Keeping The House In Order For The Chiefs
by Flowers24 on Jan 5, 2012 5:00 PM CST
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PrintIt's that time of year again. The NFL season is over for Kansas City and the fans are looking towards the future. Free agency, the draft, and coaching changes all loom over Arrowhead Stadium and it's faithful. It's a great mystery what will happen, but everyone will give their best guesses. First things first however.
The Chiefs need to worry about their own players. Dwayne Bowe and Brandon Carr are two of the most important pieces on the team. Bowe is far and away the top receiving threat and one could make an argument that Carr is the top corner.
In this day and age of footballs darkening the sky, Kansas City has a huge advantage with the top corner tandem in the NFL. In his two seasons under Emmitt Thomas, Carr has made incredible strides to be the player he is today. He provides an exceptional and rare contrast from Brandon Flowers which gives the opposition fits. Carr is very imposing for a corner, listed at six feet and 207 pounds. The 25-year-old can play the bigger receiver while Flowers (listed at 5'9'' and 187) can use his speed and quickness to blanket smaller opponents.
I don't understand the logic of letting Carr go because you would be sinking too much money into one position group. Many teams throw the ball more than ever so why wouldn't you use cap space on your secondary and pass rushers?
If Carr is replaced by someone who isn't good, the pass rush suffers and in turn so do Flowers and the rest of the secondary. They become less important because that side is getting picked on. Now Eric Berry and Kendrick Lewis have to roll coverage and that hurts their ability to roam freely.
With Berry and Lewis as safeties the Chiefs are the hardest team to find open receivers against, bar none. Only three times all season did Kansas City give up more than 100 receiving yards to one player (Garcon, Floyd, Marshall).
Now onto Mr. Bowe.
Bowe ended the season with 81 receptions and 1,159 yards. That's a great season with any quarterback throwing the ball. Then factor in he had Tyler Palko "throwing" it for four games. Bowe can be a dominating player and has developed into one of the best blocking receivers in the league as well. Losing him would be a crippling blow to the offense.
Even if Jonathan Baldwin turns out to be an excellent player that still leaves the Chiefs with a gaping hole on the other side. Breaston is much more effective in the slot when he can work over the middle. Defenses will just pack eight-in-the-box and force Cassel/Orton/other random QB to throw, making Jamaal Charles much less of a weapon.
Bowe is an elite talent who's just entering the prime of his career. Don't tell me about dropped passes either. While he'll drop the occasional ball Bowe has become a force and easily the best wide receiver this team has had since Otis Taylor. Think about that for a minute.
It's not easy to just draft or sign replacements for players of this caliber. Football is the ultimate team game. It requires 11 players to work in unison at all times. One big mistake or below-average player could drastically alter the game.
Before Scott Pioli worries about another house, he should worry about his own.
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There shouldn't be any no votes honestly
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 5, 2012 5:05 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely
Unless Bowe somehow wants Fitz money or some team is willing to throw the world at us for em, no reason we can’t keep both AND still do damage in other positions we need filled
As long as we don't let Bowe/Carr just walk
Then IMO that is keeping the house in order. We may not be able to keep both long term, but as long as we get something in return it will hopefully balance out
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 5, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
I think this important to keep in perspective
There is a limit to how much I would expect Pioli to spend on these two probably somewhere even with or south of what the franchise tag would cost us. If either of them goes then we better hear that the Chiefs chased them and that the team that got them overpaid for them.
Time to face the brutal facts.
any word on what half wright had to say today about the hc search
i heard he had a big announcement
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
There is a fanshot about it
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 5, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
okay any info on what he had to say
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
Bitching about how Fisher isn't coming here(shocker)
And somehow its a travesty, like it was even a remote shot in the first place
yeah some more half wright BS
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 5, 2012 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
I used to say this more than I do now
His “sources” appear to have been pretty spot-on about Pioli/Haley
Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.
by joplin chiefs fan on Jan 5, 2012 6:41 PM CST up reply actions
He said
that Fisher was less interested in the Chiefs because Fisher did not get the feeling from Chiefs’ ownership that they were agressiveley trying to win. Meaning, he didn’t think they were willing to put up the dollars to build a winner. This all came from a report by MIke Silver of Yahoo Sports who Wright says is always dead on.
And yet he's interested in Miami/STL, who dont have the greatest owners either
Dolphins came out and said they will not be outbid. Miami+Overpaying = next head coach.
Right
but are they willing to put up money for players? I don’t know, I’m asking. Seems like Miami does.
