Devon Still a possibility for KC?

First off there is a front page story about him, with lots of comments

Secondly he is not a NT prospect, DE in a 3-4 or DT in a 4-3
Thirdly you usually do not want a NT to be that tall, shorter guys get more natural leverage.

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 28, 2012 10:19 AM CST reply actions

Personally I believe he would make a great NT. When some one is 6-5 300 it seems people assume that player is a perfect 3-4 DE. There are a lot of players that play a position where they aren’t the ideal height or weight. Just look at how he plays. I appreciate your comments.

by KCCHIEFSfan 82 on Jan 28, 2012 10:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

just because some players ARE at positions when they're not "ideally suited" doesn't mean it's a good idea

rather like … a lot of baseball players use a bat that is not ideal size and weight for them

a bat that is too heavy limits how fast a batter can swing thru the strike zone, limiting bat speed means limiting power to drive the ball and/or maintain bat control

a bat that is too light will usually result in overswinging and a tendency to uppercut the ball, which results in fly ball outs more often than not

a bat that is either too light or too heavy is not a good thing …

so, by the same token, why would we want a NT who is too light too get pressure and eat up blockers and/or too tall to maintain balance in the middle?

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by upamtn on Jan 28, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions

Hence, the age old football adage..

Low pad wins.

Angry Red, 'nuff said.

by chiefsfan62 on Jan 28, 2012 11:08 AM CST via Android app up reply actions

I see your point

But I have an issue with the height argument. The whole leverage thing. Most elite tackles are 6’5, so are we saying they have bad leverage and just long arms? And if your whole bat anology is true what type of bat is tamba as an olb

by KCCHIEFSfan 82 on Jan 28, 2012 11:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

Most two gap NT are shorter and are powerful lower body athletes.

You can get away with a taller, leaner NT in a system like they use in San Fran or Dallas or Houston but if you look at the 2 gappers in the league they’re either 6’2 or less guys and big powerful lower body guys like Hampton and Solial and WIlfork.

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by GenericBrand on Jan 28, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions

Soliai*

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by GenericBrand on Jan 28, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions

Soliai is a bit taller but makes up for it in size

And he has the frame to carry the extra weight, where Still doesn’t.

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by GenericBrand on Jan 28, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions

I'm still waiting...

to see when the three little bears come into this story.

by 12t on Jan 28, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions

Good insight for sure

Although this is a bit more of a fanshot and like BAMF said there was a front page story yesterday with a lot of discussion. Thanks though for the post, and nice find on the vid link.

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by GenericBrand on Jan 28, 2012 11:10 AM CST reply actions

it's a good little post, nothing fancy but no objections to it (other than the premise of the Chiefs "needing" Still as our 1st Round pick

unless … one assumes he should be plugged in at DE opposite TJax, he makes sense there, not at NT position

so the question it that case is: would he be such a clear and major upgrade over Dorsey (and/or Bailey) … ie, can he both stop the run AND get to the passer that he’s an every down player? and is that such a need that he’s a clear choice over other options?

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by upamtn on Jan 28, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions

I think there will be better players at their particular positions and in turn more value then Still

But it’s not what we want or think and I think we all know at this point it isnt unpossible for Pioli to take another DE at #11. If he’s going to spite us all and do that then Still is probably the best pick and I think longterm he would be a big upgrade over Dorsey. It would also allow us to flip Dorsey for a pick before he goes UFA next year and there’s alot of quality this year in rounds 3-5.

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by GenericBrand on Jan 28, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions

oh, it's definitely going to be up to Pioli (and assuming input from Crennel, and others)

and I don’t disagree that Still is likely the best DE/DT available at our pick … nor would I put it past Pioli to grab him regardless of who’s left on the board

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by upamtn on Jan 28, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions

I'd like RG3 but I would take Still

I think we need a nice big hole filling NT but I think we can kill two birds with one stone!
1st Decastro OG
2nd Poe NT
3rd Fleener TE
4th Ballad RB
5th Weeden QB
6th S
7th OL

by kcchiefs2782 on Jan 28, 2012 11:11 AM CST via Android app reply actions

I'd love me some Poe in the 2nd Round, but I doubt he falls that far

take him in a heartbeat if he did (nice little draft list there, btw)

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by upamtn on Jan 28, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions

