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Looking on to the free agency: Nose Tackle

Kansas City is a much different team than we were a year ago. A season ago, Kansas City was an offensive powerhouse. We could throw or run effectively, teams were kept off balance by the duel threats. The only thing we lacked was a defense that could really stop a high-powered offense.

Now here we are, as the 2011 season is coming to a close, with bragging rights as one of only two teams (the other of which is going on to the Super Bowl...) to defeat the 15-2 Green Bay Packers, and sole bragging rights as the only team to keep them under 20 points. With a little help from Romeo's new ball-control, possession-style offense, the defense was able to virtually shut the Packers down. No D-lineman could be blocked, linebackers were flying all over the field and drilling ball-carriers, and all the receivers were dropping balls do to the constant harassment by our secondary.

Though Kelly Gregg has been a great player, the guy has been in the league since 1999. At a physical position like NT, that's outstanding but he won't last much longer. Which is why we need to start looking for his imminent replacement.

Paul Soliai, NT, Miami Dolphins

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Paul is a pretty big, young NT that has really blossomed this year into one of the best run-stuffers in the league. (though you'd never know it if you didn't watch Miami games). His massive 6'4, 360 pound frame makes him a nightmare for smaller interiors, and he manhandled Wieg and Lilja in our last meeting earlier this year, and was one of the sole purposes why we couldn't run the damn ball. His lack of moves and his unwillingness to use his hands has been criticized, but who really needs a swim move when you're that big and can just bulldoze over everyone? He fills up 5 freaking holes with his gut alone! His size, power and aggression is just what this defense needs to be considered elite.

Antonio Garay, NT, San Diego Chargers

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Antonio is an interesting guy. From his hair to the car he drives, you can tell Garay wants to stand out. He's a decent sized NT, but nothing too big (6'4, 320). He's your typical jack-of-all-trades. He is fast-ish and has good jump off the snap, has very good arm strength to create separation, good leg drive that powers a devastating bull-rush, uses his hands well, good against the run and for being a nose tackle, is a very good pass-rusher.

Aubrayo Franklin, DT, New Orleans Saints

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Franklin is a guy who a lot of people wanted last free-agency who has had a mediocre season with the Saints. Though it has been a decent one, he did not stand out as a 4-3 DT, which means he would've been nearly invisible at NT in our system. I really can't see Pioli picking him up, being as he did pass on him earlier when he had the chance, but you never know.

Sione Pouha, NT, New York Jets

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Every time I see this guy, I think "God wanted him to play Nose Tackle". He's just built for the position. He's shorter at 6'2, which lets him get leverage on taller O-linemen, but has the girth (330 pounds) and power to refuse movement and collapse the pocket. Sione is a good, young player who could be a longtime starter in KC.

Shaun Rogers, DT, New Orleans Saints

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For whatever reason in the Saints 2011 Free Agency, they grabbed Shaun Rogers, a former elite NT/DT from Cleveland who was trying to make an attempt to get back on his feet after 2 quiet years. Kansas City made a reach for him, but before anything could happen New Orleans snatched him up. I've liked him since his time with the Lions. He's 6'3, 350 pounds, bench presses the Earth and can dunk a basketball. And to be honest, I like him because unlike a lot of NT's, he knows how to put a lick on someone when he gets some space to work with. For whatever reason New Orleans barely even let him play, and I can only hope Kansas City takes him this time around.

Red Bryant, DE/DT, Seattle Seahawks

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I have never understood WTF Red is doing playing DE (In a 4-3 no less) when he's bigger than a shitload of DT's. I guess he's a decent pass-rusher, but 4-3 DE is really where the rush comes from in that formation and he's really just good at run coverage. So anyways, Red could work at NT in KC. He's big, strong, and very athletic for his size and is one of many under-appreciated players on an underrated Seattle team.


THOUGHTS?

