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Good morning! More updates, opinion, and speculation on the head coaching search in today's Kansas City Chiefs news. Enjoy.

Whether the Chiefs next coach should be Crennel or an external candidate, arguments can be made for both. The fact remains that only two head coaches in Chiefs history have been able to make more than one playoff appearance and both are in the team's Hall of Fame.

The Chiefs want their next head coach to be a consistent winner, consistently competing for championships. Those expectations put whoever is hired the same circle as Stram and Marty Schottenheimer.

As the search continues, it's not about external vs. internal, it's about finding the right fit.

Head Coaching Search: Internal Or External Hire? from The Mothership

Perhaps interim head coach Romeo Crennel isn't such a slam dunk for the Chiefs' permanent job after all.

Multiple reports on Wednesday had Green Bay Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin interviewing in Kansas City on Wednesday night for the Chiefs' head coaching position.

Chiefs Reportedly Interview The Packers' Joe Philbin from KC Star

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Three key offensive players lost to left knee injuries in three consecutive games. Moeaki, Berry and Charles were the poster boys for the Chiefs nightmarish start to the 2011 season.

Now, in 2012, the three are tackling rehabilitation together, even competing with one another during weight training sessions.

"I was the first one to do it, so they would ask questions at first about what to expect," Moeaki said.

"We're one and two weeks apart, but as far as the big picture we're on the same schedule now. When we're doing exercising drills, I'll try to sneak in an extra 10 pounds on those guys. It's a little thing, but we compete with everything."

Moeaki, Berry And Charles Turn Injury Rehab Into Competition from The Mothership

The Chiefs already have started their head coaching search and have had "several interviews," a Kansas City source told Schefter...

...A source told ESPN.com's Bill Williamson that Crennel is expected to interview for the Chiefs job in the next several days.

Crennel, the former Cleveland Browns head coach, said he'll listen to other opportunities "at the appropriate time," even if they're outside of Kansas City.

Source: Chiefs, Joe Philbin To Talk from ESPN

Daniel E. LaBlance was arrested and held on $50,000 bond. DNA found at the scene matched LaBlance, who was already on parole for burglary.

Some of McCluster's items were found at LaBlance's residence.

LaBlance had been convicted of second-degree murder, and has had several drug arrests.

Felon Arrested In Dexter McCluster Home Burglary from SportingNews

There are a couple of other interesting candidates with Bears connections, although both had moved on before Smith took over in 2004...

...Todd Haley is another former Bears assistant out of work after he was fired as the Kansas City Chiefs' head coach during their disappointing 7-9 season.

But Haley guided K.C. to a 10-6 record in 2010, matching the Chiefs' win total for the previous three seasons combined.

Haley was the Bears' wide receivers coach from 2001-03, and he helped the Arizona Cardinals reach Super Bowl XLIII as offensive coordinator.

Bears Should Make Tice Offensive Coordinator from The Chicago Daily Herald

Crennel has spoken, both literally and figuratively, and I have to believe Pioli and Chiefs Chairman Clark Hunt have heard him loud and clear. Within the next several days, we should be hearing the official announcement of Crennel being named the next head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. If not, he certainly will get strong consideration for one of the five other NFL coaching vacancies.

The Chiefs' shouldn't and can't allow that happen. Crennel deserves to be here.

It's Time For The Chiefs To Stop Playing Around; Make Romeo Crennel Head Coach from Examiner.com

Kansas City: The Chiefs must find a coach who can function well within the system put in place by GM Scott Pioli. The coach must be a willing partner and not easily disgruntled. Pioli should not stray far from the tree in New England. If he does, he must find a candidate who is willing to simply coach the team and let the personnel department handle player procurement, as is the case with Mike McCarthy in Green Bay. The favorite and probably best choice would be Romeo Crennel, the current interim head coach.

One Size Doesn't Fit All When It Comes To NFL Coaches from NFL.com

Overall talent

Bucs: When you're outscored by an average of 13 points per game, there are holes everywhere. A young defensive line is stocked with premium draft picks, but the linebackers and secondary are substandard. Offensively, Tampa Bay desperately needs more speed. Grade: 5.

