Kansas City Chiefs January 2012 Approval Poll: Scott Pioli
by Joel Thorman on Jan 4, 2012 2:25 PM CST
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PrintWe continue on with our monthly Kansas City Chiefs approval polls. We've already done a poll on Romeo Crennel this week, which is the first approval poll we've ever had with him at the helm.
So now we turn to Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Like the Chiefs record, Pioli's approval numbers have been up and down all season, with a little more down. Previous month's numbers are posted after the jump. Pioli was at 42 percent last month.
But vote in the poll -- Do you approve of the job Scott Pioli is doing as the Chiefs GM?
- December 2011: 42%
- November 2011: 75%
- October 2011: 53%
- September 2011: 77%
- August 2011: 78%
- July 2011: 94%
- June 2011: 96%
- May 2011: 97%
- March 2011: 93%
- February 2011: 95%
- January 2011: 95%
- December 2010: 99%
- November 2010: 98%
- October 2010: 97%
- August 2010: 93%
- July 2010: 92%
- June 2010: 94%
- May 2010: 92%
- April 2010: 92%
- March 2010: 91%
- February 2010: 91%
- January 2010: 86%
- December 2009: 81%
- November 2009: 67%
- October 2009: 70%
- September 2009: 82%
- August 2009: 91%
- July 2009: 90%
- June 2009: 76%
- May 2009: 77%
- April 2009: 89%
- March 2009: 85%
- February 2009: 88%
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it depends who pioli hires as hc
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
That's one for "not sure."
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for now it should be ONLY [ ] Not Sure
(angelic smile)
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I voted a BIG FAT NO
His season just ended with his team missing the playoffs….the product he put on the field, players and coaches, was not good enough…could not win a division when the best record is 8-8…he didnt address needs from last year(B Richardson), he had to fire his head coach, the QBOTF he brought in just got outplayed by a guy we picked up off the waiver wire….Im not giving too much credit to him or Haley for last years BS 10 win season…easy schedule and we were STILL lucky to win the division….Pioli has not done anything that has impressed me yet….
Playoffs are a REAL possibility in 2010...just need few tweeks here and there.
I'm abstaining until the draft.
Get a QB asshole.
by craig in calgary on Jan 4, 2012 2:37 PM CST reply actions
Get a "QB asshole"?
Did Philip Rivers become available?
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
by Scott B. on Jan 4, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
was it a quarterhorse?
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
We already have one
and his name is “casshole”
Ron Paul 2012
by EricBerryYoYouScary on Jan 4, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
how about
he gets a QB, holds the asshole
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 4, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
Where are all the people who were praising him for saving cap space to sign players during the season?
"Hater" is a term used by weak-minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
by JComp11 on Jan 4, 2012 2:39 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
buying a lot of new caps for next year
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
by upamtn on Jan 4, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
free chiefs hat for the first 5.000 who renew season tichets
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 4, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
now you're talkin'
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I can't wait to buy my season ticket in december and get that hat
because no one else is paying to watch a crappy team with no QB
not true
a lot of people did just that in 2011
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they bought season tickets before the season based on 2010 performance
will they do the same based off the 2011 performance?
absolutely, happens every year in every NFL city
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if it was a light up jacket on the other hand...
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 4, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
purty!
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I renewed
no pretty cap with flashy LEDs. :|
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 4, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
sometimes life just isn't fair
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Picture Diva approves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Saving that money for a kicker
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
aka highest F in the class
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
To be fair.
Succop was pretty much money, after a shaky start.
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
yup
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Agree, but saying he was the Chiefs offensive MVP is like bragging about getting the highest F in the class
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well the crow bar to hunt wallett opened up when we signed succup
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 4, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
had to claw through all the spider webs in there.
Suffers from T-Rex syndrome, short arms that can’t reach his pockets
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Jan 5, 2012 3:53 AM CST up reply actions
were people actually making that argument?
