Arrowheadlines: Chiefs News 2/18
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Feb 18, 2012 6:53 AM CST
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PrintGood morning! There is surprisingly quite a bit of Kansas City Chiefs news today. We have FA reviews, more thoughts on the Bowe/Carr situation, and an old friend will be trying to make chicken salad with T.O. Enjoy.
Question: Why is it always somebody else's players, or some other team that has the stars? When free agency rolls around, usually it's about the free agent in Pittsburgh, New England, or the guy in Green Bay. The sought-after free agents have seldom been in Kansas City, but the Chiefs have two of the top free-agents.
Still, management isn't sure on Bowe and Carr. It doesn't make sense; Kansas City finally has players worth keeping.
If Pioli wanted Bowe and Carr, few could keep Kansas City from them. Let me repeat, the Chiefs are $63 million under the cap. That's a lot of coin.
Chiefs Need To Move On Bowe, Carr from The Examiner
NFL free agency begins Tuesday, March 13th at 3:00 PM (CST). With the Chiefs looking to improve depth and competition across their roster, KCChiefs.com will preview 30 potential free agents in the 30 days leading up to the start of free agency. Up today is Seattle Seahawks tight end John Carlson.
30 FAs in 30 Days: John Carlson from The Mothership
NFL free agency begins Tuesday, March 13th at 3:00 PM (CST). With the Chiefs looking to improve depth and competition across their roster, KCChiefs.com will preview 30 potential free agents in the 30 days leading up to the start of free agency. Up today is New England Patriots running back BenJarvus Green-Ellis.
30 FAs In 30 Days: BenJarvus Green-Ellis from The Mothership
Barry Richardson, T, Chiefs: NFL teams are constantly searching for young talent at the offensive tackle position, something that should have worked in the favor of the 25-year-old Richardson, whose rookie contract is up.
Unfortunately for him, there's not a huge market for overmatched young tackles, and that's what Richardson has shown himself to be. He did start all 16 games for Kansas City for the second straight season, but that says more about K.C.'s lack of line depth than Richardson's ability.
Contract Killers: Which Pending Free Agents Hurt Their Causes In 2011? from Sports Illustrated
For the Bears, their greatest need is getting Jay Cutler some help at the wide receiver position. With guys like Dwayne Bowe, Marques Colston, Vincent Jackson and Stevie Johnson on the open market, it's imperative that Chicago looks that direction when addressing the receiver position.
Prisco believes the best match for the Bears is Kansas City's Bowe.
Prisco: Bowe/Chicago A Perfect Match from CSN Chicago
Cons:
Matt Cassel's status as a Super Bowl caliber quarterback isn't certain. However, the Chiefs have invested heavily in him, too heavily for him to be a backup. If the Chiefs bring in Manning, Cassel is almost certain to leave. The Chiefs could be giving up a long-term quarterback who is good enough to make them tick for a short-term shot at glory that is far from guaranteed.Verdict:
Cassel hasn't done enough to be guaranteed his starting position, at his best of times he was safe but not a game-changer. Bringing in Manning would be a smart decision if this franchise has the ambition to compete with the best in the game.Peyton Manning: What Next For The Indianapolis Colts Quarterback? from The Guardian
The media landscape is always evolving, so Michigan International Speedway has hired Brad Kuhbander as manager of Media Relations to focus on assisting journalists in their knowledge and coverage of the racetrack and its events.
Kuhbander comes to MIS from the NFL's Kansas City Chiefs. He spent the past 11 years in the Public Relations Department, most recently working as the manager of football information. While there, he was the club's primary liaison between the players and media.
Kuhbander Joins Mis' Communications Department from Paddock Talk
Which leads us to how much Green-Ellis is worth to the Pats compared to other teams. The Kansas City Chiefs are running a "30 free agents in 30 days" feature, and Green-Ellis is Friday's player.
So why would they be interested?
They've got Jamaal Charles and Dexter McCluster locked up for next season. Assuming Charles is healthy (he tore his ACL last season), he'll be their top back. But the Cheifs still need a power back like Green-Ellis to balance the ying-yang of the running back position.
