How the Chiefs Should Handle A Very Important Off Season
The Kansas city Chiefs, New coach and all, need to win, and they need to win now. Their star players, Jamaal Charles, Derrick Johnson, Brandon Flowers, Brandon Carr, Tamba Hali, and Dwayne Bowe are all in their prime. The 2012-2013 has to be the Chiefs big year, the year where they can become a well known, elite team in the NFL. The draft is loaded with their main needs (OT, QB, NT) and the free-agency market is also has a lot of good players who should catch the Pioli's eye. This here, is an in-depth post, on how the Chiefs should handle the biggest off season they have had in years.
And yes, it is my last post about it in a while ;)
Coaching Staff:
With Bill Muir Retiring, The Chiefs now officially have an opening at The Offensive Coordinator Position. There's a ton of speculation on who is in the running for the job. First, it was Brian Daboll, There were reports they were interested in Mike Sherman, but he was hired by the Dolhpins, and now, today there were reports from Adam Teicher, saying that Jim Zorn was interviewed by the Chiefs for the opening, and wants the job. I'd say that the Chiefs are likely to promote Jim Zorn to Offensive Coordinator, and I think they should. So that is taken care of.
If Zorn is the Offensive Coordinator, that leaves an opening in the Quarterbacks Coach. Honestly, I'm not sure who is out there in the QB's coach department, but I imagine Zorn could possibly keep his role there, too. The Chiefs have other openings, such as Offensive Line Coach, and Wide Receivers coach. I don't really know who's out there, but I imagine they would find somebody good for the job.
That leaves Romeo Crennel as the Head Coach, and also calling the defensive Plays. Crennel said himself he would call the plays, so I imagine he would name himself the Defensive Coordinator, or Cornerbacks coach Emmit Thomas would get the job. But it will come from inside the organization. Then lastly, Jim Zorn is the Offensive Coordinator.
Re-Signings:
I won't go way too far into this, but if your looking for that, here is my post, on their re-signing their own free agents (Here) But Here are the Players I think should Be Re-signed.
Brandon Carr CB Dwayne Bowe WR
Le'Ron Mcclain FB Jackie Battle RB
Wallace Gilberry DE Javon Belcher MLB
Amon Gordon DE Jon Mcgraw SS
Travis Daniels CB Barry Richardson OT (depth)
Note: I would have QB Kyle Orton on this list, but I have another QB being signed in free agency. If they do not sign that particular QB, I would want Kyle Orton back in Kansas City.
Free Agency Signings:
QB Peyton Manning- With questions on Manning leaving Indy, It seems pretty clear that he will either be retiring, or playing for another team next year. Just yester, Manning had said that he has "No plans on retiring" so I guess he isn't reitiring! I would Love to see Manning as a Chief for the reasons In My Post About Peyton Manning Here. There is not an elite QB that is on the market that can take us to a Super Bowl, other than Manning. That is why I think Manning would be a great 2-3 year answer for the Chiefs, and he'd put Ricky Stanzi under his wing, and maybe have him ready for when Manning is done.
RB Benjarvus Green-Ellis- Although the Chiefs have star RB Jamaal Charles coming back this year off of injury, they need someone to share carries with Charles just as Thomas Jones did in 2010. That year they had the #1 ranked running game in the NFL. Green-Ellis can run in between the tackles, break tackles, and if Charles was to have another injury, Green-Ellis would definitely be able to carry the load for the Chiefs offense. Plus, he has the "Patriot Connection"!
(If Dwayne Bowe is not re-signed)
WR Pierre Garcon- If Dwayne Bowe in fact is re-signed, then this would not be necessary, But if not, Garcon would be a great pickup. The Colts have a ton of people to re-sign, and They may not have room for Garcon. Also, If the Chiefs bring in Manning, there would be even more interest on both ends, the Chiefs and Garcons, to get a deal done. It is a lot of "if's" But it's pretty convincing. Also, if the Chiefs bring in Manning, and Bowe isn't re-signed, WR Reggie Wayne would be interesting also, since Manning and Wayne have had both of there best seasons together.
