How Many Of You Would Be Dissapointed if Manning came to KC?

Please respond why here...

by Shackett on Jan 30, 2012 4:33 PM CST reply actions

That's a lot of money that could go somewhere else, man.

Do you want to win one Super Bowl now then be mediocre for 10 years or 3 Super Bowls over the next decade?

by NigerianNightmare on Jan 30, 2012 4:43 PM CST up reply actions

We haven't won a single playoff game in 18 years

I wouldn’t get too far ahead of myself with the 3 SBs in 10 years talk.

Tebow might know Jesus, but Bill Muir is old enough to have actually babysat him in the manger.

by Sudden on Jan 30, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs

It's not mutually exclusive

A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush, anyway.

by MichaelMantastic on Jan 30, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions

one hand in the bush is even better

CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal

by kabrink on Jan 30, 2012 11:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

hehe

Stanzi: "If you don't love it, leave it! USA #1"

by GaryfromIA on Jan 31, 2012 8:36 AM CST up reply actions

Ouch....I think it bit me!!!

I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important -like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by chiefsman7588 on Jan 31, 2012 7:47 PM CST up reply actions

I would take 1 SB and then be mediocre for the next 20 years at this point.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Jan 30, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs

Isn't that what we've been?

Oh wait, you said 20 years…read that wrong

by mushin on Feb 1, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions

How the hell are we winning 3 Superbowls in a decade without him?

Also, paying 1 guy will make a team mediocre for 10 years?
Also, haven’t we been mediocre for abour 40 years? Those options are weird.

by craig in calgary on Jan 30, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs

Unlike the Early 90s / Montana

The Chiefs could have the replacement in check w/ Stanzi (who might need another year on the Bench).

Outside of Rivers there isn’t a dominating 4th Quarter QB in the AFC West and San Diego looks like a mess right now.

by Shackett on Jan 30, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions

So this is what it's come to

“we haven’t had a franchise QB play on this team for 20 years (let alone never draft one ourselves), but lets hold our breath on a fifth round pick being the savior”

KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round

by trentchiefsfan on Jan 31, 2012 6:56 AM CST up reply actions

Trent Green was our short term franchise QB

Stanzi: "If you don't love it, leave it! USA #1"

by GaryfromIA on Jan 31, 2012 8:37 AM CST up reply actions

Trent Green was not that great, the offensive line was one of the best in history

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 31, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions

agreed

he was great for us. but 3 years with the most loaded offense in the league doesn’t make you a franchise QB

KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round

by trentchiefsfan on Feb 1, 2012 1:56 AM CST up reply actions

And it's not like we'd be cutting players to make cap room for him

hell, if he’s healthy & we are lucky with injuries we could win 3 Super Bowls in the next 4 years WITH him.

Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things

by jmcgoblue on Jan 31, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions

Super Bowl

Ask around… (this should be a poll) 1 Super Bowl every ten years is a pretty GREAT DEAL. Its been too long since the last one.

by Dotcommer Dude KC on Jan 31, 2012 8:20 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Manning gives us an immediate chance to win one...

Who’s going to give us a chance to win 3 of the next 10? We’re not getting RG III or Luck. Our only chance would be to “Suck for Barkley” like the Colts did this year, and then RAC would likely get fired…no thanks….

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Jan 31, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions

... unless it turns out he can't throw the ball

which may not be something anyone knows until August, and it may be that he never fully recovers at all

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by upamtn on Jan 31, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions

we won one super bowl

and have been very mediocre for the last 41 years.

I could handle a change

The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.

by sm7600 on Jan 31, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions

1.Cassell costs too much too release and, 2. Peyton wouldnt play for us because of our VERY offensive line would end his carrer before midseason…. Anyone see our O-line signings in january??

by aaronbenavidez426@yahoo.com on Jan 31, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions

Correction, Cassel's contract was designed to be friendly about now

Releasing him wouldn’t hurt.

As for the O-Line we need at a minimum one starter (I’m looking at you Barry) and a new G wouldn’t hurt. That’s what FA and the draft are for.

And Manning’s strength has always been that he stays untouched because he gets rid of the ball so damn fast. It’d work.

by mushin on Feb 1, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions

I would have to say no.

I would not be disappointment.

"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.

by Tomahawk29 on Jan 30, 2012 5:00 PM CST reply actions

Neither would I

Now, in all fairness, there would be some who would claim that I’m a disappointment (parents, teachers, wife, bosses, etc). But that’s for slightly different reasons.

Tebow might know Jesus, but Bill Muir is old enough to have actually babysat him in the manger.

by Sudden on Jan 30, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions

My Dad always said I was disappointment

He usually added an “a” there, but still…

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)

by MNchiefsfan on Jan 30, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions

I'd be disappointed

Spending the amount of $$$ he would require on a player who would be a liability is disappointing on a business perspective.

Look out for the CHIEFS in 2012!!!!!!

by KC-Murdock on Jan 30, 2012 5:24 PM CST reply actions

sad to say

He’s probably done.

