Chiefs' Romeo Crennel On Brandon Carr's Future
by Joel Thorman on Jan 3, 2012 1:01 PM CST
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Kansas City Chiefs interim coach Romeo Crennel was asked about the future of CB Brandon Carr in Monday's season-ending press conference and, unfortunately, I couldn't find any hints on the future of Carr, who is scheduled to be a free agent.
Here's what Crennel said when asked about Carr (via KCChiefs.com):
"Well like I told you, every year there are a list of guys who are free agents and the business of football in the NFL and free agency business starts, I think the team will get together and determine free agents that are on the list and prioritize those guys and try to go after them. Just like every other team in the NFL, they are looking at the potential free agents and prioritizing those guys and determining who they may want to go after so then we'll have to see how it plays out. But Brandon has had a nice year for us."
Crennel is a defensive guy. He probably wants all the defensive guys he can get. And, as Crennel said, Carr did have a nice year. He's been one of the better values in the NFL since he was a 2008 fifth round pick. He was continually near the top in the league's performance-based pay (when it existed) and hasn't missed a start since he came into the league. If the Chiefs like to reward players who do things the right way and set the right tone for the rest of the team, then paying Carr is a no-brainer.
We'll get into Carr's future a lot more as the offseason goes on but he's a player I think the Chiefs absolutely have to bring back.
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I say pay the man
And put an incentive that he gets $1000 for every INT of an AFCW QB. $5000 if its Tebow.
Jamaal Charles is here to kick ass and chew bubble gum; and he's all outta bubble gum.
by His Royal Greatness on Jan 3, 2012 1:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions
$1000?
Wow, how could he possibly turn that down?
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
by Tarkus on Jan 3, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
And when he decides to flash the red socks he loses it.
PS those socks are dope. Should be a permanent uniform change.
Ron Paul 2012
by EricBerryYoYouScary on Jan 3, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I loved those socks.
And it seemed like the guys that were wearing them all had great games.
I completely agree with this.
They should be a permanent uniform change. A very simple change that makes the uniform look less dated.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
Girl's stockings?
What makes them girl’s stockings? I don’t see a garter belt anywhere.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
The garter belt is under the thigh pads.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
If he gets 300 Int next year he can make the league minimum.
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by saskwatch on Jan 3, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I will be very sad and disappointed if he isn't in a Chiefs uniform for the next 5 years
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Man that was a hell of a draft
If I’m not mistaken, and this is all off the top of my head, we got Albert, Dorsey, Charles, Carr, AND Flowers in that one didnt we?
Yeah, also whiffed on quite a few picks.
But that was a good haul overall. Two very solid starting corners, a star tailback, a solid left tackle and a solid end/tackle. It would be nice to string together a couple of those as opposed to the classic first rounder and a bunch of bums type drafts they had had before that.
Dorsey
Did not play like an above average player this year.
Other than that I completely agree.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
He did have a great game against Denver though
And he was regarded as the consensus number one pick that year. I was hoping that he would ndominate
by paulredfish on Jan 3, 2012 2:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He's regressed for much of the year
I’m curious if he’s been hurt.
Teams were running at him and Hali with a great deal of success.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Everybody whiffs on a few picks in every draft.
And our 08 whiffs were almost exclusively in the later rounds. The fact that Mike Merritt and Will Franklin didn’t pan out is not at all an indictment of the 08 class.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
All this for a little weed?
Tebow might know Jesus, but Bill Muir is old enough to have actually babysat him in the manger.
Yes we did.
We also got Barry Richardson in that draft. Granted, he’s no where near as good as those other guys, but still a solid value in the 6th round.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
True
I found it funny that they wrote this:
Pick Analysis:He’s a huge guy who runs well and has talent, but it has been said he lacks passion for the game. If a coach can motivate him and get him excited about playing football, he may well wind up being a find at the guard position
It's funny looking at all these evaluations actually.
Here’s Jamaal Charles:
Pick Analysis:The Chiefs take a guy that is likely the best player on their board right now in Charles. He likely fell to the third round due to his lack of strength, but when it comes to speed, he’s a break-away back. His playmaking ability makes him a potential situational player that can also catch the ball.
Situational, indeed…
Unless his demands are unreasonable, he should definitely be brought back.