DE Jon Abraham- Abraham is by far the Falcons best pass rusher, but they may not give him the big Check he demands. They also have to re-sign Brent Grimes,Harry Douglass, and Kroy Biermann. He would be a great pickup for the Chiefs, and would be a terrific compliment to the Chiefs growing Pass rush with Justin Houston and Tamba Hali. The Chiefs have the money to pay for him, and Abraham should be interested since he would be with Tamba, and Houston also. If signed, the Chiefs would have a very dynamic Pass rush that would cause major problems for the opposing offenses.
TE Scott Chandler- Chandler is a TE who would fit great with Tony Moeaki next year. The Chiefs would then have by far, the best Passing game in tyhe NFL. Chandler scores a lot of Touchdowns, and Moeaki catches a lot of balls, for a lot of yards, With those 2 at TE, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, and Mayo at WR, the Chiefs Passing game would be incredibly hard to stop.
A lot of readers want the Chiefs to sign Guard Carl Nicks,but I think the Chiefs are all set there, with Ryan Lilja and Jon Asamoah. Lilja is going into the last year of his contract and may be released this off season, but If not I think They are all set at the Guard position and Lilja's replacement should be taken care of through the draft.
But if the Chiefs sign these players this free agency, that gives them a lot of options in the 2012 draft.
2012 Draft:
1. Jonathan Martin OT Stanford- Even with the off season signings, the Chiefs would be smart to draft Jonathan Martin. He's an athletic tackle who fits their offensive Line scheme, and would protect whoever their QB will be next year. Barry Richardson needed to be replaced, and with this pick, he will be replaced.
2. Vontaze Burfict MLB Arizona State- Not many AP readers really like this pick, but I think it would be very smart. With Derrick Johnson, Tamba Hali, Justin Houston, and then Vontaze Burfict, they would have the most athletic Linebacking corp in the NFL. Also, they'd have solid backups in Javon Belcher and Brandon Siler. There are major cautions on Burficts attitude and temper, but I think if, and when he can keep his emotions under control, he could be a major dynamic in the Chiefs young, growing defense.
3. Kendall Reyes NT Connecticut- To Make the Chiefs defensive line complete, they need a good, quality Nose Tackle. Kelly Gregg didn't fill in too great for the Chiefs after being a pretty big off season pickup, and rookie Jerrell Powe was barely on the active roster on each sunday for every game. Kendall Reyes would be able to come in, and play pretty much right out of the gate, and if Reyes and Powe can both develop, they would be able to have a great rotation at the NT position for a long time.
4. Senio Kelemete OG Washington- Starting guard, Ryan Lilja is aging, and his production cut down this past year and wasn't playing as well as expected. The good thing about drafting Kelemente, is that if Lilja isn't playing well enough, he would be able to take his place, and possibly start. Kelemente could be the long term answer after Lilja is gone, and he would really be a steal at this late in the draft.
5. Jamell Fleming CB Oklahoma- The Chiefs have one of the best CB duo's in the NFL with Brandon Flowers and Brandon Carr, but after that there is a minor drop off. Then, there is Javier Arenas who has struggled all year, and was picked on by QB's every game. He is far from terrible, but he is an average #3 CB. Jalil Brown hasn't gotten much playing time in his rookie season and was a 4th round pick, and Travis Daniels, who has played pretty well in the Nickel, should stay where he is, in the Nickel. Because Daniels is very affective there. With Flemming, Daniels, Brown, and Arenas, they would have strong depth at the CB position.
6. William Vlachos C Alabama- With C Casey Weigmann most likely retiring this off season, Rodney Hudson is likely to be his replacement. That means that there is right now as the depth chart stands, no backup for 2nd year Center Hudson. The Chiefs most likely would look to free agency for a backup, and then I'd have them drafting Vlachos from Alabama for depth, because that is exactly what the Chiefs need on their offensive line.
7. Thomas Mayo WR California PA- Reports from the Senior Bowl said that the Chiefs were very interested in Mayo. Mayo had a good 2012 season and is very underrated in this draft. If the Chiefs can grab a steal here, then Scott Pioli would look like a genius.
