The Josh McDaniels-To-The-Chiefs Talk Has Dried Up
by Joel Thorman on Jan 5, 2012 10:30 AM CST
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One of the constants while tracking the Kansas City Chiefs coaching rumor mill has been Josh McDaniels. Whether he was coming here to be a head coach (he's not) or in an offensive coordinator role, a lot of the rumor mill stuff has involved McDaniels coming to KC.
Lately, though, it seems the Josh McDaniels-to-KC talk has dried up, even as the offensive coordinator.
"I don't think Josh McDaniels is going to be an offensive coordinator in Kansas City," NFL Network's Michael Lombardi said on Wednesday. "I think there will be some other opportunities down the road, probably shortly, for Josh McDaniels. No longer in St. Louis with the Rams being fired so I don't think Kansas City's in the cards."
McDaniels, as far as I know, hasn't technically been fired but the Rams recognized he could end up leaving.
While Lombardi reports that McDaniels-to-KC is no longer expected to happen, he does still predict that Romeo Crennel will end up being the full-time head coach. Despite a couple of the Chiefs coaching candidates getting out there, it seems like most everyone still believes Crennel will get that job.
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Really. See, God does answer prayers.
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
Did someone Tebow?
You Play to Win the game!!!
by Wichita Chief on Jan 5, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
Take careful aim, first.
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
Get him right in the ass
as he’s running AWAY from KC!
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
Ok then
Time to start looking into every coach that has ever worked under Pioli for our new OC…
Oh wont that be fun
What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!
Give the job to Crennel.
We need to make a decision and get out OC and DC in place.
romeo and weis that would be nice
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 5, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
Riuniti and Ice - So Nice
Figured that is what you were going for in case others aren’t old enough to remember that commercial.
Polarizing figure
McD doesn’t have the best reputation but with a past working ties with Pioli and Crennel I wouldn’t be surprised if the talk about OC heats up again down the road if he is officially out of a job in STL. I also think that if brought on as OC, expectations would have to be made up front about how far his reach of power would be. And while I dislike McD I can’t say that if he became OC that I wouldn’t at least be interested to see what he could do with this team…as long as Brandon Lloyd doesn’t follow suit – I like Lloyd but again, cronyism is a part of the NFL and additions are sometimes made based on affiliation…I’d rather stick with what we’ve got though. My overall opinion, however, I hope the Josh McD talk dries completely!
McHoodie has totally misused and ruined the Rams offense
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
It kinda looked like Mike Martz offense
Get the QB killed and not using the RB at the right time, like down on the goalline.
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006
Agreed!
It didn’t look like an offense managed by a “guru.” Though with what he was able to do with Cassel and Orton respectively, I can’t say I wouldn’t be interested to see what he’s got for us if we were forced to watch McHoodie step in as OC. Though as I mentioned and I believe most would agree, I would feel better once the Josh McD talk comes to a complete halt.
I'll rest easier when the McDaniels-to-Chiefs talk is completely dead and burried!
Until then stupid stuff can still happen.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM CST reply actions
I'm probably more worried about McDaniels coming here now....
It has seemed with Pioli when things got the quietest it usually indicated that something was about to happen. I’m not resting yet. I don’t want McDaniels here. His stench of failure with the donkeys and the rumors of his cheating are still too fresh for my taste.
Stone footwear for the Scrubs!!
Interviews / The Todd Haley Effect
I think interviewing other candidates is just a negotiating tactic with RAC. Bring in a few good candidates and negotiate a better deal for the club.
Todd Haley’s finger wagging surely killed any chance of McDaniels joining the Chiefs. It and a hundred other stupid, immature actions also probably killed Haley’s shot to be a head coach (maybe even OC) again in this league.
Id like to see the OC from GB
hired as HC( i dont think he will make a lateral move) and bring Matt Flynn with him to run his offense…..Romeo retain his DC job
Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli need to IMPRESS me in 2012....No Settling this year Chiefs Fans!!
Philbin? wouldn't be against bringing him in as OC but still prefer Crennel as HC by far
and Flynn … meh, one game (or even one season) does not a great QB make (see: Cassel, Matt)
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Everytime i have seen Flynn he has impressed me...
And Philbin not only knows offense, he also used to coach O Line…and will likely be coming off winning back to back Super Bowls….We have seen Crennels results as a Head Coach…Romeo is very laid back. I think if things start going south, players will lose respect for him and start walking on him…the interaction i have seen between him and the players is more “buddy buddy” than “coach player”……just my opinion..
Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli need to IMPRESS me in 2012....No Settling this year Chiefs Fans!!
Not that hard to do playing on the Packers, and playing bad defenses.
And we haven’t seen Crennel’s results as a HC yet, at least not for the Chiefs. As an Interim he’s 2-1, and that’s pretty damn good when the loss was by a FG.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 5, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
Matt Flynn
Matt Flynn had an awesome game against New England when Rogers went down last season with a concusion.
Say what?
He doesn’t even call the plays in GB and you want him to be our HC.
Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.
by joplin chiefs fan on Jan 5, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
I dont know how much he actually did in GB
That is the biggest issue I would have with him being the HC. Most OC under a HC that is offensive minded and calls plays dont get to do anything but breakdown the D and form a gamplan.
What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!
Philbin = Haley
Benefited from a great head coach and dynamic offense.
Haley had Whisenhunt, Warner, Fitz, Boldin etc
Philbin had McCarthy, Rodgers, Jennings, Nelson, Findley etc.
Seems like the exact same hire to me.
by craig in calgary on Jan 5, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
Except the people themselves couldn't be more different
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
See, I didn't have a problem per se with Haley and his demeanor.
I kind of liked raging lunatic Todd.
