2012 Free Agency & Draft Predictions
by jscanlan on Feb 13, 2012 1:59 AM CST
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PrintThis is my first post on AP, and I want to say that I have read so many opinions on here about what the Chiefs should do. I am not going to go around bashing anyone, because I think that is classless.
On to more important matters concerning the 2012 Kansas City Chiefs.
Of course, it will be difficult trying to predict what the Chiefs will do with the Free-Agency, Draft, and what-not. However, it is one of the most fun offseason activities for the fan. Therefore, my first post of Free-Agency and Draft Predictions ever. Enjoy!
FREE AGENCY:
In-house: Dwayne Bowe, Brandon Carr, Jovan Belcher, Le'Ron McClain, Jackie Battle, Wallace Gilberry, Amon Gordon, Travis Daniels, Jon McGraw, Try to keep Kyle Orton
Let Go: Jake O'Connell (Don't agree with his signing), Jerheme Urban, Anthony Becht, Leonard Pope, Casey Wiegmann (retire), Kelly Gregg (retire), Sabby Piscitelli, Tyler Palko, Shaun Draughn
Top 4 UFA Targets:
1. Carl Nicks, G, New Orleans Saints
Look for Scott Pioli to aggressively pursue improving the offensive line, starting with the interior. Lilja is undersized and Nicks is a beast and a mauler. He's a perfect fit for a long future with the Chiefs.
2. Sione Pouha, NT, New York Jets
I am not the biggest fan of Pouha, but there is likely no long term fix at our NT position in the draft or on our current roster. Pouha gives the Chiefs a solid starter for the right money. I am a firm believer that stopping the run starts at the D-Line, but ends with the LBs. Look for Pioli to draft or sign an ILB in Free Agency to compete or start over Jovan Belcher.
3. Ben Grubbs, G, Baltimore Ravens
If the Chiefs cannot land Carl Nicks, Ben Grubbs is the next best option. He will cost less than Nicks, and offer better play than either of our current guards. If Pioli could score both Nicks and Grubbs, look for the Chiefs offensive line to quickly ascend to an elite level.
4. D'Qwell Jackson, ILB, Cleveland Browns
Jackson had a good year coming off of an injury. He won't need a ton of money to be satisfied, and barring injury, he has a ton of upside that would be great for competition amongst the Chiefs LBs.
5. Paul Soliai, NT, Miami Dolphins
Soliai would be cheaper than Pouha. However, Soliai isn't as dominant as Pouha. His age is an advantage, and if the Chiefs can't land Pouha, expect them to take a look at Soliai.
DRAFT:
11/12. Trade down with Chicago (19 and 50). Chicago takes David DeCastro, G, Stanford.
With the Free Agent acquisition of Nicks and/or Grubbs, David DeCastro's talents are not needed in KC. Pioli pulls off his usual stunt and trades down, stockpiling picks in the 2nd round.
19. Donta' Hightower, ILB, Alabama
With the first selection by the Chiefs, they select a heady, beast of an ILB, who will pair well with DJ. In DJ you have a tackling machine. In Hightower you have a thumper who can come in and help stop the run.
44. Zebrie Sanders, OT, Florida State
In the 2nd round, the Chiefs pick up a talented offensive tackle to replace the horrific Barry Richardson. This is also a friendly move for Chiefs C/G Rodney Hudson as the two of them were teammates in college.
50. Alameda Ta'amu, DT, Washington
Adding depth at the DT/NT position is a must for the Chiefs. With Kelly Gregg most likely retiring, and with the addition of Sione Pouha, Ta'amu can provide solid depth and learn the reigns from a legit veteran like Pouha.
75. Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa
McNutt is the next Josh Cribbs, except probably a more consistent receiver. McNutt looks like a prime candidate to run all of Daboll's wildcat schemes, and looks like solid WR depth and will provide Jonathan Baldwin with some legitimate competition, making them both better.