Green-Ellis Could Be Attractive To Chiefs from CSNNE
Casey Printers has found a place to play football.
The former CFL quarterback will be playing alongside Terrell Owens for the Allen Wranglers in the upcoming season of the Indoor Football League.
Printers signed a deal with the Wranglers on February 3.
Former CFL QB Printers Joins T.O. In Indoor Football League from TSN
During his senior season Jenkins received a knee injury which at first was believed to be a bad bruise. He continued playing and was drafted in 1969 by the Kansas City Chiefs. He reported to their training camp at Liberty College, Mo. to find himself surrounded by football legends such as Len Dawson, Emmitt Thomas, Otis Taylor and Mike Garrett.
"Here I was, a country boy from DeFuniak Springs In the middle of these great players," Jenkins said. "Then I realized they put their pants on the same as I do."
Defuniak Springs Man Discusses Days Of Gridiron Glory from The Defuniak Herald
The Wheaton College Line Camp provides excellent instruction in the fundamentals of offensive and defensive line play. Campers will also have the opportunity to be physically tested in several areas in order to help evaluate physical potential and set realistic goals. Head Football Coach Mike Swider, Assistant Coach Jeffrey Peltz and Kansas City Chiefs Outside Linebacker Andy Studebaker will coach this one-day camp designed for 10th-12th grade boys.
Summer Camps And Programs Offered At Wheaton College from The Chicago Tribune
The Cincinnati Bengals are next to host former Oakland cornerback Stanford Routt, a player in whom the Kansas City Chiefs are also interested.
The Bengals might have gotten a boost in their pursuit of Routt on Friday with the hiring of former Oakland head coach Hue Jackson as a defensive-backs and special-teams assistant.
Chiefs' Chances Of Landing Routt Dented? from ESPN
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Studie is Mike Carey's twin...
well…except for one small thing.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Feb 18, 2012 7:17 AM CST reply actions
Need to be a contender not a pretender?
They have no excuses what so ever to go out and spend money to up grade this team.every year we hear the same old story.they are off to a bad start already if they dont give cassel a threat at his position.if were doing things the patriot way then you take chances,if it doesnt work then get rid of them.
"If the Chiefs bring in Manning, Cassel is almost certain to leave."
Works for me.
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
by Scott B. on Feb 18, 2012 7:40 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
I'll help both pack their bags
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Feb 18, 2012 7:42 AM CST up reply actions
You could do a lot worse at backup quarterback than Matt Cassel.
But, despite his limitations, he’s earned the right to go somewhere else to start if we replace him. Plus, we drafted Stanzi to at least be the backup of the future. That’s going to have to start at some point.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
Cassel isn't all that bad?
He’s definitely in the bottom quarter in the league in my opinion. Can’t go through his progressions, accuracy and arm strength suck, and has poor pocket presence. I will give him one thing though, he tries hard, he has heart
that's two things!
he tries hard
2. he has heart!
See, look at multiple qualities of Matt Cassel!
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
by neiowakcfan on Feb 18, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
Is that what I said? I said we could do far worse at backup and he's earned the right to take another starting job if he can get one.
Neither of those things are mutually exclusive to anything you said.
He’s definitely a below average, bottom half of the league starting QB. But yeah, there are far worse backups out there than Matt Cassel. In fact, he’d be a top 5 backup quarterback in the NFL next year.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
True: the Chiefs could do worse at backup QB than Cassel.
But Cassel isn’t getting paid backup money. He either starts next season or he’s gone.
*Aw come on. Don't leave your Uncle T-Bag hanging. - Dr. Funke
*When we blitz, have the LB's do a KC Strip. Do this in remembrance of DT.
*Dear David Glass, as a lifelong Royals fan, I beg you to please sell the team. You have always been the problem; you will never be the solution.
