Why Peyton will choose the Chiefs
Peyton Manning is going to pick a new uniform in the next month or two. If Pioli will make a serious play for him, it will have an arrowhead on the helmet. Why? Let's break it down...
Peyton wants two things that I think everyone can agree on. First and foremost, he wants SB rings. The team he chooses has to be able to make the playoffs every year, and then have an above average chance to make a run at the prize. He knows he's got e few years left, but only a few years. He is not going to waste even a year of that time waiting for a rebuild. Second, he does want money. He might not want to be the highest paid player in the game, or take such a big paycheck that it cripples the team around him, but he isn't going to sign for $8M a year, either. When he got a new deal from the Colts last year, and they said openly they were willing to make him the richest man in the NFL, he told the team to give him what Brady got, about $18M per, and spend any savings on some help for him. It's crystal clear that they fumbled that request badly. With the injury concerns he is facing, along with the desire to compete for championships, he may be willing to back off a couple million from that. It is even being reported that he will take an incentive laden contract. I still expect him to demand $15-$16M, even if it's, say, $10M base plus $2M if he plays 12 games, $1M if he makes the playoffs, $1M if he makes the SB, and $1M if he wins it... That would be a great deal for the Chiefs, and we are one of only a handful of teams who can even pull that off without wholesale changes to the existing squad.
I personally think Manning will stay in the AFC. The NFC has at least one, if not more, dominant team/QB in every division. The west is the weakest, but SF is hot off a 13 win season, has one of the toughest Ds in the league, and looks like the player there for several years. Unless they are willing to dump Alex Smith and sign Peyton themselves, which looks very doubtful, I can't see Arizona or Seattle being a serious player. StL certainly isn't in a position financially to move on from Bradford, even if they wanted to, which they don't. The north has GB and Rodgers to contend with, and Detroit with Stafford looks pretty damn good, too. Chicago has Cutler, the Vikes just spent a 1st rounder on a QB and are rebuilding anyway. No home for Peyton here. The south has three teams set at QB in NO with Brees, Atlanta with Ryan, and Carolina with Newton. Even if TB dumped Freeman and made a run at him, this is no place for a QB who wants to see the playoffs this year. And the east is the worst of all. Washington will put big money on the table, but they are a disfunctional franchise with a flake for an owner, and then he would compete with Philly and Vick, Dallas and Romo, and of course the Giants with Eli. No way in hell he wants to knock Eli out of the playoffs in week 16 or 17, or worse yet play him in a wildcard game. I honestly think that the chance of a Manning Bowl alone will keep him in the AFC. There are fewer dominant teams over here, and not having his career and Eli's career working against each other is the final straw.
So what about the AFC? He's not going to the north. Pitt is set with Big Ben, Balt is sticking with Flacco, Cinci isn't giving up on Dalton after his rookie year ending up in the playoffs, and Cleveland can't win the division against those three even with Manning. Miami and the Jets have been rumored to be interested, but I don't see him wanting to compete with Brady for a playoff spot even if he was willing to be part of a rebuilding process in Miami or Buffalo, and Rex Ryan is crazier than Dan Snyder. They aren't really in a position to get rid of Sanchez, and the locker room there is a mess Peyton won't want to be involved in. There might be a little temptation to stay in the south and give Indy fits, but Houston is set at qb with Shaub and now a promising rookie to develop and Jax just sucks too bad to compete. Tennessee might actually be our biggest competition for Manning imo. The west is a natural fit. Four mediocre teams battling it out. Oakland is stuck with Palmer for better, or much more likely worse. SD isn't giving up Phyllis, but they have been self-destructing for several years and it is incredibly likely their window has already closed. Denver could make a push, but they have the only QB in the league more popular than Manning. Signing there would be a nightmare unless they actually had the balls to trade Tebow off, and there's no way Elway has got the balls to do it. He's just going to have to work with Tebow and hope he can get enough better to make the Donkeys more than an also ran come playoff time.
That just leaves us. Coming off a season where despite crippling injuries and an ugly GM/HC divorce mid-season, we were still a blocked fg away from the playoffs. Get Berry back and have Manning lead an offense that could actually sustain a 4 minute drive and score 20 points a game, and this defense is top 10 in the league. Add a run stuffing NT and we might be top 3. Best running back Peyton has ever handed off to, solid group of WRs people had actually heard of before Manning got here, and an exciting TE to check down to? All in place. The line could use some help, but if we brought in Saturday to be his center, let Lilja, Asamoah, and Hudson fight it out for the guard spots, and spend the 12th pick on a RT, Peyton could send a couple of them to the probowl. There's no reason to think this team couldn't win the west every year until Peyton retires. We've got one of the most respected GMs in the league with plenty of money under the cap to fill any holes that come up and a stable, experienced, "player's coach" to offer Manning. And the 12th man? The home-field advantage at Arrowhead (which would be packed to capacity every single week with him under center) is like having a 12th and a 13th defender! We get him a regular season shot at Indy and Luck for the next two years, and he won't see Eli unless they both make the SB until 2014. And I haven't even mentioned BBQ yet!
