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Could live with it with DeCastro gone

Assuming we keep Carr/Bowe

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 10:35 AM CST reply actions  

If we dont keep Carr,

Corner becomes a huge need, no way do I trust McDaniels and Arenas to cover on ever down.

by Huston09 on Jan 9, 2012 10:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

McDaniels?!

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Well he should know how to defend Tebow

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Of all the things we MAY do. I guaredamntee we will NOT be drafting a LT in round one!

Why? Well, why would we draft a LT that will take time to develop when we have a pretty damn good one already here?

Barry Richardson needs to be replaced. Brandon Albert does not.

Unless, I’m missing something from that Mock….

by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 9, 2012 10:37 AM CST reply actions  

Albert's entering the final year of his deal

And usually there’s a (relatively) low bust-rate with top-end LTs in the draft.

by Joel Thorman on Jan 9, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Martin/Reiff would be RTs for us

Which is a big hole we need to fill

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Can't expect the ''media'' to get everything right do ya?

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh noooooooooooooooooooooooes

The flood is be invading!

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Albert has never had any true competition at LT

I love the Martin pick…take him and grab another T in FA. Let them all push each other in camp and whatever OL ends up being is what it is. If Albert is anything more then average then he’ll be the starting LT, if not then he will be an elite G. Martin is not a developmental project as would be a player like Sanders from FSU who would probably have to start on the right side.

by AZDiamond75 on Jan 9, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, Albert's never had any "true" competition because teams with good left tackles tend to pick other positions in the first.

I guess that’s what you mean by “true” competition, right? A first round pick or free agent equivalent?

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by Brsrkr on Jan 9, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Somebody

not picked off the street…yes. The 2nd best T on the team is Richardson so that says a lot. I would love to know what really happened with Gaither.

by AZDiamond75 on Jan 9, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh, I think you'll keep saying Albert never has true competition unless someone actually beats him out.

I bet if we drafted Kalil and Albert beats him out, you’d say it wasn’t a true competition.

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by Brsrkr on Jan 9, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

That is not true

I’ll take even a 3rd or 4th round prospect…he’s only gone up against UFA…he’s never been pushed. We don’t know if Pioli has tried to replace him. There were rumors of us trying to sign a LT, but ended up with Gaither.

by AZDiamond75 on Jan 9, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

But do you count them as a bust if they have to move to another position to succeed?

I do. Gallery is a bust.

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by Brsrkr on Jan 9, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, especially considering how long it took him to get to a decent level, and how high he was picked

If he was picked at like 27th or where ever Bulaga was picked, and made the switch to RT then OG, and is now playing at a good level.. Not a bust

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe not a bust in monetary terms, but definitely a disappointment.

Left tackle is a more highly skilled position than right tackle. If you draft a guy to play left tackle and he can’t cut it, that’s a disappointment.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 9, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Even if he was an elite guard, if you drafted him that high to be LT and he failed it is a bust

If it was lower on to be RT but was better at G then not a bust

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I think if a guy isn't good at what you drafted him to be, then he can be labelled a bust.

Because you probably had a need at the position you drafted him for, so your plans get set back. Unless you just draft him as the BPA, I guess.

Bust Proof Mock:
1. BPA
2. SEC BPA
3. BPA
4. BPA
5. BPA @ PON
6. BPA
7. Succop

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by Brsrkr on Jan 9, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

A OT can turn into a great guard, a guard can turn into a good tackle

a DE can turn into a LB, etc.. as long as they have an impact then it’s not a huge loss. However if you pick a guy top 5 for one of the most important positions like LT/QB and they are not top 10 within a few years, bust and move on

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

LT is not a need - I think we will keep Albert since he's been a bright spot on this line

OG and RT however are huge needs – RT in particular. If Decastro is gone, then a T should be the pick. We do not need another LT.

