"Historically good." "League leader." Yet somehow Bowe suffers from an incredible lack of respect outside of Kansas City.
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Bowe is one of the best blocking wide receivers in football
And one of the toughest running receivers. Bowe has some flaws, but lack of toughness is NOT one of them.
Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
by nateforchiefs on Feb 11, 2012 10:20 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
Agree.
The toughness comment seems pretty baseless.
by radyman on Feb 11, 2012 10:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Its based off the Steeler game last year
And Cris Collinsworth saying Bowe should have went after the ball more, which I find silly since it was completely out of reach.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 11, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
No kidding
The pass was so poorly thrown, I’m pretty sure he must have thought it was intended for someone else.
by cheapham on Feb 11, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
And cris collinsworth has never jammed his foot in his mouth
by radyman on Feb 11, 2012 11:30 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Not unless
It has been properly seasoned, cooked to medium-well and has plenty of hot sauce.
Jamaal Charles is here to kick ass and chew bubble gum; and he's all outta bubble gum.
by His Royal Greatness on Feb 11, 2012 6:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I can live with Bowe's reputation being less than stellar.
If it means he’s easier to bring back as a Chief. Here’s the message to the NFL : He’s terrible. You don’t want this slacking wimp. Let the message Chiefs figure out how to deal with his 1000 yds receiving and 10 TD a year.
by radyman on Feb 11, 2012 10:23 AM CST via mobile reply actions 4 recs
The actual NFL front offices are going to have a much better opinion of Bowe than this Chicago clown.
Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
by nateforchiefs on Feb 11, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
I would think so, unfortunately.
by radyman on Feb 11, 2012 10:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Great writeup.
Fortunately for Chicagoans, and unfortunately for us, I’m willing to bet Phil Emery knows what that sports writer doesn’t: that Dwayne Bowe is miles better than any receiver the Bears suited up last year. No disrespect to guys like Knox and Bennett.
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by MtHammer on Feb 11, 2012 10:29 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Mullen forgot to mention
That Tyler Palko was the Chiefs QB vs the Bears. It’s hard for any NFL WR to be productive when the QB is horrible and doesn’t belong in the NFL.
by Lee Gardner III on Feb 11, 2012 10:34 AM CST via mobile reply actions 5 recs
if you were a GM
would you praise a potential free agent? they also don’t want everyone else to know that they’re “interested” in said free agent. i just hope Pioli is as interested in Bowe as the fans are!
by stuck in denver on Feb 11, 2012 10:56 AM CST reply actions
that's why im nevous he might leave
Looking for the respect in a big market franchise
by CHIEFFAN82 on Feb 11, 2012 11:04 AM CST via mobile reply actions
he will get respect when
and if KC wins consistantly. we didn’t have a problem with 5-6 pro bowlers a year in mid 90’s or early 2000’s. i believe winning gains respect especially in smaller market teams.
by stuck in denver on Feb 11, 2012 11:13 AM CST reply actions
I doubt that happens.
Not trying to be a smart ass but, even the NFL greats have brain farts sometimes. IMO, his drop problem is a thing of the past and a non issue. He’s going to drop balls from time to time just like every other WR at any level.
"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse"
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by Chiefs_40 on Feb 11, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think anyone in their right mind would compare Bowe to Rice
and just because you don’t remember it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Even MJ missed some free-throws.
Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.
by joplin chiefs fan on Feb 11, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
sound kinda like a homer.
I love the fact that Bowe is a Chief and I hope he stays with them. He make some of the most spectacular catches in the NFL. He also drops some of the easiest catches which is a fault. But, he is good and the best we have, and I’m glad he is here.
Apparently you never watched Rice play...he dropped plenty in his early career
Jerome
by easyjb on Feb 11, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well homer I will tell you that Bowe is not the best in the nfl.
But he is good besides the fact that he drops some easy passes. He is my favorite Chief by far.
Don't we wish everyone could make peace like a Homer?
Note to Mr.Pibbs: There are many many many homers ‘round here. And I’m one of em’. Oh, and by the way, I drink Dr. Pepper.
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 11, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, now you know how to really hurt a guy.
Come on Man! Dr. Pepper??
by Mr.Pibbs on Feb 11, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Dr. Pepper is king in comparison,
IMO as well.
At least I can still hate the stinking Raiders!
by Chiefs1 on Feb 11, 2012 5:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just a joke.
But I can honestly tell you that I haven’t even seen a Mr. Pibb in years.
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 11, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
Jerry Rice has spoken at length about how when he came into the league he dropped a bunch of passes.
Nobody does less with more than Bevo.
by ghostofmunicipalstadium on Feb 11, 2012 7:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
See Welker, Wes in the Super Bowl
Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.
by joplin chiefs fan on Feb 11, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
That wasnt
exactly an “easy” catch, which are the ones that Bowe cant seem to catch
by badassz1987 on Feb 11, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah that would have been one hell of a catch had he made it.
The fact that he even managed to get around and get his hands on it was pretty impressive.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
by TRSChief on Feb 11, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well obviously.
Mr Pibb changes the entire equation.
