Chiefs Hire Special Teams Coach; Part Ways With Three Others
by Joel Thorman on Jan 30, 2012 2:31 PM CST
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PrintWe have some actual Kansas City Chiefs coaching news.
Just not the offensive coordinator (yet).
The Chiefs announced they've hired Tom McMahon to coach special teams. McMahon comes from the St. Louis Rams where he was the special teams coordinator the last three seasons. Here's an interview from last November with the Chiefs new special teams coach.
Prior to the Chiefs, McMahon was in St. Louis and before that two years with the Atlanta Falcons. He was also on the Louisville staff as well as Utah State.
McMahon's hire also means Steve Hoffman, the previous special teams coach, is out. The Chiefs announced he has not been retained.
And in more Chiefs coaching news, two more coaches are not coming back: receivers coach Richie Anderson and assistant offensive line coach Pat Perles were not retained. It had been previously rumored that they were on their way out.
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Sounds promising.
McMahon joins the Chiefs after a three-year stint (2009-11) in St. Louis where he served as special teams coordinator for the Rams. In 2010, the Rams had the league’s third-best net punting average at 40.0 yards per punt. Additionally, McMahon’s primary punt returner, Danny Amendola, led the NFL with 12 returns of 20-plus yards in 2009 and 2010 combined.
"Be an analyst. Don’t be a douchebag." - Terrell Suggs to Skip Bayless
by Tarkus on Jan 30, 2012 2:33 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
EB should return punts
Just a thought.
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
Twitter: @Mr_Hoosier
Why?
We had the 3rd best PR in the league without breaking any long ones and with a coach who sucked at return strategy. Berry doesn’t need more snaps.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 30, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not only that.
Arenas was one of the best returners in collegiate history, and he’s done a great job considering he’s had very little blocking.
"Be an analyst. Don’t be a douchebag." - Terrell Suggs to Skip Bayless
by Tarkus on Jan 30, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd rather have
Steve Breaston returning than Eric Berry
That's a good thought
and Steve has said he’d like the opportunity to do it every once in awhile.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 30, 2012 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Man, remember not too long ago when we didn't have ANY good returners?
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
< cough > bobby wade < ahem >
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 30, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
Oh come on - he was no
EDDIE DRUMMOND
(facepalm)
by Ochophosphate on Jan 30, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
He was atrocious.
I remember watching him return andI kept thinking “we got ride of Dante for THIS?”
*Aw come on. Don't leave your Uncle T-Bag hanging. - Dr. Funke
*When we blitz, have the LB's do a KC Strip. Do this in remembrance of DT.
*Dear David Glass, as a lifelong Royals fan, I beg you to please sell the team. You have always been the problem; you will never be the solution.
rid*
*Aw come on. Don't leave your Uncle T-Bag hanging. - Dr. Funke
*When we blitz, have the LB's do a KC Strip. Do this in remembrance of DT.
*Dear David Glass, as a lifelong Royals fan, I beg you to please sell the team. You have always been the problem; you will never be the solution.
Vanover and Hall spoiled us
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006
What about McCluster?
It makes much more sense to have him as a part time return specialist than to see him continue to struggle coming out of the backfield. Keep Breaston in the slot where he can do some real damage. The McCluster experiment in the backfield should be over with Charles returning, Jones and Battle backing him up. If we’re not willing to slot him out as originally thought and make him our Wes Welker.
by Mysticmariner on Jan 30, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You'd think you'd want an offensive guy returning punts rather than a defensive guy
because he’d be more rested for it. But Arenas is so good at it that it’d be hard to replace him.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
You do remeber how the 2011 Season started don't you?
McClusterfumble.
"...and we're gonna be ready for them"!
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck".
Remember how it ended don't you?
We win at least 2 fewer games without Dex
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
by MNchiefsfan on Jan 30, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously we're still saying stuff like this?
Dex was better than TJ or Battle out of the backfiled, but they should replace him? Ridiculous
Dex was our best offensive player not named Dwayne Bowe this year. Check the stats.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
by MNchiefsfan on Jan 30, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
Yep, I really like what I've seen from Javier
and have wished for awhile now they’d try some different blocking schemes. They weren’t able to spring one since Dex’s in the 2010 opener and I’m pretty sure it isn’t because of the lack of speed or elusiveness of our returners.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 30, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
how can we all come together and convince Romeo to try out Javier at RB?
Arenas knows ho to make people miss. Draft another DB to take over a lot of his role on defense, and give him ten or twelve carries a game.
