Josh McDaniels Expected To Return To Patriots
by Joel Thorman on Jan 7, 2012 11:31 AM CST
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PrintESPN's flurry of news on NFL Countdown included a Josh McDaniels update -- he's headed to New England. Adam Schefter reports McDaniels is expected to join the Patriots -- like, immediately -- and will be the offensive coordinator in 2012.
This sort of affects the Chiefs because they were one of the teams reported to be interested in McDaniels. We never got the confirmation that they were and we likely never will now.
The Patriots make more sense for McDaniels than KC (if the Chiefs were ever an option, which is debatable). He joins an offense that's still one of the best in the league and is reunited with the quarterback who has made Bill Belichick assistants millions and millions of dollars.
The Pats offensive coordinator job is open, of course, with Bill O'Brien headed to Penn State.
Oh to be a fly on the wall in the Chiefs offices to hear what they think about this...
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i doubt fans will be too disapointed
I’m fine with it… just glad Romeo is HC
by stagdsp on Jan 7, 2012 11:34 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I kinda am
He’s made both of our QBs look better than they actually are in the past.
Oh well, with this I kinda hope it’s Zorn now. I hate the revolving door of coaches in the offense though.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Since he left NE...
he failed in Denver and he failed in STL….NE can have him
Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli need to IMPRESS me in 2012....No Settling this year Chiefs Fans!!
I'm done with these arguments back & forth
We’ll know who’s right 5 years from now…
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Seriously
It’s just become talking points now. It’s over. McD isn’t coming here, so let’s just stop debating him.
Damn those unis are fresh
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Which ones?
I see Mcdaniels sporting the poo-brown Broncos hat. Is there anything fresher than a steaming pile of turd brown unis with the pee-striped socks?
I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.
by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 7, 2012 11:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think the old style Pats
white uniforms really look sharp when they are that white and crisp.
"The Hammer"
All unis look better when paired with white helmets
but I’m ready to see more squads in mirrored ones
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Mirrored?
Is that something the Ducks do? Doesn’t seem that the NFL would allow helmets that can blind the opponent on a sunny day.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Ducks Rose Bowl caps
Get ready for more of them in college next year just like we saw the rise of the matte finished helmets the last few years
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Love those OSU matte black helmets
Haven’t really noticed elsewhere…but I rarely watch college FB.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Missoura used them a few times
Uncle Phil debuts all the stuff in Eugene, the good stuff then gets filtered down to other Nike schools. With Nike getting the NFL contract I hope they take more chances in the future.
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Phil Knight (shutters...)
The man responsible for destroying the human knee. The man who managed to ruin 6 million years of evolution in less than 40 years…but I digress. Hopefully they’ll make subtle but noticeable changes to the Unis…
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Baylor rocked some matte green ones in thier bowl game... Not sure if i liked those.
Awaiting my punishment.
Both work.
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 7, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Oh good
Now Mcdaniels can stake claim to the rise of Gronk as an elite player, just like he did with Brady, Moss, and Welker
I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.
by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 7, 2012 11:36 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Kind of hard to give him a fair shot when people here make up random negative thoughts about him
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
I don't make up random negative thoughts about him
All my thoughts are negative about him..
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 7, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
I don't have random negative thoughts about McDoofus
All my thoughts are negative about him.
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 7, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
If he had been hired in KC as HC
it is possible a lot of people would like a fair shot at him.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
Best offense ever with Brady, Moss, Welker, and Belichick.
Absolutely abysmal showing with the Rams this year. I’m not impressed with this guy at all. Glad he’s off the table.
by bamachief5558 on Jan 7, 2012 11:51 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I'm curious what direction they go with this
With RAC as HC, they need a guy who he can basically hand the offense over to…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
I'd be fine with that
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
I was one of the few who really wanted McDaniels
But I knew that if he were hired there’s no way Peyton would come here (if available), so maybe this will work out best in the end. I’ll keep telling myself this anyway….
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
agree
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 7, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
WE need somebody who can take this offense
and run with it. I hope someone competent is in the works.
"The Hammer"
It really wouldn't surprise me, with the retention of RAC
If they promote entirely from within and we see Gibbs and Zorn as our coordinators.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Zorn is ideal
I just don’t want another new system installed, again…
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Win 3.1, Win 2005, Win 2008, Win 2000, Win XP, Vista, Win 7 ...