107. Levy Adcock, OT, Oklahoma State
Adcock is one of the most underrated Tackles in this year's draft. The kid is a stud, and the Chiefs would be lucky to land him at such a bargain. He could provide depth at either Tackle position, and potentially compete for starting time in the future.
118. Trade with Cleveland, #171 and 2013 6th Rd. Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati
Isaiah Pead looked very impressive in the Senior Bowl, and will probably be overlooked for a long while. The Chiefs seem to always take a RB in the draft, and this year we actually need one. Pead can be a very good 3rd down back, backing up Jamaal Charles. Obviously, this would bring in competition for Dexter McCluster, who hasn't quite lived up to his 2nd round hype.
138. Case Keenum, QB, Houston
Scott Pioli's token late-round QB comes at pick #138. Still trying to discover the next Tom Brady, Pioli drafts Keenum. I like the pick. Keenum's a good quarterback, and will challenge Ricky Stanzi for the backup QB position.
201. Tysyn Hartman, S, Kansas State
Hartman is a local guy with a strong work ethic and a nose for the football. Reminds me a lot of a younger Jon McGraw, and not just because they both came out of KSU.
206. Chris Galippo, ILB, USC
In all honesty, I don't know a whole lot about this guy. I've merely heard the name "Galippo" here or there. I just know that USC linebackers tend to be pretty good. So, Galippo could be a steal.
And that, in my opinion, is how the Kansas City Chiefs should handle the 2012 Offseason. Let me know what you think!
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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I'm a little confused with the ILB picks
If the Chiefs were to add Jackson (I read that Cleveland won’t let him go, and will tag him if they can’t get a contract worked out), wouldn’t Hightower be overkill? I do agree though, whether through the draft or FA, I’d like to see us add an ILB at some point.
After seeing Sanders crap the bed at the Senior Bowl, I’d pass on the guy in the 2nd, 3rd wouldn’t be so bad.
Lastly, no TE?
"There will be increased competition at every position, including the quarterback position".-Scott Pioli
Agree about the ILB
Although I would suspect none of those options will happen unless Belcher isn’t re-signed because we have Siler, who was slated as the starter last season, under contract again. As for Sanders he only struggled in the one on one drills which historically most ZBS guys do but in the game Sanders was one of the best linemen on the field.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Feb 13, 2012 8:32 AM CST up reply actions
I would still look at Siler and Belcher as guys who could be replaced
Not necessarily saying they’re “weak links”, but that they could be upgraded. I agree Sanders looked better once the game was live, must be the Allen Iverson of football. I think he screwed up enough to drop a round though, so if he was available in the 3rd I’d have no complaints.
"There will be increased competition at every position, including the quarterback position".-Scott Pioli
Hm
Just curious, but have you watched Siler play in SD?
Yeah, nothing earth-shattering there
He’d be good competition, but is hardly the answer. Between he and Belcher, I’d still roll with Belcher, but if possible I wouldn’t be upset if we bring in someone else to compete.
"There will be increased competition at every position, including the quarterback position".-Scott Pioli
For sure
I’’m not debating that they could be replaced at all but just how its set up I think it’s unlikely that the move is made or that Pioli puts a high priority on it. I’m with you and would like to see some new (and quality) blood there.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Feb 13, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
I think with the attention paid to DL in the main post, Belcher automatically looks better, or MAYbe one of the
unheralded LBs already on the roster, emerge. Belcher’s basically become the Mike Vrabel of the defense, calling the plays and playing team ball, so other guys can make plays. They’re maybe a Paul Soliai, Sione Pouha, or Alameda Ta’amu away from really setting the table for SILB. When/if that happens, I’m not sure what I’ll think about Belcher. All I know is his play improved with the hiring of Kelly Gregg.
I still might want to replace him, in favor of more of a playmaker, after the NT starts winning battles, and Belcher’s a step slow or, more likely, fails to break down and make the tackle when the DL sets him up for the sack/TFL. Gregg held his own, but he wasn’t worrying anybody.
