Chiefs Extend Another One Of Their Own

by Joel Thorman on Jan 6, 2012 10:15 AM CST

The Kansas City Chiefs have signed a number of their young players to contract extensions over the last year and a half including K Ryan Succop and LB Brandon Siler in the last week.

We can now add another name to the list -- LB Cory Greenwood. Brian McIntyre reported this morning (and I can separately confirm) that the Chiefs signed him to a four-year extension worth $2.75 million. Check out the details of the contract here.

Greenwood was originally the third overall pick in the 2010 CFL draft before deciding to go the NFL route and sign with the Chiefs as an undrafted free agent. He's been active in every game the last two years and is among the team leaders in special teams tackles.

The Chiefs have really done a pretty good job of extending some of their own guys since last season -- Jamaal Charles, Derrick Johnson and Tamba Hali, to name a few.

But...we're still waiting for the Chiefs to reel in the two big fish this offseason -- Dwayne Bowe and Brandon Carr.

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Booya!!!

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by SwimCoach on Jan 6, 2012 10:16 AM CST reply actions 1 recs

seriously though

I like the signing. Solid special teams player. Not a sexy signing, but this is good news.

People are going to say, WHY AREN’T YOU SIGNING BOWE AND CARR?

Who are you to say they aren’t spending hours and hours on trying to get them to sign a deal. Guys like Siler, Succop, Greenwood are probably WAY easier to negotiate with.

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by SwimCoach on Jan 6, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions

this is great news, but why aren't they signing Bowe and Carr?

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by upamtn on Jan 6, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions

I always thought Pioli didn't really like Bowe

He is kind of a knucklehead. But Carr is surprising. If he hasn’t been signed yet he must be headed for free agency. When you think back to the Patriots though, they did let a lot of good CBs walk. Pioli must either think Jalil Brown can handle it or he can find someone else in the draft.

by Chatch McNasty on Jan 6, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions

What has Pioli ever said or did

to make you think he doesn’t like Bowe?

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by Tarkus on Jan 6, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions

McNasty ... I think you mistook my (not apparent) sarcasm as actual concern

I have little doubt that both Bowe and Carr will be re-signed in due time … the season has just ended, it’s early yet, no hurry … no worries

by upamtn on Jan 6, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

It's already been 5 days.

WHY AREN’T THESE GUYS SIGNED YET!?

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by Tarkus on Jan 6, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions

As long as they get it done before FA starts I'm A-OK

And if it turns out one of them was asking for insane amounts of money… all right then.

What was the deal Flowers got? 10 mil a year?

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by MNchiefsfan on Jan 6, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions

Something like that.

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by Tarkus on Jan 6, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions

If we look back over the last few Pioli years, what's the average timeline of signings?

We’re what, a week into the offseason (well the offseason for us :-( ) I don’t think there is any need to freak out yet. I agree with you. We have till FA before I start freaking out.

by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 6, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions

remember, with Pioli the important thing isn't TIME line ... it's BOTTOM line

by upamtn on Jan 6, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions

Tamba and Flowers want to argue the point

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by MNchiefsfan on Jan 6, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

$10 Mil/year did you say?

have I mentioned that I play CB online in a fantasy world in my head that …

by upamtn on Jan 6, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions

Carr was the last guy to sign his tender last year

Maybe he just doesn’t want to play here

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Jan 6, 2012 2:46 PM CST up reply actions

Could be

Maybe he wants to be known as a number 1 corner, not a “tandem” with Flowers.

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by MNchiefsfan on Jan 6, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions

he would get destroyed as the numer 1 guy

But, if we franchise him, he and Dorsey and picks to move up to that 1 spot Heeeeeyyy

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Jan 6, 2012 6:08 PM CST up reply actions

You just replied to yourself and asked "Who are you."

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 6, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions

evil twin, obviously

by upamtn on Jan 6, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions

re-read

"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"

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by SwimCoach on Jan 6, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions

No. Once was enough. I intentionally misinterpreted.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 6, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions

And pretty funny!

If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?

by electriclight on Jan 6, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions

If nothing else, it gives people something to whine about.

As if your signings have to be done in order of priority.

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by Tarkus on Jan 6, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions

Great move

This isn’t the kind of move that will garner any media attention, but I think it’s a very smart move. He’s a special teams beast and should take over as a leader on the unit for Demorrio Williams (who enters the final year of his contract at around $5M so I’d bet would be a cap casualty).

Your eyes tell you more than any statistics can.

by kc_radrh8r on Jan 6, 2012 10:20 AM CST reply actions

this IS a great move, but why aren't they signing Bowe and ... oh, wait ...

never mind!

by upamtn on Jan 6, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions

yes because we can win with only an offense and defense

not like special teams ever won us games or something..oh wait….

never mind!

by Chiefshero on Jan 6, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions

How about signing someone who matters?

Not fucking kickers and career special teamers?

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by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 6, 2012 10:28 AM CST reply actions

Well, he IS Canadian.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 6, 2012 10:30 AM CST up reply actions

It has to be WAY easier to sign guys like this

compared to stars like Bowe or potential stars like Carr. The negotiations probably took all of 30 minutes with Greenwood’s agents. Get that out of the way so you can devote more energy to the bigger players. Seems like good business to me.

by cheapham on Jan 6, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions

Disagree

Sign the players you need first. Check how much cap space you have left after doing so and then look to improve on players like Greenwood. Build the roster from the top down not from the bottom up

by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 6, 2012 10:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

or perhaps the Chiefs are negotiating with Carr and Bowe at the same time as Succop, Greenwood, et al.

