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Open Gameday Thread - Kansas City Chiefs (4-11) v. New York Jets (3-12)

 VS.

When: 3:15, Central time

Where: Giants Stadium, East Rutherford, New Jersey

The Jets on SB Nation: New York Landing Strip

Weather: Currently 37 degrees, high of 41 degrees.

Another game, another season. New York welcomes back its prodigal son Herm Edwards. Boos or cheers? I'm guessing boos.

I'm predicting a 16 to 9 Chiefs win. Six field goals? You betcha. Leave your prediction in the comment section.

Let's get this started.

GO CHIEFS!!!

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Chris always picks the Chiefs
It's bad luck!

27-20 Chiefs

Let's see some offense!

by Joel Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 2:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Go Chefs!
Great ooogly moogly!
Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 2:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Welcome sir eccles
Your prediction for the game?

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 2:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

One of these two teams has to win
High scoring, maybe 35-28, unlikely to be a Chiefs win.

Hmm, when was the last tie game?

Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 3:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Without looking it up
Pittsburgh against somebody in 2001? I think the game ended with Plaxico Burress catching a fifty yard pass at the one yard line. Burress had like 249 yards receiving that day.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wikipedia says
Atlanta v. Pittsburg in 2002.

My wife says "Welcome to the Toilet Bowl".

Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 3:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Inactives
The Kansas City Chiefs have declared OT Adrian Jones, QB David Greene, RB Gilbert Harris, DL James Reed, DL Khreem Smith, TE Michael Allan, LB Mickey Pimentel, OL Travis Leffew inactive for Week 17.

The New York Jets have declared OG Adrien Clarke, CB Andre Dyson, WR Chris Davis, WR David Ball, OG Jacob Bender, P Jeremy Kapinos, QB Marques Tuiasosopo, TE Sean P. Ryan inactive for Week 17.

Interesting that James Reed is inactive. After playing most of the year, thats a clear sign that the Chiefs will put someone younger in one of the defensive tackle positions.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 2:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Beer
Just picked up a six-pack of the Blue Moon seasonal beer, Full Moon. Not bad. Not great but not bad.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 2:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You're going to need it
I haven't been more apathetic towards a Chiefs game in a long, long time.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 2:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Watch
the Chiefs and the other games with our draft position in mind.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Falcons are winning
Which helps us.

Go Rams!

by Joel Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

chiefs victory, unfortunately
As much as I would love a #4 draft pick, i think the chiefs are going to muster a good 20 points, and hold the jets to 20 as well.  This game ends in a tie.  Just kidding.  Sort of. I guess chiefs 23, jets 20.

I'm excited to see the young guys play, and excited for an even higher draft pick if we lose.  Go young guys, and go Chiefs!

by thehulk on Dec 30, 2007 3:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I will be blown away
if we score more than twenty points. We've only scored twenty or more points four times this season.

So sad.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Neither Kearney or Williams got a sack
so if Allen gets 1.5 he should win the sack title...in only 14 games...that guy is a stud.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 3:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Awesome
Thanks for the update.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!
Something to look forward to.

Just received a signed Jared Allen football for Christmas.

Clemens just looked like Huard right there.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You can tell
even the announcers don't sound exciting to cover the game.  

What a miserable end.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Next year
we play at the Jets again.

And we play at the Patriots next year.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Tony G
needs 3 catches ro break the TE single seasaon receptions mark

by Joel Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Oops
10 receptions away from tying his record.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no i think he needs three to break
horseface's all time receptions record.  He needs like 12 to break the single season record which is his (103).

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 3:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh DirecTV
i feel prophetic since i hear Mitch call the play like 3 seconds bfore it happens...first time this has happened...4th down stop!

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 3:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Kolby Smith
is hands down our best runner of the season.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

0-5 is ridiculous
No matter his stats, he's gotta win a game.  Just one.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

what? three and out?
hooray...come on defense.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 3:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Derrick Johnson
was stride for stride with Cochtery on that deep pass.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

In case you're just checking in
Eddie Drummond still can't do shit.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The punt!
Eddie "on ice" Drummond slips again!
Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 3:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Battleship
makes an appearance for an injured Kolby Smith. May be an sprained ankle. He was just carted off the field.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

We're down to Jackie Battle
The cupboard is bare!   Man...

by Joel Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Adverts
If it wasn't for the Budweiser Real Men of Genius, I might have given up listening to games all together!
Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 3:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

go rams!
i hate the rams, but if it helps our draft position...

perfect scenario is all of our young players play well, especially croyle, but we still lose.

i dont want us to lose, per se, but i wont exactly be pissed off...

by rockchalk on Dec 30, 2007 3:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Holthus just dropped the bomb on Drummond
said "I can't imagine how a KR could have a worse uear".

