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Kansas City Chiefs Could Have Several Spots Open On Coaching Staff

The Kansas City Chiefs could enter the 2012 season with multiple coaching spots to fill if things fall the way we think they will. We think Romeo Crennel will get the head coaching job and, according to reports, we think Bill Muir will "likely" retire.

So if that scenario plays out then the Chiefs could have multiple coaching spots to fill, along with whatever other natural attrition comes up.

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First, it would be a defensive coordinator. Crennel was the team's defensive coordinator under Todd Haley and continued in that role when he took over as interim coach. He was asked at Monday's season-ending press conference if he would hire a defensive coordinator if he were given the full-time job and he didn't give a clear answer. Basically, he would evaluate his options.

Second, the Chiefs could need a new offensive coordinator. Reports dating back several weeks have indicated the Chiefs will be looking for offensive coordinators but Muir is stilli officially in that position. That said, if Muir does retire, as it's been suggested, then the Chiefs will be looking for a new offensive coorinator.

Third, the Chiefs could need a new offensive line coach if Muir retires. He held both positions and Pat Perles helped him out on the offensive line.

Fourth, if Crennel is named head coach, he could choose to make other coaching changes. We just don't know what those are yet.

So the Chiefs very well could be busy this year in the coaching department. I suspect they've already got a good idea of what's going to happen.

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Also, Gibbs and/or Thomas could leave for a promotion.

Either one could be seen as a DC candidate for another team.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 11:13 AM CST reply actions  

or in line for promotion here ...

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 3, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm hoping this

I’d like to see Thomas as our DC, he’s done a heck of a job with our secondary.

by Spiderwomn69 on Jan 3, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Gibbs would be in line to take over.

Thomas has been a secondary coach for a very long time, which says something about his perceived ability to take on more responsibility. Moving up Gibbs would also keep continuity in the defense.

by BinSC on Jan 3, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

He's only been a dedicated DB coach since he came to KC. His resume per Wikipedia:
* Central Missouri State (1979-1980)
* St. Louis Cardinals (1981-1985)
(Assistant coach)
* Washington Redskins (1986-1994)
(WR and DB coach)
* Philadelphia Eagles (1995-1998)
(Defensive coordinator)
* Green Bay Packers (1999)
(Defensive coordinator)
* Minnesota Vikings (2000-2001)
(Defensive coordinator)
* Atlanta Falcons (2002-2009)
(Assistant Head Coach and DB Coach)
* Atlanta Falcons (2007)
(Interim Head Coach)
* Kansas City Chiefs (2010-present)
(Defensive Backs coach)

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

saved me some time B

He would be a fine candidate to take over the D, he might be ready for another run at it.

Yep, then we could hire Herm to Coach the DB’s, Haley to Coach the WR’s and Vermeil to be the OC… okay not really.

However, Emmitt as DC would suffice, but we would have to replace him. It’s hard to replace a legend.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
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by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 3, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Emmitt as assistant head coach, Gibbs as DC,

Cowher as LBs coach, Dungy as DBs coach. Get the old team back together. The Kansas City Way.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Carl Peterson

Water boy during the draft?

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 3, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Ticket taker.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Well shit, if we're getting the band back together

Marty for DC, Gunther for LB coach, Green for QB. Problems solved.

TOUCHDOWN! KAN-SAH-CITY!!!

by TheScootness on Jan 3, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow, nice info

Thanks

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by MNchiefsfan on Jan 3, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't thank me,

thank Sue Gardner.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Heck of a lady

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by MNchiefsfan on Jan 3, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

WHY WHY WHY would we want a new DC

You might as well take a fat sh1t on the defense and trade away our playmakers

by CorFueled on Jan 3, 2012 11:19 AM CST reply actions  

Because if rac is not a HC here, he will be a HC somewhere else next year. So, no matter what, chiefs need a new DC next year

by Okie Red on Jan 3, 2012 11:35 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I think he's saying that RAC should do DC duties along with HC

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by MNchiefsfan on Jan 3, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

You got that from him talking about shitting on the defense...

Man law school makes you really perceptive.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 3, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I try

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by MNchiefsfan on Jan 3, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

The ONLY way I'll accept Crennel as Head Coach is if he is our acting DC too.

If RAC being HC means we need a new DC then I am 100% against RAC as head coach

by CorFueled on Jan 3, 2012 11:20 AM CST reply actions  

wow, good thing you have this inside information that nobody else on the planet knows!