Look out for the CHIEFS in 2012!!!!!!

by KC-Murdock on Jan 30, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions

But what if he's OK?

by bamachief5558 on Jan 30, 2012 7:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

for how long?

Do you really want to hold your breath and pray every time he goes down or as soon as the defense penetrates the pocket?

Look out for the CHIEFS in 2012!!!!!!

by KC-Murdock on Jan 30, 2012 8:04 PM CST up reply actions

We've been doing it with Cassel for years

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)

by MNchiefsfan on Jan 30, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions

No he said do you want to pray every time he falls down, not THAT he falls down.

Faithless is he who says farewell when the road darkens...

by 5280ChiefsFan on Jan 31, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions

Some of the best surgeons in the country say that he can recover 100%

Based on what I’ve read, the main issue is whether or not his nerve cells are able to regenerate. If they are he’ll be completely healthy, if not he’ll never have the same velocity on his throws. So if he’s recovered, he should be no more of an injury risk than any other 36 year old QB who has never missed a game.

And to your earlier point, from a financial perspective it’s a no-brainer to pay him. Additional ticket sales alone would probably pay for the increased payroll for his salary…add in potential playoff games & merchandise sales from the buzz & it would be quite profitable for Hunt.

Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things

by jmcgoblue on Jan 31, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions

then too, a couple of league surgeons were cited yesterday in a Jason Cole story ...

Not only is the nerve regeneration and arm strength an ongoing issue, and taking longer than anyone thought, but …

… two league-affiliated doctors with experience in spinal fusion surgery said it could take up to a year before Manning knows if he can return. Both said the risk is too great for Manning to play again …

I’m not a doctor, but those guys are … even if by the start of next season he can play again, and right now even that is looking hazy at best, there is still a risk relating to the surgery itself

it’s really time to put to rest the myths that he’s at no more risk than anyone else

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;ylt=AlLFe.G2sPLfyXXmsF7YZ6tDubYF?slug=jc-colepeyton_manning_colts_neck_surgery_jim_irsay013012

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by upamtn on Jan 31, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions

The nice thing is, there are stories out there to bolster either side of the argument ;)

Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things

by jmcgoblue on Feb 1, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions

No, I would still be a human being, although my emotions might change.

The General Manager might be disappointment, however, if he was more concerned with who can fill seats instead of who can win games.

Would You Be Disappointment If Manning Came To Kansas City?

If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?

by electriclight on Jan 30, 2012 5:34 PM CST reply actions

zing

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by upamtn on Jan 30, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions

I would be more disappointed if

we were still 20 million under the cap at the start of next season without him then i would be 5 under with him… if he’ll come then bring him in, and also remember hes not going to get as much as we think. Hes old and damaged goods and no team besides us that needs a qb has as much cap room as we do

by tyson_jackson who? on Jan 30, 2012 5:59 PM CST reply actions

If Manning says he can play,

Pioli should go get him. He was going to play matt cassel, one of the worst QBs in the NFL anyway, so if Manning goes down we can play him or stanzi for backup. It makes us into superbowl contenders immediately, and the only real opponents during the season will be injuries. Chiefs cannot swing and miss on a guy that can bring us a superbowl, especially when we are trotting out a terrible QB. People trash the jets for criticizing Sanchez, but at least the players are putting the franchise ahead of any player. Pioli is going to play Cassel till the end of his career if everyone goes along and pretends that he is a NFL QB.

by andrew33 on Jan 30, 2012 7:08 PM CST reply actions

If Manning is healthy and the Colts have cut him

then I would be beyond pissed if we didn’t at least try for him.

I mean the thing is that with an elite QB this team can do it. Right now.

by bamachief5558 on Jan 30, 2012 7:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions

In the next 2 years..........

There will not be 1 proven, elite QB on the market (other then brees who will be re-signed) If Peyton is healthy, which he said he would be on espn today, then we better try to get him/ You can’t tell me, that If Manning is signed by the Chiefs you’d be mad! Just a year and a half ago he was top 4 in QB’s in the NFL! And there is not a QB in the draft, or on the free agency market, that has proved that they can p;lay at the level that Peyton Manning can. And the Pioli, Crennel, and the whole staff has about 3 years tops to get close to the Super bowl to keep their jobs, and Peyton Manning is the best QB to take them there in these next 3 years. Yeah, you can say Matt Flynn would be a good pickup better then signing Peyton, but he is far from proven too.

Charles, Mccluster, Moeaki, Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin, DJ, Berry, Flowers, Carr= Super Bowl Bound.

by AaronMannicci on Jan 31, 2012 6:56 PM CST up reply actions

50/50

I’m 50/50 on this I’d like peyton is he is a 100% healthy but if we get him and he keeps up this weak arm strength and shoulder issues due to his neck and nerves acting up not thank you!

by kcchiefs2782 on Jan 30, 2012 7:47 PM CST via Android app reply actions

if*

by kcchiefs2782 on Jan 30, 2012 7:47 PM CST via Android app up reply actions

I'd take him at 80%

80% of Manning >>>>>> Cassel at 100%.

by AnkenyChiefsFan on Jan 31, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions

I'd rather have Manning throwing with his left arm than Cassel throwing with this right.