Jaguars: The league's most inept offense relies too much on Pro Bowl running back Maurice Jones-Drew. The Jags need a major upgrade at receiver, but are sturdy in the trenches and at linebacker. Grade: 5.

Dolphins: Miami has a few dangerous weapons in running back Reggie Bush and receiver Brandon Marshall. The rush defense is outstanding and LB Cameron Wake is a premier pass rusher. Grade: 6.

Rams: Running back Steven Jackson must be tired of carrying this offense. Injuries exposed a glaring lack of depth. Receiver and cornerback are key positions of need. Grade: 3.

Chiefs: There is something to build around with running back Jamaal Charles and safety Eric Berry come off season-ending injuries. Berry and linebackers Tamba Hali and Derrick Johnson are playmakers, but KC is weak in the trenches. Grade: 5.

Comparing The Open NFL Coaching Positions from Tampa Bay Online

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Really?

Maurice Jones-Drew scored 11 touchdowns (8 rushing, 3 rec). Outside of Bowe, we have no one with more than two. I don’t see how we can say we’re much better than anyone.

by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 9:03 AM CST up reply actions  

??

1 better skill player doesn’t equal half a dozen better skill players.

MJD is the Jags only good player (pretty much at least).

by bossmanham on Jan 5, 2012 9:12 AM CST up reply actions  

That goes back to the play of the QB position.

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by KingChief on Jan 5, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Yikes

So Gabbert is better than #7, Palko and Orton? Ouch.

by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I would say you and me are better than Palko

Orton only had 3 games with the team

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by KingChief on Jan 5, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

True

on all accounts. Poor Palko sucks worse than Keanu Reeves. LOL

by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd take Keanu in the Replacements

any day… over Palko.

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by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 5, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Great Question

Have to go with Hackman. He coached the Hoosiers too.

by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

gotta take the guy that has a tatoo of Roy Orbison on his ass...

First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...

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by SFLChief on Jan 5, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey!

No one puts Johnny Utah in a corner!!

RIP Swayze.

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by severn58 on Jan 5, 2012 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Didn't look that way when we played this year....

that game wasn’t exacly close

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by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 5, 2012 7:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Wasn't that during Haleys "training camp"

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by skunk420 on Jan 5, 2012 8:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Doesn't mean they have a better team

We beat GB, doesn’t mean we’re in a better spot than GB

by KCinIL on Jan 5, 2012 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

We didn't just get beat by Miami

We got humiliated….at home

Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.

by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 5, 2012 8:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I like to not think of those times

The Chiefs season start the week of the Packers game, and I’m sticking to it!

by KCinIL on Jan 5, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Miami OWNED us in the trenches.

Don’t kid yourself by their record. They’re ahead in the trenches.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Jan 5, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely.

And with a QB upgrade, they are a playoff caliber team. Not a lot of superstars, but solid throughout.

by BinSC on Jan 5, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

kc is a qb and two o lineman from having a sick offense as for the d resign carr and add some depth

by arrowheadsoldier56 on Jan 5, 2012 6:39 AM CST via Android app reply actions  

nt...

We nee a NT,ILB,and depth on defense. thats if we resign carr.

by wolfpack0735 on Jan 5, 2012 6:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Giving up on Powe? This makes me sad.

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by Brsrkr on Jan 5, 2012 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Even with RAC as HC

he didn’t see the field. This doesn’t bode very well.

by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

He saw the field

Not much.. but he was there!

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Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 5, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

We played a lot of subpackages

Couldn’t justify having another pure NT active, Gordon showed he could sub in for Gregg at NT to give him breathers.

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Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 5, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

No we don't

That’s how we counter 3+ WR sets.

Be dumb as hell to stick to the base 3-4 going against 3+WR sets

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Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 5, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

If we're gonna counter that many sets

maybe we need to do away with Powe all together and find another guy that fits a sub package then.

by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Why is that?

Cause Gregg is a long term answer? Gordon? They are able to take their time and coach Powe up.. not a bad thing.

Gilberry/Bailey/Gordon/Tjax/Dorsey/Gregg/Powe/etc every Dlinemen can play in the subsets, depending on down/distance.