He’s not a top-shelf corner, but he’s very solid. The defense clearly benefited from him and Flowers being able to play straight man on the outside most of the time late in the season. With him, the corner group needs no additions. Without him, they’d need another starter.
I get that, between Flower's big payday and Berry's #5 overall contract, giving Carr a deal on par with what he would likely get to sign with a new team would mean sinking a lot of money into the secondary.
But it’s not like we’re short on cap space at the moment and, damnit, a Flowers, Carr, Berry, and Lewis secondary would arguably be the best in the league next year.
In this era of dominant quarterbacks and shattered passing records, it would easily be worth it to lock-in the Chiefs secondary as an elite unit for years to come.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
by MtHammer on Jan 3, 2012 1:08 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I won't be mad if he goes somewhere else as long as we spend ALL the money we have this year
If Pioli decides he doesn’t want to invest that much money in just our secondary, so be it, but he better be investing all that money in other areas of our team or I’m gonna be pissed.
Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.
by joplin chiefs fan on Jan 3, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
Don't we have to spend it anyways?
Ron Paul 2012
by EricBerryYoYouScary on Jan 3, 2012 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
I believe that rule doesn't take effect until after next season
there’s a lesser percentage of the cap that teams have to spend this year to allow them to gradually ramp up spending.
(Disclaimer: I’m no expert on the CBA. I might be regurgitating misinformation lol)
Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.
by joplin chiefs fan on Jan 3, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
I don't get that logic
The NFL is such a pass-heavy league right now, why not sink a ton of money into the secondary? If Berry comes back and plays like he can, and we keep Carr….best secondary in the league…BY A MILE
We're the same team as last year, except incredibly better, and with new players.
You hit the nail on the head. We don't need to have the best secondary in the leage BY A MILE
With Flowers and Berry we are already going to have one of the best.
Great secondary+improved O-line > Best secondary+same crummy O-line
Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.
by joplin chiefs fan on Jan 3, 2012 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
Think of it like this
If we lose Carr and we have someone who can’t cut it on the side, all of a sudden Flowers becomes far less important because people will just pick on the other guy. Then we have to roll coverage and Berry/Lewis can’t roam like a center fielder. It hurts everyone.
We're the same team as last year, except incredibly better, and with new players.
No disagreement here
With the cap space we have, I really hope we can have our cake and eat it too.
I also know, though, that there are a lot of teams with secondaries in DESPERATE need of upgrades who may offer Carr more than we’re willing to offer (and more than he’s worth) since ours is prety solid.
Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.
by joplin chiefs fan on Jan 3, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Our pass defense was in the top 10 this year
And we played the likes of Brady , Rodgers , rivers , and other pass happy qbs . All this without berry . Carr is a pretty big part of the success and I would love to have him back to help make our defense top 5 next year .
by chiefsman! on Jan 3, 2012 1:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Only thing I can think of
Is the chiefs trying to pick up a good cheap CB in the draft with the help of the new rookie wage scale . Since berry and flowers are already making pretty big money
by chiefsman! on Jan 3, 2012 1:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yep, finished 6th overall.
We’ve got to re-sign Carr. With both Brandons and a Lewis-Berry (hopefully 100%, same old self, ultimate bad-ass Pro Bowl form) tandem at safety, our defense can be truly elite. Especially with a maturing Javier Arenas at nickle and a one-year improved Justin Houston on the edge. Could be scary!
"Toby has been cruising for a bruising for years, and I am now his cruise director. And my name, is Captain Bruising."
by bobby sippio! on Jan 3, 2012 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
It definitely helps inflate that stat when you get to play Tim Tebow twice.
Tebow might know Jesus, but Bill Muir is old enough to have actually babysat him in the manger.
Screw Tebow
He’s not even the best evangelical QB ever. Kurt Warner will save your soul AND throw TD passes.
Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.
by joplin chiefs fan on Jan 3, 2012 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 11 recs
^ THIS ^
is the TRUTH!
Todd Haley - Crennel just prove to the world that you're a f***ing Joke! Matt Cassel - Orton showed with 3 weeks of practice you can beat the world champions. #7 your legacy is...you don't have one, you're a backup all along. Should never have been a starter in the NFL.
by 58 was my friend on Jan 3, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
Nice
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
This needs greened.
