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If you are not familiar with Brandon Weeden, spend some time checking out these video links:

Brandon Weeden 20+ minute Compilation

Brandon Weeden on Sportscenter

When speaking with the media, Brandon Weeden's crooked smile and composed demeanor is one of the first things I notice and like about this 6 foot 4, 220 lb quarterback, who will turn 29 in October. He looks like a gentle Roethlisberger that's not fat. But he's smart.

According to sports-reference.com, here is how Weeden has stacked up against other college quarterbacks since 2000 (rank in parenthesis):


2010 NCAA 2010 Big 12 2011 NCAA 2011 Big 12 Career NCAA Career Big 12

Pass Completions

342 (5th) 342 (3rd) 408 (2nd) 408 (1st) - 766 (9th)
Pass Attempts 511 (6th) 511 (3rd) 564 (3rd) 564 (2nd) - 1102 (14th)
Pass Completion % 66.9 (9th) 66.9 (3rd)

72.3 (5th)

72.3 (2nd) 69.5 (5th) 69.5 (3rd)
Passing Yards 4277 (3rd) 4277 (2nd) 4727 (2nd) 4727 (1st) - 9260 (8th)
Passing Yards Per Attempt - 8.4 (1st) - 8.4 (2nd) 8.4 (18th) 8.4 (4th)
Passing Touchdowns 34 (6th) 34 (3rd) 37 (4th) 37 (1st) - 75 (9th)
Passing Interceptions - 13 (2nd)

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13 (3rd) - 27 (17th)
Passing Efficiency Rating - 154.1 (1st) 159.8 (9th)

159.8 (2nd)

157.7 (12th)

157.7 (3rd)

*Top 5 bolded (27/38 are bold)

The Scenario

No one really believes that the Chiefs will move up in the draft. If we did, most have their wishful sights set on RGIII.

I'm offering a different move. A move that will cost much less than RGIII. A move that involves moving up and taking Justin Blackmon. A move that would take yet another WR in the first round. Just by the thickness of the letters you can tell how bold a move this would be. Before your hands go Parkinson's on your keyboard, allow me to explain.

Blackmon has been mocked similarly to Julio Jones last season. The Falcons moved up from the 27th pick in 2011 to snag Julio. It cost them that 27th pick, a 2011 2nd round pick, a 1st in 2012, and two 4th round selections. The Chiefs have a top 12 pick in this years draft, so I'm expecting Blackmon to cost us less than half the kings ransom that Atlanta paid. This would mean giving up a second round pick in 2013. That's believable, right?

Best case and even dreamier scenario, Blackmon drops and falls into our hands, eliminating the need to trade up at all. I have seen him mocked outside the top 10. Stranger things have happened. Either way, the most he could and should cost us is an extra 2nd round pick.

Blackmon will replace Bowe and still give the Chiefs the killer bee continuity. Waving bye to a tagged Bowe could grab us a future 1st round pick, but since this post is a completely believable scenario, we'll say Pioli settles for a 2nd (in 2012) and 3rd round pick (in 2013).

Weeden becomes our 2nd round (mid/low forties) pick in 2012. I understand there is massive risk here. Another team could slide in and steal Weeden. Then we're doomed. Not really. Allow me to introduce you to plan B,C, and D.

Orton (B), Cassel (C), and/or Stanzi (D) are still there waiting for another shot to prove to the world they can step up their play when games matter most, and most importantly win, playoff games; and very most importantly win a Super Bowl, and win them a lot.

The risk we would be taking shrinks when we look at the possible ceiling for our offense with a very skilled QB and his best/favorite weapon. That best/favorite weapon could arguably add something more, something Bowe could not. Then again, it could add less, but that is highly unlikely.

If we do draft Weeden, why not also give him a very familiar target? We would only be setting our new QB up for success.

After this, find that beef on both sides. Most importantly, pass blockers and pass rushers. Go and find another one in FA, and keep him, if he wants to be here.

I'd like to say thanks to Steve for the inspiration of this post. He cleared the smoke Weeden had been associated with before. Not really, I just wanted to say "smoke Weeden" at least once. Thanks Steve!

In all seriousness, this guy might be worth a look. The more comfortable we make our future franchise QB the better. Adding Justin Blackmon would be an enormous step in that direction.

Peyton who? RG4?

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tou, kind Sir, have lost your ever loving mind ... you DO realize that, yes?

… and no, I wouldn’t curse Pioli if he drafted Blackmon in the first … I’d send him a letterbomb or 20, but I would do so silently with no curse words whatsoever

and wreck’d for a well stated (even if totally misguided) post :-)

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by upamtn on Feb 16, 2012 8:08 PM CST reply actions  

Weeden is old and coming out of a system that hasn't produced a ton of great NFL QBs.

He wouldn’t be an awful pick but I’d rather have someone younger and with more upside (Luck, Griffin, Tannehill, Foles, Cousins, etc.) if I’m taking that risk.

Blackmon will never fall to us, so we’d have to trade up to get him. Doing so would costs us enough picks to offset whatever we got for Bowe. The end result is that we’ve traded an all-pro receiver for an unproven rookie and shifted several of our picks from this year to next year.

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by MtHammer on Feb 16, 2012 8:42 PM CST reply actions  

I forgot to mention, though, that this was a well researched and well argued post.

