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The final draft order is set and Ryan Van Bibber has his latest 2012 NFL mock draft posted.

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Secondary and OLB for the Pats.

They could trade for our pick and have their choice of Kirkpatrick or Upshaw.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Feb 6, 2012 10:02 AM CST reply actions  

I thought the coin toss was at the combine?
The final draft order is set

Also, I don’t mean to be rude, but I take mocks a lot less seriously if they have RG3 going 3 instead of 2. It would be incredibly dumb of the Rams to allow the Vikes to get the ‘jackpot’ of trading back…and I highly doubt they will.

by kcsno56 on Feb 6, 2012 10:02 AM CST reply actions  

Rams might want Kalil, if their new regime decides to cut bait on their former LT pick(s).

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Feb 6, 2012 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

What, the Seahawks/Vikes trade?

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Feb 6, 2012 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

That looks more like 1000 points.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Feb 6, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Of course any team would rather not have to trade up to #2...

B/c it will cost less to get to #3, but obviously, there is that whole chance of him not being there at #3.

by kcsno56 on Feb 6, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Ah.

I think a bidding war for RG3 might blow the chart out of the water.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Feb 6, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I think to avoid going crazy, we'd have to trade a player that the other suitors don't have.

It’s a sellers’ market. We’d have to offer something different, or over-pay.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Feb 6, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

While most think Kalil is the best OT

He’s not a complete consensus #1.

Also, they would have a decent shot at getting him at #4 if they move back to the Rams slot.

Regardless, even if they want an OT (which they should) it would be smarter to move back to 4, 6 or 11/12 and get the bounty of picks and take OT at that point.

The Rams aren’t a LT away from being great. They have a lot of holes.

by kcsno56 on Feb 6, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed, just speculating.

Honestly, 95% of the interest I have in mock drafts is just seeing what other people think of the prospects. Trying to project trades is pretty academic.

That said….the Pats’ two first rounders would add up pretty closely to our first and fifth rounders……

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Feb 6, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Projecting trades really is a waste of time. I have no idea who the Rams will trade with, I just think if they are back to being a competent organization, they will be trading that pick.

If you want to not include trades in a Mock, that’s fine too…

by kcsno56 on Feb 6, 2012 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Huh? You mean, why would they want our first pick?

For one of the best corners or pass rushers. As opposed to the non-covering safety and second-tier pass rusher this mock has them taking.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Feb 6, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's my third-favorite option.
  1. RG3
  2. Trade for 2013 picks to be used for a 2013 QB
  3. Trade back for late first/second-day picks for RT, OG, S, etc

Loser Option – Pick somebody at 11/12.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Feb 6, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

And what's the fascination with Sanu? Where'd this guy come from?

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Feb 6, 2012 10:03 AM CST reply actions  

I think he is suppose to be this years version of Tory Smith

Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
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by KingChief on Feb 6, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

CBS says he runs a 4.57...?

Smith is a speed guy.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Feb 6, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

A couple things going through my brain

If Seattle can move up to get RG3, so can the Chiefs.
If the Chiefs are only going to get better, this might be the highest pick we get for awhile…which has more worth for trading up for a future QB.

Maybe the time is now to get RG3 and have him sit a year behind Cassel.

by Brad-KC on Feb 6, 2012 10:22 AM CST reply actions  

yep

that would be an excellent plan with our new QB guru Offensive Coordinator on board

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 6, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Only alternative I'd prefer would be if we could trade down for 2013 picks and come out ahead in value.

But I agree, this high pick is hopefully going to be a rarity in the next few years, so we should put it toward the most important position on the field.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Feb 6, 2012 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

If we trade for RG3

I would hope he is the starter and Cassel sits behind him.

Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006

by KingChief on Feb 6, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Another thing I've been thinking about

I just have a feeling that Adams OT is going to be a bust like Tyson Jackson. I’m pretty sure Adams has been hurt a couple times in college and also had some drug paraphernalia charges brought against him (not convicted). Just seems like a character issue kid that is injury prone.
No doubt he’s got talent though.

by Brad-KC on Feb 6, 2012 10:26 AM CST reply actions  

So from your comment

can I assume that you think Jackson isn’t a bust?

by Brad-KC on Feb 6, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

He was pretty good at shutting down the run

he just don’t get the sacks which I think he will improve on next year

Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006

by KingChief on Feb 6, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Gonna be hard pressed to convince

anyone here Jackson is a bust. 3-4 defense, Google it, get educated.

Dx3: Draft David DeCastro

by shotty on Feb 6, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

You know it's gonna be a weird draft when there's only 4-1/2 OTs projected in the entire first round,

And 2-1/2 of them are consensus right tackles.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Feb 6, 2012 10:47 AM CST reply actions  

I'm all about tOSU college wise

Mike Adams though? Over Jonathon Martin and David DeCastro? I’d rather trade down and take Devon Still in that scenario. Or, according to this draft, trade down and still take DeCastro. Not a fan of this mock.

Dx3: Draft David DeCastro

by shotty on Feb 6, 2012 11:02 AM CST reply actions  

Ridiculous pick

Unbelievable to think any team would roll the dice on a projected RT with that much talent left on the board.

by Wait and See on Feb 6, 2012 12:42 PM CST reply actions  

Considering the options we have....

Would you consider this a VALUE draft or a NEED draft? It seems that we’re only about four players away from having some serious potential. Not to mention free agency this year, KC will garner more interest from other FAs. Now i know- you always go for value during the draft. But……..

by Ninjaman on Feb 6, 2012 6:46 PM CST reply actions  

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