More On The Kansas City Chiefs Coaching Search
by Joel Thorman on Jan 4, 2012 9:12 AM CST
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PrintEarlier this morning ESPN's Adam Schefter reported that the Kansas City Chiefs were scheduled to interview Joe Philbin, the Green Bay Packers offensive coordinator. It's the first bit of real Chiefs news (outside of informed speculation) regarding the coaching search.
I found Philbin's inclusion into the search interesting because the Packers are currently in the playoffs, and could make a Super Bowl run. That would mean the Chiefs couldn't hire him until after the Super Bowl ended, which was one of the criticisms of Todd Haley's hiring -- that it came so late in the year (early February).
But the Philbin part wasn't the most interesting part of Schefter's report (to me at least).
He also reported that the Chiefs have had several interviews already, including some before the season ended. That gives us a slight clue as to the Chiefs other coaching candidates: If the interviews happened before the season ended, then those coaches were currently out of work (or they're college coaches).
That narrows the list down a little bit but we still don't know who those candidates are, outside of Philbin and Crennel. The "A" list name this year is Jeff Fisher, who is out of work right now, but I would guess he's not one of the guys who interviewed in KC considering Fisher's name has been in the media connected to multiple jobs already and we haven't heard him connected to the Chiefs.
So the Chiefs have been working away at the coaching search. I just wish we knew all the candidates' names.
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So timing of Haley's firing,
because they couldn’t stand each other one more second, or to get a jump on the coaching search? At the time, I thought it was to get a jump on the coaching search.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Looks like you were onto something.
Could Charlie Weis be in play too, as well as the names I mentioned below? Or am I on drugs here?
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pass some of that over
Weis just signed with KU … he’s not gonna bail this fast
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And if he does
Do we really want a coach that’s always looking for the next big job?
Exactly my worry. Weis loves him some spotlight...
But I dunno if he’d shit on KU this quickly. It WILL happen someday, however.
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Lets be honest
If you’re coach of KU and you get an NFL job offer…..wouldn’t you take a big fat dump?
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Very true, very true.
And the chance to go in and prove that he was right—Cassel is useless—versus Todd, who wanted to save #7?
I hope we’re all wrong here. Wrong wrong wrong.
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I'm just gald Sparano's name hasn't come up
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I said it earlier. Looks like everyone ignored it.
You not interested in Mr. Sunglasses-At-Night?
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but the Dolphins all LOVE the guy!
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They still chant his name in the locker room after games
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RAC City...RAC City...
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That's what the players still chant in Cleveland
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I thought they'd stuff their mouths full of donuts and do their best Mangini impression...
Wave a call sheet around and just cuss at everyone they see—unless they’re on ESPN and telestrating. THEN they get all citified and even say please and thank you.
NO WAY Mangini got an interview…right? Right?
I hate this sense of paranoia. I might have to go back to work. Ugh.
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what, no love for Mangini, the Demon Barber of Cleveland?
I’m shocked, simply shocked!
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by upamtn on Jan 4, 2012 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder if that guy on ESPN
is who the Browns actually thought they were hiring.
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You misunderstood.
Cleveland is RAT City.
- In foreclosures’ wake, Cleveland officials battle rat infestations
- Rats Invade Local Duplex
- Lake County takes proactive approach to vermin control
Completely different thing.
by JacinB on Jan 4, 2012 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Also why Mangini felt at home there.
Thank you for clarifying…it all makes sense now, doesn’t it? lol
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ha!
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not to mention the lovely river fire ...
that was just so unreal, only Cleveland
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That explains the shitty BBQ
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hamsters are much tastier
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what's in YOUR chicken?
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Not you
I just don’t want to hear his name come out of Sheffter’s mouth.
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yes, he will be gone if the chiefs offer weis the job
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 4, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
aren't they ALL always looking for their next big job?
just like educational administrators … school principals and district supers are constantly moving around …
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Except the ones who are actually teachers.
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we tend to stay in one place ... we also do all the work
they get all the money, how else could they afford to move every couple of years
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And get out of the business after three to five years, statistically. Too much BS, too little help.
Top destinations? 1) Insurance/Investments/Financial Planning, 2) Real Estate, 3) Sales.