Never ceases to amaze me how far some fans will bend over backwards to make excuses for these assholes
C. Montgomery Hunt: One of the greatest heroes in American history.
Fired Haley.
Named Crennel as interim.
Approve.
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
by Tarkus on Jan 4, 2012 2:39 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Sounds like our season (7/16 = 44%).
…up and down all season, with a little more down….Pioli was at 42 percent last month
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Looking at that picture......
I hope Martz is not trying to impress Pioli…
How's Jamaal doing anyways?
absolutely approve
This team is set up nicely, asuming they have one more good offseason
by stagdsp on Jan 4, 2012 2:51 PM CST via mobile reply actions
and as long as the "new hire" doesn't do a restart
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Yep, solid couple of drafts.
Need to hit more more good draft, and get a decent offensive coordinator.
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
would parcells come in and coach kc
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
he's over 70 years old ...
not that I have anything against old people, but … Parcells? nah, his time has passed
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agreed
Just like I want a QBotF who’s going to stick around for more than few years at the end of their career, I want a HC who’s going to be here for more than a few years..
After Shotty we had:
Gunther 2 yrs
Vermeil 5 yrs
Edwards 3
Haley 2.5
I think you can make the argument, that Vermeil who was here the longest since Marty, came in with a QB and a vision and stuck around for more than 3 years because he had a QB he could run with. Although Vermeil’s D’s sucked…
Gunther had Grbac
Edwards had Huard and Thiggy
Haley had Cassel
None of those guys are long term solutions!
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 4, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, shame Vermeil couldn't envision a defense
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and this is why
I dont see RAC becoming our hc, I mean how many more years is he going to coach, hes what 65, unless they make him hc and whomever they bring in for oc is the coach in waiting, I would just like to see a coach here for more then 3 years
5 yrs of Crennel would be a good thing in my book
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if he coaches us for 5+ years
then I have no problem with him being our HC, I’m just tired of changing coaches and systems every 2-3 years, same with qb’s
I'd be ok with 5 or 6 years if he can pull it off.
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 4, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
Going back to the Elite conversation,
If you have an elite coach who has tied his horse to the elite QB, then they do.
I don’t see Payton, McCarthy or Tomlin leaving their respective teams anytime soo.
Nor do I see Coughlin or Belicheck who have been around longer than 5 on each of their respective teams.
So with the right coach and the right QB….
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 4, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
But you are right
That’s 6 coaches out of 32 teams.
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 4, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
True dat.
Then there’s Gruden, who collected QBs like they were trading cards, and a lot of people consider him elite.
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
but Chucky loves ALL players
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that's the one :-)
talking about what a great coach he is … simple as Child’s Play
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glad you got the
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"point"
(my cutting wit)
ok, I’ll stop now
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LOL
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Vermeil not only had JUST a QB he could run with
He struck gold with the PRIEST. Also didn’t help when Roaf and Shields were playing like GODS!
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 4, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
Also didn’t hurt when Roaf and Shields were playing like GODS!
Oops
Also didn’t help when Roaf and Shields were playing like GODS!
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 4, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
Just saying that those teams with Huard and Thiggy, Grbac, wouldn’t have been the same. Mayyybe with Cassel, but Green had such better vision for the field, and a better long ball. He was accurate and dangerous. And we didn’t have any all pro wide receivers. Not including TGonz in that thought.
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 4, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
12 plus years
once you look at the time frame of the coaches we had Jeez been along time since the fun days of Marty
Yup. The game has pass him by even when he was HC in Dallas
C’mon Vinny? Drew Beldsoe? And he almost wanted to cut Tony Romo if it hadn’t been for Sean Payton wanting to keep Romo…
He is definitely 70 too old for any HC job
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 4, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
And would Parcells be able to have his son in law tell him what to do
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Jan 5, 2012 3:54 AM CST up reply actions
meh, it's early yet
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never too early to sign proven talented players
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Jan 5, 2012 3:56 AM CST up reply actions
on top of that
i think it will be harder to sign them, if they don’t know who will be running the team. Too much turmoil.