I didn’t think Sanders was all that bad in the drills. They’re tilted towards the defender, and nobody calls holding. Like I noticed last year, there’s a lotta reaching and grabbing going on, from guys others think are just awesome, and Mayock and crew don’t bat an eye. You play it straight, like a pro NFL blocker in an actual game, with a referee hovering behind him, and you’re gonna lose in those drills. But like I admitted, earlier, I’m not sure Sanders is gonna be STOUT enough to handle NFL pass rushers or help keep the pile on its feet and moving forward, when it’s root, hog or die.
would of ≠ would've
An important note that I must have left out is that someone like D’Qwell Jackson would be an ideal player to pursue in FA, yet it may be smarter and cheaper to pick up someone like Hightower or Keuchly in the draft. Also, about the TE. I thought about drafting Coby Fleener or Orson Charles in the 3rd, but according to the mock draft I was using as reference (for order) they were both gone by the time the Chiefs picked. I don’t see Pioli trading up for a position that, when healthy, is a strength. Chiefs may look into a cheaper option at TE via FA, and there are some decent TEs out there. Probably won’t get a Jermichael Finley because he’s too expensive, but maybe a Scott Chandler or John Carlson-type of player.
If we go to FA to fill the TE spot, Tamme from Indy would be a nice addition
Otherwise, and if it was possible using your mock, I wouldn’t be upset if we got Fleener in the 2nd, and Sanders was able to fall to us in the 3rd.
"There will be increased competition at every position, including the quarterback position".-Scott Pioli
I like Tamme
especially if we get Peyton. Familiar faces and all that….plus they showed some real chemistry in 2010 when Clark was out most of the year. Helped me win my fantasy league….
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 14, 2012 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
Good pickup, that guy came out of nowhere that year
"There will be increased competition at every position, including the quarterback position".-Scott Pioli
Soliai would be cheaper than Pouha
Other way around, Soliai is still decently young and will command a higher payday
Agree with severn, pick up Jackson.. draft Hightower then draft Galippo? 2 slow thumpers?
At 19 I would look at Adams/Minnifield first, Allen/Zeitler/Sanders in the 2nd, etc
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee
no pead
would rather want a bruiser. Maybe the rb from orgeon. convert mcfumble to reciever and give charles someone to compliment him. Don’t need another speedy back.
LaMichael James is about as not-bruiser as you can get.
But I’m down with Chris Polk. Or even Jackie Battle, Jason Snelling, Peyton Hillis, or even just using Le’Ron as a runner more.
Also, you’d be surprised by Pead’s toughness. He may be small, fast and have moves, but he’s really a very physical runner. He surprises DB’s who break down waiting for a move only to be bowled over.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 13, 2012 8:11 AM CST up reply actions
IMO
The ‘’thunder and lightning’’ has ran its course, it’s better to have 2 of the same type of backs, like 2 Charles, guys who could break a big one at any time instead of Charles+a slow guy they can stack the box against.. no need to make the offense as predictable as possible
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 13, 2012 8:31 AM CST up reply actions
This
If you can have two backs that are simillar that have speed and are still physical enough to run between the tackles its a much better setup. No use having a backup RB that you have to change the offensive plays for because defensive coordinators will pick up on that. If you’re re-signing McClain anyway then you dont need a “thunder/lightning:” rb combo.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Feb 13, 2012 8:34 AM CST up reply actions
Don't need to re-sign McClain to get the ''thunder'' rb
We have Mims!
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 13, 2012 8:41 AM CST up reply actions
How crazy would it be if you were watching a game and just saw Mims lining up in the backfield...
That’d be the most spectacular thing in the entire world.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 13, 2012 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
Or Mims as an extra Olinemen/TE
With Powe as FB ala The Refrigerator Perry
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 13, 2012 9:02 AM CST up reply actions
I think I might just explode out of amazement if that happened.
I’d been saying this entire season we needed another Shaun Smith a.k.a “Deep Freeze”. Powe would be perfect. Or Soliai.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 13, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
Nice! Powe did play Fb in College
" The world is Yours"
by Jeremy Daniel on Feb 13, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
I never thought the Fridge was a gimmick, so much as a sound idea.
