2012 NFL Mock Draft Sends Trent Richardson To KC
by Joel Thorman on Feb 15, 2012 3:07 PM CST
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PrintBesides offensive tackle, one of the popular selections for the Kansas City Chiefs in the various 2012 NFL mock drafts out on the web is Alabama running back Trent Richardson. If you watched college football this year, you know about Richardson.
NFL Network's Mike Mayock on Wednesday said: "I think the last guy where you banged the table this hard was Peterson when he was the 7th pick."
Whoa. That's pretty crazy, if you think about it. It's probably why Charley Casserly sent Richardson to the Chiefs with the 11th pick in his mock draft for CBS Sports.
"Too good a player to pass up -- Richardson truly boasts top-10 ability," Casserly wrote of the Chiefs pick.
Here's another mock draft that has the Chiefs picking Richardson. I can see the logic and, if he truly is one of those running backs that only comes around every few years, then I could be persuaded into taking him. That said, a running back in the top half of the first round isn't my style. (Then again, my style hasn't resulted in me getting a job as a GM so...)
Casserly's mock draft has the Chiefs selecting 11th but we won't know that for sure until next week when the coin flip is held.
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Right.
If Cassel is the QB then we’ll probably be running the ball 40 times a game. Jamaal is pretty durable, right?
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by Tomahawk29 on Feb 15, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Cause you can only get RBs in the first round?
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 15, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
You can only get ones that are freak athletes.
I would not be upset if they drafted Richardson. Dude’s a workout machine.
At 5’11" he weighs 220, can power clean over 365 pounds, has a 600 pound squat, and a bench press of 475 pounds. He also runs a 4.4 40 yard dash.
Not many later round picks or even NFL Free Agents can match his pure athleticism, which IMO, out of all other positions in football, pure athleticism is most important for a RB.
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by Tomahawk29 on Feb 15, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Its more like a 4.5
But T-Rex is an absolute beast, outside of Doug Martin you don’t find a better weight room rat.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Dude,
I just read an article, and then talked to a coworker (who saw a segment about his strength and conditioning on ESPN).
Apparently they don’t want this kid to try any higher weights because of fear of injury, but they KNOW he can lift more. The special my co worker watched said Trent is lifting these weights and it’s not at max effort – he’s hardly breaking a sweat.
I’d love to see this guy lined up next to Charles.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
by Tomahawk29 on Feb 15, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
There are plenty of people who could lift weights good
but were only ok or didn’t make it in the NFL
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006
He combines that weight room ethic
Out onto the field, its why he’s seen so highly. He’s completely devoted to his position, learning all the intricacies their in, and he hasn’t even reached his peak yet.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Very important point here
He’s not just a workout warrior. He translates those abilities into football skills. I think KC could do better in the first round, but I think I could live with the pick (assuming DeCastro is gone and KC doesn’t trade down).
In accordance with the prophecy
I am the 1%
Yeah...
the ball doesn’t really weigh that much.
But would be tacklers do
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
I'd be more concerned with his vision...
it’s going to have to be damn good to find a hole behind this line without improvement.
He's got great vision
Vision is the least of my concerns with Richardson.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
Do teams now get points for how much they can bench?
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 15, 2012 3:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just how much weight they lost...
Haley said so.
I give him points for outsquatting his entire team
Earl Campbell thighs are very useful for a running back.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Come on.
Would you really not want a fast, strong as fuck RB paired with Charles? Really?
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by Tomahawk29 on Feb 15, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I would suggest
he’s a better value at #11 than TJax was at #3.
Hands down.
In accordance with the prophecy
I am the 1%
Where were you 5 hours ago when people were railing me on this
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Sorry bro, I was working
Damn job always getting in the way of the fun shit.
In accordance with the prophecy
I am the 1%
Right? How is this even a question.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
It's not
I’m just using it as an example of determining “worth”. People said safeties should never be taken as high as Berry was for exactly the same reasons as they say to not take RBs. Berry has worked out alright, wouldn’t you say?
Bottom line, if Pioli wants a power back and chooses to take Richardson there, well, he’s “worth” it to the team and the overall concept.
I don’t know. I’m not saying that he is “the guy” we need to look for (by any means). Just saying I won’t be pissed if he’s the guy KC takes.
In accordance with the prophecy
I am the 1%
You're not applying the drafts together
That draft was terrible for every team across the board. The value was very scarce at any position. Jackson turned out well looking at what was out there.
You're using hindsight
versus something that has yet to occur. That dog won’t hunt.
I hear what you’re saying, but it’s an apples/oranges argument right now. As it stands, Trent Richardson is a better value at #11 than Tyson Jackson was at #3. Period. End of story.
3 years after this draft we can compare the two and their proven value, if you’d like.
In accordance with the prophecy
I am the 1%
For sure. But they are available for cheaper prices
6 1st round draft picks, 2 Super Bowl Champions and counting
by Another Successful Tedford QB on Feb 15, 2012 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Who?
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by Tomahawk29 on Feb 15, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Tolbert, Bush or Marshawn take your pick
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by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 15, 2012 4:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'd take any of them.
Preferably Bush.
But Richardson will still likely be the better back.
Look, there’s a lot of different ways this offseason can go. I’ll be happy as long as they get a good back to pair with Charles.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Richardson better than BeastMo?! That’s absurd…did you watch the 2nd half of last season? And did you not see the greatest playoff run of all time?
6 1st round draft picks, 2 Super Bowl Champions and counting
by Another Successful Tedford QB on Feb 15, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, Richardson has a higher ceiling then Lynch
And could be better now, that’s how highly regarded he is.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
It was a contract year for Marshawn.
If he gets paid he will sleep walk next year
Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
by nateforchiefs on Feb 15, 2012 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
Not when I can get LMJ in the 3rd
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by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 15, 2012 3:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He's not strong though
We already have 2 scat backs, now you want another?
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The whole thunder and lightening bit is so 10 years ago
I’d much rather have a rich man’s JC
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by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 15, 2012 3:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
LMJ is a poor man's JC for one
two, I don’t want thunder and lightning. I want Lightning and Boulder or something. Thunder is just a sound that doesn’t do anything.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
Lightning and Earthquake!
A rushing attack of Biblical Proportions!!!!
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
Plagues & Great floods
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
Cats and dogs living together...
Mass hysteria!!
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 16, 2012 8:44 AM CST up reply actions
LMJ > JC
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Osweiler > Foles
6 1st round draft picks, 2 Super Bowl Champions and counting
by Another Successful Tedford QB on Feb 15, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
In your dreams
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Me too
But I’d rather have Doug martin or Pead because of their usefulness on 3rd downs.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
True
But really JC and Dex are both great 3rd down backs as well. That is a three-headed bitch of a monster with Charles, Dex and LMJ. Talk about a worn-ragged defense. With a salty OL, this team could look like the Shannarat Donks…plug and play with RBs.
