One move changes all of that. Short of Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning is the prize of the off-season. This story is even overshadowing the Super Bowl of all things. This is the big fish. If the Chiefs were to get him, they instantly become not only the favorites in the AFC West but guaranteed of several prime time games. The reality is that not only would they instantly sell a million of anything remotely team-related, but any and all ill feelings would dissipate immediately. A PR nightmare needs a salve that heals all wounds. Peyton is that salve.
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The biggest hurdle
Is that he’s also the perfect fit for about 20 other teams. Chiefs very well could be interested but it’d still be a longshot.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 2, 2012 6:22 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
yep
The only real advantage KC has over other contending teams is cash.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
And that we don't have an OC
Maybe a qualified QB could help chose one ;)
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Chiefs will have an OC long before Manning is even released.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
this time next week, OC will be in place
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
Yep.
Or about a month before Manning is released.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
yup
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
So is it next week or a obout a month before Manning is released?
lol, you guys are Chiefs-adamus
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*about
If this was a Canadian site it would be “about”
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No, it would then be "aboot"
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
aboot, oboot....depends on whether you're french canadian
Poor bastards need their own country ;)~
(I’m just waiting for the canucks to release the hounds)
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He probably won't be released until just before his roster bonus is due.
No reason for the Colts to release him much earlier than that. Luck could get in a car wreck next week.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
Then they'd get RGIII
Manning is done in Indy if anything else, he’s tired of Irsay’s B.S., but the B.S. is worth the $28mil. wait.
Also, I’m not saying he’ll never play again…that’s TBD based on medical.
At least that’s what I think. They’re waiting until after Eli plays.
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RG3 is less of a prospect.
And they might decide to keep Manning over him. Either way, there is no benefit to cutting Manning before they have to.
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I'd laugh my ass off if Luck pulled one of these
A wise man once told me:
“There are no absolutes, everything is negotiable”
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He put that to rest long ago.
He said he’d happily play for whichever team drafts him.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
So you don't believe him?
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
I question everything and everyone in sports and politics
I don’t discriminate in either.
And I believe TG when he said he’ll move back to KC after playing in ATL.
Riiiiight
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Rules are in place now
that make it very difficult for someone to pull an Elway/Eli move these days anyway.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
I notice you said "difficult", not "impossible"
Rules are in place for a lot of things, including ponzi schemes, but that really didn’t work out.
Anyway, no biggie. I was just making an observation.
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"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
Therein lies the rub.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
disagree
name the other 20
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I disagree too but its all dependent how you look at at.
Peyton fits with 20 other teams because he would be an improvement over 20 of the teams QB. But those 20 teams aren’t a fit for Peyton. That list is probably 4-5 teams and the Chiefs would probably be top 3 in appeal.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
Not to mention cap space
People keep mentioning Oakland and they hit their cap. There’s no way 3-4 guys give up huge sums to get him there. Won’t happen.
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They also have 1, 2, 3 and 4 draft picks wrapped up in QBs already.
They’re not going to be in the Manning sweepstakes. They’re not going to give up on Palmer that quickly.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
I have heard the Peyton news
On 5 networks now. Every one mentioned some places where Peyton might end up. Not one mentioned the Chiefs. There has been at least one Peyton post per day here, (Or one QB post that turns into a Peyton post) all heavily commented, but everyone outside of rabid, wishful thinking fans know that the Chiefs are not one of the serious players.
And don’t talk about cap space. The Chiefs are ecstatic that there is no salary floor until 2013, and I believe they will keep their payroll low while they still can. (As they did last year) This is just simply not going to happen.
"Trying is the first step to sucking" -Jimmy Chance
I hope you're wrong about keeping payroll low
Because that’ll mean we lose both Carr and Bowe…
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Agree with your disagreement.
Several teams have the need at QB, but not all of them have much cap space. Of those that do, not all are attractive destinations. The Browns would probably love to sign Manning, but he probably wants to go to a team more ready to compete for a Super Bowl.
In terms of teams with cap space, a need at QB, and the type of roster that’s otherwise ready to compete for a Super Bowl, only the 49ers would arguably be a better fit for Manning than the Chiefs.
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- MNchiefsfan
There are about 5 teams that are legitimately in the hunt.
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In the Hunt?
Only the Chiefs have a Hunt for owner!
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by Tarkus on Feb 2, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd for my well-established love of terrible puns.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
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I have to disagree Joel
I don’t think he will play for a NFC team because of ELI. I think we have a great shot.
by Alaskan Chief on Feb 2, 2012 6:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'd rather pay the Colts or Rams $40-60 million for their draft pick
I’ve got no interest in a guy with maybe 3 years left in the tank who only hopes to be some semblance of what he once was.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Feb 2, 2012 6:40 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I don't disagree with that
but if you’re going to leverage the future of your organization, leverage it on the future of your organization.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Feb 2, 2012 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Whoa now...