But since Carr and Bowe have more leverage (because they aren’t kickers or career special teamers) the negotiations with them take longer.

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 6, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions

And their contracts are more complicated with incentives, deferrals, etc.

The time line’s probably related to simple quantity of paperwork as much as anything else.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 6, 2012 10:44 AM CST up reply actions

Carr and Bowe certainly have performed well enough to leverage bigger contracts

But if we fail to sign one or both of them it won’t be because we ran out of money after having paid Bobby Greenwood

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 6, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions

Seriously, especially considering the amount of cap space this team has

A number which several people here never tire of quoting.

by cheapham on Jan 6, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions

A few of the same people who worry that Greenwood takes up potential Bowe space.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 6, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions

not Bobby, Cory

by stagdsp on Jan 6, 2012 6:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

And

those two players are probably being told by their agents to see what their value is on the open market. In their case, it would be foolish to sign an extension without seeing what they could receive elsewhere.

Your eyes tell you more than any statistics can.

by kc_radrh8r on Jan 6, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions

They were waiting to see what Greenwood got.

If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?

by electriclight on Jan 6, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions

You mean, like they did with Cassel?

It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.

by neiowakcfan on Jan 6, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions

Agree.

Probably went something like:

“And I think you’ll see, that my client has made great contributions to special teams, has filled in nicely on the defense in a few situations, and ultimately deserves four years for four million.”

“What? Are you still here? Didn’t I call a plumber?”

“I’m not a plumber, sir, I’m…”

“Ohh, are you an assistant to Bowe’s agent? He wants another four million? Tell him we’ll think about it.”

“On second thought, we’ll take 2.75 million over four years.”

by sea_people on Jan 6, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions

Last I checked

There were three aspects to the game and Special Teams is one of them. Or do you not recall how important special teams were against the Raiders? It’s a good move. You don’t have to be contrarian about everything

by Steve_in_RI on Jan 6, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions

but that would go against his nature

:-)

by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 6, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions

I kinda agree HIV

Except with Succop. He does matter, if we block correctly, he’s an excellent kicker which can make all the difference.

We're the same team as last year, except incredibly better, and with new players.

by Flowers24 on Jan 6, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions

I like him too, still it seems like a lower priority

by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 6, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions

right, since kicker is such a low priority. go ask the pats how much they wish they had kept viniateri....heck, even if they are glad hes gone and ike gotskowski....

the kicks he made, FAR outweigh and damage asante samuel or ellis hobbs were doing at the time

Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Jan 6, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions

ILB matters too.

One or both of these guys could end up offering more than Jovan Belcher at the position. I love that we’re locking those guys up for the future.

I’d love to hear about Carr and/or Bowe signing even more, but those contracts will obviously take longer.

by bamachief5558 on Jan 6, 2012 1:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

Hey now...

remember, those guys are responsible for most of our points.

by 12t on Jan 6, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions

Carr will be a chief

Wouldnt supprise me if chiefs stick a franchise tag on car

by denmaster on Jan 6, 2012 11:12 AM CST reply actions

i hope u are right

but with pioli nobody knows

by MizzouChief on Jan 6, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions

I dont remember for sure

but did Pioli slap that tag on Asante Samuel before shipping him to Philly? Or was he just a free agent and Pioli didn’t want to overspend on him?

Your eyes tell you more than any statistics can.

by kc_radrh8r on Jan 6, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions

he was a free agent

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Jan 6, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions

If we use the franchise tag

it will be Bowe.

by bamachief5558 on Jan 6, 2012 1:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

Bowe, Carr, and McClain, GET IT DONE!

Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.

by Fozzyboyd on Jan 6, 2012 11:33 AM CST reply actions

Good news

I like Greenwood a lot. Great special teams guy.

by bh13 on Jan 6, 2012 11:57 AM CST reply actions

What are the Franchise tag options?

I’ve got a feeling we sign Carr and tag Bowe, isn’t there several options of franchise tags.

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by CPT.Caveman on Jan 6, 2012 1:41 PM CST reply actions

tag one of them, one tag, one has to be signed or else we lose them and get a comp pick next year

Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Jan 6, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions

I think they'll sign Bowe

and possibly tag Carr

by stagdsp on Jan 6, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions

I think that's probably the more expensive way to go.

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by Brsrkr on Jan 6, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions

yep

by stagdsp on Jan 6, 2012 6:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

Yes but isn't there a unrestricted and a restricted Franchise Tag.

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by CPT.Caveman on Jan 6, 2012 1:43 PM CST reply actions

only one tag, can be exclusive or non exclusive

I think

by stagdsp on Jan 6, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions

OK that's what I meant, I wasn't sure what it was called.

What’s the difference, is it asking price or the ability too match the offer, Im not sure how it works.

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by CPT.Caveman on Jan 6, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions

Non-exclusive tags

allow the player to negotiate with other teams. If they agree to sign with another team, their original team can match the offer to keep them or receive 2 first-round picks from the new team.

Exclusive tags don’t allow the player to negotiate with other teams.

by Chiefs4Life on Jan 6, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions

Ok got it thanks.

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by CPT.Caveman on Jan 6, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions

Didn't get to see him play much on D this year

But I remember this guy having a great motor. I think it says something about his development that his first two years were both played under one year contracts and now he’s earned a four-year extension. They must see something they like. Plus, it’s a four-year deal for next to nothing (by NFL standards).

by Chiefs4Life on Jan 6, 2012 2:00 PM CST reply actions