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That's great, draft the guy who got hot in his very last game.

Not to mention spending a first rounder to replace a sixth rounder.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 30, 2012 10:46 AM CST reply actions  

I don't hate the pick

depending on what they do in rounds 2-5

But, this is a weird 1st round, overall… lots of guys that I haven’t seen projected that high

by stagdsp on Jan 30, 2012 10:49 AM CST reply actions  

He does seem to like his WRs, doesn't he?

Maybe he’s Matt Millen in disguise.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 30, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, I count at least four guys I'd bet money won't go in the first round.

Probably more than that, because five WRs seems like way too many to have in the first.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 30, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

I do

If we’re staying at #11/12 we aren’t going to take a second rate OT. Reiff maybe, but if he’s not there we’d go DeCastro or another position group.

Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things

by jmcgoblue on Jan 30, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw 2 interesting things

1) He had DeCastro falling to us
2)He didn’t have us taking him

"Whenever I walk, people try to hand me out flyers. And when someone tries to hand me out a flyer, it’s kinda like they’re saying, ‘Here—you throw this away.’"
-Mitch Hedberg

by DanielH123 on Jan 30, 2012 10:54 AM CST reply actions  

Especially given who they actually mock to us

Let’s see 10 YR best at his position by far player vs. inconsistent lineman. Hmmm, I wonder which way a smart GM would actually go on that one?

by Wait and See on Jan 30, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I actually like

and could live with this draft. Would be an interesting one to save and look back on come draft time, I could see a lot of these players going to those teams

#82 - Pay The Man & Play The Man

by KansasCityShuffle on Jan 30, 2012 11:00 AM CST reply actions  

Nope, rather have DeCastro.

I’m not sold on taking a RT in the top 12. DeCastro could a one-of-a-kind type guard.

Still depends too much on the rest of the offseason and who signs and who re-signs and who walks away.

2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: CB Kirkpatrick/G DeCastro 1st rd, WR Wright/OT Adams or Sanders 2nd rd, QB Foles/ILB Cole 3rd rd, TE M. Williams/RB I. Pead 4th rd, S G. Iloka or DT/NT Hicks 5th rd, RB L. Dunbar or ILB Galippo 6th; FA Signings: NT Poliai or Hill; Resign: Carr, Bowe, Orton, McClain, Gordon, Belcher. Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.

by Falcon58 on Jan 30, 2012 11:02 AM CST reply actions  

This is going to be a loooooong offseason

It’s still January and I’m sick of hearing about drafting a guard.

I was sick of the Eric Berry hype 2 years ago but at least he was a dynamic playmaker and the unanimous most talented player in the draft. The DeCastro hype is rediculous. He’s a guard. That’s what rounds 3-7 are for.

by craig in calgary on Jan 30, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

What would you think about trading down if we can't get RG3?

I’m starting to think that’s most likely what we’d do. Honestly, I’d ten times rather trade down and get ammo for next year than pick anybody at 11 or 12 this year.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 30, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

That's where I am.

1) Trade up, get a QB
2) Trade down to bottom of 1st, draft who the hell ever, and get an additional 2nd round pick, and draft Foles perhaps.

by craig in calgary on Jan 30, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah, I'm with you

but… IF they stay put, or if he’s still available… I do like DeCastro :)

by stagdsp on Jan 30, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

We're high enough up, I think we might even be able to get a first next year if we trade down far enough.

And another second next year, too, for our second this year. Bottom of the first and bottom of the second would be good places to get a RT and a guard.

Might be overly optimistic, but Pioli’s gotta earn his paycheck somehow.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 30, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

There has to be someone sitting there that someone wants to have a market though

It wouldn’t work in this scenario, I was hoping that the Alabama RB would be sitting there at 11/12 and a team who feels they are a RB away, come up and get him. I can’t see anyone on the board in this scenario worth going up to get. Then again, after the combine (aka hype machine) there will be undoubtedly someone who jumps out of the gym and goes from a 3rd round propspect to a top 10 pick.

by craig in calgary on Jan 30, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Cincy's a possibility for your scenario

Holding two 1st rounders, they’ve got a whole lotta room to work with too.