You get a mountainous man, who’s quick out of the blocks and give him a running start at the line with the ball. But can he catch a pass? Heh.
would of ≠ would've
It'd be like the Fridge...
We could call Mims the Chest Freezer…
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 14, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
The main reason for the Chiefs drafting Pead is that he would be a good fit with the system and he would provide competition for DMC. Also, I want to see the Chiefs give McClain the ball more toward the middle of the field. Remember a couple of years ago when he was with the Ravens, and remember that he is a 2-time Pro-Bowl FB. I say give him another 1-year deal, and actually include him in the offense. If it doesn’t pan out, start looking for another FB at the end of the season.
actually
I think Pead would be more of a JC backup than anything
as we saw last year, I think it’s critical to be able to have someone step in who can run like JC if JC is out
Pead has some of that, but I think he's more rugged than JC.
He’d be fantastic value in the 6th round. I don’t think he’s slip that far. If he’s there in the 4th, he’d be tough to pass up.
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Don't we have another fullback?
On the PS….Guy from Yale…Bannon, right?
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 14, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Shane!!!!
I liked what I saw from him in preseason and he really is a very impressive athlete, but his degree is what keeps him from really contending right now.
You looked at him in training camp next to McCluster, Jones, Charles, even big Jackie Battle and Bannon looked like a lineman.
I mean, he went from weighing 240 pounds to reportedly going on some insane diet and exercise plan and put on around 30 pounds so he weighs like 270 now.
You watched his highlights from Yale and he just manhandled everyone, and he was only like 240 then. Sure, he’s in the NFL now but I’d like to see him get on the team and get a shot at some other teams starters as opposed to the backups and PS’ers on others teams.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 14, 2012 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
That's odd. Bannon looked more like a TE/FB 'tweener. A bit leaner than I expected.
No way he was playing at 270 last year in preseason. I think he looked a little light when I saw him in preseason. He wasn’t the bruiser I expected from game film, which is understandable, considering he played in the Ivy League. As of now, he lists at 245 on the MotherShip.
It’d be awesome to see him at 260, and still able to make catches in space.
would of ≠ would've
totally agree would love to see pead in kc
by kcchiefs2782 on Feb 13, 2012 11:56 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
I like Vick Ballard out of Mississippi State
Float like a butterfly, and sting like a bee!
by IamtheGreatest on Feb 13, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
ya ballard would also fit great
by kcchiefs2782 on Feb 14, 2012 12:01 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
also no cb
need more depth in the secondary. The team should be able to get a backup S in FA. I’ve never heard of the reciever, but Arenas could handle more snaps with the wildcat. He seemed to do well when he was in it even if it was just a 5 yd run for the td when he did.
The thing with DBs is that they generally take 2-3 years to develop into their role in the defense. Drafting a DB in my mind, isn’t necessary until it becomes necessary. Yes, the safety position needs depth, but that can be addressed in Free Agency. A FA backup safety would be a better deal than a 5th-7th round DB that nobody has heard of because the FA has developed and has some NFL experience under his belt. Regarding Marvin McNutt, you should definitely look him up. Impressive kid. Started out as a QB, moved out to WR, and in two years as a WR for Iowa, he has broken both the receptions record and receiving yards record at Iowa. To me he sounds like a great value, and a great dynamic player who can do a lot of things.
McNutt made a bad impression on me in the Senior Bowl.
Could just be a glitch, but drops…
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Dude... I see where you're getting at but I can't agree.
Why get both Grubbs and Nicks? Asamoah had a better season than Grubbs did. Lilja’s the one needing replaced.
And why would we take Hightower when we would get Jackson, or even when he could potentially be our second pick? Same with Burfict. Really, Belcher is an under appreciated guy too. He’s a beast in run support, just sucks in coverage, hardcore.
