in football. A contract like that will impact a team's salary cap quite a bit. Do you still feel it's justified given the other needs the team has to address? Anyone here share some of the theory explored in this article that team's shouldn't tie up resources in a star running back?
I'd love to hear your thoughts.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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Don't give huge contracts to overworked running backs. I know the "Curse of 370" is an unprovable abstract idea. But at some point the correlation gets creepy.
by Chris Thorman on Jan 17, 2008 3:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yea they
by Eric on Jan 17, 2008 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not worth it
However, further research by myself shows that RBs are a dime a dozen. Was Priest that great? Was LJ that great? Umm...well behind our line, ya they were that great. The key to everything is the offensive line.
And Chris brings up a great point about the curse of 370. It's not scientific by any means, there's no explanation for it, but most backs don't come back and perform well after hitting that landmark number. I don't need scientific facts or other explanations to tell me that past history scares me on this one.
Steven Jackson is a bit different though. He's so important to your offense specifically. Catching the ball out of the backfield, pounding it, etc. I would just be a bit worried about your offensive line situation. He's going to take a beating next year (even if you get Jake). He wasn't even healthy this year, which isn't a good sign at his age.
Also, with the Rams at least, you guys are in a similar boat to us. You won't be legitimate contenders for a couple years. You need to use that time to build your offensive line and defense. Let's say that takes 2 years (which is being generous). That's 2 more years of pounding the football (probably moreso in the next few years considering your WR corps aren't exactly, um, young), 2 more years of abuse on his body. If, big if, he makes it through those couple years, and you do build up your offense and defense and become legitimate contenders, then you've got a Steven Jackson who has a lot of wear and tear on him and approaching 30 years old (believe he'll be 25 by the time next season starts, so add 3 years of rebuilding to that and he'll be 28).
Optimism certainly wouldn't be the word I used to describe that situation (hey, kinda like the Chiefs...)
by Joel Thorman on Jan 17, 2008 3:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Also
by Joel Thorman on Jan 17, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am
by Eric on Jan 17, 2008 3:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well I for one
*MAWK is thugged from behind, duct tape wrapped around his mouth, and dragged to parts unknown. In his place, the hooded conspirators have placed a clone, Herm Edwards Was Right, Dammnit, or HEWRD.
HEWRD: Well, I for one think that you have to pay running backs what they're worth. You can't predict how a player is going to perform. Your biggest concern should be making sure that they are committed to you in the long run! If there are any problems, just blame it on an O-line that's older than most forests! Pile on the money! Also, Chan Gailey is swell, isn't he? You play! To Win! The Game!
by Ridiculous Matt on Jan 17, 2008 4:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's just me
MAWK, is your affinity for Huard coming back into play?
by Joel Thorman on Jan 17, 2008 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I JUST
by Eric on Jan 17, 2008 4:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
I say Jackson is definitely worth the money. Backs like Action Jackson and No. 27 are hard to come by. Three of the four teams left in the playoffs have Pro Bowl-caliber RBs: Barber, L.T. and Maroney. You have to have that kind of threat to open up the running game.
by arrowheadaddict on Jan 17, 2008 4:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Marion Barber
Gets more carries now. Those yards were only on 200 carries.
*Yet
by Joel Thorman on Jan 17, 2008 6:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I misunderstood
by Eric on Jan 17, 2008 6:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Grant
by Eric on Jan 17, 2008 4:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The offensive line IS important
by PVChiefsfan on Jan 17, 2008 4:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
LJ
by Eric on Jan 17, 2008 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
L.J.
And Marion Barber made the Pro Bowl this year. Look it up.
by arrowheadaddict on Jan 17, 2008 6:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Only if
by Eric on Jan 17, 2008 6:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
come on
by newfan on Jan 17, 2008 7:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He has
by Eric on Jan 17, 2008 8:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In the most simple terms
Since the negotiations started, I have been exceptionally cynical about this kid -- injury or not. I do not think he has the passion for the game or any concept of teamwork. Period.
When I think of what we could have done with that chunk of the salary cap...grrr.
by gritsnyc on Jan 17, 2008 8:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wow
for the record, I tend to agree. after watching enough Chiefs games this season too (I live in Springfield, MO) they look like they could use an o-line almost as bad as the Rams, and i think that's where the money should really be invested, also since the QB is kind of an investment too. and we do know you've got to have a decent one of those...right?
by ryan vb on Jan 18, 2008 8:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jury is out
by Eric on Jan 18, 2008 8:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The question was
To him - Absolutely
To the Team - Jury is still out
To the Fans - Absolutely Not
I have always thought that position players contracts should be simpler.
- They are payed the League minimum as a base plus 10% each year they play in the League.
- Negotiate the percentage or a flat rate for each category of performance they achieve in a single year.
- Add 5% for previous years performance to each offensive category if those expectations were met the previous year.
- Bonuses are paid through a negotiated sum between games played, started and playoff performances.
- Injuries do not count against you other than you do not get money for non performing. You still get your base plus the longevity.
by Lanier63 on Jan 18, 2008 9:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I love the idea Lanier
by Tom Bahali on Jan 18, 2008 11:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
In hind site
by KC Fan in LA on Jan 18, 2008 12:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you
by Chris Thorman on Jan 18, 2008 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Roaf retired before Larry signed, I think Shields
by Tom Bahali on Jan 18, 2008 12:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think that he meant
by PVChiefsfan on Jan 18, 2008 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is it
by Eric on Jan 18, 2008 2:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The only sample we have of LJ
by Joel Thorman on Jan 18, 2008 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We are
by Eric on Jan 18, 2008 5:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Georgia Frontierre
by Eric on Jan 18, 2008 9:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
LJ will return to greatness
by Tom Bahali on Jan 18, 2008 11:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize
by KC Fan in LA on Jan 22, 2008 12:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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