63 mill to spend and bowe and carr not signed yet
i think the chiefs are waiting for the big domino in manning to get released, then bowe and carr get signed. My wild card is brees might see the open market, but will be franchized but available for 2 first rd picks
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Feb 18, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
too soon?
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Feb 18, 2012 7:43 AM CST reply actions 6 recs
Tooooo funny
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Feb 18, 2012 8:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
just right
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
just wrong
What’s funny about dead people?
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
Zombies have been known to bring a few chuckles.
I offer up “Shaun of the Dead”, and “Zombieland” as examples. Stupid zombies.
"There will be increased competition at every position, including the quarterback position".-Scott Pioli
Sheen is still alive...
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 18, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
I still can't believe it was Whitney Houston who beat Bobby Brown to death.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
perhaps she should have!
then she might still be alive.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
by neiowakcfan on Feb 18, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
It's not HIS fault.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
by ArrowSpread on Feb 18, 2012 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
Management isn't sure on Bowe and Carr?
Where did the Examiner dig up that nugget of crap? Manning should be sought after if healthy.
Dx3: Draft David DeCastro
It's either 1 of 2 things
1. Crappy speculation just to fill out a blog/news update
2. they – Clark & Co, are letting this to be said about Bowe and Carr in order to see what they get offered. Ie trade partners
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Feb 18, 2012 8:12 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Me, I go for the "crappy speculation" angle.
What else will the small-town newspaperman write about?
re-sign: to renew a contract for a period of time
resign: to terminate a contract or agreement, "to quit"
by go_saleaumua on Feb 18, 2012 8:35 AM CST up reply actions
Barry
Over the 2011 season, Richardson was flagged for nine penalties, gave up eight sacks and allowed an astronomical 36 quarterback pressures.
This is what ticks i think me off most about Pioli. Wasn’t like we didn’t know he sucked before 2011.
To be fair, they weren't alone.
Hindsight is 20/20. Most (though certainly not all) of us, had Barry Richardson on our “would like to upgrade, but don’t necessarily need to” list last off-season. We were all bitching about ESPN mocking offensive tackles to us in the first round (again). The prevailing wisdom was that Richardson was raw but had improved over the course of the season, and should be given the chance to compete for the starting job.
When the Chiefs didn’t draft a late round tackle, we were all a little surprised, but nobody was outraged.
The truth is, most of us didn’t think Richardson would be nearly as bad as he was.
The difference between us and the Chiefs is, we don’t get paid to make those kind of evaluations professionally.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
Last year they left Moeaki
On his side to help him block…I’m not sure they thought he was an all pro tackle but figured they could have the same results with Moeaki there.
Arrowhead Pride addict
by groundedchevy on Feb 18, 2012 11:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Actually he looked pretty good in 2010
Not great, but not this bad either. It was his first year starting too, so plenty thought he had the upside to get better.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 18, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
So UK Guaradian thinks Manning should go to KC?
works for me.
What makes people think that manning would even consider the chiefs?
Does anybody actually think the chiefs would go after Manning if available,when they wont even spend the money for other top notch free agents to up grade this team.they say what we want them to say,and then at the end its the same old story,well we made a attempt.if they dont keep Bowe then their pretty dam stupid.
Because...
There are only a few teams Manning could go to, be guaranteed to start, and have a realistic shot at winning. And we’re one of those teams.
I doubt he’ll come here either. But…you never know.
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
I'm in a wait and see mode (like I got a choice)
I’m just going to idle in neutral, think about the draft and hope Clark and Pioli don’t F this deal up. Personally if they don’t signboth Bowe and Carr, plus bring in some other solid help via free agency, then I’ll know what time it is and just consider the Chiefs to be like the Royals, willful also rans.
sigh
Discard all the good in three seasons for one-two possible bad
And the whole team are “also rans”. Now that is impressive
I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.
by RememberDelaney37 on Feb 18, 2012 10:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Tamba Hali, DJ, Charles, Flowers
All four of those were top notch free agents they signed…Cassel got paid like a top notch free agent…
Arrowhead Pride addict
by groundedchevy on Feb 18, 2012 11:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
yes they will, i think manning is the domino to start everything for kc sign him then bowe and carr to follow
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Feb 18, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Resign players
Bowe, Carr, and McClain. Sign Manning, Grubbs. Trade down wIth Bengals for their 2 first round picks. Draft Martin/Adams with #17 for RT. Hightower at #21 for ILB. Or Allen at TE.
