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The need for a franchise quarterback...


First off, if you haven't read SuperPioli's write up one RG3, check it out. A lot of time was spent and was a great write up.

While I was watching the game on Sunday, while I saw Eli holding up that trophy, I could only imagine that it would be a Chief next year..but I tried to picture Cassel being the MVP on the most watched game in the season with more than 165 million people watching. I couldn't do it. I realized the serious need the Chiefs have of a franchise quarterback.

The answer? Robert Griffin the Third.

I imagined seeing him in red in yellow making big plays with JC and Bowe, looking at the enormous potential this team has. All of the talent stops at one of the most important positions in football. The quarterback. A backup all of his life, Matt Cassel came from New England back in 09? Something like that, and has shown potential to be an average quarterback at best. Yeah he had 27-7 TD to INT ratio in 2011, but that was against one of the weakest schedules you can have.

Im just gonna cut straight to the point, we need RG3. Both the Rams and Vikings are willing to trade their #2 and 3 spots in the draft which will almost ensure Griffin being in red and yellow.

People have been saying it will be expensive getting him, trading very valuable picks to get him, which I agree. But the need at other positions can be filled through free agencies. Top Chiefs offensive lineman, like Will Shields were drafted in the 3rd round or later. RB's can be found in late rounds.

Im here to draw out possibilities on getting RG3.

I will list the teams before us that are in need of a quarterback.

1. Colts

2. Browns

3. Redskins

4. Dolphins

5. Seahawks (T-11)

Other teams like the Bucs or Rams have indicated that they will stick with they're quarterbacks, for now. We all know Luck will end up in Indianapolis. So that leaves us 4 teams. If Manning doesn't end up in blue next year, he'll probably end up here. I've read articles where he will probably end up in Washington, but he would like to play for the Dolphins. Personally, I want him to be a Redskin because there is a possibility that the Dolphins will stick with Matt Moore, who showed signs of being a possible Franchise Q. We have Kyle Orton, assuming he doesn't resign with us. That leaves 3. We have the emerging Matt Flynn, whose contract is up in Green Bay, probably wont return. He looks to be a starter and may end up in one of these teams.

And then there were 2.

Lets just say that Manning doesn't go to Miami, and they stick with Moore, which seems to be the case.

That leaves one.

The Seahawks' Jackson showed signs of potential this season and actually looked to be solid QB, plus if we win the toss, they aren't even a contender any more.

That leaves the Kansas City Chiefs. I know all of this is very unlikely to happen, but it is possible to get RG3 at the 11th pick.

I personally do not want to take this risk, I want to go for #2. Even though this isn't Pioli's style, he HAS indicated that there will be competition for QB next year, whether that means with Stanzi, Orton, or RG3 we dont know.

Lets look at what it will cost us to get the #2 spot.

2012: 1st Round, 3rd Round

2013: 1st Round 3rd Round

Maybe a 5th round in there should probably do it. I also believe that we need a lot of picks to cover BRich and Gregg, and add a TE and a RB to Jamaal. The Chiefs still have some holes to fill, but maybe KC decides to stick with Battle.

Now we have 3 great WR's: Bowe, Breaston and Baldwin. Baldwin and Breaston will be here for a bit, but Bowe is in need of a contract this year along with Carr. We should resign Carr and slap the franchise on Bowe. Here is another option. The Rams are in desperate need of a WR, and if they end up keeping the #2 spot, Mocks have them taking Blackmon. What if we trade Bowe with the first round this year and a 3rd round either year? maybe it will cost more, i dont know, but it will open up 2, 3 or 4 picks

I absolutely love seeing Bowe play, and I'd hate to see him go, but Baldwin showed great signs of being one of the best. Breaston is a great #2 guy and we can pick up a #3 in FA. I will be willing to eat the cost of saying bye to a great wide receiver if it means getting a franchise quarter back.

If you look at the QB's not entering the draft this year, but will next year, you don't get any GREAT players like RG3, people think he is once in a generation player..and i agree.

Manning in my mind would be a bigger gamble, we dont know that he will be up to arm strength again, or what his accuracy is like. in 2 or 3 years, we'll be right back in the same shoes.

Orton played great the last 3 games, but also showed is a mediocre QB, not the guy that will lead you to the promise land.

Yes, Pioli is not this type of guy, and seems to be in love with Cassel. Personally, I'd love to see us use the draft picks to get #2. Keep the Killer B's and have one of the best offenses in the nation. Sign Nicks, or draft a OT, keep Battle another year (maybe?) and draft a TE.

I am not the smartest guy about what it takes to get a #2 draft pick, so maybe all of my analysis was completely off, but its the thought that counts right? Someone tell Pioli to take his diaper off and bring in RG3. I have waited too long,42 Super Bowls is long enough. Lets win some championships..

