Triplettes
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 8:26 PM CST
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PrintHa, The Kansas City Chiefs attacking vertically. We all know why we have issues attacking Defenses deep.
So, the Horizontal attack with our ZBS Rushing attack and then maybe a little plunging fire from the Mortar battallion? Tight-ends are the New Passing attack.
Why Not, Lets get the opponent sliding left and right with a solid Front on the offensive Line and unleash the Three Horseman of Arrowhead.
2012 NFL Draft
1 David DeCastro OG Stanford
2 LaMichael James RBC Oregon
3 Orson Charles TE Georgia
4 Mitchell Schwartz OT Cal
5 Matt McCants OT UAB
6 Josh Norman CB Coastal Carolina
7 Janzen Jackson FS McNeese State
Booby Approved :)
Photos Credits
Jamaal via footballsickness.com
Dexter via media.commercialappeal.com
LaMicheal via media.oregonlive.com
Geaux Chiefs
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IMHO...too brittle
"I never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a few!"
/no skitzo
I like Brittle :)
It goes so Faaaaaaaaaaaaaast in my house!
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
I'm a straight up Herseys bar guy
"I never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a few!"
/no skitzo
My Wife eats all the Chocolate
I like Nattie
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Over my head Steve and that is easy but "Nattie" ?
"I never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a few!"
/no skitzo
But then again if you have three, it does increase your odds ; )
"I never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a few!"
/no skitzo
I've seen a few Oregon games and it always seemed like LaMike was getting banged up every other play.
………………I know they platooned a lot with Kenjon Barner (who, if we didn’t have McCluster) I would like. But I know he had some off the field issues, not sure what but he doesn’t seem to be a guy I’d want. But who the @#$% am I ; )
"I never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a few!"
/no skitzo
Running backs are a varied taste
Some like em big, and some like em early, and some like em late, and we shouldn’t even go into whether they Compliment Charles or not.
Maybe just a fist bump is enough for Jamaal.
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
I was playing with a Mock draft and actually had Fleener in the #2 pick
so we could have had Fleener, Charles, and Moeaki :)
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
Did AP just have a brain fart?
"I never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a few!"
/no skitzo
Lot's of them recently but tonite seems alright
Cali Quakes?
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
A few of my comments got doubled up.
"I never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a few!"
/no skitzo
I dont mind Fleener......is John Carlson still available in the FA market?
"I never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a few!"
/no skitzo
You would prefer a vet TE?
The Chiefs seem to too
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
I like Carlson....he is still pretty young.
………….I know he had a injury, maybe a neck, not sure. But he is a good blocker and good receiver. I think he would be perfect. Probably relatively cheap as well, due to the past injury.
"I never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a few!"
/no skitzo
Sounds good.....so we have DeCastro up there in the first..........
…..I’d skip LaMike and since Carlson is around there is no need for Fleener. Who do you go after in the second, in this scenario?
"I never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a few!"
/no skitzo
Osemele
or a big ass capable Guard that could play RT
My second round was flush with Guards and WR’s and DB’s
Best players on my NFP board
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
Osemele appeared a little sluggish. Not sure I couldn't find better OL in the 2nd.
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I like Zebrie, but I'm no draft guru.............
…………….It seems like there are a few decent Tackles that can be had, even in the third round. Even his team mate Datko could be something.
That could open the 2nd round up for anything really.
"I never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a few!"
/no skitzo
I really was drafting for starting talent
04 David DeCastro OG 6-5 310 Stanford 8.5
11 Orson Charles TE 6-3 241 Georgia 7.5
48 Josh Norman CB 6-0 190 Coastal Carolina 6.8
69 Mitchell Schwartz OT 6-6 318 California 6.5 D
87 Matt McCants OT 6-7 295 Alabama-Birmingham 6.4 B
118 LaMichael James RB 5-9 195 Oregon 6.2 C
I parsed it through drafttek
full board here
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
Understood. Sorta.
Josh Norman could be a great small-school pickup. Wonder where he’ll end up going, and when he’ll be taken. He was not at all intimidated in Senior Bowl week.
You always take TE and RB before I would, at least given the stage of development I see the Chiefs being in. Some have said Schwartz is basically Zebrie Sanders. I wonder if Sanders slips to late 2nd or 3rd and if Schwartz creeps up to something close to that.
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Can never know
but We can know their names.
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
I wasn't trying to be flippant
but if we can get the opponent sliding to protect the edge the cutbacks will give us yardage.