So I say we either draft a guard (DeCastro) then take a tackle later or in free agency to replace B-Rich, or take Jonathan Martin/Riley Reiff then take Nicks/Grubbs/Vasquez in the free agency.
Then we get Soliai and let Jerrell Powe learn the ropes from a Pro Bowl NT.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 13, 2012 8:09 AM CST reply actions
If the Chiefs cannot land Carl Nicks, Ben Grubbs is the next best option
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 13, 2012 8:29 AM CST up reply actions
but then he says something about getting both
by stagdsp on Feb 13, 2012 12:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
just went on the baltimore site on sports nation and they way they talk about there cap.
they wont be able to keep grubs, sounds like ray rice is getting a new deal and talk of flacco getting a deal.
them fools are actually talking about trading boldin for a 3rd round pick. lol.
Make that trade in a heartbeat...
Boldin can join the killer B’s…and rejoin his old teammate, Breaston….
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 14, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
Exactly
Waste of a 3rd unless we lost Bowe, even then Boldin has not looked too great in Balt
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 14, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
We need to address the O-line via free agency. Personally I like Nicks but Grubbs would work as well. We do not need to pick a RT OT in the first round. Assuming we pick up a G via free agency. Trading down would then allow us to pick up one of the best players in the draft at the LB position. It would also allow us to pick up two quality players at postions we really need address in the 2nd round. Where usually you pick up top players at the position of RT OT and NT. Even if we have Siler, we need depth at the LB position and it would create a little competition.
I’m not up on the names but do like the order in which you addressed certain positions. I read in one post they thought the Chiefs would get a 3rd round pick for Waters. I’m not sure that is the case becaused we released him, but if so that would even make this draft that much more productive.
GO CHIEFS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I voted NO... but only because of a couple of minor things
- Keenum is not an NFL QB
- overkill on the DL and ILB additions: Soliai OR Ta’amu would be sufficient, and I think Belcher/Siler are fine, but Jackson/Hightower would be overkill
This is very much an AND/OR type of post. I don’t think that drafting an almost 3rd round DT/NT to be a starter is sufficient, and that is why if I’m Pioli, I pick up a vet and bring in a rookie. Also, I said this in a comment above, but D’Qwell Jackson is an ideal player. Obviously, if the Chiefs bring in someone like Jackson, they won’t need to draft an ILB. The top 4 FAs are top 4 targets, not necessarily acquisitions.
makes sense
but, I don’t see DL as a big enough need to bring one in AND draft one… unless they lose someone currently on the roster.
I think Powe will have a shot to be good at the pure NT spot, and Gordon could be back at DE/NT, where he was pretty solid. So, I think picking up one new DLineman would get the job done, and they should focus elsewhere
But again, it might be an either-or thing. If you land the FA NT, then you go another direction in the draft
than Ta’amu. But yeah, based on what’s written, if it IS either-or, there ought to be an either-or at the Ta’amu pick.
Myself, I think high-profile FA NT or high in the draft is all contingent of what RAC thinks he has in Powe. I think there’s a decent chance that Powe takes over at NT and holds down the job for a few years, while KC churns roster, there. Getting quality and quantity snaps out of Powe would be a major coup for the scouting and GM.
Personally, I’m kind of partial to making a draft pick on purpose for 3-4 DE, again. Be great if Bailey takes the next step, but I suspect there are some nice 5-tech prospects that are gonna slip, but who will be able to play RAC’s 2-gap scheme.
would of ≠ would've
Still, I like him getting those names out there, as guys to pursue.
Like I forgot all about Sione Pouha, although he’d be someone on my list. I’d target all those guys and I’d even include Demetrius Bell in that. There’s also OC Meyers, who nobody thinks will get away from Houston. At the least, I’d be drivin’ up the price tag for all those teams to retain their guys.
There are a lot of different scenarios living inside the mega-offseason presented, that look pretty good.
What I don’t understand is the trade-down to #19 for stockpile of 2nd-rounders and then I only see a single 2nd-rounder being spent. Maybe he means they’re 2013 2nd-rounders?