And for what it’s worth, Wright also pointed out that he isn’t interested in the Bucs and that the Chiefs and Bucs have two things in common: Both have been way under the cap in recent years and both owners own a soccer team.
if clark feels strong about being cheap then why not get romeo signed up, he will be a cheap hire for kc
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 5, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
Well I mean we've brought in better talent than them
So I would say we’re willing to bring in good players.
I know we've drafted great talent
Not sure how much better talent we’ve “brought” in though. I’m not saying he’s right. Just telling niagerian what he said.
Oh I know
But that’s what I’m saying, we’ve brought in more and better talent that Miami/STL….but come on, south beach plus over-paying him, bet my paycheck he’s the Dolphins coach
if clark is cheap then he paid both herm and now haley a years salary to sit on there ass
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 5, 2012 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like he didn't think they would pay him enough
I’ve never been impressed with this guy, I don’t think he’s going to be an incredible success at his next job, and I couldn’t care less if he doesn’t come here.
Dollars = Winner?
With the Redskins, Cowboys, Jets, etc sitting at home, how does spending a shit load equal winning games?
I do think you have to spend an average amount of money to have a playoff caliber NFL team. That said, if you draft well and pay the right guys, you shouldn’t have to spend Danny Snyder dollars.
i wonder what pioli thinks about romeo. i thought it would be a done deal by now
u never know with pioli
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
Why would it be done already?
There’s no point is there? FA isn’t open, season’s not even over; might as well take as much time as possible and interview everyone.
u can't tire kick for ever, u need to establish some form of continuity
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 5, 2012 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
mchoodie isn't coming to town right
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
He said that while it's not as likely as it was before
there is sill probably a little better than a 50/50 chance McHoodie could be our head coach
Which is why he's a moron
It’s 0% he becomes a HC anywhere
by KCinIL on Jan 5, 2012 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
no please no
maybe oc
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 5, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
Has anybody noticed
that Megatron makes huge plays when he is in the slot? Also, it helps out Young and Burleson….why wouldn’t we play Baldwin in the slot and see if a LB or safety can cover him.
Seems like Baldwin was actually used in the slot on several occasions this year.
Twitter: @RaiderHater86
Looked to me that he was flexed like an H-Back
more than being in the slot (if it makes any difference)
Jamaal Charles is here to kick ass and chew bubble gum; and he's all outta bubble gum.
by His Royal Greatness on Jan 5, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
Sign them both to market value now, then move on to the draft and free agency
Signing our own is the biggest no-brainer ever. We build through the draft then once our draft picks become great, let them walk or ship em’ off?
by craig in calgary on Jan 5, 2012 5:20 PM CST reply actions
exactly what the KC Royals do.
D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"
by reedeasy on Jan 5, 2012 5:25 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
The Royals have no choice. That's why I gave up on baseball.
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 5, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
They won't get to walk
Pioli will at least try to figure out how to trade them. He loves draft picks and good young proven players are worth a lot of them.
Why keep good players when you can flip them for draft picks who might be good players?
Reminds me of the Family Guy episode where he could chose between the boat and the magic box.
“Sure the boat is a boat, but what’s in the magic box could be anything…it could even be a boat!”
by craig in calgary on Jan 5, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
We can't keep shipping off the best players
not that Pioli has to date, we should only trade from the box marked “Mis-Fits” for the Chiefs schemes
U think romeo the guy or not
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
it seems Pioli is interviewing outside guys as a mere formality.
i think RAC is most assuredly the guy.
D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"
by reedeasy on Jan 5, 2012 5:27 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
sign them, but not top priority
Both players are asking for top tier pay, and while they are major parts of our team, they are not that good. Let the market determine their contract value, then sign them to competitive contracts. KC’s top priority is getting the coaching staff selected.
by Geoff Eldringhoff on Jan 5, 2012 5:25 PM CST reply actions
one of them will get franchised...
most likely Bowe since the avg top5 CB salary is markedly less than top 5 WR avg. the other will get signed. Pioli is all about the core.
D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"
by reedeasy on Jan 5, 2012 5:29 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
other way around
WR less than CB
D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"
by reedeasy on Jan 5, 2012 5:31 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I disagree
we better get these two signed before they sniff the market because money talks, and if we don’t offer more than other teams, they’ll be gone. Period. Don’t even let them have the chance to explore.
they are not that good
Yes, they are that good
Agree with 447
They are 2 important players for us. Neither is perfect, but both are very good. We need their talents on this team.
by u2nspenserfan on Jan 5, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
I think they will both get signed
just not for the amount that the players are asking for, and not right now. Dwayne Bowe wants Larry Fitzgerald money and Brandon Carr wants Brandon Flowers money, which is out of the question because neither has performed to that level yet.
by Geoff Eldringhoff on Jan 5, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
Disagree
They look as good on gameday, but I think that’s mostly because Flowers is usually paired up against better competition.
Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.
by joplin chiefs fan on Jan 5, 2012 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
Disagree
- WR typically move around during the game. The exception being Reggie Wayne. In 2 games playing every down vs Reggie Wayne (so WITH Peyton Manning) Carr held him to 4 catches for 77 yards this year and 6 catches for 75 yards. That is an elite WR for one example. Brandon Carr in my opinion is at LEAST as hard to replace as Bowe. He is good in zone AND man coverage
...
I know I numbered that, but I feel that was enough said.
all good CB's have some struggles
Revis had his last Sunday
7.5 M is not extravagant for a total package CB
I think that is what Flowers got
My Disagreement was to Joplin Chiefs Fan
Flowers is making about 8.3 mil on average. 6 years 50.6 mil. I’ll gladly give Flowers 7 mil. We could have the best Secondary in football (barring stupid F’ing injuries) for 5 years at least. Nick Wright was sayin’ there will be 9+ mill a year offers on the open market for him. Which I don’t really doubt considering the way open markets are. A team like the Cowboys hurting for a CB could pony up the $$$. I think 9 mill is too much…
Eric Berry is not on the Cowboys
I think the 4 amigos like each other a lot.
not saying they should take less than value but Berry is here :)
rookie contract
i know. What is your point? You lost me.
agree
When I think of the other 32 #1 WRs in the NFL there are only a handful I’d consider to be better than Bowe
Carr on the other hand is in that top five of #2 CBs in the league
Pioli and Hunt let these guys play out their contracts knowing that they had talent. Had the brass extended these guys last year they’d have cost less than they’re going to cost now. There are only a couple of over paid players on this roster and when their contracts are up they won’t be getting that kind of pay again. Pay these two PERFORMERS and keep the team’s consistency moving forward.
Right, because
HCs win games out on the field. How is Dwayne Bowe “not that good”? Brandon Carr is an above average CB no matter how you slice it. Best on the team? I still like Flowers better, but Carr is a great value at that pick and in a pass happy NFL having a known above avg CB is WAY better than rolling the dice on draft or bringing in someone else’s sloppy seconds.
I am all for signing Crennel too, but this all has to come together… the talent has to BE there to coach it into something special… if head coach is more important than players then let’s re-sign Tyler Palko and start him next year, since it would make no difference anyway, Romeo or whomever could turn him into Peyton Manning… Listens to earpiece Oh, oh I’m sorry I’m getting that we tried that and Tyler Palko DID play and he was terrible. Ok back to you.
The Kansas City Chiefs, ruining playoff hopes since 2010
I'm Kind of On the Fence
With Pioli as it is. At first I was a big Pioli supporter but I’ve been tapering off.
If we don’t resign Carr and Bowe I will for sure not be happy with Pioli anymore. It goes against the whole message from day one which was developing young talent. They are both young and they have both developed well. Not to mention there is no guarantee that anyone in Free Agency or the draft can or will produce as well as they can.
Plus lets say we get someone like Blackmon and a corner in the draft and lose Carr and Bowe we make no progress and maybe even take some steps back.
Absolutely have to sign both of these guys! They are core players, I will become extremely violent if Pioli doesn’t make this happen!
by Chiefsallday25 on Jan 5, 2012 5:29 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Our offense needs Dwayne Bowe
If we had to choose one I would pay big money for Bowe. I’d be much more confident in our defense overcoming the loss of Carr than our offense overcoming the loss of Bowe. I love Carr, but our offense is absolutely putrid with Bowe on the sideline.
You can cover up a poor secondary with a great pass rush.
You can’t cover up a shitty recieving core. Signing both is a huge no-brainer, I’d also say Bowe should be signed, not to mention he’s a better WR than Carr is DB.
by craig in calgary on Jan 5, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
The only problem is… we don’t have a great pass rush. We have 1 great pass rusher and a bunch of meh. I’ll give you that Houston really started to show up late and Bailey looked good in sub packages. I wouldn’t call it a GREAT pass rush by ANY means… Carr is a versatile player though. Zone, man, he can play both very well. We don’t have anyone to do that behind him. We have missed a lot of cornerbacks. (bring back Herm to evaluate talent there) I don’t think Herm Edwards missed on any DB. Page, Pollard, Flowers, Carr…
Great post....req'd
I’m sure there could be some debate over your analysis, but not from me. I agree whole heartedly that keeping the core impact players will set us up for becoming the perennial playoff and SB powerhouse. This is the “building from within concept” that has been stressed and understood as the way to build a consistantly winning franchise.