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Jan 30, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
He did get our 1st rushing TD of the year
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006
and something like 20% of all of them
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Jan 30, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
Thats what I like about Javy
He’s got the ability to plow through guys and make his own holes. Imagine how good he could be if he didn’t have to bulldoze his way through so many guys.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 30, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
It would just be fun
That’s all… I prefer he doesn’t, but it would be fun to watch, just like watching JC return kicks.
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
Twitter: @Mr_Hoosier
He did show a lot of ability as a returner at TN,
for turnovers and on special teams.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
So Amendola is coming with him?
How are his triceps doing? Anyone?
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Jan 30, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
Welcome Tom McMahon
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
welcome, Tom!
all this news … it’s tough to assimilate everything at one time
/Borg reference
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Ironically, you really have been assimilated.....
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Good to see.
A lot of people were saying that Hoffman is one of the better ST coaches in the league and that he should stay. However, it certainly didn’t show on game day. Way too many penalties, not enough production on returns, and of course who could forget the Seymour debacle of 2012?
Ron Paul 2012
by EricBerryYoYouScary on Jan 30, 2012 2:37 PM CST reply actions
Arenas was the best in the AFC in returns. Kickoffs is a whole different story with every kick essentially being a touchback.
I was talking about blocking
Arenas did a good job but it seems like he always has to break 2 tackles to even get 5 yards.
Ron Paul 2012
by EricBerryYoYouScary on Jan 30, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
He's a master at making at least the first guy miss.
And good thing too, since the first guy is usually right in his face.
"Be an analyst. Don’t be a douchebag." - Terrell Suggs to Skip Bayless
Exactly
Any time he didn’t get hit IMMEDIATELY he’d gain good yardage. Every single time.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
by MNchiefsfan on Jan 30, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
Hoffman's specialty is kickers and coverage
And he’s done a great job with our kickers and our coverage unit is one of the better ones in the league. But this team needs better return numbers especially on kickoffs because if Cassel is the QB then we need field position.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 30, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
With all the 3 and outs we need returns to the red zone everytime
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006
I was wondering if I had missed something
I was unaware they had let Hoffman go, but now that I see they’ve essentially announced it with the hiring of McMahon, then I’m all good.
I’m glad to see they went in a different direction. Hopefully now we can see some returns and a lot fewer ST’s SNAFU’s.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 30, 2012 2:37 PM CST reply actions
Yes sir!
Hard to complain about this move.
I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.
by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 30, 2012 2:37 PM CST reply actions
Special Teams
cost us the Super Bowl this year.
by Brad-KC on Jan 30, 2012 2:37 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
I'd say maybe 50%.
The other half is on Haley.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: CB Kirkpatrick/G DeCastro 1st rd, WR Wright/OT Adams or Sanders 2nd rd, QB Foles/ILB Cole 3rd rd, TE M. Williams/RB I. Pead 4th rd, S G. Iloka or DT/NT Hicks 5th rd, RB L. Dunbar or ILB Galippo 6th; FA Signings: NT Poliai or Hill; Resign: Carr, Bowe, Orton, McClain, Gordon, Belcher. Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
And another half was on Palko.
With the final half on Cassel.
"Be an analyst. Don’t be a douchebag." - Terrell Suggs to Skip Bayless
And the other 53% on Barry Richardson
2012 Goal: Be invited to Lady Buttercup's spring ball.
2012 Resolution: To establish a better cravat collection than anyone else on AP.
2012 Wish: Chiefs Super Bowl
Too....many....numbers.....
….so….much….mediocrity.
*Aw come on. Don't leave your Uncle T-Bag hanging. - Dr. Funke
*When we blitz, have the LB's do a KC Strip. Do this in remembrance of DT.
*Dear David Glass, as a lifelong Royals fan, I beg you to please sell the team. You have always been the problem; you will never be the solution.
Two blocked FGs in one game
No surprise a change was made.
by CapsLockKey on Jan 30, 2012 2:40 PM CST via Android app reply actions
our move to get Peyton Manning
a retirement cake?
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 30, 2012 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know, is this really a good move?
Clearly, the Hoff had to go, but according to Football Outsiders rankings, we are trading the the coach of the #22 ST for the coach of the #31 ST. Just sayin.
http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamst
Hard to say
they were as banged up as we were, probably even more so this season.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 30, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
At this point, yes.
A change needed to be made, and it happened. What more can we ask at this point?
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Jan 30, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
exactly. it sure beats another year with hoffman....that guy lacked creativity despite 2 very capable returners
3 if count breaston
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
If I'm reading those numbers right,
St. Louis was really hurt in the punting category, where we have an advantage just because of our punter. We also did better than they did in FG/XP, again I think because we have a better individual player. But then, they didn’t really do much different than we did in the return categories, which is where we need to improve, so /shrug.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
they didnt have one of the better punt returners in football
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
Oh right, they lost Amendola, didn't they?
