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*excerpts paraphrased from Wikipedia

In their 1962 season, the (Chiefs) Dallas Texans strolled to an 11–3 record and a berth in the team's first American Football League championship game against the Houston Oilers. The game was broadcast nationally and the Texans defeated the Oilers 20–17 in double overtime. The game lasted 77 minutes and 54 seconds, which still stands as the longest championship game in professional football history.

In the 1971 season the Chiefs tied with the Miami Dolphins for the best record in the AFC, and both teams met in a Christmas day playoff game which the Chiefs lost 27–24 in double overtime. The Dolphins outlasted the Chiefs with a 37-yard field goal. The game surpassed the 1962 AFL Championship Game as the longest ever at 82 minutes and 40 seconds. The game was also the final football game at Kansas City's Municipal Stadium.

So there it is folks. The Kansas City Chiefs hold the record for not only the longest game in NFL history, but also the longest championship game in professional football history. Historic records for sure, but not all records concerning length are as favorable.

Star-divide

The Kansas City Chiefs currently own the third longest active streak without a playoff win. That streak is eighteen years years long. The last playoff win for the Chiefs happened on January 14, 1994 (the 1993 NFL season) against a team that no longer exists, the Oilers.

Only two other teams surpass the Chiefs in playoff futility, the Bengals (twenty-one years) and the Lions (twenty years). Both Cincinnati and Detroit made the playoffs in the 2011 season. Both the Bengals and the Lions seem to be on an upswing behind quarterbacks Andy Dalton and Matt Stafford while the Chiefs futz around behind Matt Cassel and/or Kyle Orton. The Bengals and Lions made early playoff exits this season, losing in their respective first games. However, the tag teams of Andy Dalton to A.J. Green and Matthew Stafford to Calvin Johnson don't appear to be cooling off any time soon. There is an all too real possibility that the Chiefs could hold sole possession of this 'to be avoided record by the end of the 2012 NFL season.

"But..but.... you're just filled with hate because you want a new quarterback", you say.......

Maybe. We've already established that I'm filled with hate and that I store it in my feet, but my hate doesn't affect the Chiefs play on the field. Or should I say lack of play? According to NFL.com the Chiefs 2011 team rankings force me to read almost the entire length of each list in order to find the teams name:

Total Offense: Twenty-seventh, Passing Offense: twenty-fifth, Scoring: thirty-first (behind such offensive powerhouses as the Manning-less Colts, Jaguars, and Browns), Touchdowns: thirty-first, (and in what should not be a surprise because we didn't score enough times to kick off very much) Kicking: thirty-first.

In rushing the football the Chiefs managed to remain in the middle of the pack, even with the best running back in the NFL on the sidelines for the vast majority of the season. Kansas City finished 2011 ranked fifteenth in total rushing offense. And in related news sure to draw ire and lengthy stat filled responses from uptamtn, the 2011 Kansas City Chiefs offensive line was ranked fourteenth; Further supporting my opinion that the Chiefs offensive line is not nearly as bad as some fans make it sound.

The Chiefs offensive line collectively ranked ahead of the playoff Lions, Packers, Broncos, and 49ers, as well as the Jets, Cowboys, and Steelers; just to name a few. It's the quarterbacks making the line look bad, not the other way around. Take a bow Tyler Palko and Matt Cassel, you're finally getting the line the recognition it deserves by displaying complete ineptitude, and being benched with an injury. (Shout out to Orton, who gets rid of the ball in an actual normal NFL quarterback amount of time. Too bad he can't score touchdowns either)

The Chiefs did manage to crack the top ten in two categories. They finished the season ranked twenty-sixth in rushing defense. Not surprisingly, when you can run versus a team (to the tune of over 130 yards per game) you don't have to rely on the pass to win. That's a good thing for every team not named the Chiefs, because facing the sixth ranked pass defense would be a real bitch if you couldn't just fall back on running the ball through a weak middle of the defensive line. Emmit Thomas and Romeo Crennel deserve a lot of credit for what they have done with the secondary. Of course, the front seven (especially the nose tackle and inside linebackers) can't be overlooked when handing out credit for a great pass defense. It takes all the pressure off the secondary when you just let your opponents run for a first down whenever they need one instead of being forced to throw.