Depth Chart:
After this off season, This is how the Chiefs depth Chart will look like:
Quarterback:
1. Peyton Manning
2. Ricky Stanzi
3. UDFA/Minor FA pickup
Running Back:
1. Jamaal Charles
2. Benjarvus Green-Ellis
3. Jackie Battle
4. Dexter Mccluster
Tight End:
1. Tony Moeaki
2. Scott Chandler
3. Anthony Becht
Wide Receivers:
1. Dwayne Bowe
4. Thomas Mayo
5. Dexter Mccluster RB/WR
Offensive Line:
LT- Brandon Albert
LG- Ryan Lilja
C- Rodney Hudson
RG- Jon Asamoah
RT- Jonathan Martin
Defensive Line:
RE- Jon Abraham, Allen Bailey
DT- Kendall Reyes, Jerrell Powe, Amon Gordon
LE- Glenn Dorsey, Wallace Gilberry, Amon Gordon
Linebackers:
ROLB- Tamba Hali, Andy Studebaker
MLB- Derrick Johnson, Vontaze Burfict, Javon Belcher, Brandon Siler
LOLB- Justin Houston, Cameron Sheffield
Cornerbacks:
1. Brandon Flowers
2. Brandon Carr
3. Jamell Fleming
4. Travis Daniels (Nickel)
5. Jalil Brown
SS:
1. Eric Berry
2. Jon Mcgraw
FS:
2. Free Agent
KR:
1. Javier Arenas
2. Dexter Mccluster
PR:
1. Javier Arenas
2. Steve Breaston/Dexter Mccluster
To me, this roster here, looks like a Super Bowl contending team. The Offensive Line is stellar, the We have a great TE duo, the defensive line is good, We have a great Line backing corp, and the Corner backs are even better than last year! If Scott Pioli and Romeo Crennel can handle this off season just like this, The Kansas City Chiefs can establish themselves as a team that can compete for a Super Bowl.
A Look At Next Years Opponents:
Since the season is over, we now know the teams that the Chiefs will Play next year, and we know where the game will be too. We just do not know when the games will be. Since the opponents have not been well advertised by the NFL, here are the teams the Chiefs will play next year, and where it will be.
Home Games- Denver, Oakland, San Diego, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Atlanta, Carolina
Road Games- Denver, Oakland, San Diego, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, New Orleans, Tampa Bay
The Chiefs schedule isn't close to as bad as last year, but it still can be decently hard, assuming most of the teams play around the same level of skill as last year.
Well, if I was Scott Pioli I would try to handle this off season this way, or very close to it. The Chiefs have the money, and the players could see Kansas City as a good place to come to given the great fan base we have here in Kansas City. Leave all your comments thoughts, opinions and anything else down in the comment section, and let me know what you think of the post!
Go Chiefs!!!
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Aaron, I disagree with some of your signings and free agency moves, and as you were writing this the whole Al Saunders thing came up so he left out of the discussion, but ...
absolutely, positively full-blown trainwreck of one helluva great freaking awesome job lots n lots n lots of time and damned hard work post you done did here … major major props, dude
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Thanks ups! Appreciate it!
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
by AaronMannicci on Feb 1, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
Why again are you dumping Tyson Jackson
For a 4-3 DE at that? Dirk Koetter is a qb coach that may be available. Jeff Rutledge is another
Carpe Diem
Jon Abraham has played 3-4 and 4-3 and has been good playing in both. and I think we should dump Tyson, because he still struggles to get any pressure whatsoever on the QB, and doesn’t make any tackles on runs either. Plus, When I did that I meant to say that we traded him for 2013 picks, becuase I had us trading him after the draft.
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
Cassel is released. No one will trade for a QB, when they know that your going to release him since you have 2 starters on 1 roster. So they will just wait until you release him.
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
by AaronMannicci on Feb 1, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, I have Cassel released.
I would rather trade him, but teams will not trade for a QB, when they know you will release him if there are no trade offers. No team will trade for him, they would wait until he is released.
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
by AaronMannicci on Feb 1, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Tyson's job
Is to take up blockers so Jutsin Houston can pressure the qb. Should we dump Glenn Dorsey? He is even less of a threat. Tyson isn’t goign anywhere anyway, Dorsey would be far more likely to be trade bait.
Carpe Diem
That isn't Tysons only job.