My problem was consistantly getting blown out at home by teams like the Bills and the Dolphins. How can we lose to the Dolphins in a wildly uncompetitive game and then 2 weeks later beat “the greatest team of all time” quite soundly? It had to be preparation.
by craig in calgary on Jan 5, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Yep, too often Haley's teams did not show up.
The number of blowout losses under him was staggering.
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
Philbin comes up with the gameplan for the Pack
I’m sure he’d keep our guys prepared.
Haley’s demeanor was just inconsistent, and this year especially he just didn’t look the same on the sideline.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 5, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
That could have something to do with his demeanor though
A guy who is freaking out could theoretically make his team more “tight” and lose their edge when they fall behind.
However, I agree that it’s tough to take the dude seriously as a great OC when he’s got Rodgers throwing the ball.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
He's been there longer than that - before McCarthy
Philbin has been with GB for 8 years, he came on in ‘03 as asst. OL coach, then moved to TE/OL coach. When McCarthy came in he was moved to OC and has been there for 5 years (’06-’11). For 19 years prior to that he coached in the college ranks.
No doubt he has benefited from solid players to work with, but we’ve seen teams with “quality players” not perform well almost as much as we’ve seen the opposite.
I would love Philbin to come as OC, but probably not as HC. I don’t know if that move is good for him or not though. McCarthy isn’t going anywhere anytime soon in GB so he’s going to have to look outside for opportunities. Could he be brought in with the idea that he could replace Crennel when he retires? Tough to say – but I do think Philbin is a quality guy.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 5, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
I love how things supposedly change so much overnight.
I “don’t think” he’s any more or less of a candidate than he was yesterday. Notice how the word “think” is in every one of Lombardi’s sentences. He’s speculating, nothing more. C’mon, Joel, you don’t see that?
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
how dare you!
Lombradi’s words are the words of god!
He shall smite you
How dare you call Lombardi a God
What did he say the Kansas City Chiefs don’t measure up to a NFL team?
Before the AFL the NFL sucked. Lombardi could not coach today unlike Hank Stram who was creative on his play calling and were using some of his plays today. If you want to call somebody a God you should be talking about Hank Stram. Not a Coach who had no respect for the Chiefs.
Wrong Lombardi, vegas.
They are related, but that’s still the wrong Lombardi you speak of. This guy is an ex-GM turned commentator (former owner of National Football Post)…also the crappy personnel guy who Belichick had nothing to do with after they were both fired in Cleveland.
Talk about your plenty, talk about your ills/
One man gathers what another man spills
by go_saleaumua on Jan 5, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
Pretty much have to decide on a HC before finding an OC, right?
Unless McDaniels just has no interest in working in KC for some reason, and Lombardi knows this, it just sounds like random speculation from him.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
i feel sorry for RAC
he took a shitty team and made a great defense.
if that’s not enough to make him HC, nothing will
I think he'll get the job in the end
But you can’t blame Pioli & Hunt for doing their Due Diligence on other potential candidates. Besides, what if RAC says that he plans on retiring in two years…do you really want to hire him then start all over again in 24 months?
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
They still have to go through interviews regardless
They can’t just appoint Crennel HC without looking at other candidates – especially minority candidates. Remember that Crennel doesn’t count as the “rooney rule” candidate because he’s internal.
Can’t fault them for performing due diligence. RAC is a veteran coach, I think he’s been around the league long enough to not let something like this ruffle his feathers.
If I were a candidate, I would rather the team take a look at everyone and decide that I was the best fit rather than just hand it to me because I felt like I deserved it. If he’s chosen, it means they felt he was the best man for the job and a better option than anyone else.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 5, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
Crennels defense
Was ok last year. We controlled the clock because of the running game last year and kept the defense off the field. The second half of this year they came together. Look how we played the Steelers, Pats and the Packers, we were pretty solid.
Crennel has come up with a good game plan to win on defense. Were close to being a top 5 defense. Were a lot closer than people think on offense to having a dangerous offense.
Lets see what Crennel can do as a HC.
That is what I'm thinking too
Romeo obviously has the locker room, get a new set of coordinators in place and do it quick.
just wondering...
What’s so great about mcDanials? From what I’ve seen, he’s not that special
Philbin = Haley
And Flynn= Cassel. Do we really want to do that again? I don’t want a QB caretaker. I want a legit QB that could look good in any system. I’m tired of retread QBs. Draft a legit prospect and delevop him.
by Brandt34 on Jan 5, 2012 12:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Philbin ≠ Haley
Draft a legit prospect and delevop him.
It’s already in progress – however, how long the development may take is a different thing altogether
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 5, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
QB are only as good as their surrounding
If we had Brady or Manning and we had the play calling we had for most of the year, they would not be successful because of the O line.
If you look at Rodgers, Brees, Manning, and Brady they all have creative play calling on offense. If you want to be an elite offense you have to have creative play calling. Manning’s O line sucks, he does a no huddle offense a lot. When we did a no huddle, fast temp offense we were pretty good on offense.
We couldn’t run the ball this year unless the pass opened up the run. I hear TJ is to slow,
Dexter is not slow, He had a lot of no gain this year. We need to work on the O line and have a creative OC. I’m not worried about Cassel or Orton.
What's to say the next OC isn't already on staff?
Does anybody here think Zorn may get the OC job? He’s done a respectable job as a QB coach and he held the OC position for the Skins for all of what, two months?
Just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys.
Tamba had some damn interesting comments in that Mellinger story.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Now it needs to shrivel up and disintegrate into powder and blow away
Leaving only a nazi symbol behind.
by MasterChief on Jan 5, 2012 4:39 PM CST via mobile reply actions
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