Vote on what you want to do...

Poll
What do you want to do with the quarterback situation?
Keep Cassel and Stanzi
7 votes
Trade multiple picks for RG3
43 votes
Trade Bowe and a pick for RG3
16 votes
Keep Cassel another year and draft a QB next year
10 votes
Orton, Manning
35 votes

111 votes | Poll has closed

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Absurd, crazy talk
I know all of this is very unlikely to happen, but it is possible to get RG3 at the 11th pick.

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by ExRoyalsFan on Feb 6, 2012 10:44 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I vote

F: Bring Dave Kreig out of retirement

Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.

by averagegatsby on Feb 6, 2012 10:52 PM CST reply actions  

keep Cassel

As a backup to Orton.
Peyton Manning is too risky & too expensive.
Maybe Pioli has his eye on next years QB class (Matt Barkley please)

Look out for the CHIEFS in 2012!!!!!!

by KC-Murdock on Feb 6, 2012 10:52 PM CST reply actions  

training camp should be interesting

Orton vs Cassel vs Stanzi
assuming Orton re-signs.

Look out for the CHIEFS in 2012!!!!!!

by KC-Murdock on Feb 6, 2012 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I want to look for a QB in next years draft, but

I would prefer Orton for this year and to show any new QB the ropes.

by Helmets on Feb 6, 2012 11:02 PM CST reply actions  

awesome great writeup, nice to see a third post on RG3 in 3 days

and I totally disagree with the idea of giving up draft picks to move up to get him …

but hey, great write up!

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Feb 6, 2012 11:31 PM CST reply actions  

you know what I don't agree with?

AFC teams holding up a trophy named after our late owner for the right to go to the SB , while we stay home because we don’t have a franchise QB

In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti

by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Feb 7, 2012 12:43 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

In the last ten NFL drafts there have been 27 quarterbacks selected in the first round.

Of those 27 how many have won a Superbowl? I believe the number is 3. Rodgers, Eli, Ben.

If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?

by electriclight on Feb 7, 2012 11:15 AM CST reply actions  

Man that averages out to 2.7 QBs a draft

I would hate to be that .7 QB every year

I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 7, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

you #'s guys forget one thing

this is a players game, odds increase with a franchise type qb. I’m all for beefing up the lines but next year we will be in the back half of the draft. Just a thought

by tomachop on Feb 7, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I have been stating the fact we could win the weak West with our IR players back for some time

Yes people just refuse to actually think about that when they say ‘oh we will get our QB next year!’

I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 8, 2012 9:02 AM CST up reply actions  

so, 3 of 27 ... 1 out of every 9 drafted

11% chance of winning a Super Bowl
89% chance of not winning a Super Bowl

fascinating fun with figures :-)

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by upamtn on Feb 7, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

and lets compare that to the odds of a 2nd round QB

or a 4th rounder.
…..
you will come to the same conclusion…. 1st round QB’s are your teams best chance to find the guy.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Feb 7, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's see......

11% chance or… 0% chance? I’ll take the 11% chance. We have a chance to get a franchise QB. If we are healthy we shouldn’t be picking above 20 next season. I’m all for beefing up the line, but if we have a legit shot at a player like RGIII or Luck we need to take it.

by xhornetsx on Feb 8, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Peyton is NOT going to Washington...

He would play his brother TWICE a year, and if they made the playoffs, probably play him again. That is NOT going to happen. Peyton is not going to the Eagles or Cowboys for that same reason.

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 7, 2012 1:46 PM CST reply actions  

Before we sign Peyton

I’m sure Pioli and Co. will run him through both medical and physical tests to prove what he can or can’t do. They’re not going to just blindly sign him and hope he’ll be fine.

That would be like electing an inexperienced less than one-term senator just because you were “hoping for some change”…oh wait….

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 7, 2012 1:48 PM CST reply actions  

here's some love...

Since 1985 there have been 5 teams without an all star franchise type QB that have won the SB. Unless you count Rypien from washington as one of those in which case it would be 3 teams. Of the losing teams in the SB since 1985 there were 5 teams with non franchise caliber QBs that made it to the SB. 4 if you count Steve McNair as a franchise QB. What do these 52 teams have in common? Worst case about 80% of the teams in the superbowl for that last 26 years had a Franchise QB.

upamtn, don’t get me wrong. I GET IT. O-line is paramount to success. No question. But there are legitimate avenues to attack that. Franchise QBs don’t hit the market. You can sign a guy like Carl Nicks, Ben Grubbs to fill your O-line holes. Besides. As far as money goes QB is the most expensive. If you draft one you have years of affordable potential. Also, having a franchise QB would bring publicity to KC. It’s not just good for the team, it’s good for the city.

by xhornetsx on Feb 8, 2012 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

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