Gotta love Kurt Warner.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
Warnering>>>>>>>>Tebowing
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by saskwatch on Jan 3, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Go Kurt!
Kicking it with the hot sauce!
You Play to Win the game!!!
by Wichita Chief on Jan 3, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
But remember we had around 5 or 6 blowouts
Where the team was mostly running the football in 2nd half. Buffalo, Detroit, Miami, New York, New England, those were all blowouts and they didn’t pass for more than 3 quarters because our secondary had already been burnt for 4 touchdowns.
by JC25FoMVP on Jan 3, 2012 3:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's called being gassed on Defense when your offense is SHIT.
"...and we're gonna be ready for them"!
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck".
If they are really wanting to develop talent to win then they need to keep that talent
I can’t take a second franchise in KC that lets all their good players go (looking at you Royals).
Bowe and Carr both need to be here next year.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
Carr has been tested more than Flowers this year and has outperformed him
Which is weird to me because there was a point last year where Flowers was an absolute monster and Carr was getting torn apart play after play. I wonder what happened.
Pretty sure we don't have anyone like that on the roster right now
Got paid, became lazy. That’s my biggest fear with Dwayne Bowe.
Bowe is easy
Franchise him, and hang him with good pay for a year.
will keep him performing
by Bigcherokeechief on Jan 3, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure that's true
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
I’m sure it’s not.
"Hater" is a term used by weak-minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
This would be the, "you really need to see the games live to know this" situation, right?
I’ve heard from you and several others that when you get a chance to watch the whole field, you see that Carr gets more safety help and is leaving guys open with more consistency than Flowers.
Sound about right?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Definitely not true!
The safety consistently rolls to Carrs side in every game. If you watch the SD game Lewis literally plays on Carrs side the whole game with Flowers left by himself against Vjax. Flowers is the stud and that’s why he got paid. That being said I hope we resign Carr.
If Carr does end up leaving
I would like to see them draft Brandon Boykin
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
This
“IF” the Chiefs like to award players who do things the right way and set the right tone for the rest of the team, then paying Carr is a no-brainer."
Guy worked his tail off all offseason and it showed. Flint’s finest. Pay him Scott. It may be the only thing you do right this offseason if the Cassel abortion is still under center next year.
Something about Carr delivering a solid performance without a lot of hoopla.
Tebow might know Jesus, but Bill Muir is old enough to have actually babysat him in the manger.
He can't build him up too much.
That would only give Carr even more leverage in negotiations.
Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!
Bring Back Carr but burn the socks
Brandon Carr should be signed to a long term deal, KC needs the defenders they have now and Carr is a good one. The socks on the other hand are ugly, ugly, ugly, and should be banned.
by Texarkana Chief Fan on Jan 3, 2012 1:40 PM CST reply actions
Disagree. Love the all red socks. Should be a team-wide change.
Striped tube socks went out of style in the 80’s. It’s been 30 years. Time to give up the ghost.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, McClain, Bailey, Bowe, Orton (in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
Dude is about to get straight paid
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Yeah...and hopefully by us.
That’s the thing about Free Agency. There are going to be other teams that would like to have Carr, too.
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
please pay carr, i really really dont want to lose him
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
Carr is a #1 on most teams ...
and there are A LOT of teams that need proven quality corners.
they should lock that secondary up together.
Speaking of franchise tag if it comes to it( I hope it doesn’t) ….Bowe<Carr
Sorry but that is just so wrong
Dwayne Bowe has put the offense on his back all season and still performed at a pro bowl level. Brandon Carr has been beaten on a big play nearly every game and we would’ve lost against Denver had Tebow actually thrown to him. Carr got burnt deep on multiple occasions.
by JC25FoMVP on Jan 3, 2012 2:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And Bowe has several critical drops.
WR’s are easier to find than quality corners.
by BinSC on Jan 3, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Several? I count one all season that was worth anything.
The only drop he had was vs Oakland. And get this….hes not the first great WR to drop a touchdown D:. If one drop makes you neglect the fact he’s been a top 10 WR at worst in the league over the past 5 years and he’s never had great QB play, then i don’t know what to tell you.
Take a closer look at Bowe's production if you are looking 5 years.