The second category in which the Chiefs broke into the top ten should be no surprise to anyone that's been paying attention thus far to the scoring and touchdown rankings. As opposed to kicking, which happens most often after the team scores (for the Chiefs it happened mostly at the beginning of the game and second half), punting most often occurs when your team fails to end a drive with a score. Kansas City did a whole hell of a lot of punting in 2011. Thus, they rank seventh in the league in that particular statistic. Feel free to credit the coverage units and Mr. Dustin Colquitt for their incredible skills on punting plays if you like. I won't argue for even a second. I do, however, reserve the right to point out that practice makes perfect, and the Chiefs punting unit didn't have any shortage of snaps in which to practice.

Enough about the length of the Chiefs placement on lists. Let's get back to actual length of time since something good has happened. The last time the Chiefs appeared in a conference championship game was eighteen years ago. To put that in perspective the Houston Texans (as opposed to the Dallas Texans, now Chiefs) have never been to a conference championship game. And yet, it's only been a ten year drought for Houston as opposed to Kansas City's eighteen years. (The Texans have only been in existence for ten years). There are 5 teams that have a longer conference championship appearance drought than the Chiefs. That would of course include the Bengals and Lions, as well as the Browns, Redskins, and Dolphins.

If you include only the years from 1966 to present, in which there was a Super Bowl not league championships, the Kansas City Chiefs have the second longest active streak since their last Super Bowl appearance. Obviously this stat won't include teams that have never been to a Super Bowl. It has been an astounding forty-two years since the Chiefs have competed in a Super Bowl. The only team with a longer streak is the Super Bowl III winning Jets at forty-three years.

We move on to the goal of every NFL team, winning the big game. Again, including only the years from 1966 to present, the Chiefs have the 4th longest active drought since winning a Super Bowl. The Falcons (forty-five years) and Bengals (forty-three years) have never won the big game. The Jets (forty-three years ago) won it the year before the Chiefs who haven't won a Super Bowl in forty-two years.

Our Kansas City Chiefs seem to have an affinity for length. They set records for the length of games, and are on the verge of setting records for the length of time that a professional football team can remain completely inept without being booed out of town, or disbanded.

In the Chiefs history they have had 3 quarterbacks that were first round draft selections. Len Dawson was selected by the Steelers in the first round and won a Super Bowl with the Chiefs oh so many years ago. Steve Fuller was drafted by the Chiefs, and earned a Super Bowl ring (along with a gold record and platinum video for the Super Bowl Shuffle) with '85 Bears, and finally (the one that no Chiefs fan or front office member seems to be able to let go) Todd Blackledge.

That's three first round quarterbacks with two Super Bowl rings and one complete bust. Warren Moon went undrafted, Joe Montana was a third round selection at the end of an incredible career. Rich Gannon was a fourth rounder, and Trent Green was an eighth round pick that the team traded a first round pick to acquire. It's been twenty-nine years since the Chiefs drafted a first round quarterback. It's been eighteen years since the Chiefs won a playoff game. It's been forty-two years since Kansas City has appeared in, or won a Super Bowl.

I was born in 1974. That will make me thirty-eight years old in September of 2012, and I've been a die hard Chiefs fan since I got my first jersey at three years old. I have never seen my team in a Super Bowl, and have only low resolution videos of the game to re-live post-live. Thirty-five years of suffering. I can barely remember a playoff game win by my Chiefs. I will never forget the first round bust of a quarterback that proved he couldn't read an NFL defense. And yet, I'm ready to move on from Blackledge. I'm willing to try again. I'd like the chance to put painful memories aside, replaced by new ones of possible greatness. I'm sick and tired of hearing how long it's been since.......

I, for one, am ready to build a Chiefs future that doesn't require me to post-live an era in which I hadn't even been born yet to justify my blind love for the Chiefs. Length matters, it's time to end the streak. Twenty-nine years is long enough. Do whatever it takes Mr. Pioli. Go out and get us Andrew Luck, or Robert Griffin III. The way I live my life, it's more than half over. I'd like to RE-live a Chiefs Super Bowl before I die, instead of just post-living one.