Keep that talk to yourself… No one wants to hear about stuff like the rules! :)
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
How would it leverage the future of our organization
If we sign him without giving away draft picks?
We could still fill the holes in this team through the draft/FA. The only difference would be we’d have a franchise QB to contend with for a few years while looking for a young QB to develop.
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I keep seeing that same sentiment around here and it blows my mind
People thinking we cripple ourselves long term by picking up free agent Manning.
That’s the perfect scenario. Win now with an established future HOF QB. Meanwhile, draft your future starter and develop him (and keep a legitimate QB coach if / when Zorn leaves the position! – so the youngsters actually develop).
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
Yeah since Montana did so little in KC
We have a chance to win now. This can happen in parallel with developing a QB. Why be a bunch of pussies?
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by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 2, 2012 6:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
did Montana have 3 neck surgeries in 18 months?
Peytons fused neck on top of his already lack of mobility scares the shit out of me. I just know were gonna see him go down for good if he continues to play.
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NBA Champs over Miami Heat
So you know more than his expert doctors?
They say it’s no longer about risk, but only performance (arm strength).
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
Im not saying I know more than the "experts"
I just know what its like to have a part of your spine fused and how yo never fully recover. They can say hes 100% healthy and no risk but they CANT guarantee that no further injury will happen.
I had my back operated on by the supposed best doctor in the country according to references and was told I was good being I was 17 and healthy and would have zero problems, didnt stop me from having to have another even more major surgery 4 months later and now 11 years later not a day goes by that I dont have some complication from a fused back whether its being bed ridden for up to a week or sudden pains that bring me to my knees feeling like someones stabbing me with a Bowie knife.
If he comes back I hope Im wrong but I just have a feeling this will not end well for him.
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(7-9) My record of picking Chiefs games before the season
(12-4) My Chiefs before the season prediction
Thunder Win-Loss 2011-2012 record (52-14)
Western division champs
NBA Champs over Miami Heat
His doctor said that if he were his own son he'd tell him to get his ass back on the field
Good enough for me.
But what does he know
compared to all the doctors on AP?
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
Im not claiming to be a doctor
but Im also not claiming to be a soothsayer and know the future either. Doctors are people and are just as prone to have there opinions be wrong as well. Just look at all the reports of doctors screwing up something or other you hear about. They’re not infallible
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(12-4) My Chiefs before the season prediction
Thunder Win-Loss 2011-2012 record (52-14)
Western division champs
NBA Champs over Miami Heat
In addition to that
some doctors put mental well being ahead of physical and some the other way around. Peyton may need to get back on the field just to cofirm that he can’t—if you see what I mean.
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by Aiken_Drum on Feb 3, 2012 8:09 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Trust me, I'm a doctor
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
by TRSChief on Feb 3, 2012 8:08 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
no but he had a baloon for an elbow on his throwing arm
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It's not about being a pussy
It’s about using some common sense. Peyton doesn’t give a flip about the Chiefs or bringing a Lombardi Trophy to KC. He wants another $60 million before he walks.
If you’re going to spend $60 million or whatever bloated figure, spend it on a guy that’s gonna grow in your city and be there for 10-15 years.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Feb 2, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
In one case you spend money in another you spend money and draft picks
Which one is the greater risk long term?
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by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 2, 2012 8:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If it was that simple, sure...
but you know Pioli & Co are not going to want to spend a bunch of money if they have the QB situation taken care of in the short-term. They’ll be trying to get off cheap and find the next Tom Brady instead of drafting someone with better odds at being the number one.
I have this terrible fear that bring Peyton Manning here would make the last half of the 10s look like the last half of the 90s as far as the Chiefs’ QB situation goes.
Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.
by joplin chiefs fan on Feb 2, 2012 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
That's easy to say
When you aren’t the one writing the $60M checks.
by workingmansdead on Feb 2, 2012 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not really, when they're going to be mandated to spend up to the new league salary floor in 2013 anyway
Check’s going to be written regardless.
Just a question of what you’re going to get for it.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
That couldn't be farther from the truth
The dudes taken pay cuts left and right. He wants to win, plain and simple. Has nothing to do with a paycheck, he’s already set.
Dude wants to win. More importantly he wants to beat the Colts for dumping him.
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
Never been about money?
You don’t think what he did today was anything more than a marketing ploy? He makes more from endorsements than he does football. If you don’t think he’s about getting paid, you’re seriously mistaken.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Feb 2, 2012 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This guy
It’s never been about ON THE FIELD money. Saying this guy just “wants another 60 mil” before he walks is the dumbest shit.
Not about the money
I guess that’s why it took until the end of last July (training camp) to finally work out his $90 million deal. I’m not saying he doesn’t play for the love of the game, but he isn’t going to do it for free. He commands a kings ransom and you know it.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Feb 2, 2012 8:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
As he should, its PEYTON FUCKIN MANNING
The guys gone a year and people forget how amazing this dude was(1 of the best damn QBS ever). If other teams are running to give it to em that paycheck, why the hell would he take a pay cut from a team clearly wanting to move away from em?