Holes filled: WR CB LG RT ILB/ TE. I would probably go TE over ILB, that would give Manning and Daboll one more offensive weapon in 2 TE Sets with Moekai and Allen which is better than Pope and Becht or O’Connell. Draft rest for depth.
by DizzyKC on Feb 18, 2012 8:47 AM CST via mobile reply actions
OK
I’ll buy into that and since it’s Sat, I’m going to give you Pioli’s job. If you could make that scenario work then I’m sure you’re the man for the job!
Plus, I’m not being sarcastic.
Far too many questions about Mannings injury to feel good about that hire.
Carr and Bowe are being dangled to see what the market will bear. One of them can be franchised if needed and the other could be given a big enough contract to keep if Pioli desires. I think that this draft/free agency is going to define his success in KC. If he hits a home run and we become regular contenders for playoff spots for the next 2-3 years, he’ll be here for a long time. If, on the other hand, he swings and misses and gets a little too cute with and loses an established player without finding something very very good in return, Clark may begin the shopping process for yet another GM. This is why I think we have just about as much chance at success as failure at this point. If it all goes bad, we will be looking a lot more like Cleveland than anybody in red and yellow would like.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
I agree
But the draft may disappoint some if he does (what I think is a smart move) and trades down to get more picks. If we can come out of the first two or three rounds with four or five picks due to maneuvering, I think it would be huge for us. Give me a bunch of Justin Houston’s who weren’t first round guys but can perform right away. Better than going hit or miss on an OT.
double agree
hear more about it every couple of days … the only “good” things are from Manning (go figure, huh!) but even then it’s what he wants people to hear, so teams think what he wants them to think … no thank you
I think we need to keep both Carr and Bowe (along with McClain) … I also think we can do VERY well with Orton at QB
in FA … Soliai at NT would be huge (duh, he’s NT so of course he’s “huge”) and while Nicks is droolworthy, I doubt we land him … DeCastro, Sanders, Allen in the Draft and best wishes in rounds 4-7 and we should be good to go for many, many years
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I'm with you
I think we can go far with Orton. He was here a few weeks and his teammates sung his praises like they never have with Cassel. I have faith in his ability to take this offense to another level and even with some of his INT problems, our D won’t be giving much away at full strength.
I’m a glass half full guy and I do think this draft/FA could be the key to us making a possible SB run in the next few years.
And God yes, please to Soliai
by Steve_in_RI on Feb 18, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
Orton is a mediocrity
Just like Cassel. Neither will take this team as far as it’s talent says it should go.
With around 600 FA's there is no way (I hope) that the teams braintrust doesn't add some
much needed pieces. Maybe enough to get us to the big game. I think the team is very close now and I haven;t yet written off Cassel. It’s his job to lose, and let’s hope we actually get a good battle in preseason to let the best guy start. As for the draft, if we trade back as many suggest, I want to see a first round pick NEXT year where there are several good looking QB’s.
Was my top FA target at ILB
Middle linebacker D’Qwell Jackson will get the franchise tag if the Cleveland Browns are unable to sign him to a multiyear deal, The Plain Dealer of Cleveland reported Friday, citing a league source.
Jackson would receive $8.8 million under the franchise tag, which would nearly double his $4.5 million salary from last season.
C'mon Pioli...lock up Bowe, Carr and McClain
Am I the only one who thinks this isn’t really “news”? Reads more like regurgitated opinions and speculations…
bring on FA and the draft…
I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...
you are not at all the only one
Free Agency hasn’t even begun … no worries (yet) … now, if we get a report that either has been signed by another team, well … THEN yeah,. I’ll worry
and NO to Manning … no no no no no x a bazillion
good luck Casey Printers!