Not lying. Wish I could find the data…an old prof of mine in my graduate program (in Education) gave me the info.
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I know ...
young teacher was telling me about friend of hers, also young teacher … he’d just gotten his Master’s so he could be an even better educator
he was non-tenured, and therefore he was legally not rehired (contract non-renewed) … because he’d have cost the district too much money
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My mom took time off to have my little brother. Never found another full time teaching job because her experience made her too expensive.
She finally threw in the towel and became a principal.
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I got my license yesterday.
When I get back from vacation I’ll be subbing.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Cool.
I saw my mom teach for a lot of years. I would not have enough patience for that job, not even close.
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Good luck. Hopefully the teaching market is better for you than it was for me.
Three years teaching on a social studies/lang arts endorsement…ready/willing to to Level 1 Special Education or Reading if given time to catch up the endorsements…aaaaand nothing.
It CAN be done, my wife’s taught for four years now.
What’re your endorsements in?
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I don't plan to teach for a living on the long term.
I have a BS in Biology, minor in Plant Science, and an AS in Chemistry. This summer I’ll have a Masters in Applied Science.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Science? Shee-it...
You’ll have a job whenever and wherever you want, for as long as you want it.
Best of luck!
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I hope... I'm more of the interest of research.
So we shall see where life takes me.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Is Larry Brown available?
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I still think
Haley would have probably lasted until the end of the year, if not for the meltdown in the Jets game (or another similar one). I think that caused the timing, not the coaching search or anything else.
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
Maybe. But it was the fifth meltdown of the year. Why was it different than the others?
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Sticking with Palko.
All the penalties. The penalty from Haley himself. It was by far the ugliest of the blowouts. And it was also different because it was the 5th one and came so late in the season. I think if they’d have been competitive down the stretch, Haley would have been fired on Black Monday instead.
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
Possibly.
But it is nice that Pioli was able to start his interviews a few weeks early.
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I agree that was a benefit.
I just don’t think that was the reason for the timing.
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
Maybe the weekly arguments just finally degenerated to name calling or something.
I finally moved out of the house right after a particularly venomous argument with my dad…over car insurance. It was far from the worst or most important argument we had, but it was the last one.
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I think he would have done it before the season
If Pioli could of.
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 4, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Gotta be this guy right?
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If he and Scott are willing to shit where they eat, then yes indeed.
But why would Parcells make a move out of the pundit’s chair and into One Arrowhead? Why potentially cause a divorce (or two) in his own family?
I DO see someone connected to Bill, though. Probably one of his old MIA cronies.
(Wouldn’t it be a laugher if suddenly we introduce…BRAD CHILDRESS, head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs? Just a scream?).
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I was just kidding
I had a funny little picture in my head of them having a nice chat during Christmas dinner and local media reporting that Parcells had interviewed for the job.
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You might be kidding, but it IS the first thought I had.
But I don’t think either man is willing to kill their family just for the Chiefs’ benefit.
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Agreed
It would make for a fun news cycle tho
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yesh :-)
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sal ... it's REALLY too early for those hallucinagens you're on
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My tie is tied too tight.
Less circulation = better vibes to the brain.
Also, I’m scoping out utility ETF’s and mutual funds for a client. POWERFULLY interesting. Not an investment tip, but seriously…ladder that with a blue-chip tech fund (think Apple, Cisco) and be content.
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I'd rather have this guy.
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I think we just fired him, didn't we?
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All big teethed white guys look the same to me.
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Racist!
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 4, 2012 9:33 AM CST up reply actions
It is what it is.
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not loud enough!
(at times)
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I can respect that.
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I wonder if he can return punts
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yeah i would be all in on parcels coming to kc, he might have one more itch to coach
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 4, 2012 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
It's good that Pioli saw a problem with Haley and is working to correct it
Would be nice to know who all has been interviewed and who does.. but can we really expect to know everything outta Arrowhead?
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haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
can we really expect to know everything outta Arrowhead?
(ahem) of course not …
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Even the candidates themselves won't know who all is being interviewed.
No different than any other white collar job interview.
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Parcells (HAH, yeah right)...Sparano...Ferentz...Todd Bowles...