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 3:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Great open thread!
Rolling over here, too. But an open thread isn't an open thread without a Tina Fey name drop. Anybody over here think she's sneaky hot? Besides Chris and I, that is...

by arrowheadaddict on Dec 30, 2007 3:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yikes...
pretty bad pass there from brodie...

who is 99?

by rockchalk on Dec 30, 2007 3:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

kendrell bell making a play..
wow.

cant believe i forgot that.

surprise, surprise, surtain and law still suck.

we better cut them both, they both suck.

by rockchalk on Dec 30, 2007 3:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Falcons won
so I believe that even with a win we wouldn't pick later than 7th.  rams would make it 6th, or if we lose to the jets, maybe 2nd?!?

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 3:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You mean
when we lose to the Jets?
Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 3:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sack
Sack title going to Allen

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 3:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Jared Allen
Two sacks this game. He's got the sack title right?

Fuck. Jets TD.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 3:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wesley and Page
both whiffed on that TD run...jackasses.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 3:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The offense
hasn't done a thing so far.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 4:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Offense?
Wazzat?
Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 4:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Baltimore is up by 17
Looking better for our draft prospects.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 4:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

no first downs
we need a turnover now to get back into this one...personal foul...1st down

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 4:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

1st down
by penalty!
Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 4:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

freakin losing record....
... Is costing me game coverage.

I live in Iowa- DesMoines to be exact.

I've been up since 3 am doing live tv for NBC (today show msnbc).

I knew I wouldnt be home to catch the game on my NFL Ticket, but I felt good knowing that I'd be able to tune into Mitch and the gang on local radio.

Much to my dismay when I tuned in the game at 3 what did I hear but an announcement that due to listener response the Chiefs game was being preempted in favor of womens basketball.  

Could any of you loyal submitters jump in your car and zip up here to dsm and prevent me from jabbing my ears with an icepick???

Never mind.  I'll just keep updating the page.

Keep the posts coming with updates.

Your captive audience,
MV

by mikvogel on Dec 30, 2007 4:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I have to admit
You're not missing much so far.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 4:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Out of curiosity
What work for the today show?

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 4:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

this morning...
 I ran audio for Lee Cowan's live shots outside the Capitol

And just heard that I'll be doing the same for Lee and David Schuster all day on Monday.

Mv

by mikvogel on Dec 30, 2007 4:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Odd spot
Should be a first down.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 4:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Fake punt!
Jon McGraw on the fake for the first down. Tough run.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 4:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

At least
fake punts make this game more exciting

by Joel Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 4:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

our offensive players
are a bunch of ass-hats...wtf man.  Another special teams nightmare...god we can really suck

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 4:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

15 plays
the first 15 plays that are predetermined are apparently run, run, pass to tony, run, run, tony, tony, run...Dwayne Bowe anyone?

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 4:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Rams down 7
Drummond's greatest run of the season.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 4:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Is anyone
eating anything interesting at half? Yes. I'm that bored.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 4:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Shopping
for lingerie right now.
Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 4:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Online?
Or are you on your phone?

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 4:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Online
a) She is the true fan of the family, she even rescheduled our wedding so it didn't clash.

b) She really is that bored.

Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 4:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

three points
one first down by offense

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 4:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kris Wilson
I don't get the obsession with Wilson...can we just go deep to Bowe?

by FoxKC on Dec 30, 2007 4:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
I don't see how he fits in the offense. He's not fast. He doesn't have especially good receiving skills. I don't get it either.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 4:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The offense
sure is roaring now!

(sarcasm)

by Joel Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 4:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

YES!!!
Finally, a kicker that's worth a damn.

by FoxKC on Dec 30, 2007 4:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

3rd and 9
our course...we have 3 linemen and 8 in coverage and they run a draw?  It's like we do exactly the opposite of what would work.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 4:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

D-linemen
are making all the tackles...except 10 yards down the field.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 4:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

And the red zone
defense shows up again. Nice work.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 4:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Drummond
 could run this back and still lose his job.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 4:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Drummond will not be denied!
He was forced out of bounds at the 38 yard line.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 4:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

39 total yards
We have major problems!