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
ups get your peyton manning jersey money ready
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Feb 18, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
sign up for manning jerseys coming soon
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Feb 18, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
how does the carry over clause work
do we have 63 million in cap because of it , or do we add to the 60 mill because of it , or something else? lol
We have the 63 million because of it.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
no, that's about where we are with the carryover from last year
ie, that’s about what we have in space now
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
So if we spend all $63 million of it (ya right) then we will be over the cap for 2013 wont we?
We would be over it by whatever the carry-over amount would be right? Its only logical to deduce that whatever we spend into that carry-over amount will come back around the following season. So the Chiefs brass have to be vigilant with our cap situation. Just because they have $63 million available this year doesn’t mean they should/will spend it all (that’s directed to all of you that will inevitabily throw Clark and Pioli under the bus when they don’t come close to that $63 million figure being thrown around)
by Chiefs08Matt on Feb 18, 2012 12:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No, you're assumiung they write level loaded contracts
Simple example, they sign Bowe for 5 years $50M total. Year 1 he gets $30M, the next four years he gets $5M per year. They get to take advantage of the cap space now and put themselves in a good position going forward. Players would love it because they’d get their coin up front. We’ll have to see how committed to winning Clark is.
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 18, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
And there seems to be a difference, cap wise, between roster bonuses and signing bonues (at least says the cap guy on the radio)
The former only impacts the cap the year it is paid, the later is spread over the life of the contract. Plenty of ways to get creative with the current situation but it first takes a commitment to winning.
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 18, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
They did the same thing with Cassels contract
Guess they could as well with Bowe and Carr and still have enough to get Orton and Soliai and cover the lesser FAs and Draft picks we will add before training camp. Still don’t see enough money for Manning in that equation. Not him and get the other FAs we need to retain and bring in.
by Chiefs08Matt on Feb 18, 2012 12:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Why not?
There’s 63M$ there. You could front load 15+ to both Bowe and Carr, sign Soliai for 6-7, sign all your picks for 4, and still have 20+M$ for Manning and other FAs.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Feb 18, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
Im afraid the bidding for Manning is going to drive his price to 20+ million alone
And given that he is 36 or however old, there’s no way to frontload a contract to him. He’d demand 20+ for 3-4 years and we still have to take into account the cap in future years and players that will need re-signed in the near future. Trust me I’d love to have Manning in a Chiefs Jersey, just don’t think its gonna happen for multiple reasons
by Chiefs08Matt on Feb 18, 2012 12:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Thats not what his camp is saying
I think he could be had for a very low base and a $1M per game starting bonus to cover concerns about his health. The dude sounds like he wants to prove the Colts wrong for writing him off. And if he’s healthy he’s worth every penny of a $20M/year contract.
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 18, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well if he can be had for around 15 mil or lower then I'd be all for it
I agree if he turns out to be the old Manning then he’d be worth that. But I don’t want to see us let young talented players go for a 3-4 year lease on Manning either. They have to be smart about it and find a way to keep Bowe and Carr and still have enough to go after some other FAs and sign their draft. We agree on this, I will just be astonished if it all happens that way
by Chiefs08Matt on Feb 18, 2012 12:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
+1
If he’s healthy Clark will fill all those empty yellow seats, every other fan will be wearing a #18 jersey and we’ll have home playoff game revenue, so he’ll get all his money back
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Feb 18, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
well said , if clark realizes the return on investment on manning
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Feb 18, 2012 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
This
And if one of those free agents really doesn’t work out then all you’ve lost is money and not cap dollars going forward.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Feb 18, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
They've got a month to lock those guys up.
We were all like this before they locked Hali up. It’ll be all good, peeps.
by bossmanham on Feb 18, 2012 9:51 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Maybe Bowe doesn't want to stay here
That’s a possibility that hasn’t been discussed. Perhaps KC is too boring for him. This is essentially a family type of town and a young guy like him may want more action and nightlife.