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Soliai is MUCH better than Pouha. And younger, stronger, bigger, more athletic, so he's the obvious choice.
The thought of D’Qwell Jackson opposite DJ is absolutely beautiful, though. We’d easily have the best LB core in the NFL.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 13, 2012 10:23 AM CST reply actions
I just thought, they would both be named DJ.
This creates a problem.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 13, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
I like James-Michael Johnson in the draft
then our ILB duo would be Johnson & Johnson
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 13, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't we already try to get that combo?
Micah Johnson?
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 13, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
Chiefs can use inside help on both Offense and Defense:
FA Ben Grubbs, G, Baltimore Ravens; I’d rather have Carl Nicks but Ben Grubbs is an OK option. He is better play than either of our current guards.
FA D’Qwell Jackson, ILB, Cleveland Browns; I would step in at same or higher level than Belcher.
FA Paul Soliai, NT, Miami Dolphins; He has had flashes of high level NT play. KC would not overuse him as they spend less time in base 3-4 then many teams.
DRAFT:
With the Free Agent acquisition of Nicks or Grubbs, David DeCastro’s talents are not needed in KC. Pioli pulls off a “Sensible” and “Safe Move” and trades down, stockpiling picks in the 2nd round.
- DE/DT Coples, Brockers, Cox, Still, Thompson or Worthy.
With the first selection by the Chiefs, they select a DE/DT that can provive ability to hold the edge and more importantly provide a lot more pressure on the Passer.
#2a OT Zebrie Sanders (Florida State);
In the 2nd round, the Chiefs pick up a talented offensive tackle to replace RT Barry Richardson.
- 2b CB Chase Minnifield (VA);
Adds vital cover skills for a 3rd or 4th DB when in Nickel and Dime situations. One of the high rated SS or FS would be a good pick here as well.
- RB Pead 200 lbs. (Cinc) or RB Martin 218 lbs. (Boise);
Either would offer a high level compliment for Jamal Charles. ( Possibly flip #3 with #4 .)
- SS/FS Harrison Smith (ND);
Some rating services have him still available here. Should give a fight for Starting Safety position with Lewis and provide great depth and vesatility for Nickle and Dime situations where a 3rd safety is desired. or Best CB available:
#5 TE Egnew (MO);
Also like TE Green (La Laf) here or TE Ellison (USC) in 5th.Need another Offensive weapon that will not be a Movement or Holding call waiting to happen.
- 6 RB Bobby Rainey (W.Kty):
Only about 5’8" but a strong 208 lbs gives this guy some power in lower body and hard to hit elusiveness. He had a lot of wear and tear in college but NFL RBs have a short career anyway.
7a ILB Chris Galippo ( USC) or SS Sean Catouse (Cal)
7b NT Jean-Baptiste (Baylor) or CB D’anton Lynn (PSU)
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
Yikes!! numbering failure.
Should have been #1, #2a, #2b, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7a and #7b.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
D'Qwell was second in the league in tackles, I believe.
So he’s better than Belcher or a littler higher.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 13, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
ya I like pretty much all of that
but we need a QB in there some where in the mix
by kcchiefs2782 on Feb 14, 2012 12:06 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
by CatChief: If you really want Minnifield, I bet it'll take the 2a pick and the 2b pick will be too late.
And I bet you could find OT upgrade with that 2b pick. And it might be that Demetrius Bell is within reach and grasp in FA, as well.
But grabbing OG in FA and then going DL in the 1st looks purty reasonable. Not what I’ve been thinking, recently, but looks pretty good.
would of ≠ would've
I would rather take
Gerell Robinson later in the draft than McNutt. And I dont know what to think of Sanders… I dont see anything special about him in his play. He looks like he did just enough to get by, and I think he is going to be overwhelmed in the NFL. Not to mention that inexcusable play in which he just stood still during an entire play…
Read up a little more on FSU...