Uhhh...I hate looking at the 1983 Draft and seeing 2 HOF'ers picked after our washed up QB pick.

by Ren on Jan 9, 2012 10:43 AM CST reply actions  

They would be RTs

RTs are becoming more important with all the blitz schemes defenses use, and with a lot of teams putting their best pass rusher on the RT on passing downs

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm fine as long as Richardson is replaced

Uhhh...I hate looking at the 1983 Draft and seeing 2 HOF'ers picked after our washed up QB pick.

by Ren on Jan 9, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Much rather have

the guy at No. 13 — Luke Kuechly…. stupid to pass on him.

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by SwimCoach on Jan 9, 2012 10:45 AM CST reply actions  

Have you explained why you see him as a SILB?

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

I see him as a guy who is

smart as hell and finds the ball. He was also the Butkus award winner. It’s like a guy that can play SS and 2nd base. They dont’ give a flip where they are, they are going to get that grounder and turn 2.

I think you are over thinking the differences between the two ILB spots. Can you explain why you think Luke Kuechly can’t be a positve addition over Belcher at the ILB position?

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by SwimCoach on Jan 9, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

He barely takes blocks, doesn't shed blocks which is what we REQUIRE in our scheme at SILB

Kuechly is a WILB in our defense, which we have covered with DJ

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

People said that about DJ too

DJ couldn’t shed blocks… always went around lineman to make tackles instead of through them. That was one of the big knocks on him. He has made adjustments. Who would you rather have, Kuechly or Belcher?

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by SwimCoach on Jan 9, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Burfict

Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.

by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 9, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I like Burfict too

but its looking like he’s going round 2.

My buddy is ASU season ticket holder. Says Burfict is a head case.

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by SwimCoach on Jan 9, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

I live in Scottsdale

Big head case….when he declared the media called it the best news ASU has heard in years….he is a beast though and ASU is a horrible program. Look at their hiring process…..hire Jones, fans don’t like it…so they renig on the offer….so then they hire Graham. I bet Balt takes him to replace Lewis

by AZDiamond75 on Jan 9, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

DJ is the WILB for a reason

Just like Kuechly, uses his speed to make plays flowing along the line instead of taking/sheding blocks to make the play.

Hightower

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Well I know your the AP Draft Expert

but I still think Kuechly fits the mold for our Defense and is a huge upgrade over Belcher. Playmakers are playmakers. You move EB to Corner… he would still ball it up.

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by SwimCoach on Jan 9, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Not really a draft expert haha

If we ran a system like Wade’s then Kuechly could work, I don’t see him working in ours though

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

SwimCoach, if the two ILBs were interchangeable, Demorrio would be starting over Belcher.

Belcher is where he is because size does matter. Demorrio is quicker and has much better football smarts, Belcher won that position battle simply because of size.

Kuechly would be an awesome guy to have on this team, but there’s just no starting spot for him right now.

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by Brsrkr on Jan 9, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

he'd start on the chiefs, I don't doubt that

And Belcher isn’t all that much bigger than kuechly. I expect to see Kuechly bulk up more anyways by the time the combine rolls around.

Smart instinctual players of Kuechly’s caliber tend to make the field no matter what. Ray Lewis was too undersized too IIRC.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 9, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Ray Lewis was undersized for a certain scheme.

They asked him to bulk up after the NFL made that awesome defense illegal by instituting holding calls on defensive linemen. He didn’t play well at the higher weight. Well, he didn’t play well compared to the old RayRay, he was still pretty damn awesome. Anyway, that lasted for a year or two and then he came back down to his old weight.

We’ve had this conversation before. If you can explain to me why Belcher started over Demorrio, other than size, then I’ll admit Kuechly might start over Belcher.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 9, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Belcher starts cause he is better at taking and shedding blocks

Which he is not even usually able to shed blocks quick enough to make the play, DW is a worse version of DJ who needs to stay clean to use his speed to make the play.. not take on blocks to shed them.

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep, I think Kuechly is a better version of DW/worse version of DJ.

But with slower skin.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 9, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I will definitely try.