I also agree with you on the true value of our DB core and WR core. We have outstanding young players there that will only get better with a QBoF and soldi lines on both sides.
That line alone justifies how Pioli operates. Bowe possess tremendous value. My bet is Pioli inks him.
Bowe is an elite talent who’s just entering the prime of his career.
Carr – whole different story. See how NE let Asante Samuel walk and a few others but none bigger than Samuels.
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 5, 2012 5:44 PM CST reply actions
don't think he was. he wasn't sign after his rookie contract expired
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 5, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
Samuel
was a #1 CB and he wanted the biggest payday at the time, deservedly so.
The difference with what the Pats can do and what the Chiefs can do comes down to Offense. The Pats can score with the best of them so their defense doesn’t need to be top shelf.
The Chiefs offense is in trouble if they are two scores down, so losing anyone on defense that can help keep the scoring gap close is pretty critical, IMO.
I don’t understand the idea of not resigning both of these guys. If there was a character issue then I’d let them walk, but these two have been team players since they got here and both of them have improved their game to the point of being respected in this league. You can’t count on that from the next guy up.
Flowers24. Good Post. BUT poor choice on the photo. Did Bowe make that catch?
You could have use my favorite photo of Bowe (towering over Leon Hall – not a shabby DB I might add)
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 5, 2012 5:50 PM CST reply actions
Yes he did
That was that great teardrop Orton threw towards the sidelines (If I remember correctly)
by craig in calgary on Jan 5, 2012 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
Bobbled it then caught it and somehow got his feet down and in
Was so close but they didn’t even give it a second look. Just another awesome 1st down for #82. Pay this man.
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Jan 5, 2012 6:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Flowers pic
IS WAY BETTER. Just cleared Champ’s fingertips (not a shabby corner) and got two heals in while falling out of bounds. Top 5 catches for Bowe easy this year.
The question should read "Doing Something With Them or Addressing their Future with the Team" Be the first priority
So long as we sign or trade them for good compensation, I am fine, but we need to make something great out of both of them.
I would like to keep them both, but I trust “The Don” and will go along with whatever he decides is best…
u got to keep both too good a talents
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
Nice Post Flowers
It did make a thought jump into my head
WHAT THE HELL HEAD COACH CANDIDATE WOULD NOT WANT TO COACH THIS TEAM?
sorry for screaming, but it seems no one wants to coach here.
We got tons of talented players, tons of cap (if you include the 20-25 Million not spent this year) we should have the ability to blow 150 Million next year on player salaries.
It boggles my mind that coaches are not lined up at the door to lead Kansas City
The only real impediment I can see
Wears #7. Any head coach willing to take Cassel as a starter at this point in Cassel’s career does not deserve to be a head coach beyond high school level.
Ancora imparo.
The Tipping Point?
Indianapolis might end up with 30-35 Million in QB’s this up-coming season.
Maybe Polian blinked, Irsay did not and fired his ass
It goes back to
Earlier in this thread when everyone was ripping Nick Wright for being “half wright”. It goes back to what Nick Wright said. He admitted with the reports that Jeff Fisher not wanting to coach in KC due to the fact that Hunt isn’t committed to winning. It’s a fact. God bless the Hunt family, specifically Lamar, but that is the way the Chiefs have been run since I can remember (about 15 years ago). We don’t go after free agents. We trade away or release tons of talent (Joe Horn, Tony Gonzalez, Rich Gannon, Brian Waters… the list goes on). The Hunts want to make all the money they can (and they should). However, it seems they don’t believe that consistently winning will get them enough revenue to replace what they spend.
two points :)
what Peterson did is what peterson did, Lamar’s guy
I agree winning NFL championships does not make money for the teams involved, More a Pride thing I think
Pioli has been said to be Clarks’ Guy (self-annoited maybe)
but after reading about the Polians in Indianapolis I could see how a GM thinks himself a consigliere
In the novel, a consigliere is an adviser or counselor to the boss, with the additional responsibility of representing the boss in important meetings both within the boss’s crime family and with other crime families. The consigliere is a close, trusted friend and confidant, the mob’s version of an elder statesman. He is devoid of ambition and dispenses disinterested advice. This passive image of the consigliere does not correspond with what little is known of real-life consiglieri.1
While Pioli might even think is he is a war-time consigliere
On the contrary
I agree winning NFL championships does not make money for the teams involved, More a Pride thing I think
Winning Championships builds a greater fan base and ultimately sells more tickets and merchandise.