There are 15 or 20 teams that currently harbor a pipe dream of signing Manning. For the Chiefs, it's no pipe dream. Hopefully Pioli is on the phone with Archie Manning right now, because this is my new five year plan.
GO CHIEFS!!!!
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great wrtieup, thanks for posting!
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Hey ups, just wondering, and it's not a sarcastic question either
But if Orton doesn’t want to come back who would you want? Not including trading up for a QB
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
by AaronMannicci on Feb 4, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
outside of Manning ... as in realistic possibilities ... Campbell would be next on my list
at least at this point
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
ups is going to be the first person to get a manning chiefs jersey
its a lock
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Feb 4, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
Definitly!
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
by AaronMannicci on Feb 4, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I think he'd be there for me too, realistically
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
by AaronMannicci on Feb 4, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
Campbell would be a be at least a decent stopgap
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Thanks, ups
A compliment from you on a post wanting Manning means a lot… Have to admit I was hoping for a picture of a train, though ;)
sooner or later, God'll cut you down...
ha! hey, I did wreck it, my friend! and the more I think about it, the more I think you're right ...
this will happen … unless it doesn’t ;-)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
or it does
Meh...
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by Chief-blinders-on on Feb 4, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
I like it, you broke down the whole NFL outlook on where and why peyton would make a decision.
I have to say after reading this, i agree we are in the drivers seat to get peyton manning.
This was a great way to look at it
I hadn’t broken it down division by division. If Manning is working on this same line of thinking, and money isn’t his #1 factor (hey…it could be), then I think San Fran is our #1 competitor. They made it to the NFC championship and almost won. The main reason they didn’t is because Alex Smith likes throwing the ball at the ground two feet in front of his receivers (hmm…sounds like another QB I could name).
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I get the feeling SF will ride it out
They can extend Smith for a couple more years relatively cheaply, and they took Kaepernick in the second last year to groom. Smith was their 1st overall in ’05 and is finally coming into his own.
Obviously it’s Peyton so anything can happen, but I don’t think the 49ers will make much of a play…
sooner or later, God'll cut you down...
Just plan on:
Cassel, we’re a joke to Manning. Especially since we just hired Daboll
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by mu-chief-stl.cards fan on Feb 4, 2012 5:30 PM CST reply actions
You mean we hired a guy who managed to make Matt Moore
Look like a decent QB, and Reggie Bush look like a decent RB?
My God, we’re the joke of the NFL!!!!!
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
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Check the Phinsider to see what MIA fans think of Daboll
It’s overwhelmingly positive.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
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I would love to get a healthy Manning in KC
but we should probably make sure we aren’t looking through rose-colored glasses here. “We” think KC should be attractive for Peyton. I also “thought” KC would be attractive to Jeff Fisher. Obviously, it was just the opposite in that case.
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Jeff Fisher wanted power that a strong GMlike Pioli wasn't going to give up.
Plus Romeo earned the job anyway. The players would have revolted if Crennel didn’t get the permanent gig.
This is totally different. The only thing going against KC with Manning is the weather. Miami or a dome might be appealing. Other than that, hopefully he will see that we are his best chance at more SBs, and Pioli will realize that Manning is our best chance at SBs. From there it’s just a contract negotiation.
sooner or later, God'll cut you down...
I don't his name, but some guy on NFL Network said this today:
“I’ll just say this, some players are done when they put on another uniform. Peyton isn’t done.”
I think Peyton has made a decision already where he is going, it’s just a secret. We’ll find out.
While I do not want us to sign Manning (to old, health, not wanting another retread...even if it is Manning, etc)...
…I wreck’ed the post….very well written.
Yes it our fan base wouldn't go nuts?
Yeah he’s from there but they have young jake Locker their not spending money on him.
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
by AaronMannicci on Feb 5, 2012 7:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Best
write I’ve seen yet from anyone about the real possibility of Mannings future IF Indy cuts him. We shall see what happens though. I’d rather have Manning on a short term plan that waste our entire draft trying to get RGIII. I’d rather get our QBOTF Next year with Matt Barkley!
Great Article
Now you made it more understandable for all us start praying. i think Peyton is okay and I know this is his first real injury he deserve a chance and I would love to have him
Great read but
I think everyone will be disappointed because Pioli said they are going to bring in competition. I think this “competition” is just going to be someone who has the same skill set as Cassel to make him work harder. But one thing I have noticed from Cassel is he looks very good when he has solid protection. But, when he is rattled and has to scramble that is when he threw his picks. I don’t know just thought, but could it be the solution
Dexter McCluster
Don't get your hopes up...