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by upamtn on Jan 3, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Note the word "if"

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by MNchiefsfan on Jan 3, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Hopefully we'd get a young guy that Romeo could tutor.

If he stays in the HC spot, I hope the Hoopla keeps calling plays. Just needs a young grasshopper to do the in-week grunt work.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I would hate to keep RAC as DC if he becomes HC

Frankly, there just aren’t many people that do well as both HC and as a Coordinator. Fact is though that no matter who he hires as DC the guy will be running the defense the way RAC wants it. It’s not like he would hire a chump and just let the guy ruin the defense.

Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.

by Fozzyboyd on Jan 3, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Seems like most of the recent Super Bowl champs

have had head coaches doing double-duty on one side of the ball. Belichick, Payton, McCarthy…

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 3, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Fine, don’t accept it and live in a fantasy world

by Okie Red on Jan 3, 2012 11:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

This

I was about to type this. ST has really under performed and the last 3 games cost us some huge plays. The second blocked FG against the Raiders should have sent our ST coach packing.

by Spiderwomn69 on Jan 3, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

+1000

Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.

by KingChief on Jan 3, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I remember Hoffman being touted as a ST "guru."

Was he really a supposed to be a special teams guru, or a kicking guru?

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Kicking guru

Which he’s done a fantastic job. I would say he’s done a good job with our coverage units as well. The problem is the constant errors by his players and the fact that potentially one of the most dynamic returners in the league is being wasted.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Jan 3, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

The fact that Arenas finished 3rd in punt returns and never took any to the house shows you how good he can be.

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by saskwatch on Jan 3, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah.

He almost always has someone in his face. It’s amazing he’s done as well as he has.

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 3, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes. We need to keep Hoffman as the kicking guru at the very least

But other than that gaffe I think he’s done well overall.

TOUCHDOWN! KAN-SAH-CITY!!!

by TheScootness on Jan 3, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

HIV

We are often on different pages, but I’m with you on this one! How Steve Hoffman remains the SP Team coach is a complete mystery. Please FIRE this guy! SOON!

by Chief1 on Jan 3, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

what about

Zorn? surely there’s room to promote him somewhere?

by kaorder1 on Jan 3, 2012 11:26 AM CST reply actions  

yeah, he's done such a GREAT job with Cassel and Palko this year!

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by upamtn on Jan 3, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

oh, no talent you say? true dat! so that means Zorn isn't at fault ... hmmmmm

then who is it responsible for that lack of talent? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

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by upamtn on Jan 3, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

how

many Brady’s, Mannings, Brees and rapist Ben’s are out there?

by kaorder1 on Jan 3, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Watch the news

There are plenty of rapist Ben’s out there…

Meh...
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by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 3, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

That can be put on the GMs shoulders

Back-up caliber players can’t suddenly become elite over a shortened offseason.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 3, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Give him an off-season and full camp first.

Kind of hard to evaluate his effectiveness yet. QB coach is most valuable during the off-season when more teaching is done and not just game prep.

by BinSC on Jan 3, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not necessarily opposed to Zorn.

But let’s not forget that he went straight from QB coach to HC. He was never a coordinator. I’m not sure how he would do in that capacity.

by polodude017 on Jan 3, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

right,

b/c McDaniels will get so much out of the Offense after his tour of duty with the Donks & Lambs…..

by kaorder1 on Jan 3, 2012 11:29 AM CST reply actions  

Promote

Zorn to OC
Thomas to DC
Sirianni to QB coach

Then hire outside for Oline coach, DB coach.

Crennel fired Carthon as OC in Cleveland…I hope he does it again here….I’m not a Mo fan.

I also hope we get a different WR coach. Anderson has not help develop any WR.

How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn

by Matt_Grbac on Jan 3, 2012 11:33 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I hear some guy named Haley is free and is good with wr’s, maybe we could get him

by Okie Red on Jan 3, 2012 11:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Why do you not like Carthon?

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 3, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Well

For starters he has been fired every he has been.

Second I just didn’t think he did a good job with RB development.

Third he is a Haley guy….he smells of Haley and I want him gone.

How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn

by Matt_Grbac on Jan 3, 2012 11:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He didn't get fired from AZ

??