When you want to have one of the best defense in the league, you want your DE’s to take up blockers, and also make tackles, and bring pass rush.
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
by AaronMannicci on Feb 1, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
And on 3rd downs
We run a 2-4-5 and Tyson and Dorsey (who you seem to ignore in this argument) come out for Gilberry/Gordon/Bailey combination.
Pipe dream if you think Pioli is gettign rid of Tyson anytime soon.
Carpe Diem
What Texan said
And also, if we trade any DE it should be Dorsey. Him and T-Jax are equals against the run, despite the fact that T-Jax sees way, way, WAY more double teams than Dorsey.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
But Tyson Jackson doesn't rush the QB, like ever.
Abraham would play OLB.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 2, 2012 8:18 AM CST up reply actions
Which would put Houston back on the bench
and that is a terrible idea
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
WTF are you expecting to do with John Abraham!
If you don’t mind my asking, lol.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 1, 2012 8:52 PM CST reply actions
What am I expecting to do with him? This:
Last year he had 35 tackles, 9.5 sacks, and 4 forced fumbles.
Here are Tyson Jackson stats:
55 tackles, 1 sack, 0 forced fumbles.
Yeah you can argue that he has 20 more tackles, but also, when Abraham has attention taken off of him with Hali and Houston around him, he will do even better.To me He is iust by far the Well rounded, better player.
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
by AaronMannicci on Feb 1, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
2 compleley different roles
Please learn the difference between a 4-3 DE and a 3-4 DEbefore posting such foolishness.
Carpe Diem
That's... not what I meant.
I mean where do you want to put him? Tyson Jackson is a good 3-4 defensive end. He doesn’t get sacks because that’s not his job. John Abraham is much too small to play DE in our system, not good enough against the run. The only way he fits in our defensive scheme is to have him playing OLB, replacing Hali or Houston.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 1, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
he'd be an expensive backup
unless we decide to just rush all 11 guys …
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Ha I swear I saw somewhere that 60% of the time it works 100% of the time
little homie =) Not too unlike Sex Panther cologne.
Dx3: Draft David DeCastro
Oh, sorry I thought you meant it in a different way.
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
by AaronMannicci on Feb 2, 2012 6:31 AM CST up reply actions
but Abraham doesn't make plays on runs
55>35.
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Feb 2, 2012 5:29 AM CST up reply actions
Here is an article you should read
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=smith_michael&id=1946758
Stats don’t mean anything in this kind of Defense when you talk about the DL. The desirable size of a 3-4 DE is roughly 6-4 290lbs.
Tyson Jackson: Age 25, 6-4 296lbs / John Abraham: Age 33, 6-4 263lbs
OLB’s get the glamor stats in the 3-4. They’re desirable size is roughly 6’2-6’3 and between 250-270lbs. Tamba Hali is 6’3 275, Lamarr Woodley is 6-2 265.
These stats don’t lie. Abraham is old, too small for the 3-4 (as a DE), and is better suited for playing in the 4-3. Which is why he is. Also, from Rotoworld,
“Abraham was essentially the Falcons’ lone effective pass rusher this season despite spending most of the year on a snap count. He tallied a team leading 9.5 sacks. If Abraham is brought back, it will most likely be as a pass-rush specialist, and not an every-down player.”
To me this says his age is catching up and although he’s still productive, he’s not getting any younger. Trading or releasing a quality, true 3-4 DE for an aging, undersized 4-3 DE who’s not expected to even play in 3 consecutive downs, is a bad move IMO.
Dx3: Draft David DeCastro
this one is just as good ... nah, it's BETTER! from your shot, shotty ... and major props both here AND there :-) HOMIE!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80d6974b&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I thought I was your homie, DJ???
That hurts me in my heart. I think I shall go cry now. :=(
A Dog's Heart
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by LocoLoboChico on Feb 2, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
That's an even better article there, Der Kommissar
It gots purty pictures and purty play diagrams and everything. Really muy HELLA kickass for a no-nuthin flower child like me. I might even bookmark it? But I already know ALLS about it though. ;=)
Guten Abend, Kommissar. :=)
A Dog's Heart
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
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by LocoLoboChico on Feb 2, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, Shotty ... you post some good stuffs.