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3rd down as in Pass blocking and getting short yardage
I can’t say with confidence they’re very good at either.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yep he's ridiculous
He outsquats the Nose Tackle on the team Josh Chapman, and some consider him the strongest player in college football.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Richardson?
No…
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
List of the top 5 rushers in 2011
MJD 60th pick
Ray Rice 50th pick
Michael Turner 154th pick
LeSean McCoy 53rd pick
Arian Foster UDFA
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List of the top 5 rushers in 2010
Arian Foster UDFA
Jamaal Charles 73rd pick
Michael Turner 154th pick
Chris Johnson 24th pick
MJD 60th pick
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Just saying…
What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!
by KSU-Chief on Feb 15, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Why isn't AP on that list?
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by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 15, 2012 3:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Because he wasn't in the top 5 the last 2 years
by kcsno56 on Feb 15, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He was 6th in yards though...
And 5th in ypc.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
You think that invalidates his point?
His point, and everyone else’s is that you can find RB’s later…that is clearly true.
One out of 12 (if you look at the top 6 over two years) doesn’t invalidate his argument. He’s not saying highly rated RB’s NEVER are good.
I'm not arguing that.
I’m arguing that when a player like an Adrian Peterson comes along, you have to actually make it a consideration to draft him.
I’m not going to be super pissed and stomp up to Arrowhead with a torch and pitchfork if they DON’T draft Richardson. But if they did, I could see the value in it. I’d be down with picking Richardson 11th/12th in the draft.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Yes...
Your argument is you want Richardson, and you think he is AP like.
Our argument is that you don’t need to take the chance on a 1st round RB when you can easily find them later.
Nothing like a collective mob.
“You” vs. “us”.
Alright I submit. Ignore the BPA and go for a value guy. Yaayyyy.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Sorry.
Just feel like I’m getting ganged up on here because I wouldn’t be opposed to the Chiefs drafting Richardson. It’s not even that I’m calling for us to draft him. I just see him as a BPA if he’son the board and would be an awesome pair with Jamaal.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
I think that there are a vast amount of opportunities in the draft...
that are better picks at the position than Richardson.
After saying that if that is the route that we go… I’ll be interested in seeing how great he becomes.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Don't worry too much
He won’t be on the board.
This is probably true.
If everything I’ve heard about his weight room ethics are true, he’s likely to put up some crazy numbers at the combine. That alone will be fun to watch.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
You CAN find them later
Finding a back like Richardson later may not happen. It all depends on what you want in a back. You want a monster freak-a-zoid bowling ball with knives? Draft Richardson…ain’t another like him in this draft.
Content to have another really good, shifty, badass runner? Wait a few and get LMJ.
In accordance with the prophecy
I am the 1%
We can has both
:)
Hot Damn
and JC
Dex can play QB!!!
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
so at best
he’s 5.5
which still isn’t top 5 now is it!
And he was also injured for 4 games in 2011.
He was on track for 1293 yards, which would have beat out Foster and given him the 5th spot.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
You're gaining no ground on your arguement
Just let it go man. Let it go.
The point is
the last 2 years have had low draft picks at the top of the league. Proving that you don’t have to spend a 1st round draft pick on a RB. ESPECIALLY if you already have a JC.
So let's spend a first on a RT instead.
Gotcha.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Durability is one argument AGAINST picking a RB that high.
So it actually hurts your argument to point out that he missed four games due to injury. RBs have a short shelf life as it is.
Just for the sake of arguing,
Because honestly, isn’t that what AP is for?
Doesn’t the durability argument work against people saying we should go for a FA RB? Do we really want a RB that has 3-4 years (or more) of wear on them? And also with AP, he is one of the last of a dying breed of “feature backs”. Richardson, or any back we get wouldn’t be our exclusive runner. He’d split carries, thus extending the “shelf life” of both him and Jamaal. Seems to me like that is the approach nowadays BECAUSE of the RB shelf life issue.
And going back to my original point: If we are committed to Cassel being the Chiefs QB then we really will need two BADASS RBs. Not just 1 and a solid #2. If our bread and butter is ground and pound and defense, then it would be far more beneficial to keep the absolute best pair of RBs that we can.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
A FA RB wouldn't cost the team a high draft pick.
So it’s no near as risky. It’s only costing you money, of which the Chiefs have plenty.
True.
But It’s kind of funny to have people say “We shouldn’t draft a RB 11th overall! We need a RT!”.
I can just as easily say “a FA RT (haha) wouldn’t cost the team a high draft pick, so it’s not near as risky”.
See my point? How can we justify devaluing a position like RB and overvaluing a position like RT? And in all honesty how can we really justify even considering either of those positions when our QB situation is fucked? lol.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Agreed
And there are a lot of decent FA RB’s to be had…Bush, Tolbert, Blount (though he will probably stay in TB), BJGE, etc.
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 16, 2012 8:48 AM CST up reply actions
Same was said about Berry
But I think we all agree that it was a solid selection.
In accordance with the prophecy
I am the 1%
Forte played in 12 and had more yards so in the What If land
He would have had more yards. Jackson played in 10 and would have had more yards. McFadden played in 7 and would have had more yards.
So all in all he would have been 7th…
What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!
As much as I like a good semantics fight
Foster also missed 2-3 games in 2011, so….you can’t really play the “pace card” with AP and not with Foster
See what I did there?
by craig in calgary on Feb 15, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
the pace card? with AP?
/where’s that “slavery gets shit done” pic at….
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
Adrian Peterson,
A 7th overall pick and comparable player to Richardson has been a top 10 rusher since he entered the NFL.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Who cares who he compares to...
Who did Reggie Bush compare too? Every year a player is compared to a great player. How many actually play like them?
What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!
So we should just throw it all out because it's all a ruse?
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Nope...
But using it as a reason to draft him is just as bad as using all the other comparisons for other players…
What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!
Who said that was the only reason?
And besides, it honestly holds just as much water as saying we shouldn’t draft him because of guys like Moreno or Mathews.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
RG3 is compared to
Steve “Air” McNair…just saying…
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 16, 2012 8:49 AM CST up reply actions
People always us the playoffs when talking about QB's.
I will do it with starting RB’s in the 2011 playoffs.
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NYG Ahmad Bradshaw 250th
NE BenJarvus Green-Ellis UDFA
Den Willis McGahee 23rd
Bal Ray Rice 50th
Hou Arian Foster UDFA
Pit Rashard Mendenhall 23rd
Atl Michael Turner 154th pick
NO Darren Sproles 130th I will put Ingram on here 28th
Det Kevin Smith 64th
Cin Cedric Benson 4th
SF Frank Gore 65th
GB Ryan Grant UDFA
What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!
How about the average for the last 5 years?
