Brian Daboll 2012 Chiefs OC Official
by kcchiefs3119 on Feb 3, 2012 11:37 PM CST
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Adam shefter just reported that the chiefs hired Brian Daboll, ex dolphins OC for the vacant chiefs OC job. Me and along with other chiefs fans were hoping for the return of al saunders. I don't know much about him but I saw he was on the patriots with RAC when they won 3 super bowls. What are your thoughts? So far so good for me, I'll continue to research how he's done in the past.
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BOOOOOOOO!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Gawd! Come on!
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
I was hoping for Saunders
But honestly, that’s because I haven’t heard much of anything about Daboll
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
A career 20th or worse ranked offense type OC
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Feb 3, 2012 11:44 PM CST up reply actions
The equivalent of ours?
Derek Anderso n = Matt Cassel
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Feb 4, 2012 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
More importantly...
…who is ours?
by jbj8609 on Feb 4, 2012 12:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Because calling plays in Cleveland = success.
I prefer to look at how he grew from effing up with the Browns, and making a pretty good season out of it in Miami this year.
I wanted Saunders as bad as the next guy, but I’m willing to wait and see on Coach Daboll. His learning curve looks pretty steep. Plus, he’s worked in Erhardt AND Coryell style offenses. It shows he’s likely less of a “system” guy….that’s a plus.
Hmm. We’ll see.
Vermin Supreme in 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rji74B453JY
Just saw this on ESPN.
FAIL!
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Not a bad hire...
He ran a very versetile offense. The first SB they won was based on heavy usage of Cory Dillon… They made an easy transition to Brady and a wide open passing attack. He’s from the school of thought that (like Weis) doesnt really have a set system. He changes the offense to best attack the opposing defense…. at least, that’s the Weis claim to fame. Good thing is that this allows KC to keep the same personel and base system. No major changes.
But, like I voted…… We’ll see
He's got four years' experience in the Coryell offense too (time with the Jets).
So he does have outside experience with other offenses…
He did run an ugly offense in Cleveland, but so far, so has anyone not named “Chud.”
Could be a good hire…could be a fuckup. I’m keeping my mind open; like you, I was impressed by what he got done in Miami this year.
Vermin Supreme in 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rji74B453JY
Initial feeling is let down and disappointment.
Not a fan of this move. Not a proven oc in the least. I can’t see this guy bringing any sort of spark to this offense.
And I’m a tad sick of new england’s leftovers.
by bossmanham on Feb 4, 2012 12:06 AM CST via mobile reply actions
It's not like the guy stayed in NE because he couldnt do anything anywhere else.
He left to coach the Jets wide receivers, then he coached the Jets quarterbacks, then he called plays in Cleveland in ’09 (note: He evidently treated McCoy like hell, but McCoy also had an above-average rookie year, too). Finally, he and his staff turned Reggie Bush and Matt Moore into starters at the NFL level.
I wanted Al Saunders, but I’m happier with this than a Zorn promotion and WAY, way happier with this than a Carthon promotion. Mo Carthon is to coaching as Fazoli’s is to fine dining.
Vermin Supreme in 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rji74B453JY
yeah al saunders would of been nice, don't know enought about this dude
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
I think he's good but I wanted Al
…but I think the Raiders are going to hold on to Al for spite. Daboll uses the Weiss/McDaniels offense to a good degree so that’s in place already.
Daboll is highly motivated...
…he was thought almost as highly of by Bellichick as McDaniels and left Pats because he wasn’t made QB coach.
Highly motivated...
But has still sucked.
by bossmanham on Feb 4, 2012 12:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Did you watch the Miami game this year? 38-3?
He’s not an exciting hire, but he doesn’t suck, I don’t think.
Any man who can make Cassel’s brother from another mother, Matt Moore, look legit as a starter has to be worth at least a look-see.
Vermin Supreme in 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rji74B453JY
No.
Guy has never proven anything other than being mediocre at best. I was OK with making Romeo interim coach with the impression that they’d go out and get an up-and-coming or proven OC that could light some fire under the offense. Instead we have another journeyman. I’m willing to admit I could be totally wrong here, but I’d venture to say you now how have nothing to be excited about with the 2012 chiefs.
by jbj8609 on Feb 4, 2012 12:23 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Your kidding right?
With what we have coming back? I don’t care who they hired I’m excited
by KCNorm on Feb 4, 2012 6:11 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
I think he's done well with what he has had
Colt McCoy regressed greatly without him, he made the most out of Miami with no QB…I loved Al but Al had a Hall of Fame O-line
Second coming of Haley
Read an article about him on Yahoo. He used to yell at Colt McCoy in his helmet while he was trying to call plays. Other Browns players didn’t approve of his methods. Sounds like a real winner to me.
That's exactly why I like the hire
He does sound alot like Haley, at least demeanor wise. Hopefully he can be as innovative and creative offensively because the Offense is gonna be his alone.
And look at the season McCoy had under this yeller and screamer, in '10, compared to what he did last year.