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 4:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

second half
Dwayne Bowe will have two TD's...

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 4:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Bowe
Where's D-Bowe been?  I haven't even seen him on the field yet.

by DJ on Dec 30, 2007 4:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The cowboys
only have 79 yards in the 1st half...losing 13 to 3

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 4:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

#3 draft pick here we come
It's a headed that way.  Our entire O-line has cashed it in.

by DJ on Dec 30, 2007 4:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Worst intentional grounding call ever
that was a bunch of shit...the ball went right over battle.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 4:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

hey guys
ive read this blog everyday for a long time so i decided i would make an account so i discuss stuff with u guys but anyways since everything is heading towards the 3rd pick , who do u think we will get?

by chiefs4life82 on Dec 30, 2007 5:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Herm
realizes that Turk is too small to play DT when the offense can run between the tackles...Dorsey and Tyler could be a good pair of young guys to grow up together.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 5:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

welcome...
it's unlikely that we'll go anywhere besides o-line.

There will be LOTS of prognostication between now and April, but you can bet on o-line.

MV

by mikvogel on Dec 30, 2007 5:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

o line is my guess
i mean look what happened to cleveland, they get an offensive lineman and it makes derek anderson look good and rejuvenates jamal lewis  

by chiefs4life82 on Dec 30, 2007 5:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I have some unexplainable dread
concerning drafting a LT in the first round, they get such huge contracts that if they bust, they hurt you for years.  I wouldn't mind taking Long, if we could keep him at RT where he belongs.  But I'd rather have Dorsey.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 5:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Intermission
Great, we pop out for over half an hour to see our neighbors' new baby and what do we miss?

Nothing, nada, nichts, kein!

Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 5:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

We are falling apart
our special teams are disgustingly horrible and while our defense is playing well, they are going to have to score to get us back in this.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 5:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

this sucks....
not only are we doing bad but i also had to start kolby smith in the championship of my league today and he gets hurt before i even had time to turn on the game

by chiefs4life82 on Dec 30, 2007 5:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Defense forces a TO
on downs, but good enough.  Let's get out our tickets to the D-Bowe Show.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 5:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

man,
where have I been all day?

by The DBowe Show on Dec 30, 2007 5:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

O-Line!!!
Croyle must feel like a clay pigeon...damn.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 5:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I got nothing
but a cat asleep on my lap!
Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 5:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Purrrrrr!
Purrrrrrrr!
Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 5:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

About damn time
see what happens when we let him throw it down the field...

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 6:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wakes up
whu what happened?
Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 6:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Right!
Just as soon as the St. Louis powerhouse rams 20 pts down Arizona's throat in the next 8 min.

by Halfbreed5050 on Dec 30, 2007 6:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rams
lost so they will get the 2nd pick.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 6:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

More Trouble
Pittsburgh is coming back on the Ravens

by Halfbreed5050 on Dec 30, 2007 6:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

We need to win
there will not be that much difference between a 3rd and 5th overall pick.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 6:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

1:26 left in the game
Chiefs will get the ball back with the score tied.

Here we go Brodie...

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 6:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

A game winning drive
in this game, for this team, would mean so much.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 6:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Call a tie
let's go home
Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 6:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hi folks.
Anyone interested in fantasy football for the playoffs.  We are starting a league at nfl.com.  

$10 a team, plus a trip to the Superbowl (if you win the whole thing).

Auction Style - 300 units.

Pick 8 players for wild card.
Can trade four the next week.
Two the next week.

Give me your e-mail & I will send you an invite.

Cheers!

Go Chiefs!!

You play to win the game!

by tailgateandwin on Dec 30, 2007 6:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Very Interested...
... Please send me info at mikvogel@gmail.com.

MV

by mikvogel on Dec 30, 2007 6:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

just out of curiosity
even though it's not going to happen cause it looks like the jets are about to end it right now, but how would a tie affect the draft?

by Chiefs n Chopper on Dec 30, 2007 6:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

well
hope for a block
Croyle=stud

by wohs145 on Dec 30, 2007 6:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

holy cow
This is ridiculous.