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
Gotta add in Fred Jackson and Matt Forte.
They would be on the list had it not been for injuries.
Forte was a second round pick and Fred Jackson was first off undrafted, then not even signed as a UDFA.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 16, 2012 8:38 AM CST up reply actions
Wow dude can lift weights.. so cool!
Fact is, bigger biceps are bad for a RB.
He is not a great fit for a ZBS.
He is not worth a top pick when he will be a BACK UP, read again BACK UP.
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Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 15, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
It's not just his biceps.
It’s his overall strength. Stronger legs make him harder to bring down. Stronger arms allow him to break tackles. Strength and speed are huge assets for RBs. It would make sense to consider the strongest, fastest one you can get.
Explain how he’s not a good fit for a ZBS? I don’t follow you there.
We’ll be glad to have a 3 Down BACK UP if Charles goes down again, or if Charles isn’t 100% next year.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Yep, more to it then his upper body
He’s got Earl Campbell thunder thighs. Those are extremely useful for any running back.
And he’s got great burst and vision which is something you have to have for a ZBS back, plus we’re probably moving to more of a man scheme so I don’t see how that argument holds water.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 6:06 PM CST up reply actions
We're probably going to move up and draft Luck
Look at that.. no info+probably=nothing
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 15, 2012 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
That has nothing to do with anything
Bicknell = Man/Power Schemes
Daboll = Man/Power Schemes
Bicknell + Daboll = Most likely a move to a man/power scheme. With elements of the ZBS still used to accommodate our players in the switch.
But sure, that’s the same thing as us trading up for Andrew Luck based on nothing. Gotcha.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
This is a good point.
I’m curious to see how the offense changes with a new OC in place, and Haley gone.
Romeo likely doesn’t want to get into the nitty gritty of offensive blocking schemes and all that. That’s why he brought on Daboll.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Pioli has said that OL will be a focus of his this offseason
As well it should, and depending on where we go could dictate the types of schemes and
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
We all know that
I am sick of hearing that on every thread
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
Which part?
That OL will be a focus or that Daboll bases his schemes around his players?
Either way, you should expect it in every thread.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
I answered the OL will be a focus
below
I am happy now :)
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
schemes we use.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
Can't see the switch to a man/power scheme after Asamoah/Hudson
Yes Asamoah looks like he could work, Hudson not so much. Maybe down the road yes, but until there is word coming out saying that we are switching.. then its nothing
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 16, 2012 5:57 AM CST up reply actions
I singled out biceps for that reason alone but nice twist
He is not a good ZBS, not a great cutter nor is he really explosive. That Oline(one thing almost everyone fails to mention.. ya know that made Ingram into a Heisman RB? Or that makes Lacy look damn good?) gives him plenty of space to build up speed and huge holes to run though.l
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Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 15, 2012 6:31 PM CST up reply actions
No twist.
I originally pointed out his overall strength as being an asset, so that includes the whole package.
I saw your comment yesterday about bigger biceps causing more fumbles. How many times has Richardson fumbled in college? I couldn’t find that number, but I did find that he’s only lost one fumble his entire career of 586 touches. and that lost fumble was 522 touches ago. So he’s either damn lucky that his team recovers, or he doesn’t put the ball on the ground a lot. Which would kind of go against your “bigger biceps = more fumbles” stance… same with Thomas Jones.
And I’ve seen this guy break a ton of tackles when I did watch a Bama game. The OL is good, no doubt, but you can see how his strength equates to good play, and him making some of his own yards. It’s hard to bring him down with the first and sometimes even second tackler, and he shows a tendency to fall forward, gaining extra yards… even if there is a pile of guys hanging on him.
When there’s a hole, yeah, he bursts through it and outruns most defenders. When there’s not a hole, he exhibits the ability to take what he can get by breaking tackles and churning forward.
So suppose he came to KC. How would this guy not be a perfect “power back” to complement Charles? And, to sweeten the deal, if there IS a hole that our line creates, he shows the ability to make good use of it. I’m just not seeing the negatives that you’re trying to point out with him.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
he is a very different RB than our primary RB?
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
Is that a bad thing?
We already have a pure speed/shifty back in Jamaal. We really need a solid back that can gain the tough yards when need be. If that’s what we’re in the market for, and Cassel is without a doubt going to be our QB, then I say, hell yeah, go get a young, quick, strong as fuck RB and pair him up with Jamaal.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Does he do all the things Jamaal can do?
Gain the edge, catch in the flats
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
Yes and more
His pass blocking is about a thousand times better, he might actually be more dangerous catching the football then running it because of his vision, and he has the speed to get to the edge if needed.
He’s not somebody who can take it to the house whenever he touches the ball, but he has good enough speed for the position.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
Watch the highlights and judge for yourself:
It looks to me like he’s a pretty good pass catching back, and really excels on getting to the edge and cutting up field.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Sweet cuts man
Watch this sports science video on Trent at 30 seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyyO-_ndYts
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
He also never fumbles, EVER
One fumble his entire career, that biceps argument has to be the silliest thing I’ve ever heard.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
How could he not be on Pioli's Big Board
He was the one that brought in Jones, cause he never fumbles.
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
He's also a level headed family man.
Richardson’s work ethic doesn’t come from a narcissistic quest to win individual awards and accolades. It comes from a burning desire to escape what he and his family left behind. More than anything else, Richardson said he is determined that his two young daughters won’t endure the same daily struggles he had while growing up with in a housing project in Pensacola, Fla.
“I want them to grow up better than I grew up,” Richardson said.
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SEC, Team Captain
an actual need as opposed to Offensive Guard
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:32 PM CST up reply actions
So your opinion is that OG isn’t a need right now. How much do you say Lilja has left in the tank?
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At 30 years old?
At least another 3 years, easy.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Declined.
But I find it hard to believe that a guy who in 2010 was touted by many as our best O Lineman is about to find his way to the unemployment line.
How much of his apparent decline came from declining center play? How much of it came from switching to the opposite side? How much from Charles being gone? How much from shitty QBs? I just find it unlikely that Lilja won’t bounce back from last year.
And yeah, OG is kind of far down on my shit list.
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30
for someone who is undersized, and with a history back problems, is older than most 30 year old players. I think they can get another year out of him, but they need to address the position either way.
This is a valid point.
But given Pioli’s track record, I just don’t see him drafting a guard at 11/12.
He’s shown that stop gapping and replacing with a later round guy (Asamoah, Hudson) is his plan of attack. And I’m 100% ok with that, as long as it’s an ongoing process EVERY year (we draft and develop a 2/3/4 round guy every year). Beef factory.
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mine is less about Lilja
As DeCastro is probably a better lineman than the Tackle prospects
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
I would say O-line
is a higher need in the draft than RB. Lotso RB’s to be had in FA. Not a lot of quality RT in FA. Grubbs or Nicks as G, but I think Nicks will stay in NO.