31 teams can step up to the plate to pay what he wants
I just hope it isn’t the Chiefs.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Feb 2, 2012 9:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Pay cuts?
Is that the story we’re going with regarding his $28M (or whatever it is) bonus next month?
by workingmansdead on Feb 2, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Read what I said
He’s taken pay cuts in the past to go get players. The guys never been about money. He’s also not stupid either. What, is he supposed to take a 50% paycut? Colts don’t wanna pay em period it seems not matter what the bonus is.
correction:
He’s re-structured his contract in the past to go get other players.
Re-structuring most often means converting salary (dollars that count against the cap) into bonuses (that can be front loaded or back loaded into another year) so that the team can free up enough cap room to sign whatever other players they are trying to sign.
I’m not saying Peyton is a money grubbing whore or anything.. just thought someone should steer you in the right direction about Mannings “pay-cuts”
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by Texas Chief on Feb 2, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You really think Peyton needs another $60 mil?
He is going to want to bring a SB to whatever team that is. It is his personality… Also you talk as if either of the QB’s in this years draft have proven anything in the NFL.
What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!
If he was in it for the cash he'd be selling SONY's from the trunk of his car.
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Money is going to play a factor into it
I don’t think he’d sign with Oakland no matter how much cash he threw at them. If it came down to KC, Seattle and Washington, he’d go to whoever throws the most dolla bills.
Money is a part
but he is going to go the best place that gives him a chance to win. Was will throw the most money at him but then he has to play his brother twice, Dal twice, Phi twice and not be on a very good O.
What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!
I don't neccessarily mean Washington, just in general
Take the most competitive, ready to win teams that don’t have a team, and watch them outbid each other.
Ur jokin right?
U think peyton manning wants to play for money? R u that stupid? The guy has more money than he could spend in 3 lifetimes and u think he wants to risk his health and safety to make more money?? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. He’s been listening to people and the media tell him all season that he might not be able to play football again and that he shuld just hang his cleats up. Not to mention his brother could possibly win his second Super Bowl while he only has 1. Whether the giants win or not, Peyton is hungrier now than he’s ever been and if he is fully recovered than there is no reason in hell y the chiefs shouldn’t make a run at him. Ur argument abt him just wanting money is downright dumb… I understand getting a young qb in the organization but we can afford someone like Peyton right now and we wouldn’t have to give up any draft picks or anything.. Giving up what it takes to get to the second or first pick is mortgaging ur future on an unknown and unproven player at the nfl level
by njchiefs29 on Feb 2, 2012 8:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
probably best to avoid name calling no matter the context
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
If it wasn't about money Manning would defer his 28 million bonus
And teach Andrew Luck a few things before he decides to hang it up. Manning is going to the most competitive team’s highest bidder. Plain and simple.
You dont defer $28 mil because then they can trade you to whoever gives them the most...
If he makes them cut him HE gets to pick his team. Would you want to be traded to Cle?
What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!
Pretty sure he cant...
NFL doesnt have “No trade clauses” I have never seen a contract that allows a player to block anything. The only thing that keeps some teams from trading is if it is the last year of his current contract and he tells them he wont sign an extension with them.
What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!
I'm nearly positive you can put no trade clauses in contracts
Either way if he defers the 28 million I’m sure his agent would negotiate a no trade clause in return. I just googled it and a few players came up. I’m sure it’s in more, but there aren’t many star players who are actually traded.
Why would Manning
want to hurt his next team by having them trade draft choices and/or players to get him, when he can just go to whatever team he wants, and all they have to give up is money?
Even under your theory of a no trade clause, that’s still not near as good as outright free agency.
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I don't understand what you're saying
I’m saying he’s going to be a free agent either way, and that he wants to get paid by the most competitive team available. He’s not going to go to a dysfunctional team like Oakland, and I don’t see him going to DC where he has to play his brother.
I’m not talking at all about trading for him. He’s going straight into free agency because it’s the most logical thing for him to do.
I thought you were talking about
him deferring the $28M bonus, so the Colts could trade him.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
No no, I'm saying that if it wasn't about money
He could defer the 28 mill and re-negotiate his contract with a no trade clause so that he mentors Luck and then is on his way.
It’s obviously about money, and it’s obviously about winning. He’s going to the spot that can combine the two of them immediately.
Why would he be a backup?
Because that’s what he’d be in that situation.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
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mmmm....
Peyton only has one Lombardi. I would be willing to bet he wants more.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
I don't believe you can buy a draft pick.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
Whoa now...
Keep that talk to yourself… No one wants to hear about stuff like the rules! :)
What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!
Can't you trade draft picks and include compensation?
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Feb 2, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
I don't believe so.