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
hard to go by rankings.
a lot goes on injuries, and what they have. the rams lack talent at key positions, let alone depth on special teams
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
I think this has to be a lie.
Coaches don’t want to come to K.C.
RonSkitzo FOR PREZ BRAH
He is coming from St.Louis.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 30, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
So is our new PR guy.
Is StL now part of our tree?
"Be an analyst. Don’t be a douchebag." - Terrell Suggs to Skip Bayless
Yep
The part dogs pee on.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 30, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So we can be called Missouri West
RonSkitzo FOR PREZ BRAH
Chiefs play in Missouri.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
I thought they play in Kansas.
"Be an analyst. Don’t be a douchebag." - Terrell Suggs to Skip Bayless
Topeka, according to Peter King.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 30, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
They do have KC on their helmets, not MC.
"Be an analyst. Don’t be a douchebag." - Terrell Suggs to Skip Bayless
MO took that land from KS fair and square.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
You can have worlds of fun
We keep arrowhead.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 30, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
And then rubbed it in by keeping the name?
That’s just cold!
"Be an analyst. Don’t be a douchebag." - Terrell Suggs to Skip Bayless
Wouldn't it be Kansas' City then?
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 30, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
It's ours now.
Like Tarkus said, the name is just a war trophy.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Eastern Missouri West
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Jan 30, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
st louis and chicago have jumped into the fray
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
Gnus!
I was kinda hoping they’d find a way to keep Hoffman as a kicking coach. But I guess he’s too respected and young in his career to take a demotion and stay with the same team. He’ll probably find a job somewhere pretty fast.
I am encouraged by the changes in the offensive assistant positions, might mean that an as-yet-unannounced OC is already giving his input on assistant coaches.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
General:"Where are you from,son?"
Private:“Neeeeever heard of it”
Kind of reminds me of the hires.Bonus points if you can name the movie.
Hint:…not 22 guys off the street…. 12 guys from the hoos-gow.
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
by THE_TRUTH on Jan 30, 2012 2:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions
friggin mobile comment
Private:“Madison,Missouri,sir”
General: “Neeever heard of it”
ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.
by THE_TRUTH on Jan 30, 2012 2:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Gratuitous personal story: I ran the obstacle course they used in "Stripes."
The balance log had a divot.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
I felt like
this joke was going places…until your phone butchered it. Oh well, get em next time.
Letting offensive coaches walk
could indicate they know who they want as the OC and will let him pick his assistants.
agree, no OC comes in an takes on the entire staff...maybe a serious oL coach like muir with experience, or keeping carthon, beyond that type of stuff, we may see some new staff members
this is where the oc gets to repay debts to those who got him where he is
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
I'd like to keep Muir as O line coach.
I’d rather keep Zorn as QB coach than Mo as designated yeller.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
mo serves his purpose. i dont understand why people dont want these guys yelled at. someone has to
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
I know I sure do.
Though I’m not sure they hear me.
"Be an analyst. Don’t be a douchebag." - Terrell Suggs to Skip Bayless
I think he does it wrong.
He should yell in a motivational way. From what I’ve heard at training camp, he mostly yells in an asshole way. Just my opinion,and of course I only know what goes on in public. But I have yelled and been yelled at a lot, so have a little expertise in the various species of yelling.
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
didnt say he wasnt
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
Until told otherwise
Which means, until the OC gets here and makes a decision.
Hmmmm
Cassel, Palko, phone tap, ageism, candy wrapper…that is all
by Chiefs fan in ST Louis on Jan 30, 2012 5:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not sure if there was anyone better available
But a change needed to be made. The lack of blocking was a repeated problem throughout the year, and came to a fulcrum against Oakland in a bad way. We have three rock-solid specialists, and now the scheming and training for the rest of the ST unit needs to get whipped into shape.
i dont know much about him, but hes instantly an upgrade over hoffman one would hope.
stoked for a new direction with special teams
hope his first task is to convince pioli to pay colquitt the highest of any punter not named lechler
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
nice to hear bernie parmalee keeps his job
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
Wasn't Weis supposed to hire him?
When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick
Not bad
Most important part of this was the firing of who we HAD. Showed recognition of a big problem.
Now make sure Arenas gets some blocking!!!!
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Needed a change...
WAY too many penalties on punt returns….
by AnkenyChiefsFan on Jan 30, 2012 5:22 PM CST reply actions
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