by JayhawksNChiefs on Jan 6, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Wow
I didn’t finish my thought on Nick’s admission. He admitted he has been wrong about ripping Pioli for not going out and getting the players. He said if it’s true that Fisher doesn’t want to coach here because Hunt wont invest the money to put a team together. Say what you will about Nick, but the dude is right a lot and he readily admits to being wrong when he is. I think a lot of people put their Chiefs blinders on when he talks Chiefs. I love the guys analysis. Thank god it’s not more Jim Rome… Rome does the best interviews in the world, but that bag of D is the worst analyst in the world, I mean really? Really Rome? We are gonna say the same thing 5 times in a row different ways? Seriously? We are going to speak like a high school student writing an essay trying to reach their word requirement? Are you kidding? I’m just saying, if you are just tryin’ to fill time you gotta act like you know what you are talking about. Its just not gonna cut it. I mean you repeat yourself like no one heard you the first time around? …….
New Start
Chiefs need a great OC for head coach.DEf cords that become HC often treat the QB position as any other.In this era a team cant win like that you need a QB gunslinger & a great HC play caller.The Qb must be a priority & a great OC as a HC would make that happen.THe Packers Oc would be the ideal situation as Chiefs new HC.KC lets Bowe go bye bye to much $$.Sign FA WR from James JOnes from the Pack for much less.Make Carr a priority resign.The biggest move of the year Chiefs use new HC (Pack OC) to get FA QB gunslinger Matt Flynn.Enough of the average QB’s already (Cassel).Then new coach brings in LB coach from Packers Kevin Green as D cord.
WATERS
Brain Waters wanted to leave! uh there is this other cheap team out there that does not spend money and they are winners. (STEELERS) WHY DOES EVERYBODY ON HERE BASH HUNT AND Pioli ALL THE TIME ? CARR GETS PAID, BOWE WILL BE FRANCHISED. AND I HOPE TO GOD THAT GREENBAY GUY IS NOT THE MAN.
CORN HOLE KING
Because
WE ARE NOT WINNING ANY ^@#$ING GAMES. WE HAVN’T WON A PLAYOFF GAME SINCE… EXACTLY NO ONE REMEMBERS BECAUSE IT SEEMINGLY HAS NEVER HAPPENED. WE DON’T PONY UP THE DOUGH TO SIGN OUR OWN PLAYERS LIKE JARED ALLEN. WATERS WANTED TO LEAVE BUT WE HAD HIM UNDER CONTRACT AND HE IS STILL PLAYING AT A PRO BOWL LEVEL. NOW WE REPLACED HIM WITH LILJA WHO HASN’T CUT IT THIS YEAR SADLY. WE TRADED TONY GONZALEZ FOR MATT CASSEL. WE DON’T PAY PLAYERS THAT EARN IT. WE DON’T GO AFTER KEY FA THAT COULD SOLIDIFY SPOTS OF DESPERATION ON A TEAM WITH ZERO DEPTH. WE HAVE NO DEPTH BECAUSE WE ARE CHEAP. YOU ARE IGNORANT IF YOU THINK THE STEELERS ARE “CHEAP”. THEIR PLAYER SALARIES WERE 116 MILLION COMPARED TO THE CHIEFS AT 74.7 MILLION. THE STEELERS KEEP GUYS AROUND LIKE JAMES HARRISON (before turning into a huge roided out thug) AND TROY POLAMALU AND BEN ROETHLISBERGER (who they drafted like a franchise QB or something) RYAN CLARK, CASEY HAMPTON (a NT for a 3-4 defense) BRETT KEISEL, SMITH, TIMMONS, FOOTE, IKE TAYLOR…. THEY ALSO BUILD THEIR TEAM FOR DEPTH. AFTER THEY SIGN THEIR GUYS THEY DRAFT TO REPLACE PROJECTED LOSES IN ADVANCE WHERE AS WE HAVE HAD ZERO DEPTH BEHIND OUR TALENT WHICH MEANS WITH INJURY OR CONTRACT DISPUTES WE ARE UP A CREEK. WE HAVE ZERO LEVERAGE IN NEGOTIATIONS. WE CAN’T REPLACE PLAYERS AND NO ONE WANTS TO COME HERE AS A FA BECAUSE WE A) WONT PAY AND B) DON’T WIN.