Can you ever recall a trade in the NFL that included cash? It happens in MLB all the time, but not the NFL.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
If we were talking draft picks I would agree.
Spending the money does not necassarily have a long term impact on your team (especially when you are 30 million under the cap).
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Seems pretty risky situation to me
but hey, if it take a Manning to get a rid of that damn masked man in underwear riding the bear then I am all for it!
I am this close from stopping coming on here…I mean, I understand if they are just an advertising for few days but come on, man, this is getting ridiculous!
You're really going to stop coming to a site Joel and Chris work their asses off for because their bosses run something you dont like?
Deal with it. Get Adblock, or use the mobile site. This is the first time I’ve been on my comp all day and it’s really not that big of a deal.
Back on topic…
Obviously other teams are going to be interested, but it’s going to be the team that throws the most cash at him that wins. And I don’t mean a team like the Rams, but competitive teams.
Chiefs
Cardinals
Seahawks
Redskins (maybe)
49ers
I left the Jets off the list because they won’t be able to afford him (at least I don’t think so). The only other team I can see beating the Chiefs out on that list would be the 49ers. I’m not sure how their cap situation is looking at the moment though.
Actually
Chris just lost a bet. At least they let him wear a ski mask though.
Nicknames I have coined:
Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'
Yeah, it looks a little shopped to me.
Nicknames I have coined:
Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'
can you tell by the pixels?
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, yes
The pixels.
Nicknames I have coined:
Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'
adblocker or just zoom in on your browser
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
If I hit ctrl - do I get to see more!!!
The views expressed by craig in calgary do not necessarily represent the views of all Canadians.
Ctrl-alt-del if you want to see less.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
does alt-shift-prt sc still do that craziness?
i’m scared to try.
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
Hadn't heard of that before.
Just looked it up and then tried it (W7). Now it just brings up a dialog asking if I really want to change my screen contrast.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
BTW
from what I read, simply doing the same keypress again restores your old display on older versions of Windows.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
running POS vista and Chrome and I'm getting nothing... meh
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
Brings up Ease of Access control panel here on W7.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
Hmmmmm...well so much for microsoft working seemlessly across platforms
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ANALYZE with your head.
What's it do for you?
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
Buuuut, it might also have to do with the type of laptop/PC you have. Could be shortcuts from the manufacturer...dunno, that's a guess.
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
That's what the Ease of Access Center is for.
Difference is, you set it up first, in case you accidentally press a key that you don’t know what it’s for.
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i saw something that said some of the crazier ones have to be intel chipsets
i’m out of my depth now so i’ll see myself out.
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
If manning goes to KC
I believe the world really will end in 2012 or at least our playoff win drought
For constantly playing Palko, Haley needs to be fired
I'm fine with that
We finally win a super bowl, then the world ends.
WE GO OUT ON TOP, BABY!
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
I'm not interested in bringing Manning to KC.
What are we as Chiefs fans constantly complaining about? The fact that we have not drafted/developed our own quarterback EVER. As awesome as Peyton is, I don’t see the sense in paying a king’s ransom for a QB that’s only going to be around another 5 seasons, maximum. Sure, it’d be a huge deal, and yeah, adding him would make us contenders…but the window of opportunity to win a championship with him is too small. Let’s focus on continuing to improve our roster overall rather than chasing Manning.
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I have to agree
First, we aren’t sure if he’s ever gonna see the field again, much less at his former level.
Two, it just sounds like another stopgap solution. He’s at the end of his career.
Third, I’d rather improve 3 other positions than bring in Peyton.
Yes. we need a QB, but I don’t feel like a broken and aging Peyton is the answer.
by workingmansdead on Feb 2, 2012 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
why would Peyton
prevent you from improving 3 other positions?
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
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Because
Sippio.
Nicknames I have coined:
Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'
Simply because of the cash he would require.
by workingmansdead on Feb 2, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
It isn't like you have to committ to him long-term
The cash will be freed up again in 2-3 years when he retires.
Nicknames I have coined:
Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'
That was easy
Nicknames I have coined:
Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'
Ha nice.
I just don’t trust that he’s in playing shape/going to be at “Peyton” level.
by workingmansdead on Feb 2, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, you don't see that happen often on AP
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
The salary cap is going to explode in a couple years
The networks are probably going to double what they pay for broadcasting rights, which translates into nearly double the salary cap.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
You are incredibly naive.
Double TV money would not affect the current CBA agreement. Then when it comes up, the owners (with Goodell as their fluffer) will agree to something like a 10% increase in the salary cap.
by workingmansdead on Feb 2, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
If we traded for Manning
Won a superbowl, and developed the next guy behind him, nobody would complain. It’d be a smart plan.
Too smart
The enemy would see it coming a mile away.