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Jan 4, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
Martz: Tell McCluster to stand this far from Urlacher and he will catch the hailmary
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
thats martz refusing to give pioli vermeil phone number
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
thats martz saying i can't believe you one a game with palko
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
Generally approve
Locked up DJ,JC,Tamba,Flowers,Succop(laugh all ya want the dude carried us ALOT), got enough to lock up Bowe/Carr and do some damage in the offseason, brought in McClain,Breaston,Orton, fired the son of a bitch who single handedly tried to destroy our season. Not too shabby, let’s just hope he keeps the ball rollin!
Disapproved
Created a toxic team environment, Intrim coach was natural not genius selection..
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 4, 2012 3:09 PM CST reply actions
do you think romeo got a better than 50% chance at getting the HC job
or will charlie weis leave kansas for the chiefs
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
just wondering, what exactly does pioli do?
besides writing paychecks
pioli was studying up on the right 53 formula on vacation
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 4, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
because 5th rounders with no experience and no off-season practice time are always the best bet
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considering had be defeated the Raiders we would have been in the playoffs ...
… that’s why not
you play to win the game … hello?
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TJ Yates did ok
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
4th in the league in pts allowed
that’s pretty significant since games are determined by … you know, points scored
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that's because they're playig in a weak division
if manning was around, their D would be in the top 20
boy, stop!
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let's see
indy, ten, and jac
play them 6 times a year
oh my blaine gabbert is so tough
matt hasselback is so tough
no peyton manning, oh my
they also BEAT Cin, Atl and Pitt
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we had a chance to beat the pitts too
and guess what? under palko
So you think the 49'ers suck too?
Because they play the Rams, Cards and Seahawks?
Cause they have one of the top D’s this year too.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 4, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
THEY made it, WE didn't ...
any questions?
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Oh so we're going to go by the assumed fact you can predict the future
why didn’t you put down nostradamus as you username
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Jan 5, 2012 3:59 AM CST up reply actions
Right
Cuz 2 games against him would somehow do that. Gonna shit on a defense that was ballin cuz of the division, smooth
they're the 2010 chiefs
they’ll get their ass handed to them in the playoff
Playoffs are playoffs - it's anyone's game as we saw last year
And that wasn’t the point in question.
You were scoffing at them having a top defense in 2011 – which in fact they do/did have. You can’t look at the stats, which are facts, and just poo-poo it off because you don’t like it.
Nobody said having a top D was a guaranteed Championship game or Super Bowl appearance. KCinIL just said “Top D”. He didn’t say they were going to win the SB because they have a Top D.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 4, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
ditto
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got me
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Yessir - climb out from under which rock you have been living...
- in overall D
- in pass D
- in rush D
- in sacks
- in scoring D
The only category they aren’t top 10 in is interceptions, where they hit #13.
So yes – top defense.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 4, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
Jesus, stupid bullet points - that's not how this should look
2 in Overall D
3 in passing D
4 in rushing D
6 in sacks
4 in scoring D
by Ochophosphate on Jan 4, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
the Texans overcame a LOT of injuries this year
RB, WR, QB … seriously, their injuries were as crucial as ours, they got it done, we didn’t … and yeah, they have a much better defense than people think
not to mention a much better OLine … that’s a very good, tough team
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It didn't hurt them to have AJ and Schaub
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 4, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
that's the deal, though
all those guys got hurt … including Foster … and they STILL did what they needed to do
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I just am not sure who we would have run out there in his place?
Not that I’m apologizing for Haley. But initially who? Stanzi off his little time in the NFL? Maybe. Palko week one. That’s why we had him… Week 2? Ok maybe. We couldn’t have put Orton in much sooner and when he did go in. he got blown up.
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 4, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
I put my paycheck on the line
That Orton would’ve been good-to-go the game after Pit(especially with this playbook) hell he probably could’ve gone in that game the 2nd half and did better than that guy. I was at that game, I hated it. The Bears were tearing up our OL so we run him out there for a fle-flicking long route developing play, ridiculous.