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Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 5, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

If we're going to rely so heavily on subsets

Are we not wasting a roster spot? The defense played much better with a true NT in the game, yet we have to have several different types of NTs on the team. I guess I’m just in the afternoon fog here, but it seems counter-productive to think we’re gonna need our loafers at some point and not just the work boots.

by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

We still run the base, we need NTs

Gordon who plays DE/NT is in those subsets to push the pocket as well as take blockers when the coaches believe there is a chance for draws/runs. Gregg is not a long term answer(wouldn’t surprise me if he is not here next year) we are grooming Powe to be the NTotF

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Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 5, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

At least Powe got to play

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Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 5, 2012 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

A 6th round rookie without a training camp.

Meh.

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 5, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

We are not that far away from

being a very good football team. As a matter of fact, we are not that far away from being a scary good football team.

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by G.L. on Jan 5, 2012 6:52 AM CST reply actions  

on the flip side ...

… we know it doesn’t take much for our team, or any team, to be scary bad

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by upamtn on Jan 5, 2012 8:55 AM CST up reply actions  

same old shit

year after year its the same old shit, well maybe next year.as a long time chiefs fan this gets old.pioli needs to get it right this time or young clark hunt will start over again.spend that money on some top notch free agents to fill some major holes.we were just a field goal away from winning the west this year.

by chiefsfool on Jan 5, 2012 7:54 AM CST reply actions  

Can the coach get along with Pioli who wants to call all the shots.

And if you look at their draft, you have to question whether Pioli knows talent.
Their first draft was a complete disaster with the best pick their last pick.
The second draft was fine but you have to question the second round picks of McCluster and Arenas. They could have had th NE TE Gradkowski or waited to the third round and selected NO TE Graham instead of Moeoki.
This years draft is questionable with only Houston playing much this year.

by Mustang fever on Jan 5, 2012 7:55 AM CST reply actions  

Think about what you post

Look the draft is hard you win some you lose some, it is not a video game sure we could have waited a picked Graham over Mo but I am sure The crystal ball was not working that day. Bottom line is if I knew then what I know now I would be rich. Thats not the way it works, so when I read post like this I think to myself these people are IDIOTS. Hind sight is 20/20 my friend, I am sure when Tom Brady was picked in the 6th round they thought man he is going to the hall of fame. oh ya what if we would have picked him? STUPID POST!!!!!

by ChiefsfaninFlorida on Jan 5, 2012 8:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Amen

He had a bad draft, and had a great draft. Berry, Dex, Arenas, ToMo, Big Jon, Lewis, Sheffield<——how in the world do people bash that draft? Tired of these woulda coulda shouldas from people after the fact.

by KCinIL on Jan 5, 2012 8:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Then you better start ignoring sports media...

Because all it is is coulda woulda shoulda.

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by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 5, 2012 8:52 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I know

I’m not saying the dudes money every time at all, but he’s brought in a hell of alot of talent. Has he missed, of course. But even this year with bringing in McClain, Breaston, drafting Baldwin(still up in the air of course with little time he had) drafted Hudson, Houston, Bailey, I mean thats some serious damn talent we had contributing THIS year. I think he’s done a pretty good job so far. Injuries obviously slowed our process, but thats nobodies fault. I see even bigger things comin this year.

by KCinIL on Jan 5, 2012 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Forgot Orton

Which in my opinion I think shows he’s not tied to the hip with Cassel. I think we re-sign Orton and watch him beat out Cassel and take this team to a top 10 offense

by KCinIL on Jan 5, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Bringing Orton in says nothing about KCQB#7

All it says is that Pioli still thought we could win the division

Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.

by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 5, 2012 9:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It says alot, IF(which I think we will) re-sign em

You really still not gonna call the guy Cassel? I mean come on.

by KCinIL on Jan 5, 2012 9:03 AM CST up reply actions  

He lost his name privilege this year

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by KingChief on Jan 5, 2012 9:16 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

As long as he's the member of the Chiefs

No he shouldn’t. But me arguing that with the same guy who yelled and screamed we should’ve draft Sanchez is pointless I guess.

by KCinIL on Jan 5, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Lost it before that

Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.

by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 5, 2012 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I've taken it away too

But you did it long before I came around.

by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed!