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 3, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Plus

He was an OC for Crennel at one point, more like a Parcells guy.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 3, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Parcell tree

Haley guy…

How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn

by Matt_Grbac on Jan 3, 2012 12:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He's a Parcells guy first and foremost

Played for him with the Giants

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 3, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok

He WAS a Parcells guy. Now he is a Haley guy. He last worked for Haley and was his Assistant Head Coach. He deserves to hit the road.

How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn

by Matt_Grbac on Jan 3, 2012 12:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Pretty much all coaches get fired everywhere they've been.

Charles has done pretty well under him. Jones? Meh. Battle did a good job for a #3 back.

Don’t really care either way if he’s a Haley guy.

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 3, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

How about

Priest Holmes as RB coach
Eddie Kennison WR coach

How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn

by Matt_Grbac on Jan 3, 2012 12:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Meh.

Great players don’t necessarily make great coaches. Have either of those guys even coached elsewhere? Do they even want to?

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 3, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Johnnie Morton as our new Worm Coach?

Or maybe our new Getting Ripped Coach?

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Jan 3, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Disagree with all the in-house promotions

This team was not very good this year…yet we want to keep the same crap around why?

I say hire outside for OC; Norv Turner. I wouldn’t have much beef with Gibbs as DC, but still I’d prefer a different HC and RAC stay on in DC capacity.

by SCKSChief on Jan 3, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

HIV to PR director.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

They would have to pay him in cash though

Because I doubt he would accept a cheque signed by Hunt. Unless it was one of those huge random house lottery cheques.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Jan 3, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Funk would blast through the Arrowhead speakers.

Would everyone have chained square-rims, like Romeo wears for reading glasses when he looks at the call sheet?

Fuck it, I’m for this. GB just got a rec outta me.

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by go_saleaumua on Jan 4, 2012 6:54 AM CST up reply actions  

What I think will happen

Gibbs promoted to DC, I remember Crennel crediting him with helping with the gameplan against the Pack, so it sounds like he’s in Crennels ear. Young guy that failed at DC previously, but give Crennel the reigns to playcalling and have Gibbs in an apprentice role.

Next Zorn, although some might not like this you can clearly see on the sidelines that he’s got a play chart and has been apart of offensive decisions since he got here. Crennel also credited him with gameplanning, and given the reigns to the O who knows could be a success. Better than the committee approach we’ve had going.

If not Zorn I want Tom Clements from GB I think he’s got a bright future.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 3, 2012 11:38 AM CST reply actions  

I like GIbbs as DC too.

And he probably deserves it if you’re promoting anyone from our team. I don’t mind Zorn but I’m a big Clements fan. If Tom does come though he can leave Flynn in Green Bay.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Jan 3, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I consider this the most realistic option. The DC should be a promotion and OC should be someone who will take over HC in a few years.

"Hater" is a term used by weak-minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.

by JComp11 on Jan 3, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

If that scenario plays out then I'd much rather the OC be Clements then Zorn.

Zorny was a badddddddddd HC.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Jan 3, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Bad HC but

The redskins were a pretty turrible situation too

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 3, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

It was definitely a gong show.

I liked the nice touch of removing playcalling away from Zorn to a guy that Zorn didn’t even hire to his staff who had been with the team less then a month.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Jan 3, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol yeah not much to work with

I honestly felt bad for him when he was in Washington, he seemed miserable in the sidelines

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 3, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

When you look at improvements made by every single one of our starting LB's over the last few years

And Houston’s rapid improvement as the year went on, it seems very logical to give the job to Gibbs.

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by MNchiefsfan on Jan 3, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

What about Thomas?

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Old

He doesn’t have many years left, pretty sure he’s older than Crennel

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 3, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Born 1943. Gibbs was born in 1952.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

So 10 years difference

Makes Gibbs even more appealing

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 3, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess 10 years would seem like a lot when it's half your life :)

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

But it is true that Thomas is nearing traditional retirement age.

I wonder if he realizes that.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he does and I think he's happy where he's at

He did go the HOF as a Chief, and might just retire as one.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 3, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude seems to be in great shape

He could easily go another ten years.

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by MNchiefsfan on Jan 3, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

He's a possibility as well

But I saw more improvement from our LBs than our CBs over their tenure. Plus, Gibbs has some experience and is younger.

I’d be fine with either though.

