Where is Our Offensive Coordinator
by Glassuxx on Jan 29, 2012 10:55 AM CST
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PrintI am becoming increasingly concerned that the Chiefs have yet to hire an Offensive Coordinator. The Dolphins named their New Coach a week ago and have already picked both Coordinators. I have reading and hearing reports that the Chiefs OC job is not a coveted position due to the unpopularity of the Owner and GM and most telling, the general consensus that Chiefs cannot win in Playoffs with Cassel at QB no matter how many weapons he has. I hope somebody out there has some info on what the problem is and if they have heard any names tossed around.
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I dont think its either one of the poll questions.
The thing about picking cordinators is this, its not as easy as adding a name like most of us would like to think. You have to add someone who RAC can get along with, RAC is a great guy so odds are getting along wont be the problem but they like to have people they are somewhat on the same page with.
I think they are doing alot of interviewing and trying to find the right guy odds are with the way cordinators have been coming in and out of here like there is a swinging door I bet they are trying to find someone to stick so there is not such a bad rep on the organization, I wouldnt put to much into it.
just my opinion but I almost gaurantee daboll will be the guy, from what I heard he is a great football mind and great motivator also so im all for it. with rumors of miami hiring a new OC I assume his release from miami comes real soon.
by the great thunderlips on Jan 29, 2012 11:15 AM CST reply actions
Why Not Wait....
Until the Super Bowl is over to interview everyone? I’m guessing Pioli wants a coach from the Patriot Way…. Ferentz could be the man. Ferentz
yeah, that's what concerns me
not so much that it’s Ferentz … but a continuing insistence on that “Patriots Way” mantra
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What is the "patriot way"? Winning?
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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 29, 2012 2:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I thought that was the Packers Way ...
… or the Steelers Way or maybe you like the Yankees?
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So what do you think the "patriot way" is then?
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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 29, 2012 2:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Tom Brady
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 29, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
Superbowl winning, super model marrying, dimple chin having supermen?
That is the “patriot way”???
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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 29, 2012 2:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
you got the Tuck Rule
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Along with the "Brady/Pollard Rule"
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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 29, 2012 2:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We're following the Steelers model.
They’re still searching for an OC too.
"Be an analyst. Don’t be a douchebag." - Terrell Suggs to Skip Bayless
Obviously its because they are unprepared and no one wants to work with a rapist
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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 29, 2012 3:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Chiefs OC
Who needs an OC when #18 from Indy comes to KC
For what, BBQ? His neck is shot.
Not. Happening.
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by go_saleaumua on Jan 29, 2012 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
Can't vote.
All the poll choices assume something negative, just because of your impatience.
"Be an analyst. Don’t be a douchebag." - Terrell Suggs to Skip Bayless
But if the poll wasn't there then this would just be a fanshot...
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 29, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Keep this family friendly!
No touching!
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 29, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
I think I'd
like to see the phins oc come over I think he would be better then zorn
by kcchiefs2782 on Jan 29, 2012 11:49 AM CST via Android app reply actions
The only OC I think we missed out on so far is Arians
Other then that there’s still good candidates out there and the guys who have been hired are pretty meh to me.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
Can't vote,
There are no real choices. Crennel is just trying to get it right. Don’t believe all the negative
None of the above reasons in your poll
I think in the business they call it “due diligence”. And with the players out of the complex, what is the rush if Romeo wants to get this right?
not as if a whole lot is going on right now in the NFL ... plenty of time to get a guy
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Didn't say there hasn't been time
My point is that there is no rush either.
And the “Patriot way” is what will continue to allow us to progress.
I realize there's no rush, I was in agreement with your point on that
as for the so-called “Patriots Way” I’m thinking it’s more bogus than the “Magic Bullet Theory” … there are any number of ways or methods to asemble a winning football team, and even those so-called methods aren’t written in stone
get the best players and coaches and win games, pretty simple (and yes, a simplistic viewpoint) but that’s really what it is … it’s football, not a secret recipe
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I do get your point
but after reading War Room, do you not see why the “Patriot Way” is as effective as it is? I think Dimitroff has done a much better job of making it his own way, while staying true to the priniciples than Pioli has. I think Pioli has tried to hard to make it a carbon copy, but it is a pretty effective system.
well ...