"Why are all these people here? There are too many people on this earth. We need a new plague…"
-Dwight Schrute

by severn58 on Jan 30, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Kirkpatrick and Kuechly might be those kind of guys

Anybody at 16 and later that wants Kuechly would definitely have to get past the Eagles for a shot. Just playing devil’s advocate here.

by mushin on Jan 30, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, the #12 is worth 1200 points, and the #31 is worth 600.

NE could use a pass rusher and a DE, usually get those near the top of the draft. Hell, they once moved up for an ILB.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 30, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

You mean Mayo?

I thought they actually moved back for him.

Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things

by jmcgoblue on Jan 30, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

You're right, they moved back from #7.

I’m glad you mentioned that and made me look it up, because that trade is really interesting to look back on considering our situation right now. In 2007, the Pats traded their low first rounder (#28) to the 49ers for the Niners’ fourth rounder and a future first – which turned into a #7 overall. So, I guess you could say the Pats traded up, in a way, across seasons.

That’s pretty interesting to me because I think we should trade one or two of our high picks for future considerations this year, barring some miracle trade up for RG3. It’d be awesome if we could do something like a #28 for a #7 and a fourth rounder. Wow, what a scam that turned out to be! But it did work out for everybody since the Niners got a damned good linemen out of the deal.

So….that year, the comp for swapping current first for future first was a current fourth…..I wonder if we could get a current third or even a second since our first rounder is up in the top 15?

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When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 30, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

yep

unless there’s someone sitting there who’s far & away better than anyone else. I like a lot of the 2nd round talent this year, my best case would be trading back multiple times in the 1st & ending up with a late first & two additional 2nd rounders.

Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things

by jmcgoblue on Jan 30, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Unless we can get RG3 :)

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 30, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Other than the QB spot

we need help on the oline pretty bad and Decastro is the best guard, which we need, to come along in a while so I would take him.

Like with Berry, safeties don’t go in the top 5, but he was a can’t miss just like Decastro is a can’t miss.

Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
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by KingChief on Jan 30, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I like the Wisconsin guys, too. Zeitler and Konz.

We could conceivably trade DeCastro for both those guys.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 30, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Wilson's fault.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 30, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Adams can be had in the 2nd

Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006

by KingChief on Jan 30, 2012 11:04 AM CST reply actions  

Maybe, but probably not at the 11/12 pick in the second round.

That said, I’m not sure I’d want him anyway.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 30, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Weird draft

Rams trade back to take Trent Richardson? They need WR’s and offensive linemen.

Only 2 1st rd QB’s…..I doubt that.

Tannehill, Cousins, and Foles could go in 1st if a team falls in love with them. Happens every year.

How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn

by Matt_Grbac on Jan 30, 2012 11:05 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Eh I don't think Cousins can rise that far

I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 30, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

This is the worst mock I've seen in a while.

The Rams needs Kalil or Blackmon, not an RB who isn’t even an elite prospect and is made by his O-line. And the Browns need a QB, no matter the cost.
And MIKE ADAMS?! Really!? Over DeCastro? Terrible.

by NigerianNightmare on Jan 30, 2012 11:17 AM CST reply actions  

yep

this is the key quote

DeCastro is by far the best prospect still on the board.

by stagdsp on Jan 30, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Looks more realistic.

I think he’s got Orson Charles too high and Ingram too low. And, I’m just not an Osemele fan.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 30, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Would KC picking up Kirkpatrick at 11/12 if they can't move around make sense?

He does have the whole mary jane bust, but he’s still the 2nd best CB in the draft. It would also give them leverage with Carr.

by mushin on Jan 30, 2012 11:23 AM CST reply actions  

Rather get a CB than a RT.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 30, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Would rather have a QB. But I would be good with a RT or G.

CB seems like a luxury pick with cause. I wouldn’t hate it though.

by mushin on Jan 30, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

People do see Kirk as a S/CB so maybe its not too far fetched

I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 30, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

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