He will have to pass through any teams Dr.s first, and who wants to be the guy that signs off on that? Nice write up though.
Well written post
Unfortunately it misses out on a major point. Chiefs FANS have a Manning pipe dream. Chiefs FO have no desire to spend the kind of money it would take to win a Manning competition. Would a healthy Manning be a great fit here? You Bet! Would Hunt and Pioli spend that money and commit to making it happen? No freaking way.
"Trying is the first step to sucking" -Jimmy Chance
they spent to get montana
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
i basically did this a week or so ago.
49ers, Jets, Chiefs and Broncos make the most sense…with the 49ers and Jets making the most of the most.
I wouldn’t call the AFC West mediocre. SD is aging, but still fairly solid…they just aren’t consistent and have a wimpy mentality. Denver won the AFC West. They have a pretty solid defense, decent running game and good young developing receivers. KC has a very good defense, that hopefully after another solid off-season will become one of the top 5 in the NFL. Assuming Charles goes back close to his pre-injury condition (as well as the other injured players), and assuming Bowe is re-signed, we’re just a competent OC and QB away from being a solid, perennial playoff team. Daboll could be that OC, and Manning could be that OC.
49ers need better receivers…and perhaps a QB upgrade (nothing against Smith). The Jets…basically the same thing. However, 49ers are in the NFC, as is Eli. I agree (and as I said about a week or two ago, I think the Manning family wants to see Peyton and Eli face each other in a SB). Furthermore, for the family, both boys playing in NY would have to be uber tempting. 16 home games in NY for Archie??
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Yeah, I think Peyton could go to the Broncs
He’s the 1 one guy Elway could get to knock Tebow back down to backup, and the fans wouldn’t crucify Elway for doing so. The 49ers being my mistress, I wouldn’t mind a healthy Peyton going there either. Smith isn’t the long term answer. Harbaugh and his OC milked about as much as they could out of him last season. Smith’s another Matty Nice – inconsistent and erratic footwork, throwing mechanics, accuracy; is weak-armed; and gets happy feet when the pressure is on. Hell, a 80% capacity Peyton would be better than Smith.
Let’s say Peyton does come back with only 80-90% of what his arm once was. If he still has very good short to medium accuracy, and his brain works, he could still kickass with a strong pass-pro OL, a good running game to take the pressure off him, along with a D to keep games from becoming a shootout – but might need a better 2nd and 3rd WR’s though, unless Crabtree and Josh both really step-up. Peyton could also – with us possessing the run game, receiving weapons and strong D – be a good match for us. But only if we IMPROVE our OL at PASS-PRO quite a bit!
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by LocoLoboChico on Feb 6, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
Great write up but...
I just don’t see Pioli signing a player who is negotiating his contract via Twitter. Peyton’s war with Irsay last week, in the middle of Super Bowl week, is about as anti-Pioli as it gets.
It’s a nice dream and I wouldn’t mind the move (I fondly remember how jazzed I was the day they announced the Montana signing-which, BTW, was a different regime) but there is just no way this happens sports fans.
Just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys.
Could happen, but a couple of areas I disagree.
The rest of the NFL doesn’t really consider KC to be close to a good team. Only Chiefs supporters feel that way. It is really understandable when you look at our record the past couple of years. We just generally can’t beat good teams (GB being an outlier). Beating up on the lower level teams isn’t going to sell a Peyton Manning. He will look for a team that is right on the verge of being in the SB hunt. We aren’t there yet. Really we are about two years away from being consistently good.
I also think he will end up in Miami. They are not a rebuilding team as mentioned. They were a very good team last year with very mediocre QB play. Another solid receiver to compliment Marshall and they are competing for the AFC East. The other thing they have going for them is the fact they are in southern Florida. Sorry, but most people like warm weather over cold. Beach over snow. He is from the south and will look to move that way, still stay in the AFC, and get to play head-to-head against Brady each year. It also doesn’t hurt that the rumor is the Dolphins owner is hinting that he will pay whatever it takes to get him.
Someone
needs to send this to Pioli…now…right away…
Get Manning (if healthy)…do what it takes…it is our shortest path to the SB…then shore up that line for him…get DeCastro and Sanders in the draft and bring Jacob Tamme over with Peyton from the Colts, or get Dreessen or Chambers or Finley or Carlson, heck there are a BUNCH of decent TE’s in FA. Resign McClain. Heck, bring over Saturday for a few years, while Hudson keeps learning C and rotating in at G with Lilja and Asamoah. Manning will lead us to the promised land. Or at least the playoffs, like Montana did 18 years ago….






