Methinks two things…
a) the story is over the top
b) McCoy needs a boot up his ass (as do a lot of Texas players at the NFL level)
c) a little of both.
I like Mike Silver and the Yahoo crew, but they took that quote straight from McCoy’s book. That’s like asking Timberlake what he thought of Britney right after they broke up…or what Parcells thought of Belichick right after he stiffed the Jets for NE.
Vermin Supreme in 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rji74B453JY
Not too bad
I overreacted at first but after research I rescind my initial thoughts.
He is a versital creative play caller. He has had terrible teams to coordinate. So his end results have not been great.
He played defensive back in college and started out coaching defense so he knows both sides of the ball. He has coached WR’s and QB’s.
A good endorsement by Chad Pennington in this article… http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2011/01/17/chad-pennington-says-he-learned-so-much-from-new-dolphins-oc-brian-daboll-and-vows-to-make-one-last-comeback-attempt/
How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn
by Matt_Grbac on Feb 4, 2012 12:40 AM CST via mobile reply actions 5 recs
Another good read on Daboll
How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn
by Matt_Grbac on Feb 4, 2012 12:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
Exactly. I want to give the guy a shot.
Given some talent and three, four quarterbacks who can run an NFL offense, have him pick the better passer of the three/four, and go to war.
We’re going to feed the ball to Charles a TON, if my read on his playcalling in MIA is correct. Thats always a plus.
Vermin Supreme in 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rji74B453JY
Who gives a sh#t what Pennington thinks
Im seriously pissed, Im also sick of the Patriot way, the only good ex-patriot coach is Romeo.
MIZ-DGB
by mu-chief-stl.cards fan on Feb 4, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
A solid stat
Miami scored 30 or more pts in 4 of their last 9 games last season.
How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn
by Matt_Grbac on Feb 4, 2012 12:53 AM CST via mobile reply actions
best of all ... it's NOT Hue Jackson
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Yeah
I’m warming up to Daboll as our OC. What about u?
How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn
by Matt_Grbac on Feb 4, 2012 12:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Might as well.
It does no good to hang from the ledge. Might as well hope for the best.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
I'm down with that ... not a "sexy" pick but in the end could end up being a solid pick, and that's all one can ask for
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Not my choice.
But I had reservations about all the candidates. As I said earlier, the bar for this offense is so low, I’m excited about any kind of change.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
There really wasn't a guy out there that was head and shoulders better.
For me, that was Bruce Arians, but who knows how that would have went.
Hopefully Brian can figure out some new ways to utilize Dexter and Jammaal. The good part about this is all of the terms will be similar so the learning curve will be easier for the offense.
The best part is, no matter who it is, it is a fresh perspective and the Chiefs needed that more than anything. If Daboll is ever going to be a good OC, he should be able to start with all of the Chiefs weapons.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Feb 4, 2012 1:13 AM CST up reply actions
Best thing I've heard about him
is that he’s not rigid. He’s innovative and adapts to his personnel, instead of trying to fit square pegs into round holes.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
The biggest thing I wanted was new coaches
Some people to come in and look at what we have and make some solid smart adjustments, because the talent is there.
This is a good foundation of a team, they just need some help getting a little better. Hopefully, they can take what they learned from Todd, add a little Daboll salt to it and be ready to go.
It is definitely not a sexy pick though.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Feb 4, 2012 1:25 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If we'd promoted Carthon, I would have been eating babies. That would have been an unforgiveable sin.
Vermin Supreme in 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rji74B453JY
By utilize charles
You mean give him the ball right
by KCNorm on Feb 4, 2012 6:15 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Yes sir...
Hoping for a solid WR and Oline coach. Should find them out soon.
How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn
by Matt_Grbac on Feb 4, 2012 1:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
A Will Shields hire will cheer everyone up.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Feb 4, 2012 1:09 AM CST up reply actions
Kansas City needed a hero...
But instead got this:
Hopefully it’s a clever secret identity?
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Feb 4, 2012 1:08 AM CST reply actions
I highly doubt Daboll looks anything like the lady above as a disguise
Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
by nateforchiefs on Feb 4, 2012 2:20 AM CST up reply actions
Ahhhhh,
I see you have found my point.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Feb 4, 2012 2:34 AM CST up reply actions
He does have manboobs...which means, don't let him wear that Super Shirt.
Coming from another man with a fluffy body….I know the consequences ;)
Vermin Supreme in 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rji74B453JY
i'm sure the chick could plays better than Muir/Haley
Hot chick-“Hey Kyle throw the ball deep to Baldwin or Bowe. Those plays are cool”
Orton-“You’re the boss”
Mitch Holthus-"TOUCHDOWWWWWWWWNN KAN-SAS CITY
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Feb 4, 2012 6:50 AM CST up reply actions
Al Saunders would have been nice.
But at the same time, we all thought Gunther would succeed in his trip back to KC and how did that work out?