Don't get all the Poe love

He played against lackluster competition and rarely looked dominate. I think that if you strip away the hype the guy is a 3rd or 4th round prospect in need of a lot of development.

by Everest on Jan 28, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions

perhaps, he has the build for it ... but I wouldn't take him even in the lower first

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by upamtn on Jan 28, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions

That's about all he has though

I think that people get to wrapped up in Poe’s measurables and don’t look at the actual player.

by Everest on Jan 28, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions

agreed

by stagdsp on Jan 28, 2012 1:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

any other

good NT that would be good enough how about coples UNC he can play DE/DT maybe we go
1st coples if available
2nd Adams OL or Zerby OL

by kcchiefs2782 on Jan 28, 2012 2:19 PM CST via Android app up reply actions

coples is not a fit for KC

No NT in the 1st

I would LOVE DeCastro then Adams or Sanders in the 2nd

OR Reiff/Martin in rd 1, Fleener/Allen (TE) in the 2nd

by stagdsp on Jan 28, 2012 7:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

how would you feel if the drafted poe to play end?

by fishhooks on Jan 28, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions

Other guys I would like more in the 1st/2nd Range

I’d take a flier on Poe in the late 3rd early 4th, but if you’re looking at him in the 1st or 2nd a guy like Brockers would be a far better pick. Even Coples would be better IMO.

by Everest on Jan 28, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions

fleener won't fall this far either

by ryanishere on Jan 28, 2012 11:46 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions

Nice try, but we do not need another Dorsey. This guy is a 1 year wonder, gettin touted to no end

but I think there are better DT’s in this draft myself.

by dubld on Jan 28, 2012 11:52 AM CST reply actions

curious as to who you see as better ... and why?

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by upamtn on Jan 28, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions

I'd take Brockers long before I'd even look at Still

I think you’re right on with the “touted to no end” comment. As I recall Still was seen as a borderline first rounder at best during the season and has shot up this offseason. I seem to recall a Pioli quote where he said something to the effect of the Chiefs draft board rarely changes much after the season, they look more at game tape than they do how a guy plays in shorts. I don’t think Still offers a tremendous upgrade over what we already have on the roster. Brockers IMHO would.

by Everest on Jan 28, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions

Release the Powe

I really hope we don’t go defense in the first round.

This time last year people were clammoring for Powe in rounds 3-5, Since we took him in round 6 everyone is dismissing him now. The guy looked great in preseason and they simply were not going to suit up two NTs during the season. I just don’t see D-line as a major need this draft.

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by electriclight on Jan 28, 2012 12:42 PM CST reply actions

Still would be more of a candidate to take Dorsey's spot at DE

If he’s projected to be at Richard Seymor’s level, I’d have no problem with the pick. We need a more disruptive DL.

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by jmcgoblue on Jan 28, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions

There is that. There is also just a tough, generic, 3-man front they could put on the field, and LEAVE on the field

on 3rd down.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Jan 28, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions

Ill laugh ny ass off

Ic we draft Still and poig him at Nose, everybody would flip out lol.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 28, 2012 12:53 PM CST reply actions

OK. I'll bite.

Since ‘09, I don’t think KC has had a more stout D-Lineman than Tyson Jackson. I think a case could be made that one of the reasons he’s not played inside (except in nickel, and not very frequently) is that they needed him at DE.

When I look at the KC base, right now, They’re going with a shorter, stouter guy in the middle, partly because they can afford to specialize in the middle. IOW, Gregg is inside because he helps there, and he’d be kind of ludicrous in 5-tech. And that’s why folks shy away from 1st-round NT specialist, but a great 3-4 DE can play like a NT-plus, imo.

I’m not discounting great NTs, like Wilfork, who gets to play one more game that counts, even as we speak. And watching Ta’amu in Senior Bowl week, I’d quickly come around if Pioli reached on HIM, because I think he can 2-gap just fine, and he’s a pretty awesome combination of power and athleticism, carries that weight lightly, if such can be said, and he’s either going to be doubled or he’s going to cause problems.

So as long as we’re talking Still, I think Ta’amu is in the discussion, too. A player like him might be able to play anywhere along the front.

But I’ll go on record as not being 100% dogmatic about “Still is not a NT in this system.” You might be surprised what a trio of DT/DEs plus a pair of ’tweener OLBs can do. Might keep the Chiefs in their base a lot more, and then what might they have for their nickel by swapping Belcher for, say, a Zach Brown, if he slipped to the 2nd?

