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Romeo Crennel: 'It's More About Brian Daboll Than Matt Cassel'

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One of the reasons I thought the Kansas City Chiefs hired Brian Daboll as offensive coordinator was because he ran an offense similar to the one in which Matt Cassel has had his most success. Maybe that played a role in the hire but it wasn't the overwhelming reason why Daboll was hired, Romeo Crennel said on Tuesday.

"It's more about Brian than it is Matt Cassel," Crennel said on a conference call with KC reporters this morning.

Crennel said Daboll was the first person he offered the coordinator job to and that the search took so long because Daboll was under contract with the Miami Dolphins. He also indicated that the Dolphins wanted to keep him and other teams were interested in him as well.

As for the the offense he'll run, Crennel said when you compare it to KC's offense last year or New England or Miami, it's more like the Dolphins. "You can see some no huddle, you can see some multiple tight ends, you can see some two back, some one back, so we can see it all," Crennel said. He also mentioned having balance in the offense as far as the running and passing game is concerned.

We'll have some more details on what he said about the staff (right after I eat at this Chinese buffet for lunch...yeah, we're a real professional operation around here). Check our Twitter feed -- @ArrowheadPride -- for a few more details, including Crennel's expectation that Jim Zorn will remain with the staff.

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what are you talking about??

those are our best plays!!!!!

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by GaryfromIA on Feb 7, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

60% of the time they never work

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Feb 7, 2012 11:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

60% of the time, it works every time...

First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...

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by SFLChief on Feb 7, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

x

First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...

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by SFLChief on Feb 7, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

If the Dolphins wanted him then how did he get here?

If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?

by electriclight on Feb 7, 2012 11:06 AM CST reply actions  

Coach change.

West coast HC wanted a west coast OC.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Is it out of the norm for teams to have 2 offensive coordinators?

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by KingChief on Feb 7, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I defer to Oscar from "The Office" on this one
Look it doesn’t take a genius to know that every organization thrives when it has two leaders. [shakes head] Go ahead, name a country that doesn’t have two presidents. A boat that sets sail without two captains. Where would Catholicism be, without the popes.

by Steve_in_RI on Feb 7, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Liked the organization more?

Liked the coach more?
Getting paid more?
Potential HC after Crennel retires?

Could probably think of more. Not saying any of the above happened, but they’re possibilities.

by Brad-KC on Feb 7, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Pioli, Crennell and Daboll have a history together going back to the Pats

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by upamtn on Feb 7, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

yepper

Dabolls record as OC? In three years he went 13-32 for a .333 win percentage. If ya’ll thought Haley’s .427 was bad, what’re ya gonna do with daboll?

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by Aiken_Drum on Feb 8, 2012 8:35 AM CST up reply actions  

**should be 16-32**

"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley

by Aiken_Drum on Feb 8, 2012 8:35 AM CST up reply actions  

He's the oc

Not the HC. Why wool I look at the records of his teams. Look at Al Saunders “record” since he left kc. The rams, skins, and raiders didn’t win a lot with al coaching.

by Tripower66 on Feb 8, 2012 6:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I guess that's why you wanted him back so badly???

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by Aiken_Drum on Feb 8, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Not the fans...the article said the management wanted him.

If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?

by electriclight on Feb 7, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Obviously, they didn't want him.
He also indicated that the Dolphins wanted to keep him and other teams were interested in him as well.

If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?

by electriclight on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Why is that obvious?

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)

by MNchiefsfan on Feb 7, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't he get let go with the HC and the whole staff?

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by MNchiefsfan on Feb 7, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Ummm, kinda my point.

The article says the Dolphins wanted him but he isn’t there. Something is incongruous.

If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?

by electriclight on Feb 7, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

When a HC is released, the staff generally goes with

Doesn’t seem to be a stretch that they reached out to him afterward, once they got their new HC in place.

But I guess we can always assume everyone is lying, unless they’re saying something bad about Pioli… right?

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by MNchiefsfan on Feb 7, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Is it just me...

Or other then his initial press conference has Romeo trying to detract from Cassel at every opportunity?

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:07 AM CST reply actions  

Oh no.

Pioli is married to Cassel, and Romeo is just his puppet.