Orton at least shows Pioli is addressing/ trying to improve the position, but if he still feels Cassel is the starter…uh oh! Orton will at least provide that competition and never allow either QB to feel comfortable in their respective role as “starter.” But I also don’t feel like a lock for the SB with either. Maybe I’m off?

I feel that going into next season with both Orton and Cassel is better than Cassel and Palko (surely everyone agrees! ha). But I feel like having either would be the perfect backup to a QBOTF. Am I wrong there? I feel like most would agree with those sentiments…

by JMagsKC1 on Jan 5, 2012 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Orton could at least win us a playoff game

He was here only a month and put up better numbers than Mattiocre. Palko should be banned from all Chiefs facilities.

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by KingChief on Jan 5, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Ha

It’s funny how you give Cassel some stupid nickname, and yet call the worst QB the Chiefs had in decades by his actual name

by KCinIL on Jan 5, 2012 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

One gave us 2.5 years of avarege to below average play

and the only way the other should have been in the stadium was if he bought a ticket. Haley having that guy on the team is a good reason why you don’t give your friends a job. They will get you fired.

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by KingChief on Jan 5, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Orton was just a standard waiver-wire QB when their #1 went down.

Said nothing about commitment to Cassel. Said everything about readiness to play in the QBs behind Cassel.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Jan 5, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Pioli and the drafts...

I see what you’re saying ChiefsfaninFlorida and agree with you in large for the most part. However, Pioli has taken on the reputation as the “talent” man who can supposedly find a gold nugget in a coal mine (similar to what the draft is essentially). In terms of looking back and saying “We could have picked up Gronkowski…” well that’s a should’ve, would’ve could’ve argument in hindsight, agreed! BUT, looking back there is something to be said about the outcome of his drafts so far and makes you wonder how he’ll address the QB situation or O-line through this next draft…it’s this time or never to find that gold nugget this year to set this team back on the course it’s meant for!!!

by JMagsKC1 on Jan 5, 2012 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't want to leave out

the fact that I do feel like he has picked up talent along the way. Houston has impressed me in large for sure and I think he’s addressed areas that will bring long term success, but the misses he’s had in vital areas concerns me along with the fact that he allegedly feels Cassel is the “man”…that is an automatic fail in my book. Just hoping for something in either the QB or O line that brings long term success to those areas. I hate seeing anything mediocre in areas that need the most improvement!

by JMagsKC1 on Jan 5, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions  

On the same page...

He’s brought on talent that will bring long term success to specific areas. It’s the most important areas I want to see Pioli bring in long term success. Guys like Moeaki and McCluster will never be get the separation they need consistently to from opposing defenses without a QB and stellar O line protection. Based on what he’s given us so far you also can’t say McCluster was a solid pick yet. He’s not the homerun hitter we expected though he’s not being used the way he should be used in my opinion, likewise its likely a result of an O line and QB situation that D’s don’t respect…doesn’t leave him room to do much (I think he should be used like a Welker with today’s changes in the passing game). That said, we are on the same page. Pioli has made some good moves that will bring on success in certain areas but with our defense set, we need to make the right moves NOW on offense. Without a long term QB candidate I can’t feel comfortable…I can’t be a fair weather fan either so it would be hard to watch another season of mediocre offensive action.

by JMagsKC1 on Jan 5, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I still don't fault him too much for 2009

That draft overall was not very good in hindsight and Pioli’s system for talent evaluation is completely different than what the Chiefs had been doing.

Tyson has become solid and him and Dorsey had a pretty good year. Succup solidified a position that should not have been so messed up in the first place.

I know a lot of people think Dex wasn’t worth where he was drafted but the last few games in the season he looked like he was finally hitting stride. If he continues that into next season he’s going to be the guy we hoped he’d be back then.

Arenas, how can you not love this guy?? Most of the season he was only second to some guy named Devon Hester in returns. With an improved special teams, he’s gonna be able to start taking those to the house and he’s done pretty well filling in the secondary. The last play in Denver where he hurt his ankle was just a great effort by an individual. Also, let’s not forget that kick ass wildcat TD in Oak!