Nicknames I have coined:
Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'
If I had bought Google stock early
I’d be rich.
by workingmansdead on Feb 2, 2012 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
Help me understand
why are trading for Manning again when he is most likely going to be released
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
Twitter: @Mr_Hoosier
im sorry
But how can I trust a guy named Bobby Sippio
We are all brothers under the skin, and I for one, would be willing to skin humanity to prove it.
by antirl on Feb 2, 2012 8:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You can't man, and no one should!
"Toby has been cruising for a bruising for years, and I am now his cruise director. And my name, is Captain Bruising."
by bobby sippio! on Feb 2, 2012 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
If the point is to draft/develop our own QB
Does that mean we have to suffer through mediocre play while we do so?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
We want Manning, and Manning should want us.
Other than the QB position, we have far more talent on our team than he ever had in Indy. Combine that with the large amount of cap space we have, I don’t see why we wouldn’t be one of the most likely teams to sign him.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Feb 2, 2012 9:01 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
True story.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
totally. and then use the picks and any other FA to give him as much protection as money can buy.
for that? I’d say byebye Carr and re-sign/tage Bowe.
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
don't tage me browe?
oops….
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
Let's sign Manning
And also get another top 15 CB in a Carr replacement and also get a NT and also get another ILB and also get some OL help and also get…
Pipe dreams are great but let’s turn Madden off and get real.
by workingmansdead on Feb 2, 2012 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
I've never played Madden.
But no reason why the Chiefs shouldn’t be in the running for Manning.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
in no way is what I said based on Madden moves.
thanks for commenting though wmd
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
Right on guys
But I am very skeptical as to his playing condition right now and I don’t believe that the Chiefs are a team that can go out and sign any/every FA they want.
He’s a huge risk money-wise and though we all agree that a decent QB will do a heck of a lot of good, I’m not convinced he’s our guy. That money can be used in better ways IMO.
by workingmansdead on Feb 2, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
You make it sound like we can't use draft picks on some of those positions we need to patch up
And that FA is the only way we’ll ever be able to fill those holes.
Pay Manning cash money. Spend draft picks for O Line, ILB, S (depth), NT
Win-win?
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
I think many teams will go after Manning. He's a top 10 qb in the history of the game.
And everything does look great in KC, except the guys up front protecting the fused neck. I think we can work on that.
Is there a team that would be in the mix that has a great o-line?
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 2, 2012 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
Jets oline is gettng old and their RT is a sieve
And they have lockerroom issues and a coach that rivals Haley for douchebaggery.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
They look worse than they actually are...because of their current QB
As far as RT, they can get that in the first round or through FA.
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
They're getting old and the whole right side needs to be replaced
He asked for great and I wouldnt call the Jets oline great.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
I disagree....but opinions are like assholes, so there we go :)
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
Filthy and in need of cleaning?
That doesn’t sound right….
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
Well considering the type of posters (including myself) we need some posts from sexassassin
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
Jets O Line was great. Has been for the last few years.
This season they finally tapered off into merely “good”.
And they’re declining rapidly. But probably 2 holes to fill with younger bodies and they’re right back up in the top 3-5 in the league if the youngsters pan out.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
Their RT is a sieve...
See any similarities?
by workingmansdead on Feb 2, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
Mannings style of play doesn't require a great oline.
That and Drs have cleared his neck injury as healed and ready to play again and no Dr. would say that if he was at any greater risk to re-injure it.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
Far more talent than he ever had in Indy?
Pretty bold statement. Seems pretty even, maybe slanted towards Indianapolis.
Better Oline here
Better RB, TEs are pretty even and the COlts probably get the nod in WRs when Wayne and Harrison were in their prime.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
c'mon, they had manning throwing to them
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 2, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
you're right
Edge and the colts had the rushing title wrapped up every season..
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 2, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
I think he was a product of facing 6 man fronts most of the game with the constant threat of pass
He’s never had the break out speed and shiftiness that Charles has,
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
You can go both ways with that.
Charles doesn’t have the power to get short yardage that James did. If Charles has a few more good years, he’ll be on the level of James. As of now, he is just a mere blip in NFL history.
Moeaki = Dallas Clark?
Not sure about calling the TEs even.
by workingmansdead on Feb 2, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
I feel like this is very similiar to the debate we had about Moeaki vs. Gonk/Graham.
The quarterback that’s throwing to you makes a ton of difference.
For example, Jacob Tamme looked like a stud last year with Manning throwing to him, Clark looked God-awful this year with Collins/Painter/Orlovsky throwing to him.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
Very true.
I really like Moeaki, and I agree that the QB makes a lot of TEs/WRs, but I’ll wait to see if Moeaki can stay on the field before I claim he is as good as Dallas Clark.
by workingmansdead on Feb 2, 2012 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
Clark has had trouble staying healthy too.
They could be good comps depending on how Moeaki’s career plays out.
Clark played 15+ games in 5 out of 6
years during Peyton’s heyday. When Moeaki does that, then we can talk.
by workingmansdead on Feb 2, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, looking at it now.
He did stay pretty healthy during his prime years. I thought he was injured more often.