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by Tarkus on Feb 7, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Aha! Hand up the ass!

Thats why Romeo always has that goofy grin on his face.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I have a goofy grin just thinking about it.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I still have ten years before I hit 40 and the prostate exam becomes a part of life

I’d rather not think about it until then (or even after then)

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Ugh

I have a mere 4 years until I need to fill out that “Change of sexual orientation card” which accompanies said procedure…shit.

In accordance with the prophecy

by SCKSChief on Feb 7, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Wait...

you’re supposed to get one at 40? I thought it was 50…I’m 42…ug….

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 7, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Have fun with that :)

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by MNchiefsfan on Feb 7, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Hopefully we won't ever need to use Dabhole.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Now that is just "petulant"

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Feb 7, 2012 11:51 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh I like that one.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

You mess with Daboll, you get da horns?

First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...

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by SFLChief on Feb 7, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

And where exactly do you get da horns?

Right in dabolls?

It's no fun if I have to explain it.

by TRSChief on Feb 7, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, to be fair

Haley made himself look like a lunatic…

by Brad-KC on Feb 7, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

They just fired their last OC.

That’s why the position was available.

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by Tarkus on Feb 7, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

The guy who was supposed to get the job literally caught on fire.

That’s what it took to get Haley a job. Someone nearly had to die.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

And now I'm going to hell for laughing at that.

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by MNchiefsfan on Feb 7, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.

by Tomahawk29 on Feb 7, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Details

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by MNchiefsfan on Feb 7, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

That dude is magic

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by MNchiefsfan on Feb 7, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah, this dude is magic

It's no fun if I have to explain it.

by TRSChief on Feb 7, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Pittsburgh doesn' thire lunatics?

I offer up James Harrison as evidence contrary to that.

It's no fun if I have to explain it.

by TRSChief on Feb 7, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha!

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by MNchiefsfan on Feb 7, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

So Haley will get credit

For the steelers offense doing well next year, though they’ve been pretty good for years. That’ll prove the chiefs wrong, how?

by Tripower66 on Feb 8, 2012 6:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

That whole hobo-chic thing he had going on didn't do him any favors.

It reminded me of the “Derelict” collection in Zoolander.

Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.

by joplin chiefs fan on Feb 7, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

exactly

I don’t see how Jeremy thinks Pioli made Haley look like a lunatic…unless he really thinks the phones were bugged.

by Brad-KC on Feb 7, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I dont think Pioli made Haley a lunatic, i think that the hatred between them made haley to look like a lunatic.

Haley and Pioli were at each others throats day one when Haley realized he couldn’t win with Cassel. The easy schedule made them tolerate each other and then when our top players went down and Pioli did nothing to help. Thats when Haley did what he thought he had to " hit them where it hurts" at started Palko damn well knowing this was the end. I give him credit for standing up for himself.

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by Jeremy Daniel on Feb 7, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

It was all worked out with Mike Tomlin in advance

ensuring that Tomlin would face Tim Tebow in playoff round one.

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Which didn’t turn out so hot for the Steelers

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by ExRoyalsFan on Feb 7, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

True, but nevertheless improbable.

And Omar Epps Mike Tomlin being a man of his word still consented to his end of the bargain.

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

If so

then Haley is a complete asshole. Because that would mean he was also sticking it to the entire organization, including the coaching staff, all the players and the fan base. I would hope that he’s more of a professional than that.

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by Tarkus on Feb 7, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

If that was the case

Haley would have obviously lost his team completely. Do you really think the players are going to let that slide and not say anything about it? Do you really think Bowe and others are still going to have that much respect for him?

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Which team benefitted the most from Haley's playing Palko?

Denver, by winning the division. Which team benefited most from Denver winning the division? PITT, the #5 seed. Where did Haley end up getting hired immediately after being released from KC? PITT.

Where there’s smoke, there’s usually a crazy man with a beard and crack rocks and makeshift freebasing devices around him.

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

This means absolutely nothing to me. Zero, zilch.
Which team benefitted the most from Haley’s playing Palko?
Denver, by winning the division. Which team benefited most from Denver winning the division? PITT, the #5 seed. Where did Haley end up getting hired immediately after being released from KC? PITT.