Just sayin’
Very possible...
I think there’s a good chance that Bowe will sign with the Chiefs. But, I think he’s going to wait and see who else calls first.
I could be wrong, though.
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
Plenty to do in KC, just have to do a little digging
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 18, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
Is that how Mac Dre died?
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 18, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
“Kansas City space. The east side is the place. They call the ghetto. Where black man is king. And he does his thing. In the ghetto.”
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 18, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Millionaires can fly to a more "happening" place easily and not live there
You Play to Win the game!!!
by Wichita Chief on Feb 18, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
doesn't seem like it would be a good idea for Bowe
he’s not what I would call a model of maturity. For him to go to a place like Miami or Chicago might be the worst thing that could happen to him. He’s got all off-season to sow his oats
I just hope Pioli doesn't try to play too cute w/ Bowe & Carr...
Or we all end up taking one to the family jewels…
Here's the thing.
With this much money available, what better year to push the envelope than this? We have so much cap room, why shouldn’t we get some high priced FA’s? Even if only for one year deals?
one year insane salary crap is stupid
if we’re going after FA’s we need to be specific about needs, target the right guys and do longer term contracts
Soliai, Nicks, Calais Campbell … the few that I’d even want, really … and doubt the last two are going anywhere
we need to re-sign ours, and hope that Soliai is on good terms with Daboll
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Des[ite the injuries I would like a Carlson pickup alot
But stag almost has me wanting Dreesen as my first choice at TE this offseason.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
On Carlson at TE
I’m not sure the Chiefs would want to sign a TE coming off a season-ending surgery to backup another TE coming off a season-ending surgery. Going into the next season with two TEs that were recently injured and haven’t played in nearly a year being backed up by either Pope or Maneri sounds like a terrible idea.
I'm going against the grain and say no to Manning.
4 procedures in one year. 4 times under the knife in one year is never an easy thing to recover from. If the Chiefs are serious about getting a QB, break the bank for Luck or RG3 (not too sold on RG3).
I’m just not sold on Manning’s health. And Irsay’s “negotiations” with Peyton is to inflate Manning’s value.
Deron Cherry for HOF :
6x Pro Bowl Selection (1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988)
Associated Press First-team All-Pro selection (x3) (1984, 1986, 1988)
Associated Press Second-team All-Pro selection (x2) (1983, 1985)
1986 NFL 101 AFC Defensive Player of the Year
NFL 1980s All-Decade Team
6yrs 100+ tackles
by Pacific Chief on Feb 18, 2012 11:59 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Absofrigginlutely.
rec’d.
Forget Manning.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
by neiowakcfan on Feb 18, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
if healthy u take manning, tired of the medicore qb spot, its been killing the chiefs for along time except for
montana, green, and gannon who marty wouldn’t play. Orton I like, but who knows what pioli will do with him
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
I would trade cassel right now if i could get a taker maybe to seattle
Matt got heart, but I don’t think he can take the chiefs to the prize
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
double typo don't know what happened
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
brees with get franchized so he will be available, benson to cheap to sign brees
2 first rd picks for brees
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
I trade 2 first rounders
in a heartbeat and then watch out for cops for fear of being arrested for highway robbery. If NO can’t get a deal done with Brees, they are dead in the water.
by ForeverRanger91 on Feb 18, 2012 1:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
benson a cheap owner for the saints, there a legit shot brees gets to FA, tagged but available
for 2 first rounders
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
Brees would fit in perfectly in KC...
Plus he’d get to stick it to San Diego twice a year while leading us past them to the Super Bowl : )
Brees thrives in pass-happy offenses. That's not really our bread and butter.
Although it would be cool to see him sticking to San Diego twice a year.
*Aw come on. Don't leave your Uncle T-Bag hanging. - Dr. Funke
*When we blitz, have the LB's do a KC Strip. Do this in remembrance of DT.
*Dear David Glass, as a lifelong Royals fan, I beg you to please sell the team. You have always been the problem; you will never be the solution.
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