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Derrick Johnson Named First Team All-Pro

The Associated Press released their 2011 All-Pro team. Derrick Johnson was named to the first team. The first team selected 5 LBs, 3 of them inside linebackers because of a tie between Johnson and SF inside linebacker NaVorro Bowman, who both received 16 votes each. The other first team ILB was Patrick Willis.

What a great honor for DJ, he deserved it after being an animal the entire season.

Also, Tamba Hali was named to the second team All-Pro team. Tough for him to make the first team considering the years Terrell Suggs and DeMarcus Ware had.

Here's the entire roster.

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Congrats to you DJ!

Step it up Tamba!!!

Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.

by nateforchiefs on Jan 6, 2012 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

Pay the man, play the man.

Oh wait.

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 6, 2012 3:13 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

BOOM!

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)

by MNchiefsfan on Jan 6, 2012 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Justice

Foxtrot Alpha November - Sierra Hotel Oscar Tango!

by TRSChief on Jan 6, 2012 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

Flowers is next

Jamaal Charles is here to kick ass and chew bubble gum; and he's all outta bubble gum.

by His Royal Greatness on Jan 6, 2012 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

Defensively we have 4 All-Pro caliber players next year in my opinion. Tamba, DJ, Flowers and Berry

Offensively we have Bowe and Charles. Can’t wait for the 2012 season.

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by Lehnhart on Jan 6, 2012 3:18 PM CST reply actions  

what about him?

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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 6, 2012 9:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Remember when...

AP was saying Chiefs wouldn’t get any postseason awards because they’re a small market, losing team, everybody hates them, etc.?

That wasn’t awesome.

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 6, 2012 3:22 PM CST reply actions  

This is where I do like the system.

Fan votes only count for so much. Peer, coach, and press voting comes in to play which helps out a guy like DJ who really did play at another level.

Still doesn’t always work well for some guys who play great but don’t have the name, but it’s better than just a fan vote.

"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram

by citadelchief on Jan 6, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Fan vote is only 1/3 of Pro Bowl voting.

Probably still too much, but I’m just sayin’.

Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC

by Tarkus on Jan 6, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

if fans voted...

lebron james or kobe would be in every goddamn pro bowl game…even though they play basketball

by Chiefshero on Jan 6, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

that would be funny if it wasn't so true

Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 6, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Trivia (no peeking)

Who was the last Chiefs all pro player? I have no idea… I’ll say Jared Allen.

Again, no researching this. I think it’s been a while.

by Ozarks on Jan 6, 2012 3:29 PM CST reply actions  

Matt Cassel?

Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC

by Tarkus on Jan 6, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Charles. Last year.

Where do I pick up my prize?

My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.

by Scott B. on Jan 6, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

was he really?

Geez, I forgot. Congrats to Derrick…. Joel, get this man a beer glove!

by Ozarks on Jan 6, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoa whoa whoa

My comment is CLEARLY above his. Where is my beer glove??

by Chiefs447 on Jan 6, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

my comment was definitely above his until I refreshed the page.

Conspiracy!

by Chiefs447 on Jan 6, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd like to think Berry was on it.

But I don’t believe he was.

Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC

by Tarkus on Jan 6, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe.

Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC

by Tarkus on Jan 6, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope, but Bowe was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_All-Pro_Team

Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC

by Tarkus on Jan 6, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

No beer for you!

My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.

by Scott B. on Jan 6, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay.

Shots it is!

Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC

by Tarkus on Jan 6, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Thought about him

figured there was too much competition considering both conferences.

Wow, 9 second team safeties and Berry wasn’t included? HTF did that happen???

by Chiefs447 on Jan 6, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

9 2nd team safeties last year and EB was not one of them… ludicrous.

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by Lehnhart on Jan 6, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Eric didn't get off to a great start last year, remember.

He made some mistakes. Luckily for us…he learned from them.

My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.

by Scott B. on Jan 6, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

But there are 9 of them!

I could understand your point if it was 3 or 4, but geez.

by Chiefs447 on Jan 6, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

OK, here's the list of first teamers from the oughts...