Where are you trying to go with this?

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by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I am going

down (as in see the comment immediately below this until the threading replaces it with another response)

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I already read it.

And it still sounds like crazy talk.

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol

well, it is a feeble attempt at some snarky humor. And no, I don’t seriously think that. Although the way things align, it at the very least makes for a premise worth examining.

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

ok got ya :)

But here at AP it’s hard for me to tell who joking around sometimes…

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh, I chuckled.

It's no fun if I have to explain it.

by TRSChief on Feb 7, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

As do I

My recent comment from the Stanzi thread in the fanposts:

Actually, the conspiracy theory makes sense in light of Haley’s hiring in PITT
Think about it, PITT knew BALT was going to win the division. They knew they’d finish with the #5 seed, making them forced to play against the #4 seed, namely the AFC West Champion. They feared KC with Stanzi/Orton. Haley went to Omar Epps Mike Tomlin and told him that he would gladly throw the division to the Broncos in exchange for Bruce Arians job the following season. Tomlin, thinking that Tim Tebow would be ideal matchup in the playoffs round one, consented. But the Almighty, himself a Chiefs fan, granted Tim Tebow with the miracle of not overthrowing wide open receivers who got behind poorly designed coverage on the first play of overtime in order to punish Tomlin for his Faustian bargain.

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Classic conspiricy theory!

I love it! My thoughts exactlyt. I also thought there was something wierd about Haley when…………ummm…..I think Giorgio Tsoukalos is knocking on my window……..he’s yelling something about the Anunaki and Fibonacci……I gotta go…….

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by MtnChiefsFan on Feb 7, 2012 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Is that when the rift started

Or after Weis left? It’s tough to tell

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by MNchiefsfan on Feb 7, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

How the heck

do you post images here?

I feel like the guy on the 4G commercial saying “You know how to post videos to facebook?”

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 7, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I've noticed that too.

And it is good.

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by severn58 on Feb 7, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

and ruined McCoy's eardrum?

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by upamtn on Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Colt McCoy is widely known

As an unbelievable crybaby

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by MNchiefsfan on Feb 7, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Or Orton

Who Daboll wanted before last season started?

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah

I wouldn’t hate it

by stagdsp on Feb 7, 2012 11:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh yeah.

I forgot about that little twist to the plot!

You Play to Win the game!!!

by Wichita Chief on Feb 7, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think the Saints plan on letting Sean Payton go....

oh, you mean Peyton Manning.

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry

Didn’t mean to be a dick about it, but for some reason that’s one of my odd pet peeves.

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Spotted dick?

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

In that case

I got a fever!

In accordance with the prophecy

by SCKSChief on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

LMAO

It wasn’t a typo, you’ve been screaming for “Pay Pay” [sic] throughout every thread this morning. A typo is a one-off error, yours was a blatant and redundant mistake repeated with the same nauseating frequency as your Peyton Mancrushing.

If you’re going to trumpet the merits of signing a 36 year old QB fresh off his third neck surgery, at least get the dude’s name correct.

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

If only we’d have gotten Jeff Fischer, we wouldn’t be worrying about the QB.

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by Tarkus on Feb 7, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

That will be all. Just don't be lame, bro

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Feb 7, 2012 12:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

Aw yeah

It's no fun if I have to explain it.

by TRSChief on Feb 7, 2012 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure

You don’t need to put an exclamation point or multiple question marks after every single thing you say.

Makes it look like you’re yelling.

And also, I SWEAR we’ve met…

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by MNchiefsfan on Feb 7, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

It's growing on me

But still very much in a “wait and see” mode. I have to admit that he has the look, for what that’s worth.

by cowboyChief on Feb 7, 2012 11:10 AM CST reply actions  

down boy!

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by ExRoyalsFan on Feb 7, 2012 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Daboll

quoted as saying he has a lot of confidence in Matt Cassel. I hope there is true competition this year.

by redngold1 on Feb 7, 2012 11:16 AM CST reply actions  

I have alot of confidence in my car to get me to work.

But I would have much more confidence in a newer, better car that makes me go faster.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Pffft Chevrolet

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm starting to wonder if I even know you at all....

