Norv Turner and Hooch


92 games in, and it's looks like San Diego is finally due for some Norv Turnover at the end of the season.

Norv Turner's record so far with San Diego is 53-39. He has taken the San Diego Chargers to six playoff games and won three of those contests. Seemingly, it seemed every single season the media declared San Diego a Super Bowl favorite. Was that declaration due to Norv and his head coaching abilities?

Probably not, because it also seemingly seemed that Norv Turner was on the hot seat every single season since Marty Schottenheimer was replaced after the 2006 season where the Chargers produced a record of 14-2 and fell short of reaching the ultimate prize when New England beat them by a mere three points at home in the playoffs, after a first round bye.

I'm not here to celebrate Norv Turner's tenure in San Diego. Ugh. I'm a Kansas City Chiefs fan, I despise Norv Turner and I was never very partial of seeing those close ups of his neck on the sidelines.

While I respect his offensive creativity, I've always thought he was in over his head as a head coach in the NFL. I don't think that I am alone in this thought process. San Diego fans have been clamoring for Norv to be replaced off and on since Marty was shown the door... and rightfully so, the guy doesn't seem to have what it takes to lead a team to the big game in the NFL.

Granted, as a Chiefs fan, I don't have much room to talk about wins and losses, much less what it takes to win the big one. Since 2007, the Kansas City Chiefs record is almost the exact opposite of Norv Turner's. Our favorite team hasn't won a playoff game in that stretch (not since Norv's NFL coaching career was knee high to a Cowboy), nor have they fielded a QB with the talent of Phillip Rivers. During his tenure, Norv's team was obviously the better squad overall. I should probably keep my mouth shut about things I know nary about.

However, this is Arrowhead Pride, Norv Turner is in the news, I have a big mouth and San Diego is a hated division rival. So, I'm a little worried about what this means for the Kansas City Chiefs moving forward.

I'm not just worried because our team is down in the dumps, reportedly, the San Diego Chargers are also going to fire their GM that always blows major decisions... A.J. Smith. Of course, this is AP, you want your sources (as if this won't be all over AP tomorrow.)

Source away:


I know reading those words puts a crooked smile on my face. I hate the Chargers. But is this a good thing? Since 2007, the San Diego Chargers have been an underachieving team. Thanks to the mismanagement by A.J. Smith in all things personnel and the lack of leadership of men, by Norv Turner.

Think about it, the Chargers have had the number one offense and the number one defense during that time in the same season (2010) and only managed to win nine games that year under Norv's expert tutelage. How the hell does that happen?

Norv Turner and A.J. Smith, that's how... Of course, the Chiefs did little to take advantage of their bumbling ways, but seeing a change on the horizon does not bode well for our future chances in Kansas City. The Chargers job will attract some attention, the media loves Phillip Rivers, it adores Antonio Gates, it will make those job openings seem like positions in heaven just opened up.

A lot of fans around here dream of Jon Gruden, Bill Cowher, Andy Reid, Mike Holgrem, Chip Kelly, Marty Schottenheimer and any other big name that they can find to replace Romeo Crennel. Scenario after scenario is thrown out there in hopes of something better to come along... Well, in San Diego, the hopes that we seek, will most likely become a reality and San Diego may actually become a football team that lives up to it's overblown potential for the first time since Marty was out there. That worries me a little.

But, at the same time, I like a challenge. The AFC West has 'Norv-turned' into the laughingstock of the NFL over the last decade. Sure, it produces a good team here and there, but overall, the division has been fairly Benny Hill recently. I'd like to see that change. In a perfect NFL for me, the AFC West would contain the four best teams in football every season. Instead, we have what we have... Sigh.

And where will Norv go from here?

I know a lot of fans will call for Norv Turner and his beautiful neck to come and coach the Chiefs offense. I know that I've said it before, and I've read it around AP over the years from other users; every time the annual fire Norv talks crested in San Diego.

Is that a feasible plan?

Could the Chiefs fans coexist with Norv Turner if he was actually calling the plays in Kansas City?

I don't know, what I do believe is that as a head coach, Norv Turner is in over his head. That said, as an offensive coordinator, he is one of the best in the NFL that will be available, if not a little overrated in some aspects. Some years he has the best offenses in the league, while others... he is in the middle of the pack depending on which team he was with over his career. See for yourself at PFR, it's interesting to look at his career as a head coach versus how he did as an offensive coordinator. At least, I thought it was interesting.

Regardless of where Norv ends up, or who replaces him in San Diego. I'm smiling this morning. Why? Because the Chiefs aren't the only team in the AFC West experiencing drama and heartbreak mixed with questions about the future. I hate the Chargers (have I mentioned I hate the Chargers) and they could have cut the cord long ago. Instead they stuck by the neck and it's been hilarious.

Just because I can, I will also throw a dig in at the Raiders. I hear they are courting Jon Gruden to be their coach... Didn't they just get another new coach five minutes ago... Wow! Of course, the Raiders reportedly refuted it. But just the fact that the Chiefs hated rivals are swimming in their own miserable seasons is somewhat redeeming to me.

Anyway, the Norv Turner - A.J. Smith era seems to be heading to a close. How do you feel about that Arrowhead Pride?


For you Hooch fans...

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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