DO YOU GET THE POINT OR DO I NEED TO CONTINUE IN CAPS LIKE A FOOL?
agree with your points though Pioli has to date re-signed valued pieces of this team
whether his own or Herm/Dick guys
i know
He has done a good job. Hunt however isn’t off the hook. All the guys that have resigned have signed well under market value prior to the end of their contracts. The exception being Tamba Hali. I’m not nearly the Pioli hater than I am a cheap owner that doesn’t want to invest enough to actually win consistently.
GIVE IT TIME
I WAS DRUNK AND DIDNT REALIZE I WAS IN CAPS SOORY DUDE , DRUNK AGAIN SO IM IN CAPS PEACE LOVE AND HAPPINESS LOL MY BROTHER! LOVE THE HATE.ALSO THIS IS ONLY THE 3RD YEAR LET THEM BUILD SOME DEPTH! DIDNT MEAN TO STRIKE A NERVE? LOVE YA CHIEFS -NATION !
CORN HOLE KING
please no. no
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
YEAH!
Our next Todd Haley! WOOT! I bet he is a candidate to make Chiefs fans happy due to the ties to KC… Gotta have 5 candidates…. 1 minority candidate which Romeo doesn’t count, because he is currently on the staff… it’s… whatevs
I just saw it on the news
It’s true they are interviewing him tomorrow….now why or for what I have no understanding
97 percent say yes. ok pioli. go do your job here. you did it with flowers and hali, get it done with carr and bowe.
just please sign carr so we can know that tagging bowe will happen and then the concern goes to mcclain, and maybe even colquitt who has 1 year left
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
Bowe is core to the offense
How many teams run around trying to get two strong corners? All of them. People pay stupid money to do it. We already have two here. Let’s get the loose one tightened up.
And, let’s get the “loose end” tightened up too.
I don't trust Scott Pioli period. He hasn't done anything in 3 years that tells me he is trustworthy or that he will not let one of these guys walk. gn
by NFL season ticket holder on Jan 5, 2012 9:09 PM CST reply actions
You mean except re-sign all the other core guys whose contracts came up?
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
Cant help but feel giddy on the prospect on next year,
if Pioli can work his magic and keep Carr and Bowe ill be estatic. That and if we do get a good HC, OC, and Crennel as DC it will be great. The emergence of the Defense, Moeaki/Berry/Charles returning to form, and some draft picks could get us back on taking AFC west title again. Add some O-line upgrades, another TE/DE/ILB/S for depth then we got a contending team on our hands. Yep cant wait for next season people :D
Do you smell what the Chiefs are cooking?
An a%#whooping and BBQ!!
If it does kill you Steve
Can I haz your car? I put a hole in my oil pan on new years (:
Jamaal Charles is here to kick ass and chew bubble gum; and he's all outta bubble gum.
by His Royal Greatness on Jan 5, 2012 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
IT...
would sure be nice IF he went out and got a few players who could play right away and STOP trying to draft and develop! MOST of the better players on this team are carry overs from Peterson: Tamba Hali, Dwayne Bowe, Jamaal Charles, Brandon Flowers, Brandon Carr and Derrick Johnson! I SAY…he gets an ultimatum PUBLICLY that if we don’t WIN a playoff game next season, his butt is FIRED! He seems to be getting comfy! I guess some of us are not patient OR we are afraid that we will be here in 20 years waiting for Pioli to deliver like we did with Peterson!
WAR Kansas City Chiefs KINGDOM!!!
by Jason Drue Keith on Jan 6, 2012 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
I Tell Ya what's the SIGN to FIRE his arse
If he renegotiates with #7 and extends the contract OR
if after 2013, he picks up the option for 2014
A fan (of italian heritage) of the KC chiefs will put a contract out for him.
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 6, 2012 12:59 AM CST up reply actions
Best receiver since Otis Taylor???
I think not. I would like to remind you of a certain Robb Thomas, who on my highly touted, triple checked simulations on Super Tecmo Bowl REGULARLY puts up 2000 yard seasons due to the play action pass. I defy ANY of you to go against hard facts!
No seriously, if we get rid of Dwayne Bow and/or Brandon Carr I’m cheering for someone else next season. Not even because of those 2 guys, but because this means Pioli/ Hunt/ Crennel or whoever doesn’t give a crap about this team.
The Kansas City Chiefs, ruining playoff hopes since 2010
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