Patriots West?
The recent hire of Brian Daboll has spewed out a recurring and common thought (or criticism) about Scott Pioli that he tends to rely heavily on former Patriots when building the Chiefs roster/coaching staff. With using the most current roster and coaches I could find via KcChiefs.com, I separated the coaches into two separate groups by former Patriots and other. I also listed all the players on the Chiefs roster and noted which ones were former Patriots.
The results post jump...
Current Chiefs coaches, former Patriots:
Romeo Crennel, Maurice Carthon, Brian Daboll, Anthony Pleasant, Otis Smith
Other current Chiefs coaches:
Richie Anderson, Mike Clark, Gary Gibbs, Steve Hoffman, Bernie Parmalee, Pat Perles, Brent Salazar, Nick Sirianni, Emmitt Thomas, Adam Zimmer, Jim Zorn
Current Players:
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Albert, Branden |
Hudson, Rodney |
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Arenas, Javier |
Jackson, Tyson |
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Asamoah, Jon |
Johnson, Derrick |
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Bailey, Allen |
Jones, Thomas |
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Bair, Brandon |
Langford, Reshard |
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Baldwin, Jonathan |
Lewis, Kendrick |
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Bannon, Shane |
Lilja, Ryan |
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Maneri, Steve |
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Becht, Anthony |
McClain, Le'Ron |
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Belcher, Jovan |
McCluster, Dexter |
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McGraw, Jon |
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Bowe, Dwayne |
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Breaston, Steve |
Mims, David |
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Brown, Jalil |
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Bruggeman, Rob |
Newsome, Jamar |
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Campbell, Caleb |
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Carr, Brandon |
O'Connell, Jake |
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Orton, Kyle |
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Palko, Tyler |
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Colquitt, Dustin |
Patterson, Luke |
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Copper, Terrance |
Piscitelli, Sabby |
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Daniels, Travis |
Pope, Leonard |
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Dorsey, Glenn |
Powe, Jerrell |
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Draughn, Shaun |
Richardson, Barry |
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Flowers, Brandon |
Sheffield, Cameron |
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Gafford, Thomas |
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Gilberry, Wallace |
Stanzi, Ricky |
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Gordon, Amon |
Studebaker, Andy |
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Greenwood, Cory |
Succop, Ryan |
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Gregg, Kelly |
Toribio, Anthony |
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Hali, Tamba |
Urban, Jerheme |
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Harris, Darryl |
Washington, Donald |
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Horne, Jeremy |
Wiegmann, Casey |
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Houston, Justin |
Williams, Demorrio |
Out of 16 current coaches that I could gather, five were previously with the Patriots. For you math wizards, that equals around 31%. This is somewhat of a significant number, but not overwhelming by any manner. Out of the 68 players listed, 3 were former Pats (Cassel, O'Callaghan, and Maneri) resulting in a whopping 4.4%--note Maneri was not with the Pats while Pioli was there.
I researched these numbers out of pure curiosity. I am not standing behind them as being 100% accurate because I did the research fairly quickly. A more diligent researcher may look into all personnel moves by Pioli since his hire by the Chiefs. There have been other Patriots (Vrabel and Weis) that have come and gone, yet other non-former Patriots (Haley and Muir) that have also seen the entrance and exit doors at Arrowhead. I am under the opinion that Pioli has done what any other person would do in his situation. He has brought in people he is familiar with, but not to a fault. The idea that he constantly just milks the tree that is the Patriots is a misconception.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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interesting stuff
but I think one thing to consider is the high level positions of those Ex Pats
GM, HC / DC, OC, Asst HC (along with Pleasant and Smith)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I took it into consideration
But I didn’t want to put any more effort into the post, things like that get worked out in the comments… feelin pretty lazy. I think Haley is a strong opposition to that argument. Pioli’s first big hire and had no connection to the Patriots.
Fire Scott Pioli + hire Captain Hindsight = Superbowl.
by JayhawksNChiefs on Feb 8, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
During the season
when players were brought in for a workout a lot of them were former Patriots.
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006
You mean Pioli's first year?
He brought in players he had worked with 8 months prior? Shocking.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
No matter how many facts are stated
“Patriot west”, “patriot way”, “patriot retread” are phrases that will continue to be used by anyone who thinks they figured out the reason why Pioli will fail.
Sound reasoning, no doubt
I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.
by RememberDelaney37 on Feb 8, 2012 4:51 PM CST via mobile reply actions
as opposed to those who will cite that same Patriots Way meme as a "basis" for success
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
It's just nice to see the actual facts.
You know, those little things that are brought up few and far between.
Fire Scott Pioli + hire Captain Hindsight = Superbowl.
by JayhawksNChiefs on Feb 9, 2012 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
FYI, Steve Hoffman has been released.
Replaced by Tom McMahon.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.

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