Meh… I’m trying Brian Daboll. This will take some time to get use to… like Bill Muir last year. Ugh.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Feb 4, 2012 1:16 AM CST up reply actions
Plus, all three of the top positions would be 65 years old.
That concerned me, even though I too wanted Saunders. We’d be looking at replacing the entire staff, possibly, in just a few years. Plus, he hasn’t really done anything special outside of that run with Vermeil.
I never did get used to Bill Muir, so I hope it’s not like that.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
Yep that was a concern of mine too, if you read my fan shot 197.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Feb 4, 2012 1:26 AM CST up reply actions
best part is he is 36
Daboll may be our HCoTF if he works out
There are no stupid questions just stupid people
Yep.
Possible bridge to the future that we wouldn’t have with Saunders.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
Stuff like this is a bother
It’s hard to describe the style of offense the Browns were running the past two seasons under former head coach Eric Mangini and former offensive coordinator Brian Daboll. Archaic and simplistic are some words that come to mind. Cleveland’s passing game was very conservative and it was a big reason why president Mike Holmgren made the coaching change to an offensive mind in Pat Shurmur.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Feb 4, 2012 1:44 AM CST up reply actions
Party pooper!
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
Wait...
Party?
Who was celebrating?
The hire is what is it is. Now it’s time for the Chiefs to move forward on offense.
Daboll’s to the wall.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Feb 4, 2012 2:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
and yet, all of the articles in Miami talked about his creativity and ability to motivate.
I think he learned from his time in Cleveland….seriously, outside of Chudzinski, who has succeeded in that town since 1999? And they’ve had a parade of good to decent coaches swing through town, too.
Vermin Supreme in 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rji74B453JY
bout friggen time
Now bench cassel.
by chiefnation on Feb 4, 2012 1:50 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Well he'll get his chance
Yes none of his offenses have ranked high but he’s only been a OC for three years. Plus none of the teams had much talent, so I wouldn’t spend to much time looking into it. I like what he did with miami last year and the fact that he is a intense coach might be a good thing considering most of the remaining staff is pretty laid back. Now I just hope he’s the type that wants to decide who starts and sits and isn’t afraid to tell the GM no.
Wonder if this means we have some miami free agents heading our way?
Daboll?????
If the idiot wasn’t part of the McCoy situation, i’d say this was a good hire. What he did with Reggie Bush was unexpected. I thought Reggie would fall on his face. Even McCoy did well with his offense. But he seems to be another problem child.Next we’ll hire the guy that tripped the guy out of bounce.
It seems like a bunch of jerks came from the Patriots or are still there. So if you are happy with all the jerks as long as you win. This was a good hire. If you want to be treated fairly at a game. Or your drafted Qb to be helped along instead of some childish garbage. This was a bad hire.
by Totally confused on Feb 4, 2012 5:23 AM CST reply actions
And yet, no one called him an a-hole in Miami. Chad Pennington and others really stuck up for the guy.
Bear in mind, that bitchout section in the Yahoo article was quoted from McCoy’s book. That’s like your best friend and his wife divorcing, and then you asking him “How were things with the old lady, anyway?”.
Yup. You’ll have stories just like McCoy’s.
That’s all I’m sayin’….consider the source.
Vermin Supreme in 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rji74B453JY
What was RAC looking for?
Brian Daboll !!
1. Someone he knew and trusted.
2. A creative play caller who had no set system.
3. OC who knew how to attack different defences.
4. A small learning curve for his offensive players.
5. A OC who had sucess with very average QB’s & had experience working with QB’s.
6. A OC who could get all his playmakers involved in every game, thus a better chance for sucess!
Hopefully he brings the PBS with him.
I’m sick of the ZBS.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 4, 2012 11:18 AM CST reply actions
The way I see it
we went form a 7-9 team to a 6-10 team
MIZ-DGB
by mu-chief-stl.cards fan on Feb 4, 2012 4:24 PM CST reply actions
so having Jamaal Charles, Tony Moeaki, Eric Berry, Gabe Miller, Brandon SIler
all back from injury and in be in camp.
Plus, having a full offseason with some new coaches and perspective for a rising team is going to cost them one game in the long run?
Even though they had Bill Muir/ Jim Zorn/ Todd Haley calling plays last season horribly and some substantial injuries, okay I am not really following your logic on that one, but to each their own predictions.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Feb 4, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
Yep. Whoever coaches this team in 2012 gets a better hand than Haley was dealt.
so having Jamaal Charles, Tony Moeaki, Eric Berry, Gabe Miller, Brandon SIler
all back from injury and be in camp.
Plus, having a full offseason with some new coaches and perspective for a rising team is going to cost them one game in the long run?
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Feb 5, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
good hire
He made a sub-par team score 24 points a game with a average QB. If that is not being a good OC then im not sure what is. What would the chiefs record be if we scored 24 points a game? Tom coughlin isnt regarded as being a nice coach to players and he seems to still get wins out of his players. Stats are in the eye of the beholder. go chiefs!!
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