Those are all off of the Parcells/Belichick tree. And Philbin isn’t surprising…he’s a NE guy who coached with Ferentz. There are enough ties there to make it viable.
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I suppose we could add anyone from the NO or NYG staff
as being part of the Parcells tree.
I honestly don’t even care who it is at this point. If we’re really sticking with Cassel it won’t matter anyway.
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Pat Hill, former head coach as Fresno State.
Old crony of Pioli’s from Cleveland…I think he was Belichick’s tight ends coach.
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A t leaset the Pioli cronie tree has a shitload of branches I guess
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it's like the Enchanted Forest
all we need are flying monkeys and evil talking trees
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I'm pretty sure that Rich is an evil talking tree
But we already cut our flying monkey when Lance Long left.
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open question (Satch, jump in!) ... can you interview someone under contract with permission from his team? not HC for a lateral move, obviously ...
If the interviews happened before the season ended, then those coaches were currently out of work (or they’re college coaches)
the point being that yeah, Philbin isn’t out of work
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I think Philbin's a cover.
Someone much less sexy (old o-line coaches are sexy?) is in the offing.
Pat Hill makes as much sense as Kirk Ferentz. So does Charlie Weis.
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My theory is they're doing the old discount double check.
They interviewed Sean Weatherspoon to find out about Aldon Smith. They’d interview Philbin to find out about Clements.
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Thank you for not hip-thrusting and acting as though you have the Intercontinental Championship Belt around your waist when you typed that.
Unless you did…in which case, drink Lysol :) Cheers!
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by go_saleaumua on Jan 4, 2012 9:39 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
SPPPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNN!
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Yes, you can interview if you have permission
lateral or otherwise. It’s considered bad form to do it during a game week. We catch a break that we wanted to interview the GB OC and they happen to have a bye.
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I think it's actually against the rules
to do so if there’s not a bye.
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Thus the captured break.
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Great word.
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This is like the feeling as a kid
Leading up to opening presents at Christmas!
I may live amongst cheeseheads but I still bleed red! GO CHIEFS
as long as it's not another dead hamster ...
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When life gives you dead hamsters
Make dead hamster kabobs
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mmmmmmmmmmmm!
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That is not a Z-Man
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Bein I grew up Amish
My Christmas present was usually in the line of a new pitch fork or something of that nature! :)
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by milwaukeechief on Jan 4, 2012 9:40 AM CST up reply actions
oh, wow ... a brand new pitchfork! I never got anything half that exciting ...
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X
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dreidel! dreidel! dreidel!
I can die happy now :-)
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Better becareful
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 4, 2012 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Nooooooooooooo
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Love your screen name, btw.
That’s a hell of a good song.
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hell no
Martz the mad scientist? Cassel can’t even dissect simple shitttt Zorn is trying to teach him, you want to have Martz draw up complicated X’ and O’s… it’ll be quantum physics from hell for Matt
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
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pizza joints are always the place where deals get done just ask the
gambino’s
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 4, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
Not excited about this news at all!
We need to strike now, and it’s unlikely a new HC (esp with no previous HC experience) will be the guy that takes us to the Promised Land. I don’t mind a change at OC and promote someone to DC, but not the Head Coach…
Very disappointed in our Mr Pioli at the press conference.
YES
Philbin is who I want. Will we get him? IMO no way. But the guy is soliod and has moved up the food chain in GB through consistency and hard work. I’d like it even better if he brought Matt Flynn with him. But I’m sure that isn’t a popular choice around here considering what we would have to give up, and the way the KOLB fiasco has played out in AZ.
Uh.. Flynn is a FA
Green Bay will not pay him, nor Tag him. They have said as much.
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 4, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
I know
But we would still have to give him Money, correct? Unless their is some Volunteer Tag I don’t know about.
by BucktheFroncos on Jan 4, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
We have the cap space though
You made it sound like we would have to give up high picks/good player like ’Zona did for Kolb
I am against getting Flynn though
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 4, 2012 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
I like the Flynn idea...
and figure out a way to rid us of Cassel and keep Orton. Orton, Flynn, and Stanzi…doesn’t sound bad to me.