If this was a poll I’d be voting “not sure”.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed, go ahead and pick yourself up a 2012 Acura NSX

I was on the fence, but that Super Bowl commercial sold me.

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by severn58 on Feb 7, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Yea I'm all for this.

And I’m pretty sure I can take on Seinfeld to move up the list.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

+$24,600,000,000

still owed….

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

I have confidence that I can choke down a Big Mac for lunch.

But, I’d rather have a steak.

My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.

by Scott B. on Feb 7, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

This proves he's a terrible coach.

How can you have confidence in a QB that can’t freaking throw?

by bossmanham on Feb 7, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Cuz any new coach is going to come out and say

I have no confidence in this or that player.

Give it a break. NOTHING will be proven until we see our offense this year.

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by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

He said that?

My opinion just took a180, send him packing after that statement. Maybe Pioli was in the room, or had “ears” in the room.

by tomachop on Feb 7, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Coming from coaching

Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson, Jake Delhomme, SENECA WALLACE, & Colt McCoy… Cassel probably looks like delicious spotted dick

by Brad-KC on Feb 7, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Could it be that we finally will have one coach that has most of the say on offense?

I could be wrong, but I’m sure Haley had a strong voice in running the offense over the last three seasons.

I’m not blaming Todd Haley, but when your OC and HC see things differently on offense, it will probably show.

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 11:22 AM CST reply actions  

Great!

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

that's a good change of pace

…. unlike Muir’s PACE maker!!!

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by GaryfromIA on Feb 7, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

You mean that Zorn/Muir/Haley triumvirate wasn't effective?

Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.

by joplin chiefs fan on Feb 7, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

GOOD

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by MNchiefsfan on Feb 7, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Hard to mess with someone

when you don’t really know what they do.

"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
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by Aiken_Drum on Feb 8, 2012 8:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Just saw Arrowhead Pride's twitter referencing their poll that only 19% of the fans approve the Daboll hire....

I think they need to stop using that as a stat. The poll just isn’t properly put together.

If I were to put a poll up that asked if people think spotted dick tastes good or not… the vast majority would vote no without any further knowledge of the food. In reality, it’s a tasty British steamed suet pudding containing dried fruit (usually currants) commonly served with custard.

So… with the lack of knowledge people just make snap decisions. I have no way of knowing if if someone educated on the Daboll hire would change their opinion, but I find it hard to believe it’d be so lopsided.

by Brad-KC on Feb 7, 2012 11:24 AM CST reply actions  

"it’s a tasty British steamed suet pudding containing dried fruit (usually currants) commonly served with custard."

In all fairness this isn’t making me want to vote approve. It still sounds like it tastes like dick.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

british cuisine is not exactly high end stuff

that’s why they conquered the world you know…they were looking for better take out

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by sm7600 on Feb 7, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I vote No

on the spotted dick, striped dick or any dick.

Never argue with an Idiot...... they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
sometimes I wonder how they would do that chalk outline, if you pushed someone into a tree chipper.

by Hoochdawg on Feb 7, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Note to self...

“Next fan post, leave out any and all dicks”. Check.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Check.

Never argue with an Idiot...... they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
sometimes I wonder how they would do that chalk outline, if you pushed someone into a tree chipper.

by Hoochdawg on Feb 7, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

True statement
the vast majority would vote no without any further knowledge of the food.

I hear ya Brad, but none of those polls really mean anything at all until game day comes.

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I think he is calling Chiefs fans ignorant

Nicknames I have coined:

Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'

by Nick Britt on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't have a problem with you calling me ignorant

I do have a problem with you calling everyone here who disagrees with your opinion ignorant or “unintelligent.”

Nicknames I have coined:

Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'

by Nick Britt on Feb 7, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I understood.

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Following your Spotted Dick poll - I'd like one asking if they'd like to see an Elegant Tit...

Assuming most would say “yes” – they can collectively be disappointed by the resulting image.


source

by Ochophosphate on Feb 7, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

What about long-tailed titties?

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by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Scary?

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Touche - not the "tail(s)" I had in mind

We’ll expand the poll to include both Elegant and Long-Tailed.