Poll
What's the most painful streak of length of the Chiefs?
29 years without taking a first round QB
200 votes
18 years without winning a playoff game
713 votes
18 years without going to a conference championship
22 votes
42 years without a Super Bowl appearance
417 votes
42 years with a Super Bowl win
261 votes
3 years of having to read this idiots comments and posts on Arrowhead Pride
66 votes

1679 votes | Poll has closed

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Uh huh huh huh huh uh huh

You said… okay i’ll read it now.

Meh...
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by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 31, 2012 7:16 PM CST reply actions  

All of the above

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by LadyChief on Jan 31, 2012 7:19 PM CST reply actions  

/sniffle....

but, but, but… that means you’re sick of reading my stuff, and you think I’m an idiot.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm just sick of losing and no QB..................................

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by LadyChief on Jan 31, 2012 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm just 'internet hitting on you' like always

the sniffles were designed to draw sympathy.
I was hoping for a Florence Nightingale effect.

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by Texas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha!

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by LadyChief on Jan 31, 2012 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

He'll need to wear a radiation suit

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by LadyChief on Jan 31, 2012 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll wear anything you tell me to.....

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

It was hard to choose the 18 Years or the two 42 years.

I went with 18 years without a playoff win that just stings to high heaven to me a little more.

by PSUkegreen on Jan 31, 2012 7:23 PM CST reply actions  

I was locked in the same debate

and went with the 42 with no appearance… as if I could handle making it all that way and losing better than something else.

I went with the lowest level thing I haven’t seen in my lifetime. I was alive for us drafting Blackledge (but was too young to care) and of course that means I saw Montana’s stint and the benefits thereof.

So that leaves appearing in a Super Bowl – which I’ve never seen us contend in. Of course I’d prefer we win but I think in terms of “painful”, not even having the opportunity is where it hurts.

by Ochophosphate on Jan 31, 2012 8:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I am 42 years old

so…don’t remember the SB win with Dawson…I do remember Montana leading our boys to the AFC Championship game, though…

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Jan 31, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm 26 and havent been suffering for 42 years so I chose 18 years without winning a playoff game.

Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
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by nateforchiefs on Jan 31, 2012 7:27 PM CST reply actions  

I'm 36 and was locked in the same debate

ultimately, I went with the 42 years. That’s a long GD time to have not accidentally gotten hot in the playoffs. Hell, it’s really a chicken and the egg argument, I guess.

In accordance with the prophecy

by SCKSChief on Feb 1, 2012 8:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for increasing everyone's level of depression btw

Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
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by nateforchiefs on Jan 31, 2012 7:28 PM CST reply actions  

if depression is what it takes to get people OFF the insane-o Kyle Orton bandwagon... then bring it on

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 7:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Unless we can get Luck I say trade down and stockpile some picks for this year or next.

Im not convinced Griffen will be a good pro so I dont want to trade up for him. Barkley in 2013 for the win!

Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
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by nateforchiefs on Jan 31, 2012 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

We will have to be one of the worst teams in the league

to bag Matt Barkley OR Tyler Wilson.

I would gladly take either but I’d also gladly take Luck or Griffin. It’s just very unlikely.

by bamachief5558 on Jan 31, 2012 11:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

If we trade down and acquire more picks it gives us more stuff to get one of those guys

Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.

by nateforchiefs on Feb 1, 2012 7:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

I think that if we can’t acquire RG3 or DeCastro, I’d like to trade down to the VERY end of round 1 and try to pile up 2s, 3s, and 4s and CLEAN UP in those rounds.

In accordance with the prophecy

by SCKSChief on Feb 1, 2012 8:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

We got an extra 3rd for moving down 6 spots last year, lets do that and more this year.

Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.

by nateforchiefs on Feb 1, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

And I'm not talking in just one trade either

I’d like to ratchet down round one…thinking about three trades, a la Cleveland a couple years back. Too bad they managed to screw that up.

In accordance with the prophecy

by SCKSChief on Feb 1, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Trade our rnd 1 for 2nd rounders.