Very disappointed in our Mr Pioli at the press conference.
by crazychiefsfan on Jan 4, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe
Pioli is just going thru the motions to fulfill some ethical obligation and fully intends to award the HC position too Crennel…
He has to interview a certain number of white guys before he can hire the black guy?
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Does have to interview a minority coach
That is not part of the Chiefs staff before he can hire anyone
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 4, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
Doesn't Philbin smell alot like the Haley hire
Young coordinator riding the reach coaches coatstrings and unstoppable offense?
McCarthy = Whisenhunt
Rodgers = Warner
etc
etc
etc
by craig in calgary on Jan 4, 2012 10:02 AM CST reply actions
I'm not excited about him.
His entire NFL career has been with GB, and with their O line, and their O lines have not been good lately. From Wiki Resume:
1984-1985 Tulane
(graduate assistant)
1986-1987 WPI
(offensive line)
1988-1989 USMMA
(offensive line)
1990-1993 Allegheny College
(offensive line/coordinator)
1994 Ohio
(offensive line)
1995-1996 Northeastern
(offensive line/coordinator)
1997-1998 Harvard
(offensive line/coordinator)
1999-2002 Iowa
(offensive line)
2003 Green Bay Packers
(assistant offensive line)
2004-2005 Green Bay Packers
(tight ends/assistant offensive line)
2006 Green Bay Packers
(offensive line)
2007-present Green Bay Packers
(offensive coordinator)
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Not good
At last check they won the whole thing last year. And didn’t they go 15-1 this season even though they lost like 3 tackles on their o-line?
by BucktheFroncos on Jan 4, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
They've just recently started trying to upgrade their tackles.
Check out Rodgers’ sack numbers over the past few years. Pretty bad, and much worse than you’d expect from somebody who’s that good at getting the ball out.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Mind you, thats really not a good stat to gauge how a coach will fair
The TUNA at the beginning of his career was only affiliated with NYG and NYG is all we know of him for a long time.
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 4, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
There's a HUGE difference between Philbin and Haley
I have not seen and probably will not see Philbin having a yelling match on the sideline with either Greg Jennings or Jordy Nelson
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 4, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
I think its clear that Schefter isn't certain on the "other coaches that have been interviewed"
If he was, he would have revealed who they were. I wouldn’t put too much stock into any news of other candidates that may have been interviewed already
I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.
by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 4, 2012 10:06 AM CST via mobile reply actions
because pioli got all the phones tapped at one arrowhead drive
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 4, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
Boom
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/12/13/2632448/whos-the-next-coach-of-the-chiefs
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
I think he's offensive coordinator in title only
McCarthy runs the offense and calls the plays. QB coach Tom Clements is more involved. Philbin sounds like what Brad Childress was in Philly. Sure he was offensive coordinator but its Reid’s offense and he called the plays.
Going back further to GB, when Holmgrem was head coach, Ray Sherman (not Mike) was OC and was just a figure head. The others who were involved with the game planning were Mariucci, Reid and Jon Gruden.
Yeah, I'd rather have Clements
as Offensive Coordinator. From what I’ve read, he’s the better prospect, and also less of a risk, because he wouldn’t be head coach.
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
Clements
Is is line to take the PSU job. In fact I think he is one of the few candidates that is getting a second interview. Plus dude has already coached in KC before. Remember Elvis Grbac?
by BucktheFroncos on Jan 4, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Well, Philbin can tell Pioli all about Clements.
I thought I saw where the Pats OC was favored for the Penn State job?
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Okay
Let’s look at his offensive numbers in 04 and 05 when he was OC for the Bills. 24th and 28th overall respectively. Not saying he isn’t worthy of a look, but curious how this equates to “he’s the better prospect, and also less of a risk.” Plus, I thought a Pro-Bowl wasn’t the barometer we used to rate are QB’s around here.
by BucktheFroncos on Jan 4, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe others don't.
But, even if you only get in as an alternate, I consider any year where you’re invited to the game that only the best of the league get invited to play in to be a pretty decent year.
Just the fact that he'd only be OC makes him less of a risk.