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 16, 2012 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
Does it want to make you want to trade up with Minnesota?
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
Not for a RB, no. QB is all I'd want to trade up for.
If he’s there at 11/12, hell yeah, grab him.
Unfortunately I don’t think he’ll be around when we pick.
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Cleveland seems to need both RGIII
and Richardson.
They will take one
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
Now is it actual fumbles, or fumbles lost?
Because the only stat I could find was fumbles lost.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
I think actual fumbles its only one as well, but it may be two IIRC
Im a Bama fan, so I have seen plenty of tape of this kid. He just does NOT put the ball on the ground, holds the ball perfectly and his strong arms are like a vice grip around it.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions
I noticed that for the first 10 or so yards past the LoS,
Where the most contact is to be had, he does two things:
1, he hold the ball high, which is a good fundamental to avoid fumbling.
2, he uses both hands when he needs to.
He doesn’t start carrying it low until he gets in open field, and at full speed. Very good fundamentals for a RB to avoid fumbling.
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I like that as well
Great technique, and if you fumble you will not play for Nick Saban bottom line.
My gramps is hilarious because he’ll yell at the TV when a RB gets sloppy and starts holding the ball like its a loaf of bread. Not a peep from him when Richardson is running.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
I particularly liked this catch out in the flat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWnIa7O1zAo
Minimal effort to absolutely ROCK that first “tackler”.
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He's a great cutter(I've seen him cut at 90 degree angles) and very explosive
Don’t really know what you’re talking about to be honest, and what a RB in a ZBS needs more then anything is vision and Richardson has that in spades.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 6:52 PM CST up reply actions
SO Power or ZBS?
Does Charles work in a Power scheme
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
I expect us to run both schemes, more ZBS-type stuff with JC
Really it all depends on what we do this offseason, but I expect something similar to what the Dolphins did last year line-wise.
Power blocking on the move, like our OL in the early 00s.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
I am worried that someone will not stay on the players to stay in shape
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
Which would make the PBS even more useful, I'd think
If they don’t stay in shape with a ZBS, our entire offense will fall into shambles.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
Fat, Lazy, and Happy is what got us in this mess the 1st time
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think we'll go back to that
Herm detonated our roster and with no veteran leadership or coaching leadership our players became despondent, soft fatties picking up a paycheck.
Now with guys who are solid leaders, and Crennel also being a solid leader and game planner I’m not too concerned about it. I don’t remember any reports from Cleveland that said they were a bunch of fatties when Crennel came in.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
Alright.
At first I was a little intrigued with the guy. I’ve spent the last hour or two looking at his clips, stats, and reading articles on him. Now I’m sold. Not so much that I demand this guy should be the pick, but I would see absolutely NO problem taking him at 11/12, and would applaud it.
This guy runs HARD and is difficult to bring down. He loos like a man among boys in a lot of these highlights. . I would absolutely LOVE to watch Jamaal gain 5-6 yards a pop then send this guy in to pound on teams for 3-5 yards a pop.
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who do you have now as I want picks at 11/12?
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
First and foremost IMO, we need to do everything we can to trade for RG3.
If that doesn’t happen, I’ll now put my hat in for Richardson, followed by the best OT available with our second pick.
That said, I also understand and would be content with DeCastro/Reiff/Martin/Best OL available.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
I can live with those
Luck/RGIII
Richardson
DeCastro
Best Offensive Tackle
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
I'm the same way
Although trading back is a definite option for me
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
2010
that video was shot in 2010. the dude is probably stronger now. ive advocated picking richardson for several months. you just dont see running back freaks like this in every draft.
by michaelaglover on Feb 15, 2012 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
JC can't carry the load.
Jamaal Charles is a 195 pound running back coming off a major knee injury who has never carried in ball more than 230 times in a season as a pro. If Trent Richardson falls to them he would be the best player available. Thomas Jones is at the end of his career and Jamaal Charles is coming off a serious injury. Running backs slide in the draft, but Richardson is a special talent and too good for Kansas City to pass on. In 2011, Richardson had 24 total touchdowns (21 rushing, three receiving). He also ran for 1,679 yards, averaging 5.9 yards per carry. Richardson caught 29 passes for 338 yards and three touchdowns as well.
by OJ In Nevada on Feb 15, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
If Pioli isn’t going to get one of the best OT or OG prospects at 11/12, then he will trade back with a team clamoring for Richardson
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if seahawks pick #12 and want richardson
I’m sure we can swap picks and receive another draft pick.
Picking up a 1st round
running back in QB league is like making a ham sandwich without the ham.
Richardson reminds me more of Ingram...
than he reminds of Peterson.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Probably...
When Richardson played against top teams his highlights decreased… Ingram on the other hand probably would have had a better rookie year if he wasn’t on a passing team.
I just think that saying he is the next Peterson is blowing things a little out of proportion.
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Because they both played at Alabama?
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Yup solely on school of choice...
This automatically makes them the exact same player.
If only Richardson had decided to go to Oklahoma could he even be considered for comparisons to Adrian Peterson.
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I agree with that.
To me he doesn’t look fast either, I see more power with him than speed.
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by nateforchiefs on Feb 15, 2012 6:12 PM CST up reply actions
Well at 5-11 & 225
Do you expect him to be an Olympic Sprinter?
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
Fine with it.
Addresses a need & arguably is BPA.
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by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 15, 2012 3:20 PM CST reply actions
I used to think that
And I still think it’s a little crazy….but if he’s an AP-type of dominant force for even one contract, I think you consider it. KC’s window could be best here in the next 2-3 years.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 15, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
I'd think about it if he were there
But I’m not sure I could pass up a top offensive tackle.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 15, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
For this team to be great in the next 2-3 years
They will need JC to be JC. They will need their 1st round picks to fill our huge holes that we have.
We can address RB in FA, there are several quality player available that would be relatively inexpensive.
I wouldn't hate this, he's a beast
But I’d rather trade back. There will be a lot of quality starters available in the 2nd & 3rd rounds
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
I disagree...
I think we have plenty of talent, but we lack depth. I think we can trade back and land Adams, OT, in the first round, and pick up a 2nd or 3rd to add depth to LB, RB, CB, or S.
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 16, 2012 8:54 AM CST up reply actions
I think it would be a good addition
With Charles coming off a blown knee and losing Thomas Jones it might be a good idea to add some good depth to the RB position. Even the best passing teams have a decent back. This crap about the league being only passing is ridiculous
If you aint first...you're last!!!
It appears we're commited to going against the grain of the current NFL:
Rather than having an elite QB to carry us, we’re going with the old school traditional method of run game plus defense. If we’re absolutely sold on going that route, then Richardson would be a great pick, along with some added OL starters/depth through the FA and later round picks.