Poll
What nose tackle would you like to see come to Kansas City?
Paul Soliai
173 votes
Shaun Rogers
53 votes
Antonio Garay
12 votes
Sione Pouha
43 votes
Aubrayo Franklin
9 votes
Red Bryant
4 votes
Take one in the draft, like Dontari Poe or something.
25 votes
Quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback. Quarterback is the only important position.
20 votes

339 votes | Poll has closed

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in other gnus …

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by upamtn on Jan 30, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

On Bryant

Seattle used a lot of 4-3 under/3-4 type looks last year, which made him a 3-4 DE quite often. I’d choose Soliai though

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 28, 2012 6:44 PM CST reply actions  

nicely done, NN!if we go FA route on this, my preference would be to "go young"

Pouha looks like my kind of guy …

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by upamtn on Jan 28, 2012 6:51 PM CST reply actions  

My thoughts are that if we truly think Powe is going to be the NT of the future...

We should grab Shaun Rogers. He’s still playing at a high level so if we want to see what Powe can do but don’t want him starting yet, he could occasionally drop in instead of Rogers. And Rogers is a chiseled, wise veteran that probably has a few pointers for Powe.

by NigerianNightmare on Jan 28, 2012 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Rogers ...

see, if he’d gotten him a year ago he might have punched Palko and … oh, never mind

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by upamtn on Jan 28, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Siona Pouha....

he is 32 years old. Not exactly young in terms of NFL football. I think you may have him confused with paul soliai who is 28????

by wren42 on Jan 29, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

THAT WAS WIERD...

Siona pouha is 32, not young in nfl football standards. I think you mean paul soliai who is 28

by wren42 on Jan 29, 2012 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

hmmmmmmmm ... must have read something wrong somewhere

in that case: Soliai it is :-)

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by upamtn on Jan 29, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Id love to get Soliai

and the Rodgers as well. Rodgers can give Soliai a blow when needed and can also pass rush from the DE position in later downs. Also provides good depth with Bailey and possibly Gordon. This allows Powe to have another year of development and only be active if someone goes down. Soliai would prolly cost a good chunk of change but I think we can get Rodgers on a relatively decent deal.

by wren42 on Jan 29, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd as soon work Powe in as we develop him, let Powe give Soliai a rest here and there

Powe gets some reps, Soliai gets a breather, we save money on Rogers that we can spend elsewhere

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by upamtn on Jan 29, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Good post

I heard Soliai quite a few times around here. He would be a good choice to help our run D.

When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.

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CHIEFS WILL!

by NJChieffan16 on Jan 28, 2012 7:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Solai would be ideal

But my vote/guess is Rogers or Franklin

by stagdsp on Jan 28, 2012 7:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

For no good reason, I'd shy away from Franklin.

Premature buyer’s remorse has me hesitating on the big $$ FA NT. But I like Soliai the best of them all.

And I do think KC ought to try to make SOME sort of splash in FA. This draft looks pretty deep at whatever position they don’t plug with a FA. For instance, I’m partial to Ta’amu.

Rogers seems more the pattern than the others. But one wonders why he didn’t see all that much action as a Saint. He’d’ve been in as much or more than Gregg was, if Pioli had landed him, I bet.

I can’t wait to see what FAs they have in hand, going into the draft.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Jan 28, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

We really need to add some key pieces in Free Agency before the draft as it would set us up to not reach at all.
I see several options for about every position other than RT in free agency.

by onthereg on Jan 28, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Pioli can't miss on a NT

We dont have time to wait for a NT to develop if we draft them and IF we bring in Soliai we should be a top 5 Defense immediately and finally bring Arrowhead back with a dominating D.
If i had my wish i would Sign Soliai AND Rogers (rogers should come cheaper) and play a HUGE 3 front kind of like Baltimore does with Ngata.

by onthereg on Jan 28, 2012 8:47 PM CST reply actions  

Agree

He is a better pass rusher than given credit for and a better fit as de and depth at NT.

by onthereg on Jan 28, 2012 11:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Where have you been the last thrre years?
Pioli can’t miss on a NT

If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?

by electriclight on Jan 29, 2012 8:16 AM CST up reply actions  

great post.

I voted for Garay, not only does he fill a need, he would not be on a team we face 2 times a year and battle for the division with, I would assume he would be cheaper than some of the others but probably would be the most expensive for some reason.

im all for whoever RAC would choose that guy can make a stud D-lineman out of someone off the street it seems.

by the great thunderlips on Jan 28, 2012 10:27 PM CST reply actions  

Rogers

Can hold down the NT spot while Powe develops.