You do research and post links, ect. I’m too damn lazy, and gots too many other responsibilities to do research an post links. My drab, boring never-ending story, that nobody-ever-reads (and I would consider them either very nutzzz, or extremely bored if they did) posts are purely, wildly speculative, unsupported, unreliable geysers that go off here and there sporadically. I write them for my own egocentric, narcissistic, cathartic, “put my wackooo thoughts down on electronic paper” … you see. I do it all for my art, baby! AP, and a couple of wildlife and nature blogs, are purty good for those stuffs fer moi.
Anywhoo … you write purty good stuffs. Unlike the swollen, red-lipped, overly-polished, white-toothed KGB embedded mole up there. Have a nice evening. :+)
A Dog's Heart
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
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by LocoLoboChico on Feb 2, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
Uhhh ... this guy better research the other 3-4 scheme after this erroneous statement:
All 3-4 teams use some style of the “two-gap” technique
Has this dude ever heard of Bum and Wade Phillips’ 1-gapping 3-4 D? Like Dallas runs … or, err … did run until last season? And now Houston runs. Other than that, good article.
A Dog's Heart
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
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by LocoLoboChico on Feb 2, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
Burfict
I am a Grad Student at ASU and after watching Vontaze play for the past few years, I can assure you that it is not a good idea for us to draft him. He has a terrible attitude (multiple personal fouls per game) takes plays off, and is flat out lazy. While you can make a decent highlight reel with his big hits, that is by far not the majority of his game. To be perfectly honest, he looks slow in game. Bad idea, unless it is a 3rd round pick, similar to Houston’s value.
yah, read something the other day in fanshots ...
according to a reporter at the Sr Bowl, many scouts say he doesn’t take the time to learn the plays or his assignments
really one I’d pass on
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Yeah ... but he shor did show what he's ...
capable of when he ripped my Trojans a new one. (le sigh) Anywhoo … let Baltimore draft him and Ray Ray continue mentoring him. Or, OTOH … Baltimore might steal Hightower from us! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! ;=)
A Dog's Heart
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
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by LocoLoboChico on Feb 2, 2012 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
Aaron, Dude ... not to be a know-it-all prick
cuz my opinions ain’t facts nor necessarily truths. But Reyes is either a 5-tech DE, or a 3-tech DT (or maybe 1-tech … whatevers?). He’s not in any way, shape nor form a 2-gap NT. Just read all the scouting reports for closer to the truth and facts, my man. :+)
And Abraham is a 4-3 DE pass-rusher. We run a 2-gap, 3-4 – so he’s not a match for RAC’s system either. Now if RAC wanted to convert to hybrid 4-3/3-4 D like Hoodie did by bringing in 4-3 DE pass-rushers … then yeah … but I don’t think he’s going to do that. ;+)
We’re just now getting ave/above ave. play from T-Jax last season; finally drafted a true 2-gap NT in Powe (whether he ever becomes a productive 2-down starter or not for us); and signed an old, haggard NT in Gregg, but still our first true 2-gap NT nonetheless. I still think Dorsey (as much as I respect and like the guy) is a weak link – along with NT (unless Powe blossoms). So does a versatile “tweener” like Bailey maybe replace Dorsey as a 1-gapping penetrator … while our NT draws double-teams away from him; i.e.; one-on-one match-ups like he has for Dorsey? Do we bring Gordon back as a swing lineman? Do we bring Gilberry back for our nickel-rusher? What’s the story with holding onto Brandon Bair (except for his first name suiting the team) … with a build of 6’7-273, and was a pass-rusher at Oregon … I don’t know?
However, I think RAC is adapting and transitoning to a more versatile version of a pure 2-gap 3-4. But I don’t think RAC is going to switch to a 1-gap attacking Bum Phillips 3-4, nor much of a 3-4/4-3 hybrid like Rexy Ryan and Hoodie has anytime soon. BTW: good post. :+)
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Yeah I guess your right.
I personally think that he’d be good here, because he has played the 3-4 before, and was good there, but I think we need a replacemtn at DE for dorsey, or jackson. We can’t have Houston and Tamba doing all the work, because they can’t every single game.