If the Chiefs don’t do everything within reason to get RG3, then Richardson would be a decent pick. We’re going to be running the ball 35-40 times a game. Jamaal can’t carry that load on his own, not even close to that. Split carries with Richardson and we could trample teams.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Did I say we passed on one?
I said
Rather than having an elite QB to carry us,
and
If the Chiefs don’t do everything within reason to get RG3
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Just curious, but why does it appear we are going old school?
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by RememberDelaney37 on Feb 15, 2012 3:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This.
If they truly are committed to Cassel this is obviously their plan of attack.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Unfortunately
Run, Run, Pass, Punt does not compliment our ‘shut-down defense’ at all.
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Came close to what?
Our D is also hardly stopping the run. Pick 11….where’s the beef?
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by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 15, 2012 3:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
One way to get better is through practice
And with JC/T-Rex, it don’t get any better.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
Practice didn't help on 3rd and 1
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
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Well how can it
When you’re practicing Jones/McCluster/Battle?
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
Practicing what?
JC + 1st round olineman + Bush/Tolbert/Marshawn/LMJ > JC + Richardson
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by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 15, 2012 3:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Practicing run defense
What else would you practice against running backs.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
11th overall, 11th in scoring, 6th in passing
14th in ypc allowed. And Berry, who was an absolute monster in the run game, was out all year.
No doubt their run D has to tighten up, but this defense is close to being shut down.
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26th in rushing, just so you don't think I'm trying to short you.
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Run game needs some work
And I’d prefer RBs get tackled before they get to Urc Burry
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what if Uric Burree
Is tackling them behind the los?
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
Berry spent a lot of time attacking the LoS.
Come on man.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
That is why
I have seen Poe on a lot of draft boards coming to us. Massive, strong, 355 pound nose tackle from Memphis…
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 16, 2012 8:55 AM CST up reply actions
Did we re-hire Herm Edwards or something?
Or did Muir come out of retirement.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Im not saying thats the way we should go but if we do i dont see it as being a horrible thing. RG3 is not getting past the redskins at number 2…sorry.
If you aint first...you're last!!!
What about this scenario
Chiefs sign Stanford Routt
Tag Carr and trade him to New England who is going to take a CB anyway
Take either the 27 or 31st pick from NE and combine with our 11/12th and move into the #2 this year…..
Plausible?
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
I would still prefer to tag and trade bowe directly to the rams
and cut out the middle man
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by MarineChiefsFan on Feb 15, 2012 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
Ha, I like that
But I thought Belichick got paid on all draft transactions
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
Pretty sure they're in the same boat we are financially
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
They have a lot of room
Then again years of top picks, maybe not.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
The Pats have 20 Million
I didn’t see what the Rams had
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
Sure.
Whatever it takes, as long as it doesn’t involve JC, EB, DJ or Hali.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Cleveland has
a #4 and #23…more attractive than a #11 and #27…
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 16, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions
More likely
they need a #1 receiver…many are projecting a trade with Cleveland or Washington to move up to #2 to snag RG3, and then St Louis taking Blackmon, WR… If we give them Bowe and our #11 pick, they could fill TWO needs, probably OT.
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 16, 2012 8:57 AM CST up reply actions
But why are we assuming that is the direction we are going?
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by RememberDelaney37 on Feb 15, 2012 3:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Cassel is our QB
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Going into training camp
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
No it starts in August
And the FO has already stated he’s the starter going in.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
Per Reports:
While it doesn’t eliminate the possibility of him having competition, I think we’re probably looking at Matt Cassel being the starter next year.
“According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, Matt Cassel will “for sure” be the Chiefs’ starting quarterback heading into training camp.
Schefter’s assertion comes two weeks after new coach Romeo Crennel backed Cassel at his introductory press conference. Schefter’s comments leave the door open for the Chiefs to add competition, but the feeling among organization higher-ups is that Cassel can still be a success. Free agent Kyle Orton has hinted he won’t be back after leading the Chiefs to a 2-1 record down the stretch. "
Source: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3237/matt-cassel
Adam Schefter is quite literally the very best in the business, if its coming from him I believe it.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
You can believe it
But that is not a quote from the FO.
No where in here did this mention the front office stating that MC was the starter.
This is only speculation by Adam Schefter.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Show me the last time Schefter was wrong then I'll agree with you guys
Until then I’m working with the assumption he’s starting going into training camp.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
If that's the case you should have said...
Adam Schefter never is wrong and stated, “Matt Cassel will ‘for sure’ be the Chiefs’ starting quarterback heading into training camp.”
not
And the FO has already stated he’s the starter going in.
For me I’m pretty sure that Matt Cassel will be our starting quarterback. I might not like it, but its how I see it. I doubt we get Orton or another FA QB, and I doubt that we get a 1st round QB. So we are stuck with Matt.
Go Chiefs!!!!
well if its coming from Schefter
Then our FO has stated, behind closed doors of course.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Sure why not?
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
And you know this how?
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
The only reason I believe it is its from Schefter
That’s about it, would love to be proved wrong but I doubt it.
And you as well believe whatever you want Tark, I won’t hold it against you. :D
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
Look Delaney.
I know you know where I stand on RG3. I think the Chiefs will make a move for him.
But if that doesn’t work, what’s the back up plan? A Peyton Manning that can’t throw more than 25 yards right now, or Matt Cassel? If Cassel is the case, we’ve got to be able to run the ball better than anyone. That’s all I’m saying. this team is built around Jamaal Charles. As of now, he’s still our best weapon. We’re still a run first team, and we’re still going to play defense.
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I gotcha
I’m just shoot from the hip on statements of certainty of the direction this team is going, and yes, dammit, I want RG3 :-)
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by RememberDelaney37 on Feb 15, 2012 7:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He'd break Baldwin's arm in half like a twig
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
As long as Cassel is our starting QB,
Any offensive draft pick or signing will not be about giving him weapons in the passing game or offensive line protection, it will be about knowing that even with big time targets or superior pass protection, he won’t be able to do anything with it
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by RememberDelaney37 on Feb 15, 2012 3:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
If he is to good of a player to pass up
then he should be mocked to the Colts or any other team ahead of us.
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The colts? Really? Them take a RB first overall instead of a QB?
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by RememberDelaney37 on Feb 15, 2012 3:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I would need a change of pants after that laugher.
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by GenericBrand on Feb 15, 2012 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Poor man's Greg Hill
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by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 15, 2012 3:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions
draft this man
our run game will be unstoppable, and we’ll consistently dominate time of possession like we did against the packers. QB league my ass.
Isn't Marshawn a free agent?
Sign BeastMo to pair with JC to form that nastiest RB duo in the league.