1) I haven’t read the book, no plans to
2) I understand your point as well, it’s all Pioli knows
3) there ARE good people and coaches and ways of doing things that are NOT associated with the Patriots
4) he’s doing it wrong (but we know that)
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Tad Harsh
and no I haven’t bought it either
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 29, 2012 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
heard it's a good read ... but I almost feel like I've read half of it already from some of the comments I've seen
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
No OC candidate in his right mind would care about any perceived negativity around Hunt/Pioli.
If your career goal is to be an HC in the NFL you almost always get there by excelling as a coordinator. If you’re an offensive coach, there’s only 32 of these jobs in the world. In this case you’d be working for an HC with 5 Superbowl rings. You take the job.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
Thank you.
All the talk about how nobody will work for the Chiefs is ridiculous. That is certainly not the reason they haven’t hired an OC yet.
"Be an analyst. Don’t be a douchebag." - Terrell Suggs to Skip Bayless
I believe the issue
Is the sooner the better. The longer you take the more scouting time gets wasted on all parts.
Romeo has been around long enough to have a few guys in mind. No need for nation wide OC search. Its obvious he came into the job totally unprepared about a staff.
How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 29, 2012 12:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I completely agree here and my big concern all along, and I sure hope it's not true, but if
a coach or OC (would naturally ask who the QB was going to be) were told that it basically had to be Cassel, then that could make it difficult.
What if he's waiting for someone to become available?
Would it still be “obvious he came into the job totally unprepared about a staff?”
"Be an analyst. Don’t be a douchebag." - Terrell Suggs to Skip Bayless
thats not really fair....
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
SInce he didn't HAVE the job, how could he be prepared about a staff?
I don’t see the rush and having to wait for the Super Bowl to be over portends someone from a succesful team. I’m surely not afraid of getting anyone from the Patriots just because they are from the Patriots.
I also don’t think Cassel has a reputation that is scaring away prospective coaches. If Haley was half the nutcase that people here want to portray him, I think Cassel has to be given some leeway on that as well. It seemed like if you were not Kurt Warner, Haley was not going to let you take any chances, and that might even include looking at second and third options in your progressions.
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 29, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
Who then?
The Patriots have uhhh who? Ivan Fears? No way it could be Ferentz…he is so green it’s not funny!
Maybe the Giants yeah….QB coach Mike Sullivan maybe.
I would like someone like Hue Jackson, Al Saunders, or Jim Fassel. Guys who know how to run an offense.
How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 29, 2012 5:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So just because they haven't got them yet means they never will?
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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 29, 2012 5:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
"Unprepared" would be knee-jerk reactions to getting a staff in place
Going through the entire list of candidates, including ones not available yet, is thorough and the right thing to do.
I’m not seeing a whole lot of seriously important scouting needed for our offense this year. Our starters, outside of QB and RT, are in place. Some could maybe use a bit of an upgrade, but nothing so vital that they need every precious second to find a replacement.
Just relax and be patient. What high quality OC hasn’t we really missed out on any way? Not many I can think of.
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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 29, 2012 2:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Unprepared, huh? And who are you afraid we'll miss out on?
….Arians? He’s going back to a former employer with a chance to coach either RG3 or Luck.
….Mike Sherman? I heard reports we went after him, he chose to work with Philbin, who he a) coached in HS and b) hired in the NFL. Plus c), he knows/runs a similar system.
Who else that’s worth a tinker’s damn has been hired? Koetter? Sparano? Shotty? That’s a three-pack of suckage, right there. Maybe Sparano will get out of his own way and get something done, otherwise, the other two are proven mid-pack hires.
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by go_saleaumua on Jan 29, 2012 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
It could be because the future OC is getting ready for the Super Bowl but I would not
discount that it could be one or more of the reasons given on the poll. Also, the longer they wait, the fewer options they have but it only takes one “good one.” So, let’s hope.
Josh McD anyone? while most accept that he will be NE's OC next season, it ain't
a done deal. I think Josh was brought in to gameplan while the other guy hits the the Penn State situation with regards to coaches and recruiting. After the SB, I think McD comes here and is groomed as the next HC.
It IS a done deal.
He was hired to replace O’Brien.
"Be an analyst. Don’t be a douchebag." - Terrell Suggs to Skip Bayless
NFL.com reports it as a multi-year deal
I can’t find any hint of him not being their OC next year.