Yeah I hear you.
Truth be told, he couldn’t have done any worse than Palko. And once he was in the system he was worlds better. Hell he made the team better b/c the D didn’t have to be out there for 55 minutes and the O line got better as well.
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 4, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
They were straight up demoralizing.
I mean, after this season my whole take on a QBotF has changed. Not that I ever wanted us to Suck for Luck cuz of how badly that hurts the overall team’s growth. But… having a stellar QB changes so much.
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 4, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
so, Rodgers?
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
is a stellar QB
and his team plays like they know they will win. Cuz most of the time they will. Having faith in your QB to make plays makes you play better.
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 4, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
oh, I was hoping you were saying we'd get him ;-)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I wouldn't complain at all
But sure as shit not sure how that would happen. I think the constellations would have to align even more so than when they did in 06 and we fell into the playoffs.
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 4, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
Thier d hasn't played that good the last few games
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
He has gone 3-2 in 5 starts
not bad for a rookie
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Not bad at all, but he hasn't been real good
It helps alot when you got a top run game and top D, all I’m sayin
pioli teaches a class on how to communicate with the media without amswering questions
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 4, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
RAC is still working on it.
See his conversation about Carr
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 4, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
i like rac he tells it like it is from what i have seen
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 4, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
yeah i know, phone line are probably tapped at arrowhead
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 4, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
they found out about Tarkus already?
damn, just when the good info was starting to trickle in …
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Well, he would teach a class
except that would be giving away too much information.
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
That's NEXT monday.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
Why would, or should, a GM ever obtain players without co-ordinating the needs with
the head coach. If you think about it, why would any coach be happy if your GM comes up to you and say, Hey, we just signed this guy, good luck. To me, this may be why there were problems with Haley and Pioli. The GM should discuss personal all the time with the coach and if the coach says he needs a certain player, the GM should be supportive and help go out and get that player (as with Breaston). I wonder if this would be Fisher’s problem right off the bat.
how dare you sound logically. This is the chiefs GM we're talking about here
don’t make me smack you
Fisher wants to be GM
And judging by all his misses in Ten he should be nowhere near 1 Arrowhead drive
Dude, Bud Adams was calling the shots in TN
If I remember right, Fisher wanted nothing to do with VY
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
He had alot of input if I remember right
And 1 person means nothing. The dudes a mediocre HC don’t know why people hype em up like he’s something special
What makes you think Haley was never consulted?
You think he had nothing to do with Breaston being signed? Baldwin being drafted? His boy Thomas Jones? Urban? Etc.
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
Agreed
I posted about the relationship between our HC’s over the last 15 years and their QB’s. I mean no wonder they last such short period’s of time here. Not defending either coach here, but saddling/expecting Gunther to win with Grbac, Edwards with Huard/Thiggy or Haley with Cassel on a long term basis is ridiculous.
by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 4, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
who do u blame for the gaithers release then
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
Gaithers
did he come out and play better than anyone else when he was with us? if the answer is “no” then it’s really on him (my two cents)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
probably because we never gave him the chance
1 snap. offsides. He’s gone.
and compare to how he’s with the chargers who gave him more chances: pro
the Chargers would have stuck a tree in at that position with the injuries they had
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
no, he isn't "obviously better"
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I Used to NOT SURE
and DISAPPROVE (because of how much weight the Cassel deal made me loose faith in him)
I was leaning towards APPROVE (upon reading excerpts from War Room)
then Haley firing – after which I had no doubt: APPROVE
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 4, 2012 3:38 PM CST reply actions
untie it
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Loose Faith
she’s been around the block way too many times. You need to lose her.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 4, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
When Clark hired him, I started to believe KC was gonna finally make a big turn for the better
then when the Cassel deal happen… I started to doubt all the hype surrounding Pioli being an elite GM
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 4, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
SP needs to divorce Cassel
that’s the albatross around SP’s neck
Needs for 2012:
O-line
D-line
Linebacker
Quarterback
by Bleedingredandgold on Jan 4, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 4, 2012 6:41 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
And so it is.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Not sure
Had to fire the coach after 13 games. A lot of loose lips in the organization when things weren’t going so well. A serious lack of depth on the roster. We all knew it wasn’t there, just hoped and prayed the key stars would stay healthy, they didn’t.