Not to mention that inexcusable play in which he just stood still during an entire play…
Before you spout off comments like this you might want want to do a little research. Florida State’s offensive line has been famous for this for years. Sanders did exactly what he was supposed to. If a D-Lineman jumps early their coach expects the entire offensive line to remain in their stance, shows pretty impressive discipline.
Regarding Marvin McNutt, you should definitely look him up. Impressive kid. Started out as a QB, moved out to WR, and in two years as a WR for Iowa, he has broken both the receptions record and receiving yards record at Iowa. To me he sounds like a great value, and a great dynamic player who can do a lot of things. He has a good NFL receiver build, and would give Jon Baldwin some competition for playing time.
Prediction:
Hightower won’t go in the 1st, he’ll be a 2nd round selection.
#82 - Pay The Man & Play The Man
by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 13, 2012 2:28 PM CST reply actions
Pretty safe bet there
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 13, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
Bring in OG Grubbs and NT Soliai from FA.
Trade down in the draft and get Hightower or Burfict with 1a.
With 2a get OT Sanders or Adams and 2b get a TE like Fleener or Charles.
3a could be a DB like Minnifield.
Just say no to Burfict
Don’t see Adams lasting til the 2nd
Minnifield will not last til the 3rd
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 13, 2012 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
No Burfict. The kid is an incredible talent, but off the field he is a sociopathic freakshow. Chiefs don’t need that fiasco. Hightower is a safer pick with comparable talent.
On the field he is not much better
He regressed this year, no where close to a 1st round prospect, not even an option in the 2nd for the Chiefs
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Josh Chichester TE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 14, 2012 5:50 AM CST up reply actions
For the last time, it's not OFF field issues
I get Burflict has issues. I get that those issues are tanking his stock and raise major questions. But seriously people need stop saying they are OFF field issues, Burflict’s problems are exclusive to ON field problems. By all accounts he is quite and shy off the field. It’s not the off field issues you need to be concerned about in his case but him losing his temper on the field. Not exactly a ringing endorsement and still equally concerning but it just gets really old seeing the kid constantly cut down for an issue he doesn’t have, you’ve got plenty of ammunition with problems he genuinely has.
Its not all ON the field
How about the most recent locker room incident? Burfict WAITED for a WR to come into the locker room before attempting to punch him.. what? that is ok?
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/erickson-hiding-asu-stars-locker-room-assault-29809
What about the kid is there to like? Bad in coverage, bad at getting off blocks, bites on almost every play action, doesn’t wrap up and misses easy tackles, throws fits on the field, above, I mean seriously.. what about this kid makes ANYONE think that handing him millions will all the sudden make him get his head right?
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 14, 2012 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
Not saying I want him
I’m not saying I want the kid but people keep implying that he is trouble off the field and that is false. The kid isn’t mixed up in drugs or DUI’s or any of the other off-field issues that normally cause people to drop his problems are football related. If you read what I wrote you’ll see the only thing I objected to was people saying Burflict has all of these OFF field issues, it’s not true. Once again I don’t want him because of his ON-field issues
I have seen some people mock him to the Ravens/Pitt/Pats
At the end of the first round, Pats do make some sense. They could use another prospect to throw in their secondary, almost as bad as another pass rusher
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 14, 2012 5:52 AM CST up reply actions
Probably should flip Adams and Hightower
Adams wont drop out of the first Hightower almost assuredly will.
If Seattle wins the flip
do we alternate rounds after that, or do they ALWAYS get #11 each round?
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Feb 14, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
What we do may largely be affected by the coin flip
@ 11, alot of potential trading partners should be there for Trent Richardson, @ 12 not nearly the leverage with Seattle likely to take Trent off the board
I just want to see a ILB and/or TE in the 2nd rd.
Trade down and get OT or guard in 1st then ILB or TE in second. We need a TE that can play 16 games a year.
So hard-working, big hitter, good at run support, and can't cover.
Basically just sounds like Belcher with a little extra beef.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 14, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure where you got that he can't cover
He covered most of the TEs ’Bama faced.. Hightower covered more than Barron did
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 14, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
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