Damn work, don’t know why I waste my time here. Oh, yeah, bills…..

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 9, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Lewis was considered undersized in general

Why 4(?) LBs went before him in the draft.

I think kuechly can do a better job at Belchers job than Belcher can, which is why I think he starts over him. He’s not the greatest at shedding blocks yet, but I think he can take on a variety of blockers just fine.

He’s at the very least an upgrade in tackling and pass coverage, can’t say the same of Demorrio.

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by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 9, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Lewis was considered slow. Still is. Nobody ever figured out how he makes plays.

Kuechly is an attractive prospect, but there are just so many other first round prospects that I think would have a bigger impact.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 9, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Slow and undersized yet instinctual and a great tackler

Sounds like Kuechly to me

I’d rather we chose somebody else to but I’m not ruling anybody out either, learned that much from the Baldwin pick.

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by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 9, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

What about Hightower

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by KingChief on Jan 9, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd rather take Hightower than Kuechly.

We need a run stopper, not a cover guy.

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by Falcon58 on Jan 9, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Hightower can do both

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

And Hightower is supposed to be purty good blitzer, too

ain’t he? I’m really big on getting Hightower if he’s still there in the 2nd … just because he could be a KICKASS SILB for us for years to come – not just a bit of an “upgrade.” I’m really beginning to hate that “upgrade” philosophy. We have to do something to stop being gashed by the run up the gut. I REALLY, REALLY still hope Powe will be a good NT for us. (keeping fingers crossed)

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by LocoLoboChico on Jan 9, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Hightower has done it all for 'Bama

Even more than McClain, Hightower has covered TEs/RBs/zone, blitzed, stacked and shed, etc

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Please no

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by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 9, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

really?

Have you ever seent his guy?

Captain, Butkus Award winner, high character, high football IQ, play maker.

You guys need to follow this guy more before you say no way.

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by SwimCoach on Jan 9, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh come on now, that hurt! :(

hahaha

I don’t see him as a SILB prospect, and there is no tape out there that shows him effectively doing the SILB job game after game.

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not looking for some high character, ACC nancy, choir boy at linebacker

I want the kind of crazed man that will shank a guy in a crowd and let his homeboy take the fall for it.

Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.

by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 9, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Burflict=Ray Lewis 2.0

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by KingChief on Jan 9, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Burfict=Smaller Suh

IF he can get his game undercontrol he has the tools to be a special player, if not.. he is just ruining his team

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

I think all of our high character guys could get his head right

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by KingChief on Jan 9, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

There are still a lot of issues with his game

Even with his head right I’m not sure I would be sold on him in the first

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Burfict was my pick

before I saw Luke Kuechly.

The only way I would take Burfict w/ the 12th pick is b/c I do believe Romeo, DJ, Hali, EB could put him in his place.

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by SwimCoach on Jan 9, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Where do you see Hightower?
  1. SILB prospect?

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I like Hightower

… don’t know about at No. 12. But if we can trade back like we did last year… heck ya.

I keep seeing Burfict in Round 2. Just something to keep a eye on although I don’t see him going past Eagles, Steelers, Chiefs, Ravens.

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by SwimCoach on Jan 9, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Who knows what the Eagles will do

Ravens/Steelers could be looking at Oline like Adams late in the first

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

true...

well all I am saying I have seen him slipping a lot in mock drafts.

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by SwimCoach on Jan 9, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree on Burfict. I think the only way we draft him is if he slips a lot, and impresses Pioli in the interview. Like Houston.

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by Brsrkr on Jan 9, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I like both of those guys and Hightower

but I honestly think we trade back again this year and pick up one of the 3 or Poe

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by KingChief on Jan 9, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

So Martin can play LT

but can he OR Albert play RT? Never hear that position named in scouting reports between the two

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by KansasCityShuffle on Jan 9, 2012 10:59 AM CST reply actions  

Martin would start at RT

Reiff’s ceiling IMO is RT, not LT

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

We want a mauler at RT

Damion McIntosh on the Dolphins secondary style. Everything I’ve read about Martin is his quick feet and finesse. Doesn’t sound like a prototypical RT to me

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by KansasCityShuffle on Jan 9, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

We need another Albert basically

A guy who can beast in the run game, can mirror in pass pro, and can also move. BRich is a mauler, but can not move his feet and mirror in pass pro.

