Chiefs Have A Tough Sell With Brian Daboll

Dolphins fans have pretty low standards, they probably think, well hey, 22nd isn’t 23rd! and he came from the Patriots, and Scott Pioli always said that if you ever had an affiliation with the Patriots, that you MUST be good!

Also, the whole, he’s young so he’s just green but he’ll get better as he gets older, as opposed to Al saunders is 65 so he’s washed up and over the hill is a load of crap. I don’t care how old my coach is. If he’s good, I want him, and if he’s young and sucks, then he still sucks.

….pretending to do his due diligence. I’m sure free agency will just light the place up too. A few over the hill bums, or a couple guys the east coast teams have found wanting.

The second half of last season gives some reason to believe he might be okay. The rest of his career as an offensive coordinator (a much bigger sample size) does not. There are also questions about whether Daboll can get the same results in KC with possibly inferior talent on the offensive line and at QB (as well as with Jamaal Charles in his recovery year from ACL surgery).

Basically, for me there are too many ifs for this to be considered a good hire at the outset. And Pioli has made enough mistakes in dealing with coaches so far for me to automatically give him the benefit of the doubt. The only thing that will convince me it’s a good hire is clear improvement on offense and wins on the field.

I don’t see that he had a whole lot to work with in either Cleveland or Miami. It does seem that he left those places better than he found them. Sometimes all you can do is make shit less shitty. (It will still smell mabe not quite as bad.) How did Belichick do in Cleveland? Not so good.

both are young
both have been said to have great offensive minds
both have OC time with one year of success (Daboll also had 2 yrs of Cleveland)

how do they differ?

Haley went from being a hardass (2009) to a relative softy (2010) to omg! (2011)
Daboll went from being omg! (Cleveland & McCoy’s Headset) to being a great guy (Miami)

in some ways one really has to ask of both Haley and Daboll: who is this guy?

/cue Roobie the Robot – Questions! Questions!

Just because the fans in KC don’t know his name does not make this a bad hire. I like it, and think he turns out to be a very good hire.

Good hire for the Chiefs. Daboll is a legit coaching talent.

2009—260 yds/gm 15 pts/gm
2010—290 yds/gm 17 pts/gm
2011—317 yds/gm 20 pts/gm
That looks to me like a steady improvement every year. Not sure why there is all the hate for the guy

One argument that I do think is valid is that Daboll is a young, inexperienced but improving offensive coordinator. He didn’t have much to work with in Cleveland and he did have less talent in Miami then we do here although it isn’t “far less” it’s still less.

If you look at how Miami improved last year over the last nine games though his resume looks a whole lot better. After Miami got into the win column they averaged 24.5 points per game, which over the course of the season would be top 10 offensive numbers. Now that’s only nine games but those nine games are almost 20% of his career at OC and they are the most recent and it’s a good thing for him to build off of.

Having said that, what makes me concerned is that he is young and inexperienced which is a reason for maybe the lack of overall success but Romeo has come out and said that although he’s the HC he’s also going to be wrapped up witth the defense so he needs an OC that can take care of the entire offensive operation a little bit more then an OC wold normally be asked to do. Now do we really want a young, inexperienced OC filling that role? Its going to depend on how he works and his personality and I think that will make or break this hiring. It might be just a little bit too much for Daboll too soon.

It’s usually a good idea to wait and see what they do before saying they’re a bad choice.

This means the playbook will be something close of what they ran with Wies. Cassel will pick it up fast. Even if another QB comes in. Cassel will help that person and Stanzi pick it up. Just like he helped Orton. Daboll has a explosive playbook. Bush is just like Charles. With Al Saunders didnt do anything at Oakland with Hue’s playbook and Hue calling the plays. And of course Zorn unproven with what playbook, well at least one that the Chief’s didn’t want to run. Zorn being a QB he most likely wanted to pass more than run. It’s all about trying to keep everything almost the same no dramatic start overs.

Young man with known ability, able to adjust to defenses and a history of working well with Crennel. Geez, people! An OC is not the end all and be all. His job is to coordinate the offense, not play the game or acquire talent. It is other people’s jobs to acquire and keep good personnel. Everyone, I believe, is making too much of the OC position, and many posters here are displaying the same kind of “hovering fan syndrome” and “helicopter journalist syndrome”that has made KC a difficult place to play, coach, or put together a winning program. Its not rocket science. Give these people a few years and keep drafting and acquiring FA"s who are good and a good match for their philosophy and system. Evreryone just chill. Championship programs happen in franchises whose fans and journalists back off on the pressure and allow teams to evolve and succeed as a coordinated unit. The excessive second-guessing and criticism after short periods of time is the prime cause of why the Chiefs have not won a championship for four decades. The teams that do win championships have fan bases and sports journalists that kind of back off a little and find other things to hang their lives and fortunes on. KC fans and journalists are, in my opinion the prime culprits in the lack of success this franchise has displayed. Look in the mirror, folks.

Continuously retreading new england coaches. One was on nfl network last night saying bill bellichick was the only cook in the kitchen and the rest were custodians or something. Custodians might not be the right term but the point was being made that nobody else on the coaching staff mattered at all. We keep bringing in retreads thinking something magic will happen but it won’t. You fail at OC which cascades to the whole team failing. Short of RG3 to KC I won’t be buying tickets this year again. You know it’s shitty when people make hate signs about being season ticket holders and put them on display on fences in their yard. I thought they were going to fix this tem but they are not. Give it two seasons and we start filling all the vacancies on the staff again.