Good job!

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by MtHammer on Feb 16, 2012 8:47 PM CST up reply actions  

RE: Not producing alot of NFL qb's

That really held Andy Dalton back since TCU hadn’t producing any NFL qb’s besides chicken salad.

Carpe Diem

by TEXAN_CHIEF on Feb 16, 2012 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

There's a difference between the spread not producing a lot of successful quarterbacks and a school not producing a lot of successful quarterbacks.

For one, you’re dealing with vastly different sample sizes.

And, for that matter, I said the system didn’t produce many good quarterbacks, not none.

"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
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by MtHammer on Feb 16, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I know.

Hence the

I said the system didn’t produce many good quarterbacks, not none.

It is, of course, theoretically possible for a QB to come out of a spread offense in college and become a good pro. Andy Dalton is one such example.

But playing almost exclusively in the spread in college isn’t something you put down as a plus when evaluating a QB prospect. One reason for that is because it can slow down the development of the quarterback while they attempt to learn a pro style offense. That can be particularly problematic if say, purely hypothetically, your rookie quarterback is going to find himself on the wrong side of 29 pretty early on in his first season.

If I’m going to use a high draft pick on a QB, I’d prefer he be ready to play before he’s 30 or 31. Hell, if I’m going to use a high draft pick on a QB, I’d prefer he not be 30 or 31 for quite some time, frankly.

Now if Weeden slides on draft day and he’s there in the 4th or 5th, that’s one thing. But in the 1st or 2nd I’d much rather have any one of the other, younger, QBs at the top of the draft.

"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan

by MtHammer on Feb 17, 2012 1:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Blackmon may fall

He’s short and slow for the position.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 16, 2012 9:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I suppose on the Chiefs he'd be small

With Bowe 6’2" and Baldwin 8’15", but Blackmon’s 6’1", which is fine.

But yes, he’s butt-slow.

"There will be increased competition at every position, including the quarterback position".-Scott Pioli

by severn58 on Feb 17, 2012 7:01 AM CST up reply actions  

for some odd reason I thought Baldwin was taller than that

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Feb 17, 2012 8:20 AM CST up reply actions  

How is "out of a system that hasn't produced a ton of great NFL QB's" relevant?

Name another QB from Baylor or Arizona or Michigan State or Texas A&M

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by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 17, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

What? I don't follow at all.

I didn’t realize my “spread quarterbacks often have issues adjusting to the NFL” point was so controversial.

"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan

by MtHammer on Feb 17, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Tannehill SUCKS!!!!

Why do you think Mike Sherman is no longer at aTm? Lets see his qb threw 14 pics, 12 of thos pics came in aTm’s 6 losses, 5 of those losses were by a td or less…whose to blame here?

Carpe Diem

by TEXAN_CHIEF on Feb 16, 2012 8:48 PM CST reply actions  

No thanks on Blackmon

Get us a RT in the first (Martin or Adams). Then YES to Weeden in the 2nd. He’s mature and intelligent and more NFL ready than most rookie QBs. I think he’d beat out Cassel easy.

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by The Gentry on Feb 16, 2012 9:18 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

no thanks....but pass that weeden ; )

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by Masons on Feb 16, 2012 9:39 PM CST reply actions  

finally, the voice of reason!

… the OTHER voice of reason :-)

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by upamtn on Feb 16, 2012 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Well thought out and presented

but there are at least 5 QBs in this draft I would rather have. And I would also rather have Matt Cassel than Weeden.

But seriously, good research.

by Steve_in_RI on Feb 16, 2012 10:32 PM CST reply actions  

Brandon Wheedon is the most overrated player in the draft

He is another system/ spread QB that will fail in the NFL

In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti

by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Feb 17, 2012 3:13 AM CST reply actions  

I like Weeden...

but I don’t think he’s worth a number 2. And WR is DEFINITELY not even in the top 3 for PON. And I’m not even sure Blackmon would be BPA and I don’t think he’s worth trading up for. If we are trading up, it HAS to be for RG3. But I’d rather trade down and take Mike Adams and stockpile some picks.

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 17, 2012 8:03 AM CST reply actions  

Only 3 QBs worth taking in this draft

and Foles is a stretch. Take a late round flyer on my boy Darron Thomas.

Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.

by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 17, 2012 9:00 AM CST reply actions  

HIV

Thomas, is that the kid from Oregon who’s coming out early? I hear he has a skill set similar to RG#, but needs some time to ripen.. This the guy you’re talking about?

by Special K on Feb 18, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Wr...s

There is darn good talent to be had latter in the draft . I’m all for Weedon, but in the 5th, maybe 4th. I love the “he’ll fail, he’s a system qb in the spread” argument. Yeah, what you really need is a guy that doesn’t play in a system, and prefers to hand the ball off all the time.

by 12t on Feb 17, 2012 12:39 PM CST reply actions  

I'd be ok taking Weeden in like the 3rd. 2nd? Ehhhhhhh....

I absolutely hate trading up for Blackmon though.

If Weeden can’t succeed without his bestest buddy, then he has no place in the NFL. Either get acquainted with Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin and Moe real quick or kindly GTFO. If you can’t succeed with those receivers then we have no need for you.

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by Tomahawk29 on Feb 17, 2012 5:50 PM CST reply actions  

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