It's Time

aka money up front

name 5 1st and second round picks still on the chiefs between 2000 – 2009(hell may not have that many in the NFL anymore). Someone posted all the 1st/2nd rd picks sense 2k a few weeksd ago and I would hapilly give up 2 or even three or four picks from that entire strech for a shot at RG3 or Luck. Fact is a 1st round pick can set the Chiefs back if he is a bust regardless of position.

A lot of the Mock experts are sending RG3 to Cleveland at the #2 pick, because Cleveland has 2 first rounders.
The train of thought is that St. Louis could trade down just a couple picks and STILL be in position to get a real receiving threat (Blackmoon) that their team completely lacks.
So, in addition to a first round pick swap, they would stay high enough to get a #1 receiver.. making it a very good deal for them.

Well… the Chiefs have this #1 receiver that they could tag and trade… which would give St Louis the receiving threat they so desperately want and need. St. Louis would be taking less of a rick by taking Bowe + our #1 than they would taking Cleveland’s 2 #1’s because Bowe is a known commodity. Sure, we’d have to toss in something else to sweeten the pot a little bit… but I don’t think were talking about trading away some great glut of future draft picks.

Bowe + a little more + our #1 = St. Louis’ #1 (which becomes RG3).
A swap of 1’s, RG3 to the Chiefs… Bowe to St. Louis.. + a reasonable sweetener….

From where I sit as a fan that’s not much a price to pay for the best QB in the draft (yes.. I’ve said it before.. Ill say it again.. I like RG3 more than I like Luck)

Bowe has some dropsy issues.. nothing world ending, but issues none the less. The upside chances of a real legitimate potential franchisee QB far, far, far, far ,far outweigh the loss of Dwayne Bowe.

The Chiefs would still have Baldwin and Breaston to play as #1 and #2… with Jamaal Charles returning… McCluster can move back into his role as the slot receiver ; thereby keeping Jamaal and McCluster on the field at the same time without sacrificing forcing a fullback (McClain) lead blocker to the bench. That’s a lot of size on the outside, and a crap load of speed on the field at the same time. Toss Moeaki out there with McClain and you can run a power run game out of the same personel grouping in a no huddle offense. Force teams to match up with size (Baldwin/Moeaki) AND speed (McCluster/Breaston) as potential receivers.. AT THE SAME TIME that they have to cover a bruiser (McClain) AND a speedster (Charles) in the back field to potentially run the ball. ADD in a QB that can make all the throws, but can run like a gazelle if he’s forced to……

/drool.

Sure, it’s going to take some time for a rookie QB to develop, but for the first time in a long time I’d be looking forward to watching the Chiefs QB.. instead of hoping he doesn’t screw things up too badly to come back from.

RG3 is completely worth the risk. Settling for Orton just assures the Chiefs 3 more years of mediocrity at the QB position.

I just don’t see the point in playing it safe anymore. Carl played it safe for 20 years and what does he have to show for it. Nothing. Except alot of money he earned by not living up to his promises. We have the money to fill holes with good young players. Depth is the main concern other than QB. Take care of depth and fill a few spots in FA (even QB if necessary) and then save yourself the money in the future, trading some higher picks this year and draft farther back the next year. Because by going for the future now we will still have money in the future by saving on draft picks money and spending it on guys like Bowe and Carr.

you end up with a team full of “guys nobody wants” … and nobody wants them for (usually) a good reason

yes Breaston was a good add for us, not so much for Kelly Gregg … Lilja was ok for a year, this yeas not really good, Wiegs was a stopgap but this past year was not at all good (notice how the OLine play went down w/o Waters? yeah, me too!)

I’m a VERY strong advocate of building thru the draft … there are very few FA’s that are worth getting, the best and highest priced few yes, perhaps (Nicks, Soliai come to mind) but many are on the FA market because they aren’t worth what their agents think they’re worth (Finley, not a team player)

Pioli would be best served to listen to his draft people and continue to build thru the draft and develop (and KEEP) our own players … that’s how championship TEAMS are built, and maintained

Im sorry if I didn’t make it clear in my statement. I was refering to Hunt not being capable of judging talent and and being unsure of how to run things.

and go up from there, then GO FOR IT! The guy is calm, cool and collected in the pocket; this stuff can’t be learned, practiced to death, nor coached – you’re either BORN with that mentality or you’re not. See Tyler Wilson for toughness and remaining cool under pressure; he just needs to work on his footwork, throwing mechanics and decision making; he’s a bit of a gun slinger. Weedon also makes purty good decisions from what very little I watched of him. His AGE be damned if can get us 6-8 years of at least Trent Green play, or hopefully better.

So Scotty – trade back to the late first and grab Weedon at the back end of the 1st, or early second, and get another 2nd pick for OG/OT/TE. This is a purty deep OG class, Purty good OG’s will be there after the 2nd too – especially guys that would fit our ZBS, while the more numerous PBS teams grab the OG’s that fit their scheme; the same things does for ZBS OT’s. A HEALTHY Datko is still my fave if he’s there in the 2nd/3rd.

I’m sooo SICK of bullshit sub-par/mediocre “game manager” QB’s for our team; everytime I hear that “game manager” term, I want to puke! Play-making very good to elite QB’s also manage the damn game! “Game manager” is just a mass rationalization for a QB that SUCKS! End of my arrogant, no-nuthin diatribe! Have a nice day! :+)

But yeah, showing he’s improved his arm strength and velocity using getting his body into his throwing mechanics to get the most velocity out of his passes permanently will be his test next season. He has unlimited confidence, leadership and work ethic; great attitude; and reading D’s, going thru progressions, mobility, pocket presence and accuracy down; IOW’s, he’s already mastered the WCO that USC employs. And next year will be 4 years straight he’s been the starter from being a TRUE freshman. He’s NO Sanchez nor Leinart.

The chiefs have done well in the last 5 but prior to that we had Ryan Sims, Larry Johnson, Niklas Sundstorm, Sylvester Morris. Thats four consecutive years of wasted 1st rounders

I’d trade three 1st round picks for a SPECIAL QB. That’s only actually two extra firsts, and then you have 2nd thru 7th rounds for OL’men, TE’s, DB’s, WR’s, RB’s, LB’ers, and even DL’men. If you can’t build a GOOD, deep team to help that very good to elite QB get to the SB from the 2nd thru 7th round draft picks, plus FA’s, then you need to get better scouting dept. and GM!

I think teams get in trouble when they start throwing in 2nd, 3rd, 5th’s and such, plus a 1st rounder, for anybody. But of course, teams considering trading that 1st rd. pick want those later rd. picks to get another starter or two and depth.