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
This
+ he’s done playcalling before.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 4, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Never mind, looked it up.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Not real excited about any of these potential coaching candidates
I say we stick with Crennel, and the sign Peyton Manning. Immediate super bowl contenders for the next 3 years…if peyton is healthy.
by tasty little guinea pigs on Jan 4, 2012 10:46 AM CST reply actions
ya
with Peyton we could keep Bill as OC…wouldnt matter, Manning would be calling the plays anyway.
Go luck yourself.
by ottawachiefsfan on Jan 4, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Not a fan.
I like Peyton, but I don’t like what he’d do to our offense.
Muir: [Calls play that involves handing off to Jamaal.]
Peyton: Coach called a handoff, but get open and I’ll throw it to you. The corner on the right is slow turning left and …
Charles: I want the ball.
Peyton: I’m throwing it. Like I was saying, their corner is slow going left so, Dwayne, I want you to juke him of right and then cut back in and …
Charles: Coach called a run. I want the ball.
Peyton: I’m throwing it. You get to stand in and block. Maybe I’ll let you run after I hit the 4,000 yard mark for the year.
Charles will be fine with 1000 yards rushing and 1000 yards receiving.
It’ll be alot easier on his body.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 4, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Or while Manning is in shotgun after Hudson snaps the ball
Charles will just run infront of Manning, snatch the ball, run for a TD
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 4, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
Yea i don't really see that happening
And i think i would trust Peyton calling plays over Muir 100% of the time.
He gonna kill you, LIONHEART!
by tasty little guinea pigs on Jan 4, 2012 11:13 AM CST reply actions
You missed the 'reply' button.
But, regardless, I was mostly being facetious.
If Peyton is back to 100% (which is a big ‘if’) and if the Colts would get rid of him rather than have him mentor Luck (which is another big ‘if’) and if Pioli managed to work out a trade for him and his huge contract and/or the Colts actually cut him and he wanted to sign here, I’d be mostly alright with him running the show for a year or two (because, let’s be honest, that’s all he’s got left).
But, I do think it would detract from our run-centered style of offense and Jamaal’s touches (and, thus, yardage) would take a huge hit because Peyton would try to take over and hoist the whole team on his shoulders if only because that’s what he’s done in Indianapolis since 2006 or so.
There certainly are a lot of variables involved
but if the chiefs could somehow make it happen, they most definitely should. I personally think the colts will cut him, which would make it much easier for the chiefs to sign him. I do think that bringing him in would change up our offensive identity a bit, but peyton knows how much of a stallion JC is, and i think he would be perfectly content to lean more on the running game here than he did in Indy.
I just feel like the chiefs are really close to being an elite team in the AFC, and with someone like Manning we could immediately become legit contenders next year. Still think we should draft a QB of the future no later than next year, but i think peyton has at least 2, if not 3 or 4 great years left.(Assuming his neck is healthy)
He gonna kill you, LIONHEART!
by tasty little guinea pigs on Jan 4, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Right team. Wrong coach.
A offensive line coach that doesn’t call the plays? Been there done that.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
Maybe they interviewed that guy
that was the OC for Arz when they went to the SB., I hear he has been out of work awhile
I like the Philbin move if its accurate
I wonder if Pioli would also look at Edgar Bennett as our OC. He coached GB’s running backs prior to coaching their wideouts (current)
we know Ryan Grant had really great numbers when he coached the RBs
we also know that GB don’t possess a crystal ball for drafting wide receivers but C’mon
greg jennings, james jones, donald driver, jordy nelson, and now randall cobb – and none of the WRs were 1st round picks. So my guess its their position coach – that’s where the magic starts
Philbin for HC
RAC goes back to being DC
Edgar Bennett OC
Another guy to look at may be Jimmy Robinson (currently with Dallas, previous WR coach of the GB when Jennings was drafted)
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 4, 2012 12:38 PM CST reply actions
I like Romeo as HC.
Since Muir said Romeo delegates authority well, I would be interested in seeing Romeo as HC then hiring a stud OC. Hell, who DOESN’T want a loaded offense like ours? With a few new pieces, of course (looking at you, o-line)
I'm a little gunshy about a young OC who had a ton of talent and an an elite qb as our next coach
But, I think this would be a good hire
In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti
by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Jan 4, 2012 5:55 PM CST reply actions
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