Use first round draft picks for O Line, D Line beefies…those are tougher to find.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Feb 15, 2012 3:34 PM CST reply actions
A much, much better idea
Even if Lynch isn’t my first choice. FA RB makes much more sense than 1st round RB. H*ll…I don’t want a RB in the first 3 rounds.
I wonder if JC can ghostride as well as Marshawn Nasty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3MGMXmRIGM&feature=related
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Feb 15, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
So dope
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 15, 2012 3:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He's not leaving Seattle
Ever.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Come to KC
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Feb 15, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
Fine you don't want me cheapass Clark? suck on...
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Feb 15, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
I dont like RB's in contract years
I think he is gonna get paid and then skate his way through for a couple of years.
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by nateforchiefs on Feb 15, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
I could get on board with this
but not unless we picked up AT LEAST 1, if not 2 starting lineman in FA
I think he will be good
but I think he is more of a product of that offensive line, so I’ll pass on that
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Even worse than wasting a top-12 pick on an interior guard.
by craig in calgary on Feb 15, 2012 3:41 PM CST reply actions
Or a top 3 pick on a 3-4 DE
Or a top 5 pick on a safety, or a top 30 pick on a 2nd round WR, or….
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
I’m actually down with Decastro in the first. It’s cool to think our middle three could be young, highly drafted dominant beasts (Hudson, Asmoah and Decastro). With Albert stepping up, I would even feel OK with Richardson with TE and FB help. He is a good run blocker.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Feb 15, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
Got us out of drafting in the top 10
And competing in the playoffs every year.
I’m down.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
Haha I guess 11 is out of the top 10.
Touche.
by craig in calgary on Feb 15, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
Or 12
Depends on the coin flip ;)
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
If we are going to draft a freaking guard in the first
I hope we lose the coin flip, then have a higher pick in the 2nd.
by craig in calgary on Feb 15, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
Well I'd rather draft a Guard
Then a shitty tackle.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
Reiff/Martin
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
So the #2 OT in the draft is shitty?
And everyone’s fav Mayock has Reiff as the #1 OT.
People always overrate Iowa linemen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmS0XmkMeJ0
If you have the time watch this tape, this was pretty much the only time all season he saw a real pass rush.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I know that
Green Bay is SOOOO disappointed in Brian Bulaga…He’s just one of the best in the league…
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 16, 2012 9:02 AM CST up reply actions
I don’t get why it’s so crazy. Niners took Iupati early, and he’s a beast just like their whole unit. Just load up on all the best beef.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Feb 15, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
I don't like it b/c we can fill that hole in the 2-4 rounds or in FA
Like we did with Hudson and Asamoah. I agree that DeCastro is better than what we will get in rounds 2-4 (possibly not better than what we could get in FA).
But the difference in OT in round 1 vs. 2-4 is greater than the difference in OG. OT is simply a harder position to fill. Case in point…Barry Richardson.
If they are going to do it, I hope they at least trade back 5-10 spots before taking him.
We'll ignore that #5 overall too
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by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 15, 2012 3:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Two years in a row out of the top ten (barely, but point taken)
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by RememberDelaney37 on Feb 15, 2012 3:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't ignore it
Didn’t you read above where I mentioned Berry?
But what Delaney said
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not super excited about Decastro
But if we are stuck picking 11 or 12, it can’t hurt getting the top prospect at any position, imo (save for special teams).
The bright side is we don’t have the amount of glaring needs anymore like we had the last few drafts
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by RememberDelaney37 on Feb 15, 2012 3:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Actually, having Richardson available where we pick is the best case scenario if we don't move up to get a QB/
Someone in the 20’s might go up to get him and we could get another 2nd, and draft a guard in the middle rounds like most people do.
by craig in calgary on Feb 15, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Possibly
But wouldn’t you think that teams would hesitate giving up picks for the same reason we are saying not to take a RB or interior linemen this high?
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by RememberDelaney37 on Feb 15, 2012 4:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I heard rumors that Cin is a team that may be interested and they already have a QBoF
and Benson is a FA so they could be a potential trading partner
All I have to say is if this were to happen
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I might be as upset as I was in 09
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Feb 15, 2012 3:42 PM CST reply actions
need a freaking fanchise qb
Pick up more talent in FA and we are SB favorites for many years in a row.
Or we can draft Richardson, stick with cassel and lay turds.
by chiefnation on Feb 15, 2012 3:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions
What quaterback do you think will be available at 11 or 12...thats has talent?
If you aint first...you're last!!!
either trade up for rg3
(Replace talent lost by moving up with the 63 mil to spend in FA.) Or get one in FA.
Worst case senerio draft one of those Arizona QBs, sign Orton and get rid of happy.
by chiefnation on Feb 15, 2012 3:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If we dont make a change at QB
we should draft richardson. Him and Charles would make an unstoppable duo.
Even IF he's the next Adrian Peterson
how many championships or even deep playoff runs have been because of star running backs lately? Vikings only made noise once they got Brett Favre. Overall 1st round running backs haven’t had the impact they once did in recent years. Darren McFadden gets hurt every time he looks like he’s going to finally get it going. Chris Johnson had one great year, mediocre since. Ryan Matthews has been mediocre. Saints leaned on Drew Brees, not Mark Engram. Rashard Mendenhall, where’s he been lately? Knowshon Moreno has been a mega bust.
Let me put this simply
Draft TRich. He’ll run well for 2-3 years behind a crap O-Line
Draft OL. They’ll turn 4th round RBs into TRich for 10 years
by Brad-KC on Feb 15, 2012 3:48 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
If Pioli drafts Richardson, I will be very disappointed.
The only runningback in the NFL today who’s even worth a 1st at all is Charles. So even if he ends up being as good as Peterson, it was still a wasted pick. We might as well reach for a QB.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Feb 15, 2012 3:50 PM CST reply actions
If he's available I would think reiff, Martin and Kalil are gone
Good player. Wouldn’t hate it.
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by BJ Kissel on Feb 15, 2012 3:51 PM CST via mobile reply actions
All of you who keep yelling for an offensive linemen
You do realize that, they don’t have to all be selected in the first round right?
Pioli seems to have a great track record for scouting them after round 1…
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Asamoah, Hudson is slated to start
And Kelce started all year for the Iggles.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
I agree they have potential
Great potential at that… but saying he as a great track record before the train has been on the track is getting a little ahead of yourself.
Asamoah is already on his way
Hudson started a few times and showed serious potential, and how many 6th round picks start at center all year long succesfully?
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
Colin Brown?
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by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 15, 2012 4:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
From that horrible 09 draft where he couldn't properly prepare?
Meh.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
He actually started at C for the Bills at the end of the season
Not saying he’s good, but I was surprised to see him back in the league. Chalk another one up to Muir’s keen eye for O-lineman evaluation in practice along with Gaither
Really? Wasn't he crazy tall?