Please Lord.... please.

Croyle=stud

by wohs145 on Dec 30, 2007 6:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

of course
the end would take forever

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 6:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Oh the humanity!
It's finally over!
Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 6:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

#3 here we come
thank you falcons...

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 6:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

In other news
The NFL overtime system still sucks.

Terribly.

Croyle=stud

by wohs145 on Dec 30, 2007 6:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yeah
get rid of the damn sudden death crap and just make it one extra 15 minute period

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 6:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?
You really wanted to watch another 15 minutes of that?
Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 30, 2007 6:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Croyle
Was finally finding something. If the coaches had let him keep looking down field than we would have a real good win I think. I didn't get to watch the entire game. Did Croyle play as poorly as his stats look?
Croyle=stud

by wohs145 on Dec 30, 2007 6:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Croyle
Bout the same as usual.  Some bad throws, a bunch of dropped balls.

He had guys in his face all day long.  Who knows what he could do with a decent line.

At least there were no interceptions today!

by DJ on Dec 30, 2007 7:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Has anybody heard this?
my friend said that he heard on 810 that Clark Hunt was making some big announcement after the game.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 30, 2007 6:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hunt
A few weeks ago some reporters asked Hunt what he thought of the season and he said he wouldn't comment on it until after the season.  From there I kept hearing people talking about how he was going to have a big press conference right after the game.  LOL

Don't know if this was just a matter of a comment being thrown way out of preportion or what.  I can't imagine he would do it right after the game.

by DJ on Dec 30, 2007 7:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

we get the #3 pick now, right?
ill take that.

hopefully mcfadden drops to us, that would be awfully nice...

by rockchalk on Dec 30, 2007 7:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think so
Depending on how the final strength of schedule works out.

by Chris Thorman on Dec 30, 2007 7:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Choices
So assuming the players most likely to go in the Top 5 are:

Glen Dorsey DT
Darren McFadden RB
Jake Long OT
Matt Ryan QB
Chris Long DE

Who would you prefer to get?

by DJ on Dec 30, 2007 7:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Also
Also you have the Ohio St. Cornerback Malcolm Jenkins in there too.

by DJ on Dec 30, 2007 7:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i like jenkins
but he would be a pretty big reach in the top 10.

i hope mcfadden is available when our pick comes up, and we trade out of it to a team that needs him more. we should get tons of value, and hopefully only drop into the teens.

there, we should take someone like jenkins or a solid LT...

then we would have picked up a couple extra picks, because we have LOTS of holes to fill...

by rockchalk on Dec 30, 2007 11:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no, not that bad
croyle threw roughly 36 times in the game, and he was hit at least half of those times he dropped back, hurried on a lot of the others.  in addition to that, tony gonzalez had 3 or 4 rare drops, in addition to the usual 3 or 4 drops by our wideouts.  it amounted to a statistically awful day for brodie croyle.  but here's how i see this: he did not make a major mistake, no interceptions.  instead, he checked down a bunch, giving himself roughly a 4.0 ypa, which is atrocious.  this is pure coaching.  someone is telling him not to try downfield for fear of the pick, or urging him to look immediately underneath.  i understand there's a fine line between developing a qb and babying him, but i think we're on teh negative side of that right now.  his stats were bad, his play was....what you'd expect from our offense.  hard to make judgments on it.  i'm interested to hear if clark hunt makes a 'major announcement.'  
pat

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Dec 30, 2007 7:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree
I don't know if its Solari, the Offensive Coordinator, or Dick Curl, the QB coach.  But one thing a young QB like Croyle needs is a coach that will guide him in the right direction without making him paranoid.

I don't know if they're telling him to check down too much, I mean he definately isn't afraid to throw into double or triple coverage.

I sincerely hope they ditch Solari (what does an offensive line coach know about developing a QB?) and get an experienced Offensive Coordinator who knows how to develop the QB.

by DJ on Dec 30, 2007 7:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Curl
must go to. We had good quarterback play when Terr Shay was here, we lose Shay then it goes to shit. Jake Long welcome to KC!

by Eric on Dec 30, 2007 9:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

they all need to go...
curl and solari.

herm too, if it isnt too much to ask.

we need a FRESH START!!!

by rockchalk on Dec 30, 2007 11:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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