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
by AaronMannicci on Feb 2, 2012 6:30 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah Aaron, if I thought Pioli was going to get a new OG or OT FA ...
I’d be all in on Pioli going hog wild on D the first three rounds to almost finish our defensive half of the equation … and based on Pioli’s stated desire for the long-term team building thru the draft strategy. For 2-gap, 3-4 DE’s, I like …
1) Micheal Brockers: DT, LSU, 6’6-306, for replacing Dorsey in the 1st round. He’s a damn good prospect for a 2-gapping 5-tech 3-4 DE. He possesses the highest ceiling, and is already a great run-stuffer from Day 1. He’s still a little raw in techniques at pushing/collapsing the pocket with his bullrush, but he has the athleticism to become damn good at that as well. I hesitate to say his ultimate potential is Seymour-like, but I think it could be Calais Campbell-esque.
2) My alternate pick would Devon Still: DT, Penn St., 6’5-310, in the1st rd. Still has good potential for a 2-gapping, 5-tech DE. He just needs to prove he has the passion and motor to put his complete game together, and keep it there in the NFL! Still really showed what he could be last season. But, hey … I like the BIG guys for 2-gappers … like the Ravens (although they run a hybrid 3-4 with 4 DL’men fronts a good part of the time too), Jets, Dolphins, Cowboys, Redskins do.
Possible high-rd. NT picks are pretty slim. But …
1) Josh Chapman: DT/NT, Alabama, 6’1-310, is my personal fave. He’s a little light, but his height actually can give him an advantage with leverage. And has the legs, hips and lower body power that remind me of the hindquarters of a draft horse, lol; he can really plant and hold double teams. He has the most polished at 2-gapping, run-stuffing techs. But he doesn’t possess any kind of bullrush for helping push/collapse the pocket really. Chapman is high floor but low ceiling. He kinda reminds me of a young Kelley Gregg. I could see him still there in the 3rd maybe.
2) A very raw prospect in techs, but is loaded with athleticism and tools for his size, is Dontari Poe: DT, Memphis, 6’5-350. He could be an immovable wall in a 2-gapping NT. But his athleticism and tools could make him better suited for a 1-gapping, 4-3 NT that can shoot the gaps on the pass-rush. This could make him a very attractive prospect to 4-3 D based team instead. He kinda reminds me of a Shaun Rogers, Haynesworth, Phil Taylor type 4-3 DT. However, he’s very raw in run-stuffing AND pass-rushing techniques, and thus very much a “developmental” prospect. A team that loves the muy gianormous 4-3 DT’s, and whas the luxury of developing him, could reach on him in the 2nd rd., but I bet he falls to the 3rd rd. like Kendrick Ellis did last year. OTOH, one could give him the benefit of the doubt that he’d develop very quickly with NFL coaching … cuz the Memphis program really sucks.
3) The third possible 2-gapping NT is Alameda Ta’amu: DT, Washington, 6’3-337. But he’s shown to be a better 1-gapping, run-stuffing and 1-gap shooting pass rusher. He has size and strength in his upper body, but he’s a little small and light in the hips and legs. He’s kind of an intriguing versatile “tweener.” He could be a very good muy gigantico 2-gapping, 3-4 DE. He has the ability to cover his gaps run stuffing, but he can crush the pocket on the pass-rush. Alameda has some has techs issues to correct and polish up with NFL coaching. But he could be sought after by a 4-3 D team as a DT, or possibly as a 3-4 NT/DE prospect for a team that uses kind of shaded 1-gapping attacking schemes like the Packers, 49ers, Chargers do. But I just don’t see him as a pure 2gap, 3-4 NT. (shrug)
A Dog's Heart
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
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by LocoLoboChico on Feb 2, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah Aaron, I hear ya on the concern about depth on our 3-4 OLB front.
1) Sheffield: He’s still raw, and I have no idea what his ultimate potential might be? He showed some run support capability early on last season. And, he also got some pressures pass-rushing (but no sacks) early on, too. A run-stuffing DE was his strong point at Troy, and pass-rushing was his 2nd best skill, IIRC (don’t know anything about his coverage abilities while playing for Troy). I still think Sheff has the potential to be a capable back-up for both Houston and Tamba. But he’s probably more suited to be Houston’s back-up at SOLB.