Tony Gonzalez 2000, 2001, 2003, 2008
Priest Holmes 2001, 2002, 2003
Dante Hall 2003
Willie Roaf 2004
Brian Waters 2004, 2005
LJ (2.7) 2006
Jared Allen 2007
Jamaal Charles 2010
Derrick Johnson 2011

by Ozarks on Jan 6, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

He allowed the most TDs last year per multiple sources

Cant make the All-pro team with that on your resume

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 6, 2012 4:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh I see.

Guess that didn’t matter for the Pro Bowl

by Chiefs447 on Jan 6, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Priest Holmes

Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.

by joplin chiefs fan on Jan 6, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

Max: Two days ago, I saw a vehicle that would haul that tanker. You want to get out of here? You talk to me.

by GaryfromIA on Jan 6, 2012 3:33 PM CST reply actions  

How did Tamba

not even make 2nd team All-Pro last year?

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by Lehnhart on Jan 6, 2012 3:43 PM CST reply actions  

True, but...

Suggs didn’t make either team last year. Last year’s first teamers were Mathews, Harrison, Ware and Wake.

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by Lehnhart on Jan 6, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Oops

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by Lehnhart on Jan 6, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I mean

1st team was Mathews and Harrison, 2nd team was Ware and Wake

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by Lehnhart on Jan 6, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Well according to the list

Wake made 1st team and 2nd team. I think Suggs’ name is supposed to be one of those.

by Chiefs447 on Jan 6, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Tough competition at DE. And...he plays for the Chiefs.

My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.

by Scott B. on Jan 6, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

tamba

Shame and a wrong for Tambahawk not to make it last year. The Unstoppable Force had most QB pressures in the NFL + a zillion sacks.

by DuctTapeMessiah on Jan 6, 2012 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

There aren't enough bowl games.

Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC

by Tarkus on Jan 6, 2012 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

you're right!!

screw a playoff, we just need more bowl games! How about… The Crapper Bowl Kansas vs. St. Marys Shortbussers

by tomachop on Jan 6, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/1/6/2687291/if-the-nfl-embraced-the-bcs-instead-of-these-silly-playoffs

Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC

by Tarkus on Jan 6, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

that was hilarious

posted it yesterday on MN’s thread

Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 6, 2012 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Copycat!

Oh wait…

Chiefs D held Raiders, Bears, Packers and Broncos to their lowest point outputs of the season. #RAC

by Tarkus on Jan 6, 2012 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Raiders hire Packers GM

interesting

Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 6, 2012 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Jerry Jones Bowl's my favorite... they all funny as hell

Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.

by 58 was my friend on Jan 6, 2012 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting history

Interesting to see that only twice in the last 20 years have we had no All-Pros, and also the relative lack of recognition during the 1990’s, which many of us pine for as the “good ol’ relatively recent days”.

Obviously individual accomplishments don’t equal success, but they do walk in the same park.

2011: Derrick Johnson 1st Team, Tamba Hali 2nd Team
2010: Jamaal Charles 1st Team, Dwayne Bowe 2nd Team
2009: :-(
2008: Tony G 1st Team
2007: Jared Allen 1st Team, Tony G 2nd Team
2006: Larry Johnson 1st Team, Tony G and Will Shields 2nd Team
2005: Larry Johnson and Willie Roaf both 2nd Team
2004: Roaf and Brian Waters 1st Team, Tony G, Shields and Tony Richardson 2nd Team.
2003: Priest Holmes, Dante Hall (KR), Shields, Roaf and Tony G all 1st Team. (Ah memories)
2002: Holmes and Shields 1st Team, Tony G and Roaf 2nd Team
2001: Holmes and Tony G 1st Team
2000: Tony G 1st Team
1999: Tony G 1st Team
1998: :-(
1997: Dave Szott 1st Team, Shields and James Hasty 2nd Team
1996: Derrick Thomas and Dale Carter both 2nd Team
1995: Neil Smith, Louis Aguiar and Carter all 2nd Team
1994: DT 2nd Team
1993: Neil Smith 1st Team, DT 2nd Team
1992: :-( (Though DT did make 1st team in 2 other publications)
1991: DT 1st Team
1990: DT and Nick Lowery both 1st Team, John Alt and Kevin Ross 2nd Team
1989: Christian Okoye and Albery Lewis both 1st Team
1988: Deron Cherry and Lowery both 1st Team
1987: :-(
1986: Deron Cherry 1st Team, Bill Maas 2nd Team

by UNIPanther on Jan 6, 2012 4:13 PM CST reply actions  

WTF happen in 1995

How can Louie Aguiar make All-Pro when DT was left out. Crooks!!!!

Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.

by 58 was my friend on Jan 6, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

'95

DT: 2 FF 8 Sacks 48 solo tackles (5 assists)
Down year .. didn’t put the effort into researching who made All-Pro that year to compare.

by DuctTapeMessiah on Jan 6, 2012 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

But then again its Derrick Thomas ya' know

I mean like Patrick Willis this year was kinda pedestrian stats (74 solo, 1 INT, 4 FF) and yet he’s in the Pro Bowl and his counterpart Bowman got snubbed just BECOZ Willis was more popular.

Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.

by 58 was my friend on Jan 6, 2012 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

so he should have been selected on name recognition alone?

over Greg LLoyd (Pitt) who was 88 Tackles, 6.5 Sacks, 3 INT
to Derrick Thomas 48, 8, 0

40 fewer tackles alone … no, he didn’t deserve it that year, he was fortunate to make it as 2nd in conference

Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 6, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

heck yeah, thats how urlacher got in a few years back when he missed most of the season

and remember Polamalu (2009) was also in one year where he liked missed all but 5 games.

It’s how popular you are and what you mean to your team. That’s how some players get voted to consecutive pro bowls despite a down year on stats.

Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.

by 58 was my friend on Jan 6, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Troy P was not All-Pro in 2009.

Didn’t even make the Pro Bowl that year. Remember that it’s for the previous year. So where you read 2009 Pro Bowl, they probably meant for the 2008 season.

All Pro: 2004, 2005, 2008, 2010, 2011.

"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram

by citadelchief on Jan 7, 2012 1:53 AM CST up reply actions  

well, I disagree ... IOW they SHOULDN'T get in on name alone

Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 7, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I still get this sense that Tamba would be higher-rated if he had stronger hands.

He misses a lot of tackles and doesn’t slow people down unless he’s able to get a body on ’em, and even then he seems to slide off. I wanna send him my hand grips and have him apply his discipline to getting those Pop-eye forearms.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Jan 6, 2012 5:08 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, but he kind of makes up for that with his FF numbers.

I think it’s the fact he can’t play the run at all. Ware and Suggs both dominate in both aspects (and Suggs can play the pass too).

He just needs a more complete game if he wants to hit that next level.

"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram

by citadelchief on Jan 6, 2012 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe it's just me

But the Pro Bowl rosters should be decide by All-Pro’s. Forget dividing the teams up by conferences. I would much rather watch the 1st team All-Pro offense play against the 1st team All-Pro defense in the first half. Then in the 2nd half, switch it up. 2nd team All-Pro offense against the 2nd team All-Pro defense.

If you think Rodgers has a ton of weapons now, imagine if he was playing with MJD, Megatron, Wes Welker, and The Gronk. That’s the offense I’d like to watch play. Especially if they’re trying to outmatch a secondary of Revis/Woodson/Polamalu/Weddle. If the players actually showed up and played that game like it meant something, I’d pay to watch that.

by Pickle29 on Jan 6, 2012 5:33 PM CST reply actions  

I posted before I thought

1st team Offense + 2nd team Defense
vs.
2nd team Offense + 1st team Defense

That would make actual sense in my thought process.

by Pickle29 on Jan 6, 2012 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually, I think you hit the nail on the head with something else you wrote:

“If the players actually showed up and played that game like it meant something,”

That’s the real issue. You get a handful of guys excited to be there (1st timers), but everyone else just wants the extra check and NOBODY wants to risk getting hurt.

"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram

by citadelchief on Jan 6, 2012 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I wasn't expecting him to make it.

Not because he didn’t deserve it, but because he wasn’t on the Pats/Packers/Jets/Ravens/Steelers/Cowboys.

by NigerianNightmare on Jan 8, 2012 4:14 PM CST reply actions  

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