I also think last years draft has some more talent that we just haven’t seen yet (looking at you Powe).

by Spiderwomn69 on Jan 5, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed ten fold...

At the same time this post is better then those….Lets trade Dorsey and Bowe for the Rams 1st and 2nd pick of the draft then we will draft Luck or Griffen then we can send Matt Cassel and their 2nd for Tom Brady posts….

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by groundedchevy on Jan 5, 2012 8:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I say we trade Palko for Brady.

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by TRSChief on Jan 5, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Deal

see if we can get Green-Ellis to boot.

by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Man, you and I should be co-GM's of the Chiefs

I don’t know why people can’t think of these kind of trades?

I mean, it just seems so simple.

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by TRSChief on Jan 5, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I know, right?

Just like the old video games where you can turn off trade restrictions. I can turn David DeJesus into Carl Crawford AND Jacoby Ellsbury. Boo-yah!

by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Questionable picks in 2010?

McCluster has a similar ceiling as Sproles when he’s used properly, Arenas was statistically our best CB and is a good ST coach away from being one of the best returners in the league and Moeaki is easily a better TE then Graham. Grahams numbers are inflated based on who his QB is and is well below average when it comes to blocking.

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by GenericBrand on Jan 5, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes

He’s a free agent next eyar and Hue Jackson mentioned its a possibility they bring him back. However, I think Campbell knows he’s still got life in him and won’t settle for a backup role. If we didn’t re-sign Orton, I could see this as a possibility, though again, I wouldn’t feel any better about the QB situation than I do now if we signed Campbell. He’s got a strong arm but decision making as poor as Cassel. Even with a stout run game in OAK (DMC and Bush), defenses still didn’t respect Campbell and defended the run more often than not. Doesn’t exactly put a lot of confidence in me and Hue Jackson probably felt the same, which is why he grabbed Palmer!

by JMagsKC1 on Jan 5, 2012 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

he grabbed Palmer because Campbell was injured and down for the remainer of the season ...
which is why he grabbed Palmer

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by upamtn on Jan 5, 2012 9:12 AM CST up reply actions  

He didn't just grab Palmer...

Hue Jackson POUNCED all over Palmer as the starter of the future for the Raiders. True that it took a season-ending injury for that to happen, but probably a situation Hue was pleased to take advantage of. Campbell will only be a backup for the Raiders from here on out if he re-signs. Plus, look at what Hue convinced the Raiders organization to give up for Palmer (not a surprise given the Raiders’ track record), but gave up a lot for Palmer. Campbell was paid $4.5 million for 2011 and will expect a contract that matches his previous salary but I don’t think they’ll do that with all they invested in Palmer now. In other words, Hue wasn’t all that convinced in Campbell and we shouldn’t be either. He’ll be searching for a starting job soon. I could see Campbell being an upgrade in Seattle maybe or in Jacksonville unless they stick with Gabbert. Surely other teams would be interested as well.

by JMagsKC1 on Jan 5, 2012 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

The guy hasn't had the same OC in back to back seasons

I take him over orton and cassel but I would rather see stanzi start next season if we don’t trade up in the draft

by KC_Chiefs92 on Jan 5, 2012 9:59 AM CST reply actions  

Nope. Not at all.

Just saying if you make the argument that Campbell hasn’t been able to be who he can be as a QB, b/c he hasn’t had the same OC for two consecutive seasons… Well that same argument applies to Cassel as well.

As for me, I’m done with the Cassel experiment. It’s time for our very own, in house, from the draft, QBotF.

by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

True I like cassel but after watching orton move down the field I lost faith in him

by KC_Chiefs92 on Jan 5, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Good point...

You can’t overlook the fact that Campbell has had more OC and QB coach changes than most throughout his whole career as a starter and still puts up decent numbers. He needs a home that is consistent in it’s staff and team – if that happens he could turn his career around again. Unfortunately, I don’t want to him to start over in KC. I would want to build around someone else and see what we can build with fresh potential (maybe Stanzi if we don’t draft Griffin III haha), though your point is well taken!

by JMagsKC1 on Jan 5, 2012 10:02 AM CST reply actions  

And he played for some bad teams.