I know, I get tired of having to change systems, too
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Win 8 should be released this year, Fall I believe..
Aren’t you excited?
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 7, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
somewhere windows 98 and Windows ME are crying
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 7, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
Im going to assume that is not actually the order you installed your systems in...
Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
by nateforchiefs on Jan 8, 2012 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
Which is exactly what McDaniels would have done...
install an entirely new system, never max protect, and completely ignore our running backs.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
Jamaal Charles?
WE need somebody who can take this offense
and run with it.
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Dear Josh
if you need any help packing and moving, please don’t hesitate to call me … I truly just want to make sure that your move to New England is safe and complete, with the fervent hope that your stay there is a long one (or, really, anywhere other than Kansas City for the next several decades)
best of luck to you, Josh, and give our regards to Bill, Tom and the rest of the gang!
your friend,
Ups
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
by upamtn on Jan 7, 2012 12:06 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Disclaimer
These views do not represent the views of all Kansas City Chiefs fans. ;)
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Only about half of them.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
91%
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/12/16/2640503/josh-mcdaniels-kansas-city-chiefs
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 7, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
you, sir, are my hero and guiding (electric) light :-)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
KC has not been interviewing OC candidates.
This sort of affects the Chiefs because they were one of the teams reported to be interested in McDaniels. We never got the confirmation that they were and we likely never will now.
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 7, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
You stated 91% of Chiefs fans don't want him here...
That’s as a head coach not necessarily as offensive coordinator. I know we haven’t been interviewing OC candidates because we don’t technically have a head coach.
He talking of retiring
The Gentleman’s door I guess.
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 7, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like
We want to replace him, but if can’t find any takers, we will bring him back.
Nicknames I have coined:
Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'
I'd imagine he'll get the door next week, at least as OC.
They’ll probably announce as much of RAC’s staff as they can at the same time they officially announce his hire as head coach.
Maybe they leave him coaching the line? If he doesn’t retire he ought to step back to his “big uglies.” The man has no business holding a headset in 2012.
Talk about your plenty, talk about your ills/
One man gathers what another man spills
Thank God
about Mcdaniels. His only skill is being Belichick’s puppet. Left to his own devices he is an agent of destruction and the leader of poor offenses and I would even rather have another year of Bill Muir than Josh Mcdaniels. Why we would want to get a guy who led the only offense worse than ours, with better pieces (a healthy Steven Jackson, a better backup QB than Tyler, and a starting QB who looked better than ours before Mcdaniels, not to mention mid season wideout help.)
Having him as an OC would have been a nightmare. If he had been hired as HC, I would have tried to lead a rebellion.
"Trying is the first step to sucking" -Jimmy Chance
I'm honestly not sure where I see us going with the coaching hires for OC and DC.
I could see one of the positions being filled by someone on the staff in a promotion. DC makes more sense here because that person could be tutored by Romeo as the HC.
I’m not sure how I feel about the possibility of Zorn being the OC. I can’t be worse than Muir, right? RIGHT? I think this would probably be best for developing continuity. Also, it’s time that NFL teams start grooming coaches just like they groom players.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
Nfl has been grooming coaches like players
For a long time now
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 7, 2012 1:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I hope he doesn't trade for Tebow.
I’m hoping Tebow has a long career in the AFC West.
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
Have to wonder if Pioli backed down becaues the Patriots wanted him
Not that I wanted him on the team anyway, I think the guy is poison, but I do sometimes wonder if we are getting the Pats sloppy seconds.
Seems like sometimes guys that Pioli would be interested in he doesn’t pursue because the Patriots want them.
like Cassel and Vrabel?
… or do you mean like Moss?
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
No, I mean
other players the Chiefs were rumored to be interested in until the report came out that the Patriots wanted them and then the Chiefs backed down.
Yesterday the Chiefs were reported to be requesting permission to talk to McDaniels, then later the Patriots did, now the Chiefs are not interested.
Bugs me that Pioli will always back down to his former team.
Which players?
I’ve never heard anything like that before
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 7, 2012 1:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, that's news to me too...not unbelieveable, mind you, but new info.
Got a source somewhere DJ? Just curious.
Talk about your plenty, talk about your ills/
One man gathers what another man spills
Crennel feels like the hire because there was no one better
The guy will be 65 when the season starts next year. Big reason why no one else was talking about hiring him.