Trade as many of those as we can for 1st rd picks next year.

Hope that one of those teams is the worst in the league.

by TwelfthMan on Feb 1, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

now i'm despressed

Listening to young whippersnappers complain due to their lack of patience…….I have seen all the good of the chiefs past and cant help myself in looking foward to the next year when it will be the chiefs year.

by aaronbrown87 on Jan 31, 2012 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

True

Soon we will go down the Hill and get all those Mother-Fricken Trophies (together)

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 31, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Enough is Enough

Chiefs and steelers in the afc championship game next season. Dam it doesnt hurt to Dream does it.

by chiefsfool on Jan 31, 2012 7:28 PM CST reply actions  

If Todd Haley is the OC for the Steelers,

That would be a great story line for the game…

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
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by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 31, 2012 7:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Spaghetti- ohs!!!!!!!!!!!

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by LadyChief on Jan 31, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow what a serious wake up call

There has been a constant in all those years…the ownership. Maybe the Hunts are not demanding enough or engaged enough?

Maybe we need to stop being such a darn conservative ball club under Pioli. Stop making safe choices. Take some risk!!

Stop being just “good enough”….we have been good enough for the past 40yrs.

Hunt needs to demand that Pioli stop with the whole “right 53” bullcrap! The right 53 players are the guys who are most talented on the football field! That’s it!

This post really ticks me off….makes me angry at the Hunt family for allowing this mediocrity!

How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn

by Matt_Grbac on Jan 31, 2012 7:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Way to go Texas Chief.

You put Matt in a tizzy. I hope you are extremely proud of yourself… idiot.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 31, 2012 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

He is..........................................

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by LadyChief on Jan 31, 2012 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

good.. Matt is a better writer when he's pissed off about something.

His venom mixes nicely with his natural comical nature and the result is always worth reading =)

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I can agree with that

Some of his best posts are post game, after a Chiefs loss.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 31, 2012 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey man

Get outta my head! Your making me say mean stuff about the Chiefs!

Seriously….it’s hard to have a positive perspective when you hear the facts. It’s easy to clam up in your own homerism while plugging your ears. It’s called tough love, we get on to our kids cause we want then to be better. Same with these post and some negative comments…some guys will not settle for the same BS year in and year out.

How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn

by Matt_Grbac on Jan 31, 2012 7:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Mattie

Football is a business, and a prosperous one.

Just like politics, nothing really matters but the dollar bill on the level of upper management.

The Kraft family could care less about Super Bowls.

till Tom Brady made it happen

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 31, 2012 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Steve do not say that! It's not true! (plugs ears) Lalalala....

Ok….plain and freaking simple! Get a QB! Get a QB NOW!!!

Pioli needs to check his big shiny bald head and wake up!!! QB driven league means you can’t win without one!

It’s such a simple equation. Pioli thinks he is so smart and that he will revolutionize the NFL with his right 53 mumbo jumbo! Seriously, is Pioli that egomaniacal that he refuses to let the NFL tell him how to run his team.

How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn

by Matt_Grbac on Jan 31, 2012 7:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Egomaniacal...check

In accordance with the prophecy

by SCKSChief on Feb 1, 2012 8:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Hell, at this point KC isn't even "good enough"

This team, as a whole, is still crap. Sure there are bright spots, but until they show something in the post-season, they are crap.

In accordance with the prophecy

by SCKSChief on Feb 1, 2012 8:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Thank you for being a voice of truth (IMO because we agree mostly of course) on here, SC.

And you don’t feel the need to string together 1,000 words to describe nickel and dime concepts – cause you have to try to prove what an intellectual superior you are in pissing contests.

Have a great evening! :+)

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by LocoLoboChico on Feb 1, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

wow, should I be offended by that?

Im not sure if that was a direct shot at me or not.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Feb 1, 2012 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Not really

The Lions killed us and they are looking great. Stacked with talent…young talent.

How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn

by Matt_Grbac on Jan 31, 2012 7:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

and what I want a QB that has a cannon for anarm

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by LadyChief on Jan 31, 2012 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Brodie Croyle had a cannon for "anarm"

Unfortunately, he was loaded with blanks.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 31, 2012 7:47 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

and a wheelchair

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by LadyChief on Jan 31, 2012 7:48 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

haha Rec'd because it's true.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Cannons

Are the Queen of the battlefield.