Definately.
Our defense is better than any they ever had, and their offense is terrible without Manning. Other than the D-line, I’m not sure they have or had any position group better than ours.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Feb 2, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
The Chiefs D has potential to do what the 2007 Colts did.
Until that defense only gives up 279 YPG or finishes 3rd in the league in Total D, I’m going to side with the team that actually did that.
yeah manning agent is tom condon former chief olineman
just food for thought
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
The salve that heals all wounds?
I submit that he would more likely be the tar that holds the feathers on Pioli when they both get run out of town after the fused chicken bone in Peyton’s neck pops and we are left holding the Ricky Stanzi for president bag.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
That would put us back to Square Cassel
Which is where we would be anyway without Manning.
Nicknames I have coined:
Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'
Nope
Manning comes in and Cassel is cast adrift.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
Doutbtful
He’s only due a little over 5M this year. Not worth cutting at that price especially as an insurance policy.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
We ARE talking about the CHIEFS...right????
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
Paxil is your friend.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
This
1000 times this.
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
Druggie
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
Naw man, I'm pretty even keeled when met with good and bad.
Others OTOH might need some help staying balanced.
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
So, you give advice for something you know nothing about?
Does that make you a politician?
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
relax dude. I miss the kool-aid.
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
Pissing down my back does little to revive it.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
if it feels good, do it.
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
Does it feel like the water suddenly just got warmer?
Oh that’s right, it’s pee that makes it warmer.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
where's Bear Grylls when you need him?
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
I stopped watching that guy when I heard they actually went to stay in hotels at night.
…or so was the rumor I heard on the radio.
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
i only know of him through imgur
but that is weaksauce for sure
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
Bear Grylls stays in hotels?
Better drink my own piss.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
Aiken man
hurry up and get a scrip for Prozac already. Your pendulum is damn near orbital. From kool-aid to tearing the ass of your brethren? C’mon man.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Feb 2, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Does Prozac treat bi-polar disorder?
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
I thought it treated werewolf syndrome or is that Propecia
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
I thought it was Coors Light.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
Well, we can certainly see who the Romeo lovers are here.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
So now when I defend my comments
all I get credit for is ‘tearing the ass of my brethren’? Jeez, I guess it really is time for me to go.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
You’re the Kool-aid man. You’ve built this persona whether you care to admit it or not… and yet, you’ve been moping around here since Haley got fired. Your comments tonight, for whatever reason have taken a tone of self-pitty that completely flies in the face of several years of your effort. I don’t want to sound condescending, but this is a blog. About a game. And like it or not, you’re one of the brighter side voices on this blog. So live up to your reputation and illustrate the silver lining in the best fashion that you can. I’ve been telling you for weeks that there is a hell of a lot to be optimistic about where this team is concerned. You want to be a writer or a politician or anything for the sake of the public then you’re going to take criticism because you can’t please everyone. If you get criticized for being a pollyanna then fuck’m. Go on and do your thing. I’ve been around here long enough to know that you have a helluva lot more people who agree with your take than not.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Feb 2, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
THANK YOU AND RAC'D
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks Buck.
Very nice words and I do appreciate it. Would that it were.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
You're welcome
nods/smiles
I mean it
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
peyton's doctor also told him that if he were his son
he’d tell him to continue to play
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 2, 2012 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
Not stated:
The doctor actually hates his son.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
by Tarkus on Feb 2, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
PLease, I beseech thee,
do not help me.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
Everybody has a price...right?
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
Eh??
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
Let me s-p-e-l-l it out for you...arbitration and then agreement on a % to settle his contract
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
Oh. So you think this makes any difference to, let's see, anything
that has been discussed in this thread? Obtuse sounds funny for a reason.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
We miss your posts aiken, that way we have something to talk about without having to read a bunch of unintelligible diatribe.We miss that.
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
No, you just miss the opportunity to make hay
at my expense. I’m tired of spending the time writing heartfelt articles that do nothing more than create a target for lurkers. I love the Chiefs yet my stuff continually draws nothing but scorn and undeserved vitriol for my efforts.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
i don't really care what others think around here.
i personally enjoyed your articles. pretty sure you’ve had some recs from me.
i don’t always agree, but i love the spirit and enthusiasm.
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
I appreciate the recs
and your words. I do take responses personal. This is a Chiefs blog. Being painted as mentally unstable for disagreeing with the current regime’s decisions goes beyond the pale in my opinion. I am pretty sure it was done in a joking way, but blog responses don’t come with disclaimers.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
truce then
go chiefs
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
Ok.
Go Cassel
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
Aiken
What is it that you’re looking for?
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
My keys
I need to go get some prozac.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
read my last comment to you
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
Absolutely nothing...
I guess I found it.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
Eh, you take it too personal
I told you once that you were better off not reading the replies. Just write and don’t reply.