I’m pretty sure there’s a rule in the NFL rulebook that forbids consumption of Mr. Pibb within two hours before, or anytime during the games during the season.
It’s just an unfair advantage.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
by TRSChief on Feb 11, 2012 6:09 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
My only problem with Bowe has always been his drops.
He’s just had some crazy and crucial drops over the years. Hard catches, he can do, easy catches he suddenly has no thumbs.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
Thats what we got Breaston and Baldwin for
Throw Bowe the impossible catch for a TD hit Breaston and Baldwin for the sure 1st downs
-After this OC fiasco if the Chiefs dont WIN a playoff game in 2012 FIRE SCOTT PIOLI-
-Kool Aid drinking Cassel Believer-
(7-9) My record of picking Chiefs games before the season
(12-4) My Chiefs before the season prediction
Thunder Win-Loss 2011-2012 record (52-14)
Western division champs
NBA Champs over Miami Heat
That is the perfect solution.
But we still need someone who can make those throws.
true!
maybe he gets a lil cheaper then?
by stuck in denver on Feb 11, 2012 11:32 AM CST reply actions
That is my hope. Then we get to keep him.
He is a keeper you know.
Silly article
He made it seem as if they’re only going to look at games the receivers played against the Bears.
Any receiver that gets over 1,000 yards with 1/4 of the games coming from Palko, should be a Pro-Bowl player by default.
He’s the best wide receiver in the NFL as long as you don’t throw to his weak spot.
His hands.
A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.
by Zayla on Feb 11, 2012 11:53 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
where did you get that stat?
Last I saw, he wasn’t in the top 10 in drops
by stagdsp on Feb 11, 2012 12:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I don't believe he got it anywhere. Unless...
Perhaps he pulled it out of his ass?
Ridiculous that fans still complain about his “drops”. What the hell have they been smoking snorting ingesting injecting watching?
And, seeing your response below, Ram.. I direct you to the above link which also includes ‘catchable’ passes, and drop RATE.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
by ArrowSpread on Feb 11, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Or, response above*, it seems...
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
by ArrowSpread on Feb 11, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
Not putting it into the proper context
That being, how many of those drops were realistically catchable in the first place.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
by ArrowSpread on Feb 11, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm gonna say most of them
The guy drops some ridiculously easy catches. Other times he completely disappears from games. I’m not saying he isn’t a good receiver, just think we as Chiefs fans rate him a little higher than he should be
Besides Tony G
Bowe is the best target a Chiefs QB has had, that i can remember.
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Feb 11, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Almost all of Bowe's drops
are realistically catchable, thats what is so frustrating with him, he will make the impossible catch and drop the easy catch
That's simply not true.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
by ArrowSpread on Feb 11, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If he drops it out of his hands, it is true with a good wide receiver.
However, he is still good due to the fact of some of the impossible catches he makes which makes up for the drops. Drops are drops but does not dispute the fact whether or not he is good, because he is IMHO.
Are you sure?
not dispute the fact whether or not he is good, because he is IMHO.
;)
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 11, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
Well I watched
him drop the TD pass that probly would have won the division and put us in the playoffs
by badassz1987 on Feb 11, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
No actually he didn't
re-watch in slow mo, the Oakland defender has his hand wrapped around Bowe’s left arm and the ball bounces off his right.
I miss Will Shields and Wille Roaf
by Chiefs3188 on Feb 11, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Huh, he wasn't in the bottom 15 of the league in 2010, either
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/05/23/drop-percentage/
Cumulative numbers from 2008-2010 tell a different tale, unfortunately. But he’s shown plenty consistency in 2010 and 2011, and deserves to paid.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
by ArrowSpread on Feb 11, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Heh poor Bradford
STL had WR’s that were 3rd and 5th worst on that drop rate chart.
Get that guy someone to throw to.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
by TRSChief on Feb 11, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
careful everyone
don’t step in Dabollshit
by tomachop on Feb 11, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Despite the drops, he is at least a top 15 WR in the league
No one is saying he is Fitz, Andre, Megatron, or the other couple of elite WRs, but as our top receiver, and again, a top 10-15, I think he is rated just right around here
I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.
by RememberDelaney37 on Feb 11, 2012 12:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He is absolutely a top 15 WR, but the problem is he is going to want top 3 money, and I don't know if he is consistent enough.
If I am Pioli, I franchise Bowe and make him prove it one more year.
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I think part of it is the bad QBs
His drops seemed to disappear when Orton came around, now is that a coincidence I don’t know.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 11, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If you every wonder where the term longneck came from.
Look no further than Collinsworth.
by Mr.Pibbs on Feb 11, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
and Im sure Bowe is so hurt by the fact that Collinsworth doesnt respect him
-After this OC fiasco if the Chiefs dont WIN a playoff game in 2012 FIRE SCOTT PIOLI-
-Kool Aid drinking Cassel Believer-
(7-9) My record of picking Chiefs games before the season
(12-4) My Chiefs before the season prediction
Thunder Win-Loss 2011-2012 record (52-14)
Western division champs
NBA Champs over Miami Heat
Bowe would benefit from a QB that would get in his ass
when he drops passes….Chiefs need a LEADER on offense…thats just ANOTHER knock i have on Cassel…Cassel is a little soft and wont go off on a guy for making a mistake…
I hate saying this because its been beaten to death….but a veteran QB like Manning would demand more from his offensive teammates….as a reciever, you dont want to come bck to the huddle to face Manning after you just dropped a TD pass that hit you in the chest…..
Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli need to IMPRESS me in 2012....No Settling this year Chiefs Fans!!
Toughness, huh?
That guy apparently doesn’t know that Bowe led all receivers in yards after contact in 2011. Not yards after catch, but yards after contact. Hell, he probably had more than any of our RBs had last year in that category.
1. David DeCastro (Stanford- guard) 2. Nick Foles (Arizona- quarterback) 3. Hebron Fangupo (BYU- nose tackle) 4. Derek Wolfe (Cincinnati- defensive end) 5. Brandon Taylor (LSU- safety) 6. Tom Compton (South Dakota- offensive tackle) 7. Tyler Urban (West Virginia- tight end)
by kc_radrh8r on Feb 11, 2012 12:57 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah there are some legitimate knocks you can make on Bowe
But toughness, esp as a WR, isn’t one of them.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
by TRSChief on Feb 11, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Average #1
Bowe ranked between 10-20th in receptions, yards and yards per game. But tied for 45th in touchdowns last year. And he has a reputation for concentration lapses and attitude problems. He’s a middle-of-the-pack #1 wide receiver.
And as a team, we’ve won AT MOST ONE GAME PER YEAR AGAINST TEAMS WITH WINNING RECORDS SINCE 2007.
Neither he nor the team deserves much more respect than they are getting.
That of course has nothing to do with the QB situation
Nope, WRs aren’t affected by how good or bad a QB is.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 11, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
He's a borderline #2 receiver who's earned this reputation
Disappears in big games, way too many drops still plagues him. He’s the one I would let go. The Cleveland media loves him, let them have him. I’ll take someone with surer hands in FA. Keep Carr, let Bowe go to the most ridiculous bidder and get his replacement. I like Colston and Laurent Robinson a lot and there are a lot of receivers worth looking at if we can’t get them (Vincent Jackson, Stevey Johnson, Brandon Lloyd).
If Bowe signs (and I think he will) it will really excite me about Pioli's message;
and not only that, it shows us that players WANT to play for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Think about all the good/great WR talent Pioli has been around. And that talent has almost always been on Pioli’s team for multiple seasons. Not that he made any or all of those decisions, but it is the way he has been programmed to win.
Here’s a list: Troy Brown, David Givens, Deion Branch, Terry Glenn, Keyshawn Johnson, Derek Alexander
You could also add Moss and Welker too if you wanted.
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 11, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
Bowe will be a Chief next year
There is no question.
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by ExRoyalsFan on Feb 11, 2012 2:33 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
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by LadyChief on Feb 11, 2012 3:17 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
“I hear ya Rodney.”
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 11, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
I don't completely agree or disagree with some of this
the toughness thing is crap, but Bowe can physically dominate the field and be a superstar. And then there are times when he disappears and becomes a liability, especially at times when we need him most.
I don’t see Bowe being a leader or a mentor. I see him as needing a leader and a mentor. Just my personal opinion. I do hope we resign him, I’d Like to see what Daboll can come up with for the “Killer-B’s.” Hoping Bowe continues to progress, he has the talent to be a household name. Just needs that elite focus….
Dx3: Draft David DeCastro
hes inconsistent, and id use poor qb play as a reason, but he has some drops, that just make you want to kick him
the 5 yard wide open not even running hook route where he just drops it….kills me.
there is a definite lack of concentration at times, but im not so sure about questioning his toughness, if thats just from collinsworth and that overthrown pass….cmon.
still though, i have no issues with moving bowe off the chiefs in the near future in order to keep carr if thats how it must happen
i have faith in breaston, and baldwin was a 1st rounder
Pay Brandon Carr/ Pay Colquitt
Team Colquitt
He's played with some terrible QBs and one ave one
the guy is a very talented WR. who cares what some hack in chicago said. we need him back. the pats and 49ers would love to have him, they dont have a quality WR like this and it showed.
by Arrowhead25 on Feb 11, 2012 4:33 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Chiefs fans are so desperate
that they think Bowe is great because he provides an occasional big play, one of the few players we had that could do that the last season. But he’s way overrated by us and probably will be by some other time. Let them overpay for him and let us pick up a much more consistent team player such as Marques Colston or Laurent Robinson (or both). I just looked up Bowe for consistency at fftoday, and he was ranked below Nate Washington and only two spots ahead of Torrey Smith,a rookie who the Chiefs passed on drafting because of their love affair with Baldwin. Smith definitely outperformed Baldwin. Hopefully, yearn two is much better for him otherwise we’re in for another crappy year of production from our WRs. Of course there is the Cassel problem. With Orton slinging the rock, we would have much better productivity.
Agree on Orton.
I think we will see greatness out of Baldwin in the future. Breaston had a pretty good year, last year, and should be much better this year.