Faithless is he who says farewell when the road darkens...

by 5280ChiefsFan on Jan 31, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions

Nope

And for everyone who disagrees, you’re crazy and not nearly as awesome as I am. Just sayin’. Nuff said

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)

by MNchiefsfan on Jan 30, 2012 10:26 PM CST reply actions

nobody's as aesome as you are, MN ...

wait, did I just say that? you’re right … I’m crazy

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by upamtn on Jan 30, 2012 11:31 PM CST up reply actions

That's what I've been telling you, man!

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)

by MNchiefsfan on Jan 31, 2012 2:46 AM CST up reply actions

PERIOD!!!

KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round

by trentchiefsfan on Jan 31, 2012 2:13 AM CST up reply actions

I knew I didn't have enough exclamaiton points

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)

by MNchiefsfan on Jan 31, 2012 2:46 AM CST up reply actions

not nearly enough caps lock either

I’m starting to wonder if you actually believe what you said

KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round

by trentchiefsfan on Jan 31, 2012 6:48 AM CST up reply actions

forgot this ... EVER!!!

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 31, 2012 9:21 AM CST up reply actions

nope

Because it would show Pioli being creative and realizing that an upgrade over Cassel vastly improves the team. Sadly though with recent reports all indicators are pointing to his neck being far too suspect to play again and he retires. Sad for the best QB ever to not be able to go out on his own terms.

KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round

by trentchiefsfan on Jan 31, 2012 2:16 AM CST reply actions

Peyton Manning would be a great fit in KC...

as the offensive coordinator. The sheer amount of repetition and film study he will require of Cassel will either force Cassel to improve or cause his brain to hemorrhage and return to the IR before the season starts.

by TheValleybetterthanPAC12 on Jan 31, 2012 10:05 AM CST reply actions

that is BRILLIANT!

… and imagine the look in his eyes when he’s taken to a small room deep inside Arrowhead Stadium, filled with videos and screens and playbooks and diagrams and told: “there WILL be a test!”

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by upamtn on Jan 31, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions

yeah maybe Cassel wouldn't be half bad if he could actually read a defense.

Faithless is he who says farewell when the road darkens...

by 5280ChiefsFan on Jan 31, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions

You take the chance on Manning if he becomes a free agent and says he can still play

If we keep starting Cassel, what is that saying to all the players on the Chiefs? Everyone is going to leave the team. Show that we want to win, and it is not even a stretch to say Chiefs are Superbowl contenders if Manning can stay healthy. If manning/doctors declares that he is healthy enough to play, we take him.

by andrew33 on Jan 31, 2012 2:59 PM CST reply actions

A coworker of mine made an intriguing comment today

If Peyton Manning were to retire, would he become an offensive coordinator?

I thought that was an interesting idea…he is certainly well-versed in offensive game plans and in game adjustments.

Thoughts?

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 31, 2012 3:24 PM CST reply actions

How many great QBs have gone on to become great coaches?

Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things

by jmcgoblue on Jan 31, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions

I don't know

but I know that nobody can read a opposing defense like Manning can. And he essentially has been calling plays for the last decade. Would that translate to the sideline or the booth? I think there is chance it could…

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 31, 2012 5:59 PM CST up reply actions

been "biting my tongue" on this ... just can't anymore

bottom line?

I’d be ridiculously pissed off if Pioli was asinine and stupid enough to even consider Manning …

first, if Manning was even close to healthy Irsay would welcome him back to win his own title in his own town … but Irsay knows already that Manning’s not even close to close to ready and might never be ready, on top of the extra risk involved … Irsay may be a cold-blooded owner but the last thing he wants to see is Manning carted off the field after a hit and learn that his prize QB (and yes, The Franchise for many years and yes, more than “just an employee” is suddenly wheelchair bound … he wants that? please … nobody wants that (and yes, according to NFL doctors Manning’s risk is indeed higher now following three surgeries)

but let’s play pretend here … we’ll pretend that Manning is cut … how long does a team need to wait to find out if he can throw again? a month>? 3 months? 6 months? perhaps, maybe longer … and yes, maybe never

a team should put the universe on hold to wait and find out if he’s cleared AND ready? how shortsighted is that? very! rather like the foolish shortsightedness that brought us Tyler Palko to back up the indestructible Matt Cassel

Pioli’s done more than enough damage to the team already … it’s time he take steps to get it fixed instead of getting us mired down even further in quicksand …

Mr Orton … calling Mr Orton

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by upamtn on Jan 31, 2012 11:40 PM CST reply actions

I don't disagree with the sentiments

I do think though, that if Manning proves he can throw, there is no reason to not sign him. He is the healthiest (this injury aside) 36 year old QB in the NFL.

You couldn’t be MORE right about the waiting game. Those are the details and I’m sure you know this…the devil is in the details.

Bottom line: do I want a healthy Manning? You damn betcha! Am I willing to wait six months to see if he is healthy? Negative.

In accordance with the prophecy

by SCKSChief on Feb 1, 2012 9:09 AM CST up reply actions