Do you think other writers really pay attention to the responses from readers? If they did, they wouldn’t get much sleep. Case in point Whitlock or Keitz, on the radio.
People just see you get riled up and keep going.
It’s all good, just let it go.
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
Write and don't read the replies?
That’s like telling an alcoholic not to drink. ALL writers pay attention to responses. The responses are the REASON we write. We want to know what others think. We don’t, however, like to be attacked and painted as inconsequential in the discussion because of our point of view. Whitlock has made an art out of having that done but I will bet you that he wishes he was loved by his readership rather than thought of as a freak. Crying on Nick Wrights interview when he left KC was real but not for the reason that most think.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
Really?
ALL writers pay attention to responses.
Not true. Ask Chris Chase on yahoo or Whitlock (as a few examples of criticized writers). Whitlock’s even said he doesn’t care about responses to his article.
but I will bet you that he wishes he was loved by his readership rather than thought of as a freak.
Speculation. He also could realize that the way his readers react is why he makes all his money.
Crying on Nick Wrights interview when he left KC was real but not for the reason that most think.
Because you have the inside scoop directly from Whitlock.
Puh-leez, you’re assumming all writers think the way you do.. The difference is you wrote the above like it’s factual instead of just taking personal responsibility and saying it’s how you feel.
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
Ok. As usual, you are right
and trivialize my points. Thanks. I wish you the best.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
You too man. Get some sleep, it's late and a long offseason. Winning will cure all the negativity on AP.
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
No, no.
The negativity on AP will never stop. Even with a Super Bowl win. There will always be those who disagree with how it was done.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
you're right on this one
that’s people for you!
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
this is how the world works
you can’t save everyone.
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 2, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
I've been called a Simmons-wannabe hack
A pusher of fluff pieces, a hater, and a Kool-Aid drinker who must not even watch the Chiefs.
It’s good times, let me tell you :)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
don't forget fence-sitting dandy...
and the most vile of all…
lawyer
First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...
Charter Member of Chief Fans for Neck Beards...Viva La Orton
Haha I forgot about those two
I don’t know how I missed them
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Peyton definitely seems like the guy that would buy off his doctors.
Please…
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 2, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah,
rich people NEVER do that because they don’t have to….
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
I can say with some certainty that manning does not fit that scum mold you just described..
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 2, 2012 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, because he is Mr. Football and everything.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
and you're Mr. Party Pooper and everything.
What happened to you?
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 2, 2012 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
Chiefs football is over
Stay tuned.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
His man-crush got fired.
"The Chiefs are in great hands with Romeo and Scott and I wish them nothing but the best." - Bill Muir
And his bane
follows him more closely than ever.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
Which one?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Aiken = Haley
Men are usually attracted to other men that are most like themselves. Gay men have shown us this.
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 2, 2012 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds as though you speak from experience.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
me ungay
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 2, 2012 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
Ok. It's just that when someone makes comparisons
with authority, they normally would like to be held as credible. Now that we know you will make those kind of accusations without any credible source we can discount what you say accordingly.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
I accused you of nothing.
Discount away Mr. Aiken.
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 2, 2012 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
No?
Aiken=Haley is non accusational?
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
Why accuse the guilty?
:)
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 2, 2012 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks.
I wish you the best.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
He only talks roses during the season when the topic is the Chiefs going on a 4 game losing streak.
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
There ya go. Intelligent conversation escapes you as usual.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
LOL....Aiken getting personal.Love it. Keep up the great work during the season, you're bound to get it right once.
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
At least that beats your record.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
by Aiken_Drum on Feb 2, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Awesome comeback!!!! The more you write during the seasoon the more we have to discuss in the thread.
You rule! You know kind of like King Carl rules, except he occasionally got it right.
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
Joe Montanna and Marcus Allen.
What else?
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
Jared Allen, TG, Waters (hell the HOF line he was on, IMO), Holmes, Okoye,Word.....etc.
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
Well, if you want to get picky...
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
I doubt his risk for injuring the neck where it's fused...
is probably no higher than tearing an ACL or getting any other injury. A bulged disc, which is what started this whole mess for him is easy to do. I have one causing me the same issues he had and I just woke up with it one morning.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Feb 2, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
Did you have surgery on that disc?
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
Not yet...still in the process
will probably have another steroid/cortisone shot next week. If that doesn’t cure it, then surgery. I do know a few people that have had the procedure done though. They say all is well, but they’re not playing in the NFL either.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Feb 2, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
I know someone
up close and personal that had that procedure and they tell me that NOTHING is the same ever again. I guess it’s all about the degree of damage done.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
I had a discectomy in my lower back
between L4 and L5 and I’d also say no, it’s not the same. On the other side though, folks tell me the neck procedure is a piece of cake. shrug
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Feb 2, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
Who knows? The whole thing is as individual as fingerprints, seemingly.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
I just thought of a reason he would NOT want to come to KC
Von Miller two times a year
For constantly playing Palko, Haley needs to be fired
Peyton!! Peyton!! Peyton!!! Come on pussies pull the trigger!!! Manning to the Chiefs would be fuckin incredible!!! Tired of waiting for a real qb!! The time is now!! The time is perfect!! Makes perfect sense!!! I’m tired of hearing oh we will lose draft picks, oh he’s only gonna play 3-4 years, so!!!! In those 3 years I guarantee we will go to the Super Bowl!! N I guarantee it would be the most exciting times in Chiefs history!! It’s time to be bold n make a serious move!! Stop fooling Chiefs nation and go after manning!
by Chiefsallday25 on Feb 2, 2012 9:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions
It's a well written article Matt.