Even if he’s succesful, he’s a dead end for the team after the next 2 or 3 years. Then we start all over.
that's what it means to be the best ... there is no one better
Crennel feels like the hire because there was no one better
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Don't get me wrong, if Crennel was 10 years younger, I'd be fine with this
But just seems like you’re temporarily renting a guy that everyone knows can’t be around very long instead of building something for the future.
The future is now.
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 7, 2012 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
We will see.
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 7, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
I'd expect that his DC or Ass't HC is the "coach in waiting" type.
Someone that RAC can groom…
-Todd Bowles?
-Mel Tucker?
-Gary Gibbs?
I don’t have any guesses on the offensive side, but I’m sure there are prospects there, too.
Talk about your plenty, talk about your ills/
One man gathers what another man spills
So if Houston and Denver win, Tebow plays against McHoodie?
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
don't think so
I think O’Brien is the Pats OC until the end of the Patriot’s run, and McHoodie would not join them until next year.
The Steelers will make that point moot, anyway.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
McDaniels is hired as an offensive assistant in new england
effective immediately meaning he will be with them in the playoffs and then be promoted to OC next season. Reported by adam schefter earlier today
Not really...
He’s held the role successfully with the Patriots before, and their OC is headed Penn State.
The only odd thing is seeing someone return to a team like that. But Ive also heard talk of Haley back to the Cardinals.
by bamachief5558 on Jan 7, 2012 6:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I Doubt Haley To AZ Happens
Now that he’s started that whole “I want to be co-coordinator with Sparano” thing, I suspect that’s saying that there’s a lot less interest for him than we’ve been led to believe. In fact, I’m starting to think that it’s Haley spreading the AZ rumor.
Why would a notable control freak offer to share power in a bizarre arrangement if somebody is interested in hiring him on his own?
and people were worried
he would be the next HC. please..
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
Agreed.
Ridiculous.
How would this guy go from abysmal failure as a head coach to leading the worst offense in the league back to a head coaching gig. He’d have to be the luckiest idiot ever.
by bamachief5558 on Jan 7, 2012 6:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
to me it was just a matter of common sense.
pioli is on thin ice, so he hires mcdaniels? no way.
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
If Palmer would be willing to leave TN, that'd be awesome. But it'd be a lateral move, for one...
And two, he’s leaving behind two quarterbacks (one a proven winner and the other a top-sheld prospect) for two maybe’s and an unknown.
Talk about your plenty, talk about your ills/
One man gathers what another man spills
Yeah, I agree that it isn't likely but,
he and RAC go back a ways.
Awesome
Hell yeah take your Patriot Way back to New England
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 7, 2012 1:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Good for him and good for the Pats
The boy wasn’t ready to leave big daddy’s house. Big daddy said so himself. I’d much prefer him there than in KC where he’ll be under appropriate supervision.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Jan 7, 2012 1:46 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
*chuckle*
I rec this, because I approve this message.
Talk about your plenty, talk about your ills/
One man gathers what another man spills
Does anyone know if Philbin's contract...
is up in Greenbay. I got to think if he was granted play calling duties and a shot of succeeding Romeo he would take it. I don’t know if we can pull that lateral move. What about Tom Clements the QB coach from Greenbay? He is probably the best QB coach in the country, would bring Flynn along with him.
No thanks to all the above
Nicknames I have coined:
Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'
Too bad they didn't get McD that would gave been ideal please go outside for OC and a bee ST coach
by FrankPitts on Jan 7, 2012 3:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Ideal for who?
Not the Chiefs. Mcdaniels is an abject failure who just finished leading the worst offense in the NFL. He was outperformed by Bill freaking Muir in 2011, and HIS running back was healthy! The prevailing opinion on this blog is that Bradford > Cassel, and the Rams backups were > than Palko as well, so they were in a better position than we were.
Let him go back to being OC ( i.e. Belichicks gofer and personal puppet) at New England.
"Trying is the first step to sucking" -Jimmy Chance
Just shows how much of a genius Belichick is
He can retire when Brady retires and McD can be the new NE head coach and run them into the ground, so it will make ole Bill’s star shine even brighter.
by BigRoz on Jan 7, 2012 7:47 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
It's official now
McDouche to pats
Uhhh...I hate looking at the 1983 Draft and seeing 2 HOF'ers picked after our washed up QB pick.
by Ren on Jan 7, 2012 8:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions
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