Look out for the CHIEFS in 2012!!!!!!

by KC-Murdock on Jan 28, 2012 11:04 PM CST reply actions  

that's what they said about Kelly Gregg

that’s why I like this Sione Pouha … still young, yet already developed, good to go for 5 yrs or whatever

just my way of thinking

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by upamtn on Jan 28, 2012 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

true

Powe just didn’t get playing time this season. I think he could be the answer to our NT riddle, he needs someone to rotate with that wont be around for 5 years. I would like Rogers on a 2 or 3 year contract.

Look out for the CHIEFS in 2012!!!!!!

by KC-Murdock on Jan 28, 2012 11:52 PM CST up reply actions  

also

Doesn’t Rogers have history with Crennel and his system?

Look out for the CHIEFS in 2012!!!!!!

by KC-Murdock on Jan 28, 2012 11:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Rogers was with Cleveland, but after Crennel left there ... have to double check on that, been awhile

my thinking is get a couple of guys that can work together for a few years or so, keep them both … rotate and keep them fresh and stronger

one reason Pouha would fit my preferences

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by upamtn on Jan 29, 2012 12:23 AM CST up reply actions  

one year as Crennel was with Browns 2005-2008 ... one year overlap, yes

Detroit Lions (2001–2007)
Cleveland Browns (2008–2010)

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by upamtn on Jan 29, 2012 12:33 AM CST up reply actions  

and

The Chiefs tried to sign him last year
He fits the mold of FA DLinemen for KC in the last 2 yrs…

I think he makes a lot of sense.

Of course, the BEST scenario is that Powe is ready to start, which is possible

by stagdsp on Jan 29, 2012 8:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

and just how old is this guy?

sure, the BEST scenario is that Stanzi Powe is ready to start but if not, and from the limited playing time most likely not, the we have to rely on Cassel someone else and I happen to like a guy like Orton Pouha more in this case, for looking down the road you can’t be sure or if those late-round guys will develop

see what I mean?

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by upamtn on Jan 29, 2012 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

2008

It was the year RAC got a Pro Bowl Performance out of SR.

BTW……he will be 33 in March so Powe has 1 or 2 years to get it together if we can get him.

But I am cool with Soliai too as we would get 4-6 years from him.

by SinceMG on Jan 29, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd love one of

pouha and rogers

by kcchiefs2782 on Jan 28, 2012 11:32 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

I would love to have Soliai, but if we spend a bunch on a big free agent (peyton manning) it could be unrealistic

So I think Sione Pouha is the best option and most realistic choice here

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1. Draft Trent Richardson in the 2012 NFL Draft
2. Sign Dwayne Bowe to a long-term deal
3. Keep Brandon Carr and Leron McClain

by bigbosschief on Jan 29, 2012 11:18 AM CST reply actions  

great reason not to bother with Manning

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by upamtn on Jan 29, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Still can't understand why people want him

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Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 29, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

who

would you 2 like to see QB next season IYO? cuz id like RG3 also not going to happen so Matt,Kyle,Ricky, or go with a QB in the draft? like Foles or weeden

by kcchiefs2782 on Jan 29, 2012 11:56 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

RGIII if I had a choice haha

Likely be Matt with Stanzi as a back up, and another mid/late round pick.. Brock would be a good pick up in that mold, has great talent but is very very raw

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Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 29, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Just because he is big?

Brock really is not the same type of QB in the way that Ben can shrug defenders off and keep the play alive

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Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 30, 2012 5:47 AM CST up reply actions  

I have not seen much

of Brock but I have heard him in a few of our late round mock drafts so he must have some good intangibles but I kinda like what I saw from N.Foles I just don’t want to see cassel for very long next season at all so I’m all in for any new meat to get his chance to come in and take us to that next level cassel has had his chance IMO

by kcchiefs2782 on Jan 30, 2012 11:49 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Brock has huge potential, very raw at this point though

Tall QB with a big frame and a big arm who is surprisingly mobile, however he will likely be picked earlier than we are looking at QBs

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Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 30, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

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