I want Stanzi to start if we keep the same QBs for next season

by KC_Chiefs92 on Jan 5, 2012 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

So is drafting a QB in the first round. I’m sick of back ups coming to KC

by KC_Chiefs92 on Jan 5, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

You don’t know what a player can do if he doesn’t play

by KC_Chiefs92 on Jan 5, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

But you know what Campbell can do

and Campbell was surrounded with the most talent he’s ever had on a team this year. So would I rather take my chances with a top QB out of the draft? Absolutely. Or with a guy like Stanzi? Sure. Why not? If we keep either Orton or Cassel or both on the roster as backup/mentor, I would rather take a chance with a fresh unknown than starting the season with Orton or Cassel…or even Campbell for that matter because you already know what you got. I don’t want another backup either. At least going with someone who’s potential could be potentially high I would feel better about that risk than someone who’s shown that their ceiling isn’t as high as a sure fire bet for a Super Bowl run. I hope I’m not way off on making this case. Anyone agree? Disagree? If so, why?

by JMagsKC1 on Jan 5, 2012 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

i'm surprised no one else pointed this out

but it appears that the mothership made a faux pas

Three key offensive players lost to left knee injuries in three consecutive games. Moeaki, Berry and Charles were the poster boys for the Chiefs nightmarish start to the 2011 season.

i mean i could be wrong, but i’m pretty sure berry isn’t on offense.

Seriously, when have I ever been sarcastic?

by Leaf on Jan 5, 2012 10:08 AM CST reply actions  

We lost his pick 6s this season I’m sure he would have had a couple against tebow

by KC_Chiefs92 on Jan 5, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Coaching thought...

I’ve been thinking about it this way…Other teams are looking for coaches but I haven’t heard Romeo’s name come up on anyone’s list. The man can officially start interviewing all over the place as HC if he wants, can’t he? I haven’t seen anything that mentions he’s interviewing anywhere else. This either means teams aren’t interested in Romeo as HC, or that Romeo knows he’s the next HC in line at Arrowhead 1 Drive, or that he’s keeping extremely quiet (almost impossible in today’s twitterverse). Even if team’s aren’t really interested in Romeo as HC, he would still get called in for interviews…he is a “minority”. I know that sounds bad, but because of the NFL’s Rooney Rule, teams would be stupid not to bring this guy in for an interview (because he’s a great football guy, and he meets the Rooney Rule criteria for any team in the same boat we are). And Romeo has made it public that he wants an HC position again. If we start hearing reports of Romeo interviewing elsewhere, I think the writing might be on the walls that the Chiefs don’t have much interest in retaining Romeo as HC. So far that isn’t happening…I think Romeo is HC and he knows it. Maybe I’m wrong…won’t be the first time today…just a thought though.

by GITM on Jan 5, 2012 10:19 AM CST reply actions  

Does Pioli really wanna get

Another coach who had the help of the best WR core in the league and a HOF QB???

Exact same thing as Haley. Haley had Fitz, Boldin, Breaston, and Doucet. And then had Warner under center throwing it to em. I don’t trust anyone who was put on a team that ALREADY had elite talent.

by JC25FoMVP on Jan 5, 2012 10:24 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

If you can create similar conditions, you can expect similar results.

When you don’t re-create those conditions, it’s your own fault for high expectations.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

2010 draft, when it was clear the trenches were the biggest 2009 weakness, were light on OL/DL.

Pioli brought in some skill players to get stats, but was only half-hearted in upgrading the big men.

He did a nice job in 2011, but still chose to make his 1st-round splash at WR, rather than OL.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Jan 5, 2012 11:03 AM CST reply actions  

We neede a WR bad though

If Bowe was doubled, it was pretty much the end of the offense. The Ravens game is proof of that.

Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006

by KingChief on Jan 5, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Balwin still deserves more credit

If we can improve our offense and utilize the passing game more effectively, I think Baldwin’s arrow will start pointing up in most people’s eyes. He’s a rookie who started out rough but I think his ceiling is underrated by most right now.

by JMagsKC1 on Jan 5, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I sure hope so

He seemed pretty aimless for most of the season.

by SCKSChief on Jan 5, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

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