2) Gabe Miller: I don’t have ANY idea about what he could become as a OLB back-up for us. I just only know he was a quick-twitch athlete with a good pass-rush DE for Oregon back in 2010. I have no idea how good he was run-stuffing and coverage for them? I don’t know because I never have read any scouting reports on him … since he totally came out of the blue on me. I think he’s just a very raw, good all-around athlete pick for Pioli. Maybe he’s a possible back-up for Houston, or maybe for Tamba? Or he just becomes a solid ST player. Or he washes out?
3) We always have our good ol’ stand-by in Hot Rod the Stud Studebaker to back up Houston. I don"t know … maybe Pioli/Crennel talks Vrabel out of retirement? It wouldn’t surprise me.
Anywhoo, I share your concern about our OLB depth as well. We have one raw developmental project; one extremely raw (since he hasn’t played a down for us yet; as he was on IR last season); and a poor man’s Vrabel for our back-up SOLB and ST stud. Agreed – not very comforting at this point.
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by LocoLoboChico on Feb 2, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
How would you guys feel about going for
Freeney/Mathis??
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
It's the exact same thing, bro. Gotta get that through your head.
They can’t play DE in our system because they’re small, weak, and terrible against the run. They would have to play OLB.
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 2, 2012 8:14 AM CST up reply actions
Again, 4-3 DE's
They don’t fit anywhere on our defense other than as situational pass rushers in obvious passing situations.
Those two would get absolutely TRUCKED on running plays if they tried to be 3-4 DEs
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Okay, for anybody reading this, I stand corrected on the John Abraham thing.
I realized he’s too small, and he wouldn’t fit in our system.
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
The same can probably be said about Freeney/Mathis.
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a couple of problems
1) Before signing Peyton we’d need to know if he was even healthy enough to really play. If he isn’t then what do you do? I’d keep orton and draft a QB to groom (along with Stanzi). First I’d try to trade Cassel.
2) Zorn needs to go – he’s not effective at QB coach much less OC.
3) we need to draft an OG to replace Lilja.
I like the other moves, including Abraham – I think he is what makes that Falcons defense work and I think he would significantly upgrade the DL.
No, Abraham wouldn't.
HE DOESN’T FIT OUR SYSTEM DAMMIT!
by NigerianNightmare on Feb 2, 2012 8:15 AM CST up reply actions
I didn't realize how small he is
he’s listed at 256 lbs which is a bit small for a 3-4 DE. Too bad, I haven’t seen much out of Jacksonso it is an area of need (but not as much as OL).
Peyton...
might make a good coach, but the odds of him playing again are little to none. Even if he could come back I wouldn’t want him. He’s not going to be the same player. It’s hard to play with a little voice in the back of your head saying…( oh expletive, oh explative,oh explative…Harrison is going to kill me)
How the heck
Do we end up playing the NFC South? Shouldn’t the AFC West as the crappiest division, play the crappiest division in the NFC, also the West? And how do we end up playing the AFC North with Baltimore and Pitt again? Shouldn’t we play the South? Our schedule sucks!
There is a cycle between the divisions you play.
Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.
by AaronMannicci on Feb 2, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
I don't agree with some of your points
But this was an excellent, well thought out, well organized post. Nicely done on that front.
I disagree with you about T-Jax (from what I’ve seen in your comments). Hopefully, I’ll be able to re-up my “NFL Rewind” package soon so I can do a more in-depth analysis like I did with Dorsey/Bailey awhile back, but I’ll give a quick preview based on what I saw when I did the legwork on them…
(by legwork, I mean I looked at their in-depth ProFootballFocus stats, which breakdown every play. I then watched several hundred snaps specifically focusing on the D-line. While I was watching Dorsey and Bailey more closely, I was able to see some things about T-Jax as well. I tell you this only to add some credibility)
1) T-Jax is ridiculously solid against the run
2) T-Jax is a much, much better pass rusher than Dorsey
3) T-Jax does both of those things while seeing double teams throughout the game
So in other words, T-Jax plays better than Dorsey despite facing two blockers on many plays, while Dorsey is very rarely double teamed.
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