Goal Line? We have 58 tall possession receivers :) slightly exagerating
Jump Ball
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
You can jump rope, thats about it ; )
"I never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a few!"
/no skitzo
by Masons on Feb 14, 2012 9:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Balogna
That fade pass to the corner of the endzone is one of the few things which Cassel does well.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Feb 16, 2012 12:53 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah. Side-to-side.
I don’t think we saw enough commitment to TRYing to turn the corner early and often. But you have to get the execution level up to where it’s a dead heat if the D plays it perfectly. Maybe a minimal gain, but never for a loss. That’s why I didn’t care for Reiff, very much. Gives up too much ground, imo. Pretty athletic, but against 5- and 6-tech, trying to string out the play, he gets driven backwards.
I hope the Chiefs can go to that, and GET a runningback or two who doesn’t dance around when he sees they’re gonna be TOUGH yards. Just lowers his pads and makes defenders WORK for it, and salvages something from nothing, that way. That’s why I like the short, stocky RBs, who’ll just try to move pile if nothing’s really there. Guys who understand the physics and see the weak spot, in terms of leverage, when there’s really no hole. This is a vision thing that I think goes overlooked in guys who look for shit at the Combine, assuming they’re even invited. Get you a guy with those big Marcus Allen eyes, and quick brains.
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Like Le'Ron?
6’0, 265 pounds is quite the load to bring down.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 14, 2012 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
Yup. I like him.
I’d rather plow picks into road-graders for an all-around back like him, frankly.
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He made progress in pass pro'.
Still a non-factor as a lead blocker, imo. But he’s a guy who could play that kind of running style behind the right OL. I think Le’Ron might actually be more of an all-around guy for that system. Snatches the ball out of the air. Lead blocker. Pass Pro’ blocker. A load to bring down. Doesn’t dance around a bunch. One cut and go.
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The Chiefs could draft a Slot WR
or they could slide any number of players into the slot on a given play.
Breaston
Baldwin
McCluster
Moeaki
and in this case Orson Charles
I was just getting to that up a comment or two......
…..what about Juron Criner in the second?
"I never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a few!"
/no skitzo
National Football Post does not think highly of Criner
I have to have someone to trust…………
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
Yea, he is not ranked very high on CBS......he was injured, eh who knows. I had thought he had good hands and he is pretty tall.
"I never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a few!"
/no skitzo
LaMichael? In the 2nd? Srs?
Would much rather have Doug Martin.
Also Norman likely goes in the 2nd-3rd, he’s pretty talented. I’m not complaining if we get him later, just sayin.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
Hell, we'll just cut-and-paste some of Steve's many excellent comments, to make it longer, if we have to.
:oP
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I am a work in progress
I assure you this was not the idea when I was researching. just trying to out-manuever the Elephants
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah. You 'n' I seem to be partial to field generalship against elephants.
Fighting elephants without any elephants of your own was pretty revolutionary. Cost a lotta good men, while he figured it out, but Alexander was 2nd-to-none in gametime adjustments.
I think it takes a pretty special QB to really execute that stretch play offense. Elway managed it, but even in his dotage, he had better feet and was tougher to sack than most. Our current OL can do a heckuva job blocking it up off the run action, but it doesn’t always work. Need a heady, athletic QB with a BIG ARM to meet ‘em halfway, although Elway didn’t have the rocket arm after the biceps thing (i.e., during his SB victories, he wasn’t the elite downfield passer).
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Pink Elephants on Parade?
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 12:56 AM CST up reply actions
What is truly tough is to make a good Draft with DeCastro at the top
The premiere tackles are gone and everyone is a project from Mike Adams on down. If we can find a decent player for the RT in FA or drafted early in 2-4 round we got something going….
Cause the 2nd round is flush with offensive weapons.
Trading down leaves the same issue Offensive Tackle.
I would almost just suffer through Richardson for another year so we could get all the talent available in the 1st and 2nd rounds
IMO
well, any draft that starts with DeCastro is, of necessity, a good start
I don’t like RB in the 2nd, not that L James is a bad choice per se, but even a bit of a project at OT in 2nd should be close to ready to take over for BRich, no?
then too, is Dwayne Allen available? not that Orson Charles is a bad pick, I admit … damn, just has to be SOMEONE for OT in 2nd … has to be
hmmmmmmm … is 2nd too high for Antonio Allen?
1-2-3 are my focux points on the draft … after that it’s pure speculation (even before that, but you know the deal)
triplets … DeCastro-Hudson-Asamoah … one for all and all for me! on Donner, on Blitzen, cream cheese for the blintzes and blitz with Berry, not Lewis … re-sign Carr and Bowe and Orton and life shall be good, a light therefore to shine upon the land, fair knight!