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 29, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
its simple to me
people are blasting the front office for sitting on their hands….ok….
ill agree if the coach who ends up hired is a guy currently available. ill throw something if its promotion from within, and its looking like even hoffman is keeping his job…which makes me want to weep openly for my mentor who would roll over in his grave watching mccluster/arenas be ineffective in terms of scoring td’s on returns.
its quite possible, back on subjecf, that the coach is actually on a super bowl team….so lets give it time, lets see what they come up with…..
they have to get this right. perfect fit, perfect personality, we must must must get the right man. whoever the heck that is
Pay Brandon Carr/Romeo
Team Colquitt
Agreed. I'm more concerned with the (lack of a) special teams coach at this point of the process..
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 29, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
Is it possible that Arenas and McCluster were used much more with the injuries
to Jamaal and Eric Berry and just did not have their usual burst in the rerurn game.
Succop and Colquitt played well
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 29, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
Hoffmans specialty is kickers and coverage and not returns
Now we have one of the best PR in the league despite Hoffman so imagine what he would be like with someone who could put together some better return game strategies.
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by GenericBrand on Jan 29, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
or worse
that is always the alternative
Change is not always good
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 29, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not so much faulting Arenas' and McClusters numbers
as stupid penalties, getting TWO field goals blocked back to back and a general lack of “special” on the special teams. I don’t know how much to credit the coach with our two great kickers.
Succop and Colquitt played well
I think we need a change here as well:
Mascot Coordinator – Dan Meers
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If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 29, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Mascot Coordinator?
someone to lead Warpaint around the field after TD’s?
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That poop was on the field for an entire week and not a single person picked it up!
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by electriclight on Jan 29, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
I do hope someone picked it up, put it in an envelope and took it to a meeting to show as an example of the distinct lack of attention to detail that's been hurting the franchise for who knows how long!
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There would have never been poop on the ground for that long
Pioli got rid of all the lazy people back in 2009. The poop would have been picked up immediately because the staff that Pioli hired does pay attention to detail.
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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 29, 2012 2:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I believe the wrapper incident was from 2009. (if I'm wrong on that, please correct me)
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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 29, 2012 2:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I have it straight from Warpaint's thoughts ...
(I’m kinda of a horse whisperer, yanno) … that he was the one that blew the lid off the Fascist Pioli Regime. You want Babb’s “Deepthroat” to fess up? You can try feeding him lots of carrots, apples and sugar cubes? But the best “truth serum” for him is some good ol’ sour mash from the Still. Babb’s “Deepthroat” loses all inhibitions when driniking from the sour mash barrel. ;=)
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by LocoLoboChico on Jan 29, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
nice!
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I've gots da mash
Now I need Warpaint.
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by LocoLoboChico on Jan 29, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
Your Loco
I could use some Mash in the back stall (on the left)
that Ass on the right is a LUSH
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 29, 2012 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
ha!
you want sweet mash or sour mash?
99 points … that’s one weird box score to look at
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Watching Swayze in "Red Dawn"
I am ready to choke somebody
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 29, 2012 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
never saw that
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China
600 million chinaman, there were 1 Billion screaming chinamen
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 29, 2012 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
Better bring back Haley to run him through his conditioning training, berate him, cuss at him, use offensive derogatory terms at him, and play the horse he had a history with over Warpaint, despite the talent discrepancy
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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 29, 2012 2:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Or score more TDs?
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 29, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
Warpaint has a better chance of throwing a TD pass than Palko
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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 29, 2012 3:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree with the post re: coach in super bowl
I would surmise that the Chiefs may look to interview one of more coaches from either the Patriots or Giants. I think it is overreacting to assume NFL administration has such a negative view of the Chiefs they are avoiding employment opportunity.
Let’s let it play out.
However I do believe that Romeo has some pull with other coaches. He has a long history and appears to have the respect of players and administration. The Chiefs may be looking for an ideal coordinator that is young enough to take over whe Romeo retires i.e. Jim Caldwell or George Sieffert.
George Seifert is 72 years old
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Hahaha!!!!
That’s funny I don’t care who ya are!!
How long should you try? Until.
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by Matt_Grbac on Jan 29, 2012 9:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We have NO choice now
no signings till Monday after the Super Bowl
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 29, 2012 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
isn't that what we've been waiting on anyway?
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Seems to me Haley was fired to late
or to early
The Chiefs won 2 games, almost three, with on-board talent. It seems we are going to continue with the survivors at this point in time……
Chiefs Survivor Island, an all new Prime-time series
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 29, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
LOL
it always goes on … the NFL is a series that will never be canceled
we’re really close, I think … honestly, I can see a good year in 2012 if …
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Daboll or Zorn
That’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it….unless I decide to change it.
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