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by MNchiefsfan on Jan 3, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

DC or HC Romeo HAS to stay

Could you imagine our offseason if we gotta look for an OC,DC,HC,ST<——DAMN

by KCinIL on Jan 3, 2012 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

why?

plenty of people got fired on monday….time to steal a few?

or we could go 49ers and hire college coaches

by Chiefshero on Jan 3, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Come on

For every Harbaugh is 5 Saban/Spurriers. Just cuz they’re young guys doesn’t mean they’re gonna automatically groom into a great coach(cough cough, Todd, cough cough)

by KCinIL on Jan 3, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

plenty of people got fired on monday….time to steal a few?

Except that there’s usually a pretty good reason why those folks got fired and, generally, that reason is epic failure.

by JacinB on Jan 3, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

RAC was fired and we pick him up

I think he’s doing a good job. But that’s just me

by Chiefshero on Jan 3, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Meh.

By that logic, Clancy Pendergast also got fired. We oughta bring him back.

Or, heck, Todd Haley got fired. He’s going to be another Marv Levy, where as soon as he’s gone from the Chiefs, he finds great success. Heck, let’s just bring him back on so that that great success can be found here.

There’s no one on the list of people who were fired that immediately jump out to me as people who ought to immediately be brought on to improve our team. Unless, there’s someone out there that you’re seeing that no one else is.

by JacinB on Jan 3, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

For one thing, your timeline is off.

Romeo was fired as Head Coach, took several years away, and then came back to a lower level position at which he’d previously excelled.

So, using Romeo as an example, you ought to only be looking for our coordinators from the list of people who were fired from head coaching positions after the 2009 season that they initially got after having previously lead teams to multiple Super Bowl victories (and, you know, ideally, have had a hip replaced).

Should be a short list, I’d imagine. Let us know what you come up with.

by JacinB on Jan 3, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Let me be a bit more specific

So, using Romeo as an example, you ought to only be looking for our coordinators from the list of people who were fired from head coaching positions after the 2009 season that they initially got after having previously lead teams to multiple Super Bowl victories at whichever coordinator spot you’re looking to fill (and, you know, ideally, have had a hip replaced).

It was implied, but I wanted to make sure we were bothclear in what you were looking for.

by JacinB on Jan 3, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Still there are good positional coaches out there...

We need a list of quality special teams guys.

Even if we don’t can Hoffman, they need some new blood to design blocking patterns and actually teach the players the fundamentals of blocking on returns.

Not to mention blocking guys named Dick.

Meh...
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@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 3, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Im half expecting the entire Cowboys staff to get blown up.

They have a good ST coach.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Jan 3, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Too bad they don't fire Lovie Smith in Chicago

It would be nice to get their guy to work with Arenas and McCluster.

I don’t know why they hold on to Lovie/

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 3, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

He is the Norv Turner of the NFC

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 3, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

He is an elite coach because he took them to a SB

Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.

by KingChief on Jan 3, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

He is elite?

Okay… If getting to the Super Bowl and winning made you elite then wouldn’t Brian Billick would have a job?

if going and losing made you elite, then why isn’t Jim Fassel coaching?

He has done some good things for the bears, but I think they should move on.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 3, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Billick does have a job

And he’s happy doing it I think

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 3, 2012 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Good to know that ChiefWarPaint of Arrowhead Pride fame thinks that Brian Billick is happy.

When he has said he would coach again.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 3, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

That was sarcasm

People say Fisher is elite for taking the Titans to the SB so I just said Lovie is elite for the same reason

Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.

by KingChief on Jan 3, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Awe, sarcasm

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 3, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

You mean like Steve Hoffman

He came from Dallas Cowboys didn’t he?

by Chief1 on Jan 3, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Only a matter of time.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

His dream job is Ohio State.

I don’t see him making a lateral move away from there.

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 3, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

With Mims at HC

Wed be unstoppable

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 3, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice segment on ESPN's First Tebow

of Mangini breaking down the Chiefs’ defense against the Broncos.

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 3, 2012 11:53 AM CST reply actions  

I'm not following you.

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 3, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Funniest ESPN comment of the day:

How the hell is Denver going to advance without the chargers playing this week?

“Give them nothing! But take from them everything!”

by GenericBrand on Jan 2, 2012 7:22 PM PST reply actions

by Chiefshero on Jan 3, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's pretty funny!