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Giants, dominante d-line won Super Bowl
SF, dominant o-line and d-line in NFC Championship game. Good teams are built from the inside out
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Ahahaha
Nice.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
no it means waiting until atleast the 3rd to take a RB
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don't take LMJ at any cost.
Guy’s a bust. for sure.
You do realize that the Giants have drafted more guys for their secondary and skill positions in the early rounds over the years than they've been drafting for their defensive line right?
Over the last 6 years they’ve drafted like 16 guys that didn’t play in the trenches, and only drafted 5 guys who did, and out of those 5 guys only 2 were drafted in the first round. So clearly good teams being built from the inside out is not always true, the Giants offensive line is the worst in the NFL when pressured yet they didn’t address it all in any of their early rounds now did they?
San Francisco has one good DE and 3 good linebackers, and their offensive line is worse than the Chiefs and in general one of the worst in the NFL. Give me a break, at least look stuff up before you proclaim things. Nothing you said makes sense
SF has only 1 good DE? Would that be Aldon or Justin Smith?
Because both are straight ballin.
Perhaps the Giants didn’t draft inside because their d-line was already blowin up
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Smith is a linebacker
See: Hali/Houston
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
SF has a pretty good DL
Ray McDonald is underrated, he’s a beast in his own right.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
Tuck, Osi, Pierre Paul are dominant.
Why draft more beef when you have those three? The fact is they drafted them first, and then drafted other positions after their D-line was dominant
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by nateforchiefs on Feb 15, 2012 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
Tuck was a third rounder who just happened to pan out and JPP was the BPA in 2010, like Berry was. Which actually supports getting T. Richardson since he will also be the BPA if available at our pick.
I also went back about 6 years, you’re telling me in six years they only needed to draft 5 guys to play on their lines? They didn’t draft defensive line first, the real fact is that they tried to build up their skill positions and secondary most of the time. Hence my point that successful teams aren’t always built from the inside out, just another one of those stigmas that gets thrown around here by blind Chiefs’s fans.
All of you who keep yelling for Richardson
You do realize that, back up RBs don’t have to all be selected in the first round right?
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 15, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
He could be a starter
He’d be the only 3 down back on the roster, plus we have no idea how well JC will look coming off the ACL tear.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
Pierce/Pead/Martin could all be starters
Could all be 3 down backs, could all be had later
Next.
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 15, 2012 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
None have the talent of Trent Richardson
So there is that too.
But sure say Next, like your argument = Da winz or something.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
Just saying that there are other 3 down backs
No need to waste the 11/12th pick on a back up
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 16, 2012 6:11 AM CST up reply actions
As could Richardson
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 16, 2012 6:10 AM CST up reply actions
How many times do people go in circles around here before they realize that they have no point
All you did was name three guys later in the draft who you think could be starters just like I could do the same with offensive linemen. There really is no point in that argument, it’s stupid that people think that guys of a certain positional group can be had later, and guys of a different positional group can only be good when taken at a certain time like the first round. Truth is that any guy no matter what position can pan out whether he were drafted in the first round or the seventh.
When you get down to the root of the matter you come to the conclusion that you should take the BPA, and guess what? If Richardson is at pick 11/12 he supersedes all offensive linemen there and is considered the BPA. All Big Boards point to Richardson > DeCastro, now if you really think that people thought he would be the next Will Shields or Hutchinson don’t you think he would be projected higher? There sure are a couple of teams picking ahead of us that could use an offensive lineman who is supposedly supposed to be that good, don’t you think?
Wow so I should post the usual ''life span'' of RBs?
How there are less and less ‘’feature backs’’?
How teams are making them less important?
Do believe that has ALL been talked about to death, so no I’m not repeating it.
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 16, 2012 6:10 AM CST up reply actions
Sounds good to me
You take the BPA, not need in the first round. Trent Richardson fits the bill if he’s there, and I hope he is. The Chiefs would have the number one running game in the league with him and Jamaal splitting carries with McCluster getting carries here and there.
Charlie lost his GM job because he wasn't very good at it
We could use a RB, I love T-Rex, but with the needs on the OL, at QB, DE, and S…I think we could find somebody either later on or through FA. Not my favorite pick, I won’t be upset, Richardson is a stud and would be insane next to JC, but only if we’re getting Grubbs and drafting Sanders in the 2nd.
Dx3: Draft David DeCastro
Which would you rather have:
Draft TRich
Spend another late draft pick on a RT
Draft Martin/Reiff heck even DeCastro
Pick up a guy like BJGE
Or Mike Bush
or Jason Snelling, or draft Tauren Pool or any of the host of other talented RB’s that are ready to be picked throughout the draft. I like that idea much better than spending a high pick on a RB, even if that guy is beast-mode incarnate.
Dx3: Draft David DeCastro
Dont want BJGE
Rather take Lamar Miller in the 2nd round or sign tolbert
Let's say he ends up at KC's doorstep,
at the very least Pioli & Company have to appear to be very, very, very serious about taking him; if only to give the appearance to those teams further down, that they would have to pony up big time with player trades and picks.
You know Jerry Jones will have a woody if this guy falls to within sniffing distance of Dallas’s pick.
I also don’t understand why NFL teams don’t do more drafting and immediately trading like you see in the NBA. I say get the bargaining power by taking what others want and make them go thru you to get it.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Feb 15, 2012 4:26 PM CST reply actions
Because
then you’re stuck with someone you don’t want, if you can’t work out a trade. That or you have to settle for poor value in return for him.
you could sell them for Thanksgiving Pumpkin Pie
(which I find disgusting but I hear people like it)
damn, glad I missed THIS thread :-)
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
Yet...
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
waste
richardson waste of a pick, i would atleast go oline, help improve the running game, look at Denver in the past they had i believe 11 rushers go for over a 1000 yard its not the back its the blocking of the oline. plus it could help cassel, sad to say but when cassel has time he can make some good throws. as for our backs i like Dexter as a change up he has obviously shown he can run the draw and catch out of the backfield, and i like mclean as a power back/full back those 3 backs compliment the chiefs and fill a variety of play calling situations. go qb or oline at beat dline
by CANsasCityChiefs on Feb 15, 2012 4:55 PM CST via Android app reply actions
now you'rejust flat out lying to us
sad to say but when cassel has time he can make some good throws
My question is
Do we have the blocking personell for a power back? Could it be that McClain didn’t get more carries because our line can’t power run scheme? Like short yardage, it doesn’t matter who runs up the middle. If there is a ten man pile of human flesh at the line AP isn’t getting yards.
2012 is looking Awesome!
Which is why we should continue to upgrade
I see us moving towards more of a power scheme with Daboll and Bicknell in the fold.
Richardson would be great in a ZBS scheme as well because of his vision and explosiveness, he’s not just a power guy.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
This thread just got one DeCastro comment richer
Our offensive line needs to be more versatile. Enter DD
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I wouldn't care if we went Oline 1st and second if no QB is available.