Top 10 by numbers only…maybe so. What you will find is that most of his producation is against inferior teams that gave up big numbers to lots of teams. Bowe disappears in big games and yes, he has had several drops that have been in big situations. First downs and TD’s. You should be able to count on your top WR to get the big catches. In totality, he has been an average – above average reciever, not elite. Doesn’t matter who is throwing to you if you drop it.You are too caught up in last year’s numbers against a very weak schedule. Against the couple of better teams we played, he might as well have stayed home.
Not that big of a fan of Carr
I think he is a good corner. But I dont think we would have much trouble finding a replacement
Side note: There were plenty of times Decker had Carr beat but Tebow never looked his way
I think Thomas Jones would have better success in Bodybuilder competitions than he is havin right now in the NFL!
Excellent point on that second part
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Could say that about most corners.
That is why pressure on the QB is so important. Can’t give them time for WR’s to get open. We didn’t put much pressure on Tebow, just focused on containing his running. It allowed his WR’s to get open, but his abilities kept him from finding/completing to them.
Maybe i'm just spoiled by the play of Flowers
I think Thomas Jones would have better success in Bodybuilder competitions than he is havin right now in the NFL!
by LookListenLearn on Jan 4, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
The thing I love most about Brandon Carr
Though I do love his play making ability, is the fact that he’s made Kansas City his home. He’s not a “snowbird” in the off season like a lot of players. He spends his time here.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 3, 2012 2:29 PM CST reply actions
The Vikings need a lot of help in the secondary
and I can see them throwing tons of money at him
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
theres actually ALOT of teams that need help
I think DBs will be the hot commodity this year
I know how much KC fans love him...
But Crennel knows his position can be upgraded. Through FA or the draft, and I think he’ll look at Terrelle Thomas or maybe even Cortland Finnegan before resigning Carr.
by JC25FoMVP on Jan 3, 2012 2:57 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Finnegan
would be nice as long as he can keep his cool on the field. We don’t need any unnecessary penalties on defense.
Max: Two days ago, I saw a vehicle that would haul that tanker. You want to get out of here? You talk to me.
Finnegan <<<<<<<< Carr by a long, long, LONG shot
It’s not a matter of talent or level of play IMO. He’s a very solid player. The issue is he may want top dollar, and he’s not worth the amount of money that has been shelled out to top corners (or even Routt)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Sign Carr now
We cant screw around with our CB’s, he deserves to be resigned.
Let Carr go if he wants.
Having a long-term starter go in free agency will help with a supplemental draft pick!
But more seriously, I like Carr, and if he wants to stay, then sign him. However, I look at where we are drafting:
#11/#12. To me, that isn’t where you pick up a Right Tackle. (Can be had late 1st Round, or 2nd round or even later) It isn’t where you pick up a franchise type QB like Luck or RGIII. At that point, what is the biggest value in about that position? To me, the best value in that draft position would be a linebacker or one of the Top 2 corners in the draft.
With Berry back, and having safety help, it would allow the rookie to learn in the midst of an already really good to great secondary while spending either less money than Carr, or very similar money to Carr for a possible long-term upgrade. (Though maybe not a 2012 upgrade)
So again, if Carr wants to come back for a good reasonable price, then do so and draft a linebacker to fill the last spot with Hali, Johnson and Houston. If Carr wants to be paid Top 10 money, then let him be on his merry way.
Howdy Clark Kent !
nice of you to add in here. I appreciate your thoughts on Carr but I think most fans feel they need to point out that the Cheaps (err Chiefs,. sorry) were at the bottom of the NFL payroll total this year (Again) and gosh darnit, it sure makes us sore when we’re paying monster tickets and parking prices to watch a team get crushed because it has zero depth. And ehh,there is this huge talent pool called Free – Agency but, i don’t know, you don’t really use it? I guess it’s just confusing to some of us, that’s all.
by tenacious rdc on Jan 3, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
It's confusing to me how people are still harping on Clark being cheap
When he spends big money on a GM, then proceeds to allow that GM to sign multiple large contracts…
Seriously, this crap is ridiculous. We just locked up Hali and Flowers for huge contracts, but he’s still the cheapest owner ever? Bull.
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by MNchiefsfan on Jan 4, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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