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 3, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I saw

Skips still adamant Tambas non facemask call would’ve changed the game. What a douche

by KCinIL on Jan 3, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

What's funny is

If it was reversed you’d nEver hear anything about it

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 3, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Any of about sixteen missed holding calls would have changed the game back the other way, so.....

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Skip has become a caricature of himself.

Which is really saying something, considering what himself is.

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 3, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

A really ugly woman?

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

And he doesn't have a hot blond co-host to keep his ratings up.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

That's his job lol

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 3, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

He loves playing the role of the villain.

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 3, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

And look at all this debate he's created

People love to hate and just mentioning his name gets people riled up, sounds like good ratings to me.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 3, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Let me guess....

We basically played one on one defense across the board except for our weakest spot (safety), and Tebow was not a good enough NFL player to beat NFL players one on one.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

They showed man press.

With a safety playing the middle of the field. DJ contained the outside, and forced a triangle surrounding Tebow as he scrambled back. Meanwhile, all the DBs playing man stuck right with their guys throughout the entire play. He pointed out that other teams have left their man to help contain Tebow, but the Chiefs remained disciplined in their coverage.

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 3, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

That late discipline was the key.

Tebow time is a function of him getting desperate enough to fling passes that he was afraid to throw earlier. He has open (NFL definitions of open) receivers throughout the game, and I think he sees them, he just doesn’t trust himself to get the ball to them until he has no choice.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

Kansas City Chiefs: Undefeated in 2012, baby!

by Tarkus on Jan 3, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Must be absolutely KILLING McD to watch his boy out there on his own :)

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

My crystal ball is more awesome than yours

Here we go with the speculation. Crennel will be our head coach. No, McDaniels will be. No, McDaniels can’t be head coach because Pioli can’t sell it to the fanbase, so he’ll be the OC for a couple years, only to fill the HC vacancy when Crennel retires. Bring in Fischer! No, bring Norv Turner as the OC! I said Zorn should be OC!!!! I CAN YELL LOUDER THAN EVERYONE!!!!!

Let’s all calm down a moment…because I’m about to speculate based on logic. All signs DO point to Crennel being the HC. He’s a Pioli guy (New England/Bill Parcells). The players like him. Most importantly, he’s old…and Pioli will use him as a stopgap in order to get another HC in a couple years. The only way Pioli can survive another coaching change in the future is if the HC in waiting is on the current staff.

What do we know: Pioli hires within his circle. His circle mainly consisting of the Patriots and Bill Parcells. Well – I’ve got two names for you – both previously head coaches. Both at a point in their career where they’d take and OC/DC position in an organization. Both connected to the Patriots and/or Bill Parcells.

OC – Tony Sparano. This was Parcells guy.
DC – Eric Mangini. Patriots.

I’m not saying I like it. I’m saying there’s a high probability. Now – feel free to blast me as you wish. But seriously, my crystal ball is rad.

by camucr on Jan 3, 2012 12:23 PM CST reply actions  

Can't see Mangini working for/with Crennel.

Or most other former Patriots staffers. Actually, I think that’s the main reason Pioli came here instead of Cleveland, because they asked him if he could work with Mangini as his coach.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

This

And I can’t see mangini wanting to run romeos defense regardless of how close they are. Especially since Romeo would likely keep playcalling duties.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Jan 3, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I've heard good things about Sparano, though. But don't know much about him.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

His players sure love him.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Jan 3, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

That's the big stumbling block

Mangini wouldn’t want to run Crennel’s defense. Which flips my prediction on it’s head and lays the groundwork for promotion from within the organization.

My crystal ball is still hungover from New Years.

by camucr on Jan 3, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't like the move for Eric Mangini (his brightest moment was when Tony Soprano mentioned him.)

but after I watched the Chiefs hire back Gunther… any rifts can close.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 3, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 3, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Hilarity

I love me some Belichick.

"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"

by GenericBrand on Jan 3, 2012 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

That's the big stumbling block

Mangini wouldn’t want to run Crennel’s defense. Which flips my prediction on it’s head and lays the groundwork for promotion from within the organization.

My crystal ball is still hungover from New Years.

by camucr on Jan 3, 2012 12:30 PM CST reply actions  

This is Haley's coaching staff right now. Whoever the new HC is they should have the autonomy to hire their own coaches.

Fuck continuity. Hire the best possible coaching staff.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Jan 3, 2012 3:29 PM CST reply actions  

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