Open Thread: Kansas City Chiefs v. Pittsburgh Steelers
When: Noon Central time
Where: Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO
Steelers on SBN: Behind the Steel Curtain
NFL TV Maps: Week 11
Complete coverage of this game on AP is here.
Make no bones about it - The Chiefs have a tough game ahead of them today against the Steelers.
Jamaal Charles and Kolby Smith will get probably the biggest test of their young careers against the NFL's #1 ranked run defense. The Chiefs secondary has been torched quite a bit this season - Will it happen this week?
Alright, I'm ready for this game to start. Even though I could never in good conscience put money down on a prediction like this, I like the Chiefs to win in a close game - 20 to 17.
Get your predictions in before the game starts. Joel is back in the press box this week so make sure you tweet him any questions you may have at @ArrowheadPride.
GOOOOOOOOOOOO CHIEFS!!!!
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Chiefs Have Three Tight Ends Active; Vrabel is Inactive
There are no surprises on the Kansas City Chiefs inactive list for today's game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Inactives include:
- LB Mike Vrabel
- G/C Andy Alleman
- LB Justin Rogers
- LB David Herron
- RB Dantrell Savage
- CB Donald Washington
- TE Jake O'Connell
- QB Matt Gutierrez (3rd QB)
Injuries include Vrabel, Alleman, Savage and Rogers.
This also means that Pierre Walters will be active for only the second time this season.
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Week 11 Kansas City Chiefs Round Up
Over 60 front page posts. 54 FanPosts. 65 FanShots. All since Monday.
We forgive you if you didn't catch them all.
That's why this week I've categorized all of the front page posts and listed them for you after the jump.
If you don't get a chance to read as much during the week, this is a good time to quickly scan the content after the jump and figure out what you missed. I think I had forgotten about the Chiefs signing former Cardinal running back Tim Castille earlier this week.
I've also added the most rec'd FanPosts of the week for good measure. Thank you to all of you who contribute to that section of the site.
Let's get to the news. The big stories of the week were:
- Larry Johnson to the Bengals
- Dwayne Bowe's suspension
- Lots of depth chart movement, unofficially and officially
- The famous "22 guys off the street" quote
It's all there, after the jump.
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Keyshawn Defends Chiefs Coach Haley
Former NFL player and current ESPN broadcaster Keyshawn Johnson defended Kansas City Chiefs coach Todd Haley. The two are familiar with each other as Haley's father, Dick, drafted Johnson in 1996 while the younger Haley was his position coach with the New York Jets and years later with the Dallas Cowboys.
"Todd grew up around football," Johnson said via John Harris of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. "He coached me to two Pro Bowls. His father drafted me with the Jets,'' said Johnson.
"Here's a guy that (supposedly) doesn't know anything about football, but I got two Pro Bowls out of him."
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Chiefs Haven't Won Two Straight In Over Two Years
It's not the best opportunity for the Kansas City Chiefs to win two games in a row for the first time since winning twice way back in 2007. That's about 25 months, folks.
On October 21st, 2007, the Chiefs beat the Raiders 12-10 for their second consecutive victory. Sitting at 4-3, I don't think any of us were dreaming of a Super Bowl but, at the time, the playoffs weren't out of line to talk about.
You know what happened next. The Chiefs came off the bye week and lost Larry Johnson and the game to the Green Bay Packers. The Chiefs would go on to lose nine consecutive games to end the season. This is commonly referred to as the beginning of the downfall (though it could be argued that downfall started with shoddy drafts years prior).
The Chiefs have the task of facing the defending Super Bowl champs who, by the way, had a five game winning streak snapped by division rival Cincinnati Bengals last weekend. Yeah, that had divisional implications, serious ones for the Steelers, so we shouldn't expect a lazy team to enter Arrowhead.
The Steelers are playing the Baltimore Ravens next weekend so this game has all the makings of a trap game. Problem is, the Steelers rarely fall into trap games. They're 9-3 coming off a loss in the Mike Tomlin era. Their defense is too consistent for that to happen.
The Chiefs? Well, I don't have that kinda time to count all those losses.
We've talked about it all week. No experts from ESPN or NFL Network are picking the Chiefs, the spread is over two scores and the Chiefs are winless at home.
A win would be an incredible upset.
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Arrowheadlines: Chiefs News 11/22
Game Day!!! Steelers are in town (probably with a lot of fans). If you can, head out to Arrowhead and raise some hell for those of us too far away to make it. The team's going to need all the help they can get.
How much the Chiefs might have grown as a team is debatable. They secured victory No. 2 last Sunday in Oakland and got a great deal of help from the Raiders, who like them are one of the league’s bad teams right now. This meeting is likely to show two things: the Chiefs have grown, and they are still very far, far behind the best teams in the league like Pittsburgh.