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I don’t like RB in the 2nd, not that L James is a bad choice per se, but even a bit of a project at OT in 2nd should be close to ready to take over for BRich, no?
But why take a possible player on a reach? Both Fleener and Charles are top-3 TE’s and Fleener was the pick and Charles was the best pick in the 3rd. I could live with two TE’s, but AP? and then the RB’s were okay, but really James did not become a National player by being bad….
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Because they're not done on OL, and the shortest path to good RB depth is good, consistent, strong OL play.
Makes me sick, when they draft RB high, and there’re defenders trying to get the hand-off before HE can.
All due respect, Mr. Wiegmann and Mr. Lilja, but there’re just too many DTs in the league who can blow right by and through you. And those DTs play for the key teams we’re gonna have to beat in December, January and February.
Spend those 2nds on OL until you suddenly realize that promising dark horse UDFA has some GAME. You’d never see it, until the OL reached a tipping point, but NOW those smarts, toughness and hands that you signed him for, are suddenly showing themselves on the playing field, and all it took was that extra half-second Decastro could sustain that block… Now the kid’s gettin’ to the 2nd level and DBs are bouncing off him! Something you’d never know he had in him, without that nice crease created by the pancake block. And what’s this? Decastro’s still on his feet and took out the Mike LB!
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dogma
We don’t have to agree with Old School theory
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
I like the ZBS idea, but if you can't straight drop back and pass when you have to, you're in trouble.
Run action isn’t fooling anybody when you’re down a score, inside of 2 minutes. You’re throwin’ and they’re comin’ after ya. That’s why I keep going back to the classic elite tackles and top-1/3 interior. You can fall short on that and still be effective, but not WAY short on that, like the Chiefs have been since Roaf retired.
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Nothing works 100 percent of the time
When that Elite QB falls into the Chiefs pocket I will scream for joy.
Till then I will hope for scheme to win
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
That small vaseline-jerseyed O-Line in Denver was pretty good at grinding.
And if you can punch it in more consistently than the other guys, trading your long drives for their QB-centric quick scoring, you can win a lot of games pulling away. But it sure is nice to be able to pass pro’ when you’re sending 3 or 4 or 5 guys into the pattern.
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I did select a Guard and two Tackles
I wasn’t ignoring the trench
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
There's tackles and there's tackles.
But maybe Schwartz and McCants are damn good. Of course I like the Decastro pick, but that 2nd round RB just LEAPS off the page. My gag reflex kicks in, no matter HOW good the guy is.
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How bout DeCastro at Guard
Fleener flanking Richardson and Orson Charles lined up in the FB spot?
Dex in the slot
Charles as RB
Breaston and Baldwin wide
What Defense do you play?
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
ah Fleener at RT eligible
with Charles flanking him….
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 14, 2012 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
well then you'll have to declare that RT eligible thing and give away the whole bloody play!
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
do I look like Kalo? how would I know what bloody defense to play?
and what the hell did you do with Bowe? you bring him hack this instant, you inglorious bastard! :-)
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Keep the faith Chucky
Somebody is gonna have to keep the lights on around here when the Chiefs crumble and fade away next year.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
mot gonna happen ...
we’re playoff bound
at least if Pioli listens to me for a change ;-)
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Bucked up a couple of years back
now we get to watch the management of decline. Wounded Knee was a slaughter, remember? Pioli found the Hotchkiss that Carl left behind and he has already been learning to shoot it. Haley wasn’t the first, just the brightest name on the marquee to date. I hope I’m wrong, but I see darkness on the horizon.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
" I believe you have to be a glass half full person in this league, you really do."--Todd Haley
Well, the last time you predicted something terrible...
The lockout ended.
I’m taking this as a good sign :). Be our reverse jinx guy!
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
I'm down with that as long as we throw Le'Ron or Jackie into the mix every once in a while, keep the defense on their toes.
There worn out from jumping side to side trying to chase down these little gnats, then out of nowhere they have a 260 pound fullback is trampling them. Of course, I’d only be ok with this pick if we get DeCastro and a good tackle or Martin and a good guard. O-line comes first. :)
Also, I like Pead more than James. He’s a bit bigger, more durable, more physical but still has all the moves and speed. Just another addition to the unpredictable offense.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 14, 2012 11:23 PM CST reply actions
I like Pead, too.