We need a Queen to lead the Chiefs!

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 31, 2012 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think Clark and Scott will let me

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by LadyChief on Jan 31, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

show a little thigh and then shock them by your ability to throw a more accurate deep ball than Palko or Cassel.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Perhaps a beer drinking Queen

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 31, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

So where is his mustang?

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by LadyChief on Jan 31, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I found it...........

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by LadyChief on Jan 31, 2012 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

:(

Prostate exams Guys

Schedule em today

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 31, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

They're another Stafford injury

and Mega Tron leaving in FA away from being right back to a bottom feeder. I think the playoffs were a greater indication of where they’re at than the regular season. They didn’t beat anybody this year.

by DeuceDouglas on Jan 31, 2012 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

And when Cassel went down we were screwed

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by LadyChief on Jan 31, 2012 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Come on Clark

Have the balls to stand up to pioli,and demand that do what ever it takes to get to the superbowl.spend that money and take chances,or else its your ass this time.

by chiefsfool on Jan 31, 2012 7:37 PM CST reply actions  

I don't think Clark has to stand up to Pioli.

He hired the guy and signs his checks.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 31, 2012 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Great post

this is the reason I want some risk… calculated risk… playing it safe so far for the Chiefs has not brought Championships

Please Draft responsibly we fans can only take so much !!!

by Battle AXE on Jan 31, 2012 7:43 PM CST reply actions  

Just Think...

NEXT YEAR when we do a little better and come in 1st or 2nd in the division. San Diego and Denver will blow up their current teams when they finish 3rd and 4th. They will aggressively move up in the draft and select Jones and Barkley while we are stuck with Cassel and his escalating contract($7.5 Mill/2013 and $9 Mill/2014)! THEN we get to see those teams build up properly and win some more playoff games WHILE we go trade for our next backup(throw away) QB! We ALWAYS set the bar REALLY HIGH for our QBs!

sarcasm
SMDH

WAR Kansas City Chiefs KINGDOM!!!

by Jason Drue Keith on Jan 31, 2012 7:43 PM CST reply actions  

Rec

Your finale was more impressive than Romney’s speech tonite :)

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 31, 2012 7:44 PM CST reply actions  

And especially his singing ability

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by nateforchiefs on Jan 31, 2012 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

A team game
Not surprisingly, when you can run versus a team (to the tune of over 130 yards per game) you don’t have to rely on the pass to win. That’s a good thing for every team not named the Chiefs, because facing the sixth ranked pass defense would be a real bitch if you couldn’t just fall back on running the ball through a weak middle of the defensive line.

And Gregg played well as NT in our scheme and DJ went to the pro-Bowl as an ILB

Maybe the 3-4 is passe, or maybe that sad sack Offense put our D in a position on short fields to get RUN-over.

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 31, 2012 7:47 PM CST reply actions  

I will firmly disagree that Kelly Gregg played well.

He played better than Ron Edwards, but was very inconsistent all season. I believe we signed him about five years too late. Think of the Shonne Green play in the Jets game.

That happened a lot through out the year.

He was easy for guards to maneuver into Dorsey and see them both out of position.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 31, 2012 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

how about we march them across the board and make them queens then?

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 31, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Gregg played as well as can be expected. and better than anyone in recent history for the Chiefs at NT

but he looked positively worn out by the 1/2 way mark of the season. He didn’t play “well”.. he just played “alright”

DJ’s job speciality is not run stuffing. I don’t put the blame on him for how porous we were in the middle of the field. He made some nice plays knifing through the line and penetrating… but more often than not he had coverage responsibilities. It was the guy standing next to him that couldn’t seem to rush a gap or plug an inside run.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Gilberry or Bailey

since that other dude wasn’t on the field

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 31, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

88 total tackles on 662 plays

Belcher was a beast against the run 18th in the league, and then in coverage where we were 6th overall he either did enough or wasn’t on the field.