IMO the days of 1 good pass protector, 1 good run blocker at OT is gone.

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I think tackles are like corners. An island guy and a guy who gets regular help.

You want one guy who can be on an island on the QB’s blindside. The other guy should be good, but you can count on him having help from the QB himself since he can see if that right tackle is getting beat.

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by Brsrkr on Jan 9, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

True

However we have seen offenses trying to get all 5 targets out in patterns while defenses sorta countered that by getting bigger and faster inside to attempt to get to the QB faster.

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I've got it! Move Barry to GUARD!

Seems like his natural position, doesn’t it?

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by Brsrkr on Jan 9, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Slow feet is a killer for a ZBS guard

Could work out for a power scheme though

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd be ok with this

But rather take rg3 . Take a gamble . Can’t be a whole lot worse than cassel , I’m sure he can at least be medicore .

by chiefsman! on Jan 9, 2012 11:10 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Wow, refreshing to see a mock that doesn't have us taking a Big 12 tackle.

This Bibber guy loves him some wide receivers.

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by Brsrkr on Jan 9, 2012 11:20 AM CST reply actions  

Meh...

I guess I could live with Martin… but I’d rather have:

Kirkpatrick or Jenkins if we lose Carr…

Hightower to replace Belcher…

Or trade down and grab….

Richardson to replace Jones…

Or Kendall Wright to replace Bowe…

Basically, our draft choice might be dictated by who we lose this offseason.

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by Falcon58 on Jan 9, 2012 11:34 AM CST reply actions  

You don'

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Fail.

You don’t say

Basically, our draft choice might be dictated by who we lose this offseason.

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 9, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

"stable of mediocre quarterbacks"

That’s really the key phrase in that mock draft. Someone explain again how we’re supposed to become an elite team again without an elite quarterback? We’d be better off drafting quarterbacks high in the draft each year (instead of drafting so many TEs high in the draft) until we come up with a franchise quarterback we can ride to Superbowl glory for a decade.

by Chief Farmer on Jan 9, 2012 11:39 AM CST reply actions  

Trade up 9 spots with MIN and take Griffen.

Please Scott, make it happen.

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by Tomahawk29 on Jan 9, 2012 11:41 AM CST reply actions  

I've got three choices if we stay at the 11/12 spot.

1. Riley Reiff- There’s nothing wrong with taking a RT in 1st if he becomes the best at that position. A mauler is what we need and would greatly benefit the running game.

2. David DeCastro- The whole “you don’t take a OG in the top half of the 1st round” is a BS theory if his ceiling is an All Pro year in and year out (especially with the rookie wage scale.) I love him as the potential at LG for the next 10-12 years.

3. Trent Richardson- This falls entirely into the “drafting the best player available” category. Obviously this is a luxury pick and not a need, but no one knows how Jamaal Charles will be when he returns and a potential combination of him and Richardson could be deadly. If Pioli upgrades the line during free agency, I wouldn’t be shocked if this was the pick.

by xg311 on Jan 9, 2012 12:37 PM CST reply actions  

I think that if we stay at 11/12 dratf slot..

I believe we should select David Decastro, because he has the potential to play 3 postions on the line and would start day 1 at left guard . I believe we can fine a starting right tackle and a good back-up RB in free agency….

Koolta: A die hard chiefs fan

by Kool TA on Jan 9, 2012 9:25 PM CST reply actions  

I wondered about that too.

It would be nice to find a FA right tackle.

by Super Gnat on Jan 10, 2012 1:56 AM CST up reply actions  

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