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Carr and Bowe



As good as carr and bowe both are i dont think we'll have to work to hard to keep them and not spend a fortune on them........

reason i say this is there are plenty of other elite players at there postionns who are free agents this year so there might not be as many teams looking at them as we thought would be.....

we as chiefs fans like fans of other teams are biased toward our own players and ...will always think they are the better free agent

FA WR-- DeSean Jackson, Vincent Jackson, Steve Johnson, Marquise Colston, Wes Welker, Reggie Wayne, Brandon Lloyd, and Mario Manningham

FA CB--- Coretland Finegan, Brent Grimes, Carlos Rogers
(there are more i just stopped listing them lol but you get my point) heres to hoping we can keep our core guys and lock them up for years to come so we can focus on our o line and nose tackle

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To me WR is easier to fill than CB.

Yes I know KC didnt have a legit WR FOREVER before DBowe. I just look at the ability that the WR position is bringing from college and the rules the NFL has in place as of right now.
The NFL rules are geared towards the passing game. This makes it much easier for less talented players to play the position. On the flip side it makes it harder for a CB to be a legit NFL CB.

What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!

by KSU-Chief on Feb 7, 2012 11:08 AM CST reply actions  

This

Especially this year. Alot of WR options headed to FA. Another way to look at it is the offense is still a work in progress whereas the defense is closer to complete(minus a NT) so why mess with a good thing.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

agreed, we should re-sign and keep both

Carr is already a Top 10 CB

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Feb 7, 2012 11:32 AM CST reply actions  

Bowe was sure talking like he's going to be back the other day.

Hopefully it wasn’t just lipservice. He might not be thrilled about Daboll but he’s got to be able to look at Marshalls numbers and be pretty happy about that.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Is Flowers a Top 10 CB?

So are you thinking we have TWO top 10 CB’s? Not disagreeing, just seeing what you think…

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 7, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

My $0.02

Flowers top 10, Carr top 20. That’s still suggesting Carr is better then about 1/2 the leagues #1 CBs.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Feb 7, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the difference is that

I dont think Carr could guard someone like D. Jackson, Cruz, S.Smith, or any of the smaller, quicker WR’s in the NFL. I think Flowers has the ability to cover pretty much anything out there.(Even though he has been beat by some)

What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!

by KSU-Chief on Feb 7, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

both in my opinion

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Feb 7, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Carr is a must!

Plus there’s no good reason not to bring Bowe back.

We can easily afford it and can’t replace either short term. If Pioli screws this up it will further cement my opinion of the guy.

by F250 on Feb 7, 2012 11:39 AM CST reply actions  

If we went through a rebuild just to release guys in their prime...

then the plan really sucks.

If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?

by electriclight on Feb 7, 2012 11:40 AM CST reply actions  

If you dont tag & trade one of them for a qb

You sign both of them to longterm contracts, and franchise our FB.

GIVE JAMAAL THE DAMN BALL!!!!!

by chief913-816 on Feb 7, 2012 1:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Keep Carr, Tag and Trade Bowe.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Feb 7, 2012 2:16 PM CST reply actions  

I posted elsewhere

We should do this and trade Bowe to St. Louis along with our #11 pick and maybe a 4th rounder or so…St. Louis is looking for OT and for WR and if we give them a WR and a pick to get an OT (#11), we could get RG3 with their #2 pick. Someone said I was nuts to give them Bowe for an unproven RG3. But without a decent QB, Bowe’s upside is limited at best.

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 7, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Baldwin, TonyM, Breaston, Dex, Charles, McClain

Draft/FAs

I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 8, 2012 8:40 AM CST up reply actions  

As competitors and business men,

if I were them..especially Bowe, I would want to know that the team is willing to upgrade the QB position. If they start in with the “ol Cassel’s our guy” without a commitment to real competition, I’d seriously consider other options that are

A. Better for my career and potential for SB’s (AND)
B. Show me the $$$

by KCfosho on Feb 7, 2012 2:32 PM CST reply actions  

I think with RAC staying HC Carr will stay

Bowe could easily want to know what is going to happen at the QB position, although Cassel did lead him to a probowl birth and 15 TDs

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 7, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

and Bowe told Jim Trotter that he wants to stay (if money is right)

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Feb 7, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah but he could get paid where ever he goes

I still see QB being a big factor

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 8, 2012 6:25 AM CST up reply actions  

you could be right ... for a change ;-)

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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Feb 8, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey now

Don’t hate on change.. sure it rattles around, is annoying to carry, can be bulky.. but you can make a lot of hobos happy with a dollar’s worth of pennies!

I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 8, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe this whole "QB Competition"

is Pioli’s attempt to pacify Bowe. Will it really happen is the question.

Twitter: @RaiderHater86

by ExRoyalsFan on Feb 7, 2012 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I give up. F***ing internet

Twitter: @RaiderHater86

by ExRoyalsFan on Feb 7, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

that's quite a pacifier

and all this time I thought it would take money

Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Feb 7, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

You forgot to add all of the incoming rookies!

So, add all the new WR’s and CB’s projected in the 1st or 2nd and those lists become very long. Good Insight

Dexter McCluster

by DrewPorter on Feb 8, 2012 7:27 AM CST reply actions  

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