That way when we strike gold @ qb in the toop half of next years draft, he will have a running game and better pass pro.
2012 is looking Awesome!
we're not getting afranchise qb this year, next year, or the year after that
It’s the Arrowhead curse on qbs, we’re the ying to qb yang. The Chicago Cubs of quarterbacking. the Noodlers of fishing and qb arms!
run first team
we are a run first team. so i would love if they draft richardson. it would help cassel out a great deal to have two excellent running backs.
i would also love if they drafted decastro, because this would also help run game. again, we are a run first team, even with the new OC coordinator who made reggie bush into a between-the tackles runner who many in the nfl DIDNT thinkg was possible.
Hot air bunch of couch potatoes
Reading trough all these comments, it suddenly struck me that KC could have a perfect season if we could somehow put all this know-it all hot air to use on the field. If you all know so much apply for a job with the Chiefs offerring your ass-tounding insights for the draft room. As far as I am concerned I trust in GM’s decision, his track record over the years ain’t too shabby. When your pick comes up you take the best player available to fill your long term goals. But, I also don’t believe KC needs to spend a pick on QB this year, rather look at support for that position, be it RB/FB, OL, TE, REC, whatever. Now if one of the top 3 college QB’s is still on the board that far down, might have to reconsider. 2013 draft will have a flood of really good durable QB’s, can think of several in KC’s own backyard.
I only see two quality College QB's in this draft
who is this third you speak of?
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
Weeden?
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 6:06 PM CST up reply actions
I actually like Weeden...
but at 28, he better learn FAST…
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 16, 2012 9:11 AM CST up reply actions
Where was he in the Heisman Voting 3 are 4 in the country.
That really means that at running back he is the best to come out of College this year.
If this dude is as good as they say he is, we really and truly could use a true power back in the RedZone that is a weakness of our.
Would you not want to score TD’s vs. kicking FG’s and it would not be thunder and lighting it would be a finess back with speed and lighting quick and a powerback with speed and moves who can break tackles.
What will we have when JC comes back, he is on the small side and absolutly don,t want another Mcfadden, look at trent as a non-stop running game we can,t are will not draft a Franish Quarterback then are we waiting 5 years in hopes of that said next best QB to come out of the trade, look AP’s i myself am tired of being the laiughing stock of the league, it was said in another blog we need a QB that is elite, good will not work, very good will not work, but one we can draft and not just get us to the big show but to win it.
We have so much cap room right now, but we take care of our players first, but when opportunies come along take them, we take a Larrry Allen type O-LINEMAN TO HELP OPEN HOLES FOR THE BACKS ARE GIVE ARE qb A CHANCE or a a player the very best one we can get at our turn . whatever position that would be a Pro bowl caliber player and build from there
Would like to try the Law-Firm first
Not seeing the AP comparison for Trent, the guy is not on his level coming out of college.
Its not the how they play perse
Its just that AP was a pretty complete back coming out and so is Richardson, outside of McFadden he’s probably the best back since Peterson to come out as well.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
Guess I'm in the not-sure crowd
BGE would probably come cheaper(who’s no slouch himself) and would allow us to go get some stud OL/DL with our top pick, assuming of course they would be the best player available. If he’s the no doubt BPA for us, I wouldn’t be pissed, but I’m assuming Cleveland would take em if they let Hillis walk. Plus I don’t wanna pass on a BGE and be assed out on this kid.
I don't quite get it either
It seems to me that everyone here is pretty much in agreement RB’s are commodities.
Don’t need to draft an elite one cause elite ones pop up all over the draft and in UDFA’s too.
Yet
I also here we should not re-sign RB’s cause they are usually done during the 1st contract in production.
So
Why not get the best one in the draft, ride him on the cheap for 4-5 years and then rinse-repeat?
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
Not-sure about what?
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
If I'd wanna take em as our 1rst pick
But like I said it depends on whos out there. I’m more of the let’s just have the ugliest draft in the world(OL/DL, sprinkle in whatever else) but if he’s the by-far BPA I wouldn’t be too pissed. I would just rather sign BGE cuz I doubt the Browns would pass this kid up if he’s the best RB comin out, seein as how they’re gonna need 1.
Ah okay that makes sense
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by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
Too bad this post only generated 300+ responses............;>}
Okay, I will say it again, if we HAVE to have a mediocre quarterback, this makes a lot of sense. I suspect the “competition” for quarterback this season will be Cassel against a couple of scrubs. That being said with Cassel as the qb, Richardson and Charles would do a lot to make our offense above average in spite of the quarterback.
"The Hammer"
Hopefully we don't have to endure a scrub QB for much longer
In that case, I’d rather build an OLine for whatever stud we get. And seriously…can we draft a Franchise QB at some point while I’m alive please?
Pioli addresses the Offensive Line by getting rid of Thomas Jones
and Selecting Trent Richardson to go along with a healthy Jamaal Charles
I can read between the lines
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
Take Richardson if Tackle Martin is not available & then trade him later in the 1st round
The Chiefs have lots of holes to fill besides Left Tackle. Another team will pay a premium for Richardson by trading their 1st & 2nd round picks so the Chiefs need to draft him at #11 if Tackles Reiff or Martin are not available. Drafting any of the 3 positions in with a late 1st round & 2nd round pick makes sense. (QB, NT, RT, TE, ILB, RB, DE). I Just hope that cheap skate Clark Hunt resigns Bowe & Carr especially if they are going to trade Dorsey for a low draft pick.
by Chief Fan from DFW on Feb 15, 2012 7:03 PM CST reply actions
:/
idk I guess but we have bigger needs but I do agree with if he is there we can’t not take him that’s just stupid
by kcchiefs2782 on Feb 15, 2012 8:40 PM CST via Android app reply actions
We COULD
trade down, and fill other needs with more draft picks…
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 16, 2012 9:13 AM CST up reply actions
Marshawn Lynch looks like predator.
Get to the choppa!!!!!!!!!!!
He gonna kill you, LIONHEART!
by tasty little guinea pigs on Feb 15, 2012 8:57 PM CST reply actions
I'd be down with this pick, I guess.
But I would need a pick like Osemele, Adams, Sanders or Glenn in the second round and then a Grubbs or Nicks pickup in the free agency. Then I would be TOTALLY good with it.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 15, 2012 10:28 PM CST reply actions
That is a nice list if low drafted rb
and obviously you have shown value. Before I sign off completely on your theory of playoff rbs, look at those teams QBs and Defenses. I won’t be crushed if they take Richardson and address OG in FA but maybe your list points out we need a franchise QB.
by hyney99 on Feb 16, 2012 1:42 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Take a chance on franchise QB
Ryan Tannahill could be the one ,I say if he’s still there it makes alot of since this year.
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