However we must continue to disappoint with zoologically accurate follow-up photographs. Keep this beaut bookmarked for another time.

by Ochophosphate on Feb 7, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

ok

The Shoebill, Balaeniceps rex also known as Whalehead is a very large bird related to the storks. It derives its name from its massive shoe-shaped bill.

The Shoebill is a very large bird, averaging 1.2 m (4 ft) tall, 5.6 kg (12.3 lbs) and 2.33 m (7.7 ft) across the wings. The adult is mainly grey, the juveniles are browner. It lives in tropical east Africa, in large swamps from Sudan to Zambia.

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by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha! Who is this odd bird?

I meant that we should tease with “Tit” polls and then show pictures of birds.

Regardless – 4ft tall and 7ft wide – crikey! I don’t want a run-in with any bird that I can punch in the face without squatting.

by Ochophosphate on Feb 7, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

It was a tease. Didn't you expect more?

=P

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by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

And I wouldn't be punchin' that bill.

I’d go low. It looks weak at the legs.

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by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

The poll is really about the fan's reaction to the hire

I think that’s interesting, thus the poll. I think it goes without saying that no one can predict how this will go. Even the head coaches with the most information make bad hires. Nobody knows how good or bad someone will be but we all have opinions (which is what the poll was about).

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by Joel Thorman on Feb 7, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Still.

It would be nice to see an updated poll. A lot of people have warmed up to Daboll after learning more about him.

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by Tarkus on Feb 7, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

It's like trying to convince someone to be a mormon before they get their own planet.

Watch here.

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by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

So anyone who isn't ecstatic about the Daybull hire is no unintelligent?

Nicknames I have coined:

Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'

by Nick Britt on Feb 7, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

now*

Nicknames I have coined:

Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'

by Nick Britt on Feb 7, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

of course not,

but he’s implying the entirety of both fan bases can agree it was an uninspiring hire…which yes, would be unintelligent.

by Brad-KC on Feb 7, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I think there are legitimate concerns with Daboll

The fact that all of his offenses (minus about 6 games) have been among the worst in the league is very concerning.

Nicknames I have coined:

Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'

by Nick Britt on Feb 7, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a good post. +1

I disagree because of player personnel on the offensive side of the ball in Cleveland and the fact that it was his first few years as a 34/35 year old OC. But this is at least a good argument.

by Brad-KC on Feb 7, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Wrong!

Daboll is a great hire, and go MIZZOU!

It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.

by neiowakcfan on Feb 7, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

@SI_JimTrotter

I also think Romeo Crennel’s hiring of Brian Daboll as offensive coordinator was smart and solid. Now find a QB. #chiefs

by Chief Willie Wildcat on Feb 7, 2012 11:58 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Sign Peyton Manning and the OC won't matter

Nicknames I have coined:

Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'

by Nick Britt on Feb 7, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Also from @SI_JimTrotter

“Had a good talk w/ Dwayne Bowe other night. Said he likes Haley and spoke to him recently. Said they had issues his 1st year, but not since.”
So let the Bowe to Steelers banter begin.

by Chief Willie Wildcat on Feb 7, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Wallace on one side and Bowe on the other?

With Rapingbugers throwing the ball? That would be pretty potent.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget

Antonio Brown

Stanzi: "If you don't love it, leave it! USA #1"

by GaryfromIA on Feb 7, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Do we get

Antonio Brown in consolation?

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by ExRoyalsFan on Feb 7, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

@SI_JimTrotter again...

“Last thought on KC: I believe Bowe wants to stay with the Chiefs longterm, but the contract has to be right.”

by Chief Willie Wildcat on Feb 7, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

They've got way too many holes

To drop big money on a WR. But who knows?

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)

by MNchiefsfan on Feb 7, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Funny quote from Rotoworld
GM Scott Pioli and his army of Patriots’ retreads are setting the bar low in Kansas City.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 12:01 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

More crap from people looking for big names

We don’t need a big name made from riding the coattails of a superstar player. We need someone making their name from making chicken salad from chicken shit

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Feb 7, 2012 12:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree...

but, adding the big name players couldn’t hurt either.

I believe in the Chiefs' Way. Someday, we will set the standard for how to be a championship team!

by Face Painter on Feb 7, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

What exactly is funny about that quote?