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 31, 2012 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Wallace had 355 Snaps and 4 total tackles

Bailey had 294 Snaps and 7 total tackles

both as 3-4 DE/DT

Somebody was not stopping something

Jackson/Dorsey 1251 Snaps 111 Total Tackles
Kelly Gregg 544 snaps and 35 Total Tackles

just saying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 31, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Even then

he was a massive upgrade over Ron Edwards…of whom we got what, 3,4,5 years?

In accordance with the prophecy

by SCKSChief on Feb 1, 2012 8:08 AM CST up reply actions  

15 Playoff Games!

3-12 Record!
10 of the 12 losses were to teams with solid FIRST ROUND QBS!
We will keep taking Kreig, Bono, Grbac, Green and Cassel’s into gun fights going against Greise, Kelly, Marion, Elway and P. Manning! Can you say beating a dead horse?

WAR Kansas City Chiefs KINGDOM!!!

by Jason Drue Keith on Jan 31, 2012 7:59 PM CST reply actions  

but...but....but....

Chiefs Fans: I swear I heard it whinny on that last smack with the jockey’s whip. In fact.. I’m SURE of it…. Hit him again! that’ll do the trick…

Chiefs Front Office: OK, but remember you asked for it. ….. Welcome to the team Mr. Orton. He’s a 5 year contract.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

IF..

we sign Orton to a 5 year deal. I will gouge my freakin eyes out with a spoon!

WAR Kansas City Chiefs KINGDOM!!!

by Jason Drue Keith on Jan 31, 2012 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Had to vote for the 18-year drought without a playoff win

37.5% of the NFL make the playoffs every season. Being a playoff team simply means you are slightly better than an average NFL team.

In a normal year, about 60% of teams reaching the playoffs will win at least 1 playoff game. That means you only need to be a slightly below average playoff team to win a game.

To go nearly 2 decades without a single playoff win is NOT an accident. You really have to try hard at suck-ti-tude to accomplish that feat.

by RrustyDawg on Jan 31, 2012 8:18 PM CST reply actions  

Kansas City Luck

We need to Change the Teams name

The Kansas City Bombers !

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 31, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Dam this is depressing… Look it’s really time to get a real qb in here, I mean seriously! Please Pioli stop the crap! I’m all on board for Peyton to KC! Do whatever it takes sign him Pioli!! Peyton with all our weapons and our surging D, Super Bowl bound baby!! Book it!

by Chiefsallday25 on Jan 31, 2012 8:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Not even close

Not winning a damn playoff game in 18 years(most or all of which have been at home right?). I mean damn, Seattles won a playoff game recently, Jets been to the conference finals with a retard a QB same with Niners. Just a terrible streak to have right now.

by KCinIL on Jan 31, 2012 8:37 PM CST reply actions  

Actually

Seattle went to the SB in the last decade…so that’s a poor comparison…

Could be worse…we could be the Browns…or the Jags….

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Jan 31, 2012 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm talkin when they beat the saints

So, no, it’s not. And Matt Hasselbeck was nowhere near legit then. Above average qb.

by KCinIL on Feb 1, 2012 1:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Also...

Hasslebeck was a legit QB when he was healthy…..

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Jan 31, 2012 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I am 18. Born in August

Guess which one hurts the most :(

When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.

Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.

CHIEFS WILL!

by NJChieffan16 on Jan 31, 2012 8:46 PM CST reply actions  

I'm 41!

JUST missed all of the Championships! I can “kind of” empathize!

WAR Kansas City Chiefs KINGDOM!!!

by Jason Drue Keith on Jan 31, 2012 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Having to tell your close friends that you're a Chiefs fan?

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Naw...

I’m PROUD to be a Chiefs Fan! I just wished that it pissed off the Hunt’s seeing the other three teams in our division winning playoff games like it does me! Since our last playoff win Denver has won 9 playoff games and both San Diego and Oakland have won five a piece! Looking for some Chiefs Pride from our ownership! I remember the Miami game this year when they panned across Clark. He was sitting there relaxed and kicked back eating his fine food and drinking his wine. IF that was me, they would have been calling someone to repair the drywall, repaint the suite AND they would have needed a new TV in there! We were getting our A** kicked and Clark didn’t look like it bothered him one bit!