Hopefully he’s learned from some of his mistakes because a lot of the problems in the organization shouldn’t be laid at Haley’s feet.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 4, 2012 3:44 PM CST reply actions
Everything said here perfectly describes why I voted "Disapprove".
Despite the vaunted tight-lipped New England way, they did plenty of talking out of the corners of their mouths. Pioli completely mishandled the Haley situation and I no longer trust him. But I don’t trust Hunt either.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
CWW...this is mainly why I also went Not sure
Combined with some of the questionable FA signings at the end of the period….and a few oddball draft choices.
For me, the jury’s out…what Pioli does over the next few months will determine for me if he deserves an “approve”.
I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...
Ok, basing this off his recent moves.
1. Signed Orton
2. Released Gaither
3. Fired Haley
That’s 2 approves and 1 not sure for me. So overall, I approve.
The Chiefs had a bad year, but you cannot argue that Pioli wasn’t proactive. When he could make adjustments, he did so. I think that’s a very good sign, and those changes (Orton and Haley) almost got us into the playoffs.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
The Chiefs had a bad year, but you cannot argue that Pioli wasn’t proactive.
That’s actually a very easy argument to make. How was he proactive? He waited until the “starting” QB was injured to get a competant back-up (and only after Orton happened to fall in his lap) and had shit for depth the entire season. He also kept Haley around after more than a few blow out losses. Isn’t that the definition of REactive?
"Hater" is a term used by weak-minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
by JComp11 on Jan 4, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No, reactive would be to wait until the end of the season and then address all of the concerns.
With 0 guarantees on getting a QB in the offseason, he was proactive by claiming Orton off of waivers (not to mention drafting Stanzi last year as well). He could have easily just demanded the team go with Stanzi as the starter, or even make Jason Whitlock’s dreams come true by giving Jeff George a shot. Getting the quality guy when he becomes available is being proactive.
Knowing that Haley wasn’t the right coach for the team, he fired him and gave Crennel a shot to show what he could do before entering the coaching hunt. He could have let Haley finish the season before starting a coach search. Giving a potential candidate an opportunity before having to make the real decision is being proactive.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
That makes no sense. What does Orton have to do with the off season? He is a free agent. It was a direct REACTION to losing Cassel. How can you claim that going into the season with Tyler Palko as the back up is being proactive?
"Hater" is a term used by weak-minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
by JComp11 on Jan 4, 2012 5:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Approve only if
we lock up Thomas Jones for another few years and if we bring back Kelly Gregg and Sabby long term
6 1st round draft picks, 2 Super Bowl Champions and counting
by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 4, 2012 4:32 PM CST reply actions
I’m ready for Casey and Ryan to move on. But I don’t hate B Rich nearly as much as everyone else around here.
6 1st round draft picks, 2 Super Bowl Champions and counting
by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 4, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
Sure... let's bring back Samie Parker and Bernard Pollard while we're at it.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
How'd you make you reply go the other way?
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
Just a statement..
I wish we had that threat on special teams. Pollards downfall was his attitude, but he hit hard and would block a kick every once in a while.
I do hate Bernard Pollard for one reason and ONE REASON only
He was 100% responsible for bringing Matt Cassel to KC and I f***ing hate that
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 4, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Haven't seen it that way, but your right...
I said it here along time ago..“the Grbac era” all over again. Bad thing is, it might not get any better….just a point, never a ringer.
The pick Joel selected would make an...........
interesting caption this
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“not sure”
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
4-0 in October.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
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