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

i think it is a bit more sense if you add what they said before that

Talking about how crennel wants the type of offense ran in miami in 2011 , which sets the bar low because they were 22nd in the league and only averaged like 318 yards a game or so .

by chiefsman! on Feb 7, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

matt cassel is OK

but no OK QB went to the super bowl this year…

by chiefsman! on Feb 7, 2012 12:01 PM CST reply actions  

Do you have a link?!

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by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

That OK QB

would have been in the super bowl if evans didn’t blatantly drop a touchdown pass inside a minute.

Twitter: @RaiderHater86

by ExRoyalsFan on Feb 7, 2012 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

yes

but i want to go to super bowl , not just be close. Even though i would love to be close also ! And i would probably put flacco ahead of cassel ..

by chiefsman! on Feb 7, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably???????

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by saskwatch on Feb 7, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Like him or not

Approve of the hire or not

Daboll is our OC…so get used to it.

I don’t wanna hear your Daboll crap!

How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn

by Matt_Grbac on Feb 7, 2012 12:11 PM CST via mobile reply actions  


Waiting all this time to hire a mediocre OC
Thats like watching a movie with a shitty ending

by ArrowheadHunter on Feb 7, 2012 12:11 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Put a title on the comment please.

I want to remove pictures I don’t want to look at. Thank you.

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by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure why people think

a 36 year old with 3 years of OC experience can be a retread of anything.

by Brad-KC on Feb 7, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmm....
Not sure why people think
a 36 year old with 3 years of OC experience can be a retread of anything.

Considering this phrase could almost be exactly applied to Peyton Manning, I find this highly ironic.

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Peyton is 36 years old

and considering Jim Caldwell coached that team for the last three years, you could argue that Peyton was the de facto coach.

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Better than Bill Muir

That’s all I can say….MUCH better than Bill Muir.

How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn

by Matt_Grbac on Feb 7, 2012 12:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yep

And from what I understand he is very excitable and energetic.

When is the last time our OC wasn’t either falling alseep or driving a scooter around the complex.

How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn

by Matt_Grbac on Feb 7, 2012 12:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Technically, our OC from 2009 was

excitable vulgar and energeticunhinged.

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

This is where the rubber meets the assembly line?

"There will be increased competition at every position, including the quarterback position".-Scott Pioli

by severn58 on Feb 7, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm willing to bet Daboll thinks he can fix Cassel

Just like Weis “did”. Please, please prove me wrong. I’m begging this organization to convince me that Cassel won’t be the quarterback until Pioli gets fired.

by old_school on Feb 7, 2012 12:24 PM CST reply actions  

I'm not sure there's going to be enough crow to go around if Cassel goes out and throws for 4000+ yards and 30+ TDs this year

The whole species might actually go extinct.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 12:26 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I actually expect it

Cassel looks like one QB in even years and a completely different QB in odd years. It’s an even year, but the playoffs will occur in an odd year (woe be upon us). What we need is for the team to carry a horrible QB to the playoffs in the 2013 season, and then Cassel will magically transform into the ghost of Johnny U and put up the greatest postseason in the annuls of NFL lore.

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

As the world ends in December 2012

No worries about poor play on 2013.

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by ExRoyalsFan on Feb 7, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I wish he would, seriously

but he won’t. That’s the problem here. Too much hope when we’ve been proven wrong long enough.

by old_school on Feb 7, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Good Cassel years: 2008, 2010
Bad Cassel years: 2007, 2009

He had a statistically solid year in 2010, but once January 2011 rolled around, he shat the bed against Oakland and Baltimore.

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Correction

bad years are 2009 and 2011…. although 2007 might be bad since he never saw the field. (I’ll give him a pass for not beating out a QB who threw for 50 TDs and won 18 games though)

When you mess with Daboll, you get the horns.

by Sudden on Feb 7, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmm... the good Cassel years in 2008 and 2010 coincide with facing two of the weakest opponent schedules of the past 20 years

No surprise there Cassel looks like an NFL QB against weak opponents. It’s the average and better opponents where he looks like he never played QB in college…. wait a minute

by Chiefs_KC on Feb 7, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

If that happens

I will write MULTIPLE 2000 word posts apologizing to Matt Cassel, Aiken, and anyone else who still thinks Cassel’s got what it taks.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)

by MNchiefsfan on Feb 7, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to mention

Lucifer looking for some new digs thanks to the frostbite….