WAR Kansas City Chiefs KINGDOM!!!

by Jason Drue Keith on Jan 31, 2012 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Can We...

just email this entire thread to the kind folks at 1 Arrowhead Drive?

PLEASE???

WAR Kansas City Chiefs KINGDOM!!!

by Jason Drue Keith on Jan 31, 2012 8:52 PM CST reply actions  

3 years of reading your diatribes? child, please ...

3 MINUTES is more than too much!

just when you thought it was safe to turn on the computer … and THIS!

Boy, Stop!

is there NOTHING that will appease your seemingly insatiable appetite for whining about shit you cannot control? did you not come with an OFF button? someone tell me how to remove the batteries … damnit, I can NEVER find the REMOTE when I NEED it

anything ELSE you’d like to bitch about? go ahead, I have the volume off and the monitor shut down just so you can’t annoy me (at least for awhile)

sheeeeeeeeeeeesh!

Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 31, 2012 9:05 PM CST reply actions  

RAWKC!!!

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 31, 2012 9:06 PM CST up reply actions  

oh no ... that man is LEGEND

now Tex here … pfffffft! cheap imitation who doesn’t understand the importance of all caps or exclamation marks

Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 31, 2012 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Well he did paraphrase from Wikipedia,

so there is something definitely wrong with him.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 31, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

well we knew that already
there is something definitely wrong with him

Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 31, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Here's my choice fill-in for the poll

How many different teams that have picked #1 overall in the draft since 1994 (last playoff win) that have won a playoff game or been to the Superbowl. Or even won it

by HIT34MAN on Jan 31, 2012 9:08 PM CST reply actions  

It is a process

and for many years a philosophy.

It was not always the QB that kept us from winning playoff games but the entire team.

So putting the emphasis on QB is somewhat misguided when talking about 42 years.

We had an Offense (the Best) and we had a Defense (the Best), but never at the same times

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 31, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah exactly. I never blamed our failures simply on the QB.

although we did have one (Gannon) & chose not to play him for an important game against the Broncos & cost us the Superbowl. We would’ve beat Pittsburgh at home the next week & at least would’ve played in the Superbowl against the Packers

by HIT34MAN on Jan 31, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I personally never thought we were goin to win that game.

97 it was all there & we had the strongest team in the AFC

by HIT34MAN on Jan 31, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Losing to the Colts was the worst

Best Offense and the Better Defense and we go down.

So Losing is Losing but great seasons galore amidst the Ruins.

:) I AM A CHIEFS FAN

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 31, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Todd Haley was getting close

only needed that QB to elevate the Offensive players to that next step from 2010. Romeo and his Defense made that step regardless of injuries in 2011.

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 31, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

Decisions made, The players did their best in many seasons but weren’t quite good enuff or lead quite good enuff. There is a reason that those that have been there before get there again and again

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 31, 2012 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

the more accurate question would be a first round QB..not #1 over all.... just sayin

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

and If I'm going to research the answer, I'm going to make it apply to my post... therefore 1st round QB's =)

’94 Heath Shuler – X, Trent Dilfer (SB)
’95 Kerry Collins (NFC Championship Carolina, SB Giants), Steve McNair
’96 None
’97 Drunkenmiller – X
’98 Peyton Manning (SB and then some), Ryan Leaf -X (this year speaks very loudly for itself)
’99 Tim Couch (playoffs 4th season), Donovon McNabb (Playoffs, Championship games, SB), Akili Smith – X, Dante Culpepper (NFC Championship game), Cade McNown – X
’00 Chad Pennington (playoffs 3rd season)
’01 Mike Vick (Playoffs)
’02 David Carr (76 sacks in one year LOL) – X, Joey Harrington – X, Patrick Ramsey – X
’03 Rex Grossman (SB)
’04 Eli Manning (SB and then some), Philip Rivers (Playoffs), Ben Rothlesberger (SB and then some), J.P. Losmann – X
’05 Alex Smith (Championship game), Aaron Rodgers (SB and then some), Jason Campbell – x
’06 Vince Young – X, Matt Leinhart – X, Jay Cutler – X
’07 Jamarcus Russel – X (with a turd on top), Brady Quinn – X
’08 Matt Ryan (Playoffs), Joe Flacco (Playoffs)
’09 Matt Stafford (playoffs), Mark Sanchez (Playoffs), Josh Freeman – X
’10 Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow
’11 Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder

I reserve the right to hold my opinions of 2010-2011 for now. It’s really early in their careers.
Thats 40 guys in the first round. (6 of which don’t count yet).. leaving 34 guys with at least 2 seasons in the league.
18 of the 34 have been to the playoffs. and 7 have been to the Superbowl.
I can argue that (beginning with the ’04 list) … there are a lot of guys that STILL may reach higher goals than they have thus far.

Ill take 18 out 34 for Odds on a first round QB fir the Chiefs… any day of the week. and Twice on Sunday.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I have been known to be an out of control gambler

and I would not take 18 for 34 or 7 for 34 which is the most important one. I do get your point and we consistently agree on Chiefs matters, but I disagree on this one.

by Steve_in_RI on Jan 31, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

show me another place (free agency or 2nd or later rounds)...

..where you can get 18 for 34 odds of a decent QB, or even 7 for 34 of a Super Bowl winner.

It’s the absolute best odds available in the NFL.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with Texas chief

we need a go after a 1st QB in my opinion their is only 2 luck and RG3 so we better trade up for once we can’t waste any more time with all this young talent no more lost time

by kcchiefs2782 on Jan 31, 2012 11:46 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Hmmm...

Bengals – 1994 (DT), 1995 (RB), 2003 (QB) – 0 playoff wins
Jets – 1996 (WR) – 6 playoff wins, played in 1 AFC Championship
Rams – 1997 (OT), 2010(QB) – 6 playoff wins, played in 2 SB’s, WInner SB XXXIV
Colts – 1998 (QB) – 10 playoff wins, played in 2 SB’s, Winner SB XLI
Browns – 1999 (QB), 2000 (DE) – 0 playoff wins
Falcons – 2001 (QB) – 5 playoff wins, played in 1 SB
Texans – 2002 (QB), 2006 (DE) – 1 playoff win
Chargers – 2004 (QB) – 5 playoff wins, played in 1 SB
49ers – 2005 (QB) – 8 playoff wins, won SB XXIX
Raiders – 2007 (QB) – 4 playoff wins, played in 1 SB
Dolphins – 2008 (OT) – 4 playoff wins
Lions – 2009 (QB) – 0 playoff wins
Panthers – 2011 (QB) – 6 playoff wins, played in 1 SB

by RrustyDawg on Jan 31, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

TEX CHIEF

Good post…depressing…but insightful.

TOUGH

by TOUGH on Jan 31, 2012 9:48 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

in order to reset all those stats, we'd have to have a first round QB AND a Super Bowl win.

In all for it, btw.

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Worst Chiefs streak wasn't even in your poll

Over 15 years between playoff appearances: Dec 25, 1971 – Dec 28, 1986. Those were truly the worst of times.

The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. ~ Groucho Marx

by Big Chief on Jan 31, 2012 11:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

love the post!

RG3, RG3, RG3!!!

by kcchiefs2782 on Jan 31, 2012 11:41 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

You are insane

we would have to give up too much. Period. Wnt to get RG3? you will see what a bad frnchise will do to get him. Hopefully its not us

by tomachop on Feb 1, 2012 12:36 AM CST reply actions  

along with burfict

great idea, but after careful consideration…uuuh no

by tomachop on Feb 1, 2012 12:42 AM CST reply actions  

I voted 29 years without drafting a QB in the 1st round

Because all of this teams post season woes stem from that

In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti

by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Feb 1, 2012 12:49 AM CST reply actions  

this isn't really a streak but.........

In the past 20 years , only 1 QB the Chiefs have drafted has started a game(Croyle). Also , the only other QB this team drafted that threw a pass was Matt Blundin, he completed 2 passes. By way of comparrison , that is how many Marcus Allen completed while he was here

In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti

by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Feb 1, 2012 1:04 AM CST reply actions  

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