With his black and gold roots, Todd Haley does not try to hide his admiration of what the Steelers have done through the years, maintaining their place as a contender each year and winning two of the last four Super Bowl trophies to add to the four from days of yore.
"They’re consistent in all areas – personnel, how they draft, all areas," Haley said. "They don’t panic. If things don’t go real well early they don’t panic; they’ve proven that over the years. I think that this model would be a great one to follow as would some other teams obviously; New England being one of those teams and Indianapolis, Philadelphia.
Game-Day Cup O’Chiefs from Bob Gretz
Bottom line
The Steelers didn’t become the franchise they are by losing to teams like the Chiefs. Still, it’s interesting to note that lesser Pittsburgh opponents like Cleveland and Detroit were able to hang in during their games against the Steelers. That’s probably the best the Chiefs can hope for. Despite last week’s win in Oakland, the Chiefs have too many issues to think they can realistically compete with Pittsburgh. They’ve been blown out by many of the stronger opponents they’ve played, and the game against the Steelers has a similar feel. If Pittsburgh comes to Arrowhead Stadium with its best game, there’s little the Chiefs can do to have any say in the outcome. Prediction: Steelers 30, Chiefs 10.
Chiefs-Steelers scouting report from KC Star
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These Aren't the Chiefs Keyaron Fox Remembers
Pittsburgh Steelers LB Keyaron Fox is a familiar name around here. A third round draft pick by the Kansas City Chiefs at the tail end of the Dick Vermeil era, Fox appeared in 40 games over four years for the Chiefs. He contributed on special teams and even got four starts while fellow LB Derrick Johnson was downed by injury.
This isn't the rivalry game you might expect it to be for Fox. That's because when he left he went to the eventual Super Bowl champs and, well, he doesn't really know many players on the Chiefs roster. He played with only eight players that are currently on the team:
Dustin Colquitt, Brodie Croyle, Ron Edwards, Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, Jon McGraw, Rudy Niswanger, Kolby Smith and Brian Waters.
"When I got to looking and saw the personnel that's around," Fox said via Chuck Finder of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, "there aren't too many people from the organization as a whole that I know. They went through a house-cleaning, and there are only a few players left."
The coaching staff is different from linebackers coach to defensive coordinator to head coach. Really, this team isn't really any different from others for Fox.
I think for the most part a lot of folks appreciate what Fox did here and with our current situation at linebacker probably wishes he hadn't left. There's no animosity there so I expect there to be no boos, if anything a few cheers.
"They're pretty good fans," Fox said. "They supported me while I was there. I don't think there are going to be any boos or anything, hopefully."
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VIDEO: Steelers v. Chiefs Preview
"Kansas City is mad too because they're so bad."
Thanks Pat Kirwan. NFL.com needs to trade him for some sort of fermented chicken drink.
A couple of notes from the preview:
- "You can't run on the Steelers defense."
- Kirwan thinks Jamaal Charles will be featured in the passing game more.
- "The Steelers don't need Troy Polamalu."
- Watch out for the Steelers featuring the tight end more.
Lazy Saturday, huh? Not much going on in college football today either.
Make sure you stop by tomorrow morning for the onslaught of news we'll deliver before the game. Game starts at Noon tomorrow.
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Chiefs LB Tamba Hali Fined $5,000 for Roughing Raiders' Russell
According to a league spokesman, Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Tamba Hali has been fined $5,000 for a roughing the passer penalty against the Oakland Raiders.
Judging by the replay, the fine is a result of the NFL's crackdown on protecting quarterbacks, especially down by the knees.
With 2:38 left in the second quarter of the Chiefs 16-10 victory over the Raiders, Hali got past tackle Mario Henderson and dove at Russell as he threw causing an incomplete pass.
Hali was flagged for roughing the passer. However, Henderson was also called for offensive holding.
The penalties were offsetting and the down was played again.
A few weeks ago, linebacker Corey Mays was hit with a similar fine for hitting the Chargers Philip Rivers. Against the Giants, Jarrad Page was flagged for hitting a defenseless receiver. The call was questionable and the league office did not fine him. Against the Cowboys, a defender was flagged and fined for hitting a defenseless Bobby Wade.
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Chiefs Scouts Staying Busy Attending College Games Today
A few days ago we passed along a story from Chris Steuber of Scout that a Kansas City Chiefs scout attended Wednesday's matchup between the Buffalo Bulls and Miami (Oh) RedHawks.
Well, the Bulls won convincingly 42-17.
Today, the Chiefs scouts continue to look for talent. Here are a couple more games the Chiefs scouts will be at.
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