But there’s getting outside FAST with a LITTLE guy and getting outside PRETTY fast with a LOAD. Terrell Davis wasn’t super-fast, but he was gonna drive DBs and LBs backwards on contact. To stop him from picking up 4 or 5 yards, you needed to get your big men outside the hashes. Saw it a few times, but especially when Denver beat the Packers. Gilbert Brown was excited because of the stuffs he got outside, but by the end of the game, he was as useless as Porus’s elephants were by the end of the Battle of Hydaspes.
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Only rb I'd take in the second is Miller
I’d like Pead, Pierce, or Polk in the 3rd. I don’t think LMJ will be good, we already have a fragile back.
by kckrazy25 on Feb 14, 2012 11:29 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Or even the Utah rb in the later rounds
Described as a powerful ZBS runner
by kckrazy25 on Feb 14, 2012 11:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Later rounds are good for RB.
I surely would like to see 2nd and 3rd rounds on a good, deep class of OL and DL. Trade down and nab a DB in the 1st 3, too.
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I would be disappointed if we went RB in round 2
There are solid options available in FA, and this team has too many holes to take a backup in round 2.
Round 4 would be the absolute earliest I would consider it, and that would be if there was a guy that I loved that slipped.
no thanks
I would prefer Miller or Pead
at least they’ll have a chance to carry an NFL workload if JC were to be out.
LMJ would be a great Sproles/McCluster type player… he might even be better… but there simply isn’t a need for another guy like that on this team.
Martin is right up there with Miller for me.
Looks like another Tolbert.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
My prediction is 80% for JC, but still getting 1,200 yards...
Honestly, I don’t know where his head it, so we will have to see. Ins for any RB is a good idea.
Teams will sleep on LMJ
just like they slept on Blount. Could realistically be availible 3rd or 4th round
And McCluster was an insurance policy for Charles.
At some point, they need to get serious about the guys blocking, and quit looking for insurance on top of insurance on top of insurance on top of… for the guys who NEED to be insured, because there’s nobody blockin’ for ’em.
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LaMichael's stats
CAREER STATS RUSHING RECEIVING
SEASON ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD
2011 247 1805 7.3 90 18 17 210 12.4 44 1
2010 294 1731 5.9 76 21 17 208 12.2 84 3
2009 230 1546 6.7 60 14 17 168 9.9 55 0
pretty consistent
The game is changing
Looks at the success of guys lik Scam Newton. The spread is infiltrating the league. Pass catching TEs and RBs like Sproles the new standard.
Sproles is good.
That Denver team won a couple SBs with very tough, physical RBs running behind that (cheating) athletic OL. A guy who can make something happen when the OL’s maybe just forcing the defender out of position a little bit, like he’s in position, but you got a piece of him, so he’s a tad off-balance and your RB hits him in the mouth. Sproles is just damn good, all-around. Not a power back, though.
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LaMichael James
3rd scatback? Why?
But another uptempo guy, the TE David Paulson (Oregon) in 6th or 7th, yes.
Really was the point of the post :)
Why pound the middle with big backs when you can get the edge and let your ZBS lineman do what they do best
Seal bigger lineman from the gap
But once again, that's much too predictable.
If we don’t even have a big back at all to threaten, then that’s just as predictable as lining up 2 big backs in the backfield. It’s not like three scatbacks isn’t less predictable than three brusiers.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 15, 2012 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
That's why I just like an all-around tough guy. 7's and 8's in every category, rather than 10's and 2's.
I’d run the scatbacks outside and inside and I’d run the big backs inside and outside. The scatbacks get headway up the gut off cutbacks and that first step to the outside. The big backs get outside with that first step forwards and then cutting it outside.
That’s why the 7’s and 8’s deal, with a Top 5 or 10 OL. One of the reasons I hate Thunder and Lightning is defenses can gear up against one or the other. I want players with a little of both, plus blocking, head and hands. These kinds of guys tend to go overlooked, and that’s why Shanahan was so successful with RBs in Denver.
Anyway, big backs can threaten the edge, same as scatbacks, if the OL is athletic enough. It’s all about gettin’ wide of the guys who are big enough to stop you. In Terrell Davis’s case, he wasn’t all that fast, but he was a tough tackle, and the big men it took to deny him positive yards got worn down. And scatbacks can threaten the middle, because the D spreads itself out to meet the edge threat, and the scatback can cut back against bigger men who are now running the wrong way.
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My reply function is not working
Big Bruisers can’t catch passes usually and can’t threaten the edge either.