I’m going to give you credit for this one because I have been quite harsh on some of your previous articles.
I don’t think Manning would come to KC but if he did I would be ecstatic. Regardless of what anyone says about Brady, Rogers, Marino or even Elway, I will always hold fast to my opinion that Peyton Manning was/is the best QB to ever play the position. The numbers may not back it up, but no one changed a game or ran a consistent offense like he did. Not to mention the very average talent around him.
I do think the Chiefs make a good fit for a guy in Peyton's situation
we have the money. We have the talent. We may very well go into the season with protection problems, but if the Colts cut him lose, I’d say we have as good a chance as any other team.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
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AFC West could be the easiest in the NFL to win. Once you’re in the tournament, anything can happen.
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Absolutely
Another advantage. We’re the only team in the AFC West with an unsettled QB situation and we still damn near took it.
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Nfl network
Manning is done , pipe dream, I had surgery they hit a nerve , that was eight years ago still do not have full movement ! Any way nfl network reporting g that Scott and Romeo will have open qb competition for starting qb ! Maybe no Matt after all?
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by beano58 on Feb 2, 2012 10:20 PM CST via mobile reply actions
you also did not have the best doctors in the world monitoring you and available 24/7
just sayin
There are no stupid questions just stupid people
interesting beano58
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
clark knows the stadium would be full if manning came to kc
instead of taking 2 brinks trucks to the bank clark would take 4 brinks trucks to the bank with manning
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
Its IDEAL...
I really think the only teams that make sense is KC and SF….and honestly, i dont know if SF will pull the trigger when they just went to the NFC Championship with Alex Smith and no weapons….I dont think they are looking to upgrade the QB position, they are looking to get some better WRs…NFC also means he may have to face Eli in the playoffs….
AFC East is out…he only has about 2-4 years left….he wants the easiest path to the playoffs each year. Being in a division with the Pats and Jets is NOT an easy path…he wants a Super Bowl before he retires, so he should want to lean towards a division that is unsettled …AFC West is THAT division…Denver just won it with an 8-8 record…..
Ive heard others ay Washington…no way…thats the same division as Eli…mark my words, the only way Eli and Peyton want to face eachother is in a Super Bowl…THAT would be AMAZING…
Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli need to IMPRESS me in 2012....No Settling this year Chiefs Fans!!
If he came to KC, with the weapons we have on the roster RIGHT NOW
he would bring us at least 4-5 more wins a season…11-5 or 12-4 could EASILY win the AFC West.
Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli need to IMPRESS me in 2012....No Settling this year Chiefs Fans!!
I can almost guarantee that 12-4 would win the AFC West next year.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
SD is still VERY dangerous...
they shoot themselves in the foot most years, but, whether we like to admit it or not, Rivers and those recievers are STILL pretty badass….
Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli need to IMPRESS me in 2012....No Settling this year Chiefs Fans!!
super run not since montana
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
romeo is probably the only DC who gave manning fits when romeo was with NE
I think manning would respect romeo enough to consider coming to kc
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
so your tellin me theres a chance
make a trade Pioli, Peyton please be healthy, so we can get Luck
One move changes all of that. Short of Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning is the prize of the off-season. This story is even overshadowing the Super Bowl of all things. This is the big fish. If the Chiefs were to get him, they instantly become not only the favorites in the AFC West but guaranteed of several prime time games. The reality is that not only would they instantly sell a million of anything remotely team-related, but any and all ill feelings would dissipate immediately. A PR nightmare needs a salve that heals all wounds. Peyton is that salve
In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti
by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Feb 3, 2012 3:28 AM CST reply actions
How might Peyton narrow down his choices?
AFC or NFC… I think he’d choose AFC. NFC is Eli’s competition and Peyton knows the AFC well already.
Division… Would help to be a relatively weak division, one he could win every year: AFC West or AFC South. Would Manning go to a division rival? I think he respects Indy fans and the Colts as an organization too much. AFC West it is.
Chargers – Rivers
Broncos – Possibility. Team on the rise.
Chiefs – Possibility. Lots of cap room.
Raiders – Ha. Haha. Hahahaha. Probably not. Plus they’re stuck with Palmer.
I’d say the Chiefs are probably pretty appealing.
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