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 7, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Why can't we just agree that there probably wasn't any candidate

that wouldn’t spark this type of AP reaction. If it was Saunders, many would have loved it while people like me would have been bemoaning the double-dip on Senior Citizens.

Short of Don Coryell or someone of that nature, we will never agree.. Let’s just enjoy the hire and starting firing the missiles at each other if it doesn’t work out.

Now that I think of it though, Coryell would require passing and everyone would get mad cause we have Matt Cassell. Scatch him.

Carry on, don’t mind me, just no new RG III scenario today and I’ll be set.

by Steve_in_RI on Feb 7, 2012 12:42 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

That was very rude.

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Well played

Since that has been said before, I will not count that as a new one.

by Steve_in_RI on Feb 7, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

How about

Our 1st and 3rd for 2012, 2013, and 2014 drafts

by Brad-KC on Feb 7, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

How about

We see what Daboll can do for out offense….THEN start throwing stones. Now hear me out, I know this is a new and scary idea.
If we let Daboll either hang himself or rise from the ashes like super hero then we can form opinions and criticisms.

I know this may be an idea that will get me banned from AP or the internets all together….but it has legs and it could work.

How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn

by Matt_Grbac on Feb 7, 2012 12:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I love it!

Funny how that hasn’t occurred to the pitchfork and torch crowd.

It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.

by neiowakcfan on Feb 7, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

That's not the modus operandi of AP these days

Anymore, it’s about which clique you belong to and how many insults you can hurl at anonymous posters you will never actually get to know in person.

I will say that Daboll’s track record is far less impressive than when we hired Weis as OC. I’m looking forward to ANY change in offense compared to what we saw this year, but I’m not holding my breath that we’ll see as much efficiency as we did under Weis.

by Chiefs4Life on Feb 7, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

should be a huge difference with Jamaal and T moe back...

like apples to oranges…

First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...

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by SFLChief on Feb 7, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Well that's no fun

I have all these stones and can’t throw them?

It's no fun if I have to explain it.

by TRSChief on Feb 7, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm really interested in learning more about the Chinese buffet.

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Associated Press First-team All-Pro selection (x3) (1984, 1986, 1988)
Associated Press Second-team All-Pro selection (x2) (1983, 1985)
1986 NFL 101 AFC Defensive Player of the Year
NFL 1980s All-Decade Team
6yrs 100+ tackles

by Pacific Chief on Feb 7, 2012 1:10 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah.

All this talk of noodle-armed Cassel has me hungry for some chow mein.

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by Tarkus on Feb 7, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Pey-Pey Chang's?

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by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 7, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

hahah

this came up under google images for ‘noodle arm’

by Brad-KC on Feb 7, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Odd.

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by nateforchiefs on Feb 7, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope
  1. 7 is Elway’s kid and not Cassel’s!!

Stanzi: "If you don't love it, leave it! USA #1"

by GaryfromIA on Feb 7, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

#7

Stanzi: "If you don't love it, leave it! USA #1"

by GaryfromIA on Feb 7, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed, this chatter about shitty Cassel has me starved for a pu pu platter

/sorry

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by severn58 on Feb 7, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

That reminds me of a scene from the movie...................

A Bug’s Life

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by LadyChief on Feb 7, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

So this will be

Cassel’s…well, the Chiefs 4th year in a row with a different OC. I just hope this guy works out and we can have some consistency.

As said above, someone liked Weis’ credentials more than Dabolls… but what does it matter if the guy leaves after 1 year. YA know?

by Brad-KC on Feb 7, 2012 1:40 PM CST reply actions  

Good God...

Can’t wait for the Chiefs to annihilate teams this year so people will STFU about the Haley/Pioli/Daboll/RAC nonsense. This is going to be an incredibly long offseason.

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by Tomahawk29 on Feb 7, 2012 2:46 PM CST reply actions  

That oughtta do the trick.

Meh...
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by Chief-blinders-on on Feb 7, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

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