Say we put a two back set in with Charles and James
we could attack either edge with either player and if the opponent sells out on the edge
Cut Back
and if the D sucks up to the line to stop the run
we got our mid range passing attack to keep em honest
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
If the D sucks up to stop the run, the D-backs will be waiting 15 yards downfield to deliver the highlight hit,
just like they have the past three years. Don’t kill Dex! Free Dex!
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
If the D sucks up, those DBs aren't 15 yards off the ball.
And Steve, there are big backs with good hands. They get open off the play fake, because backers have to bite HARD to keep ‘em from busting up the middle, and then that big back’s moving in the opposite direction, which frees HIM up behind the LBs. That’s why play fake or not, I’m tryin’ ta deck that running back, because he STILL wants the ball, only later.
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There are plenty of big guys with great hands.
Peyton Hillis, Mike Tolbert, Ovie Mughelli, Le’Ron McClain, Owen Schmitt, Jason Snelling, BenJarvus Green-Ellis… Steve Maneri.
Big is not a synonym for “unathletic”.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 15, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
There are plenty of big guys with great hands.
Jared Allen
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 16, 2012 5:51 AM CST up reply actions
Oh yes they are.
Difference is, they’re fifteen yards off the ball and already geared up to shoot forward because they aren’t worried about having to run the other way. I’ve watched it for the last three years. Every D-back we play has visions of making ESPN with a highlight hit on a crossing or dump-off route, and a lot of them do make it.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
I'm fine with James
after we get rid of McCluster. Which probably needs to happen anyways.
McCluster's fine. he's just waiting for the team to catch up.
You don’t compound the error of picking him when they did by making the same error. Now that you have him, you do what you should’ve done in the first place, and taken the OL to the next level. If they’d had horse properly in front of cart, that McCluster pick is OL and NOW a James pick would make sense.
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Of Charles and Jones which was the better RB in 2010?
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
in 2011
Rushing
Dex 113 attempts 510 yards
Jackie 149 attempts 597 yards
Thomas 153 attempts 485 yards
Receiving
Dex 79.7 Catch rate 334 yards
Jackie 81.8 catch rate 68 yards
Thomas 71.4 catch rate 43 yards
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions
2010
Rushing
Jamaal 230 attempts 1459 yards
Thomas 245 attempts 896 yards
Receiving
Jamaal 76.3 Catch rate 468 yards
Thomas 82.4 catch rate 122 yards
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
2009
Rushing
Jamaal 190 attempts 1120 yards
LJ 132 attempts 380 yards
Receiving
Jamaal 76.9 Catch rate 297 yards
LJ 80.0 catch rate 76 yards
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
Jamaal could've set the record for YPC.
But somehow the Chiefs still struggled to convert on 3rd down against the better defenses. 230 carries is the most Jamaal ever had, and when they STARTED him against the Ravens in the playoffs, there was the one big scoring play and not much else.
My sense of the game is get you an all-around RB who’s TOUGH and quicker than guys bigger, bigger than guys quicker.
And I’m a big Jamaal fan, but I’d sure rather see them lay off the high picks at RB, and invest in guys to block for Jamaal. And that’s assuming he’s the same player he was before the ACL, when he comes back. Best way to make him SEEM like the same player is to block better and solidify the passing game.
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You want elite RB's at a bargain basement price?
we did not have elite offensive lines in 2009 or 2010 either.
Jamaal got his consistently. and I bet a similar back could get it too.
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 6:52 PM CST up reply actions
I gotta side with Mills here. I don't think there are any similar backs.
He was one rush away from breaking a forty year old record. It’d be a mistake to chase draft picks in an attempt to duplicate him.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
But somehow the Chiefs still struggled to convert on 3rd down against the better defenses.
Better defenses do that to everyone, that is when Better QB’s come into the equation.
I am ignoring that other side of the issue :(
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
The Chiefs give up a huge chunk of relative Offense (to the rest of the NFL)
becuase of Cassel. Cassel is hunting 3000 yards while most QB’s are over 4000 yards passing.
So our ground game has to make up the difference. 2000 yards on the ground is not a luxery but a NEED for the Chiefs to make up for the QB. Wasting Downs on Ground Pounders over 5-6 yard per attempt Running backs is a bad bargain for the Chiefs.
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 15, 2012 6:50 PM CST up reply actions
This
Is just ridiculous.
Might as well give up 800+ yards from scrimmage (our 2nd biggest offensive contributor) and his 4.5 YPC (despite being used terribly for much of the year)…
Or something.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Fundamental flaw - triplets always include a QB.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
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