If Still’s body type is similar to Jackson’s, I can see it as an upgrade at Dorsey’s spot, and it would open up an all-around good 3-tackle front, with 3 1st-rounders at the top of the rotation. I think Jax-Still-Dorsey or Still-Jax-Dorsey, for example, would pose some problems for opposing offenses. Chiefs have some real size at OLB that makes for a big front 5, even if there’s no elephant in the middle.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Jan 28, 2012 1:38 PM CST reply actions

But these guys

3-4 DE’s anyway have less value than other positions.

to me anyway

Just basing your opinion on Tamu of off a glorified scrimage against a thrown together o-line will not give you the entire picture.

Who was that dominating Nose Tackle we passed on last year?

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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 28, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions

well that didn't come out exactly right

in 2012 those guys have less value, when we already have some on the roster.

2009 was a different deal

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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 28, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions

He was pretty explosive in those drills, even discounting for the advantage to D.

He just looks to me like a guy who’ll either eat up doubleteams or run over, around, or through single blocking. Better quick-twitch than Powe.

But I don’t watch these guys much/any during the season, so I’m just throwing impressions on top of what the more expert people are saying.

Also, I’m about ready to see a 3-4 DE drafted to be a 3-4 DE in place of Dorsey. Or at least I’m open enough to the idea not to blink twicce if they do something silly like reaching for DE, and I don’t mean Coples.

Like upamtn’s “screw-the-pooch” comment, yesterday, I’m paranoid about waiting ‘til the 2nd and then see the fall-back guy get snatched out from under me. Aside from Decastro and Konz, I’m ambivalent enough about the big men to be caught between wanting to wait and worrying about missing out on the 2nd or 3rd pass. I don’t want to tell myself that there are 5 or 6 guys that I’d be happy with in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th, only to see a run at the position and be left in the 3rd with the 7th guy, and still needing to do something.

Ignorance is bliss. I’m entering decision paralysis, with the college-player overload, while the rest of you guys have been watching college ball, right along, and know quite a bit about these guys.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Jan 28, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions

Prof, after years of citing you as a reference and the font of (almost) all knowledge ...

… it’s odd for me to see you using something I said as an example

have to admit that thought DOES bother me, ie that we pass on some talent (like a DeCastro) and then the next guy is gone too (like Konz) … left “holding the bag in a snipe hunt”

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by upamtn on Jan 28, 2012 9:41 PM CST up reply actions

You're just biased towards me because

~~we-got-drunk-together~~ you got a kick out of arguing politics with me when I was drunk. I think if you want credibility around here, you’ll reduce your Mills citations, not that i don’t believe what I write as i write it. But plen’y o’ smart folks disagree with me at every turn. :o)

I think I have a unique perspective, and maybe some insights, but maybe my “voice” gives what I say too much credibility. My incessant writing inserts the big lie in your head like a mustard seed, until unfounded opinion takes root and takes on false authority. I ain’t smert. I just wear ya down.

Heh. It’s been a good week for football. I’m catching up, sort of.

I came into the weekend semi-hopeful for Osemele as being a G with RT starter potential. I don’t like him as an OT, any more. I didn’t have as much respect for Glenn at tackle, before today.

Still digesting the game. Like why so much TE on the left side? I guess because they were trying to set up the rollout to the right off the misdirection. And I like Wilson more than I expected. Not sure the other guys translate to the NFL, and Wilson’d be a flyer as well. But on a good play-action team, he could be pretty deadly on the naked boot. Most people won’t like him for what he did in the pocket, and that could be telling, because of how often you’re down to just throwing the ball late in games. Still, I get the sense from watching him that if he had a chance to become familiar with our guys, he’d be a winner, and be a kick in the ass to watch.

I still seem to (for no good reason) like Zebrie Sanders more than everybody else. But it takes me forever to break down the line play. Kind of like when I was in jazz choir, and while all the virtuosos were pounding out all the voices on a piano, I was painfully plinking out MY part, with my index finger. So I’d have MY part worked-out, but no feel for what everybody else was doing on the harmonies, which tended to drag me off my note. That’s what happens when a trumpet player tries to hang with a bunch of music majors, on his way to becoming a blues singer.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Jan 28, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions

you like him more now, huh? stag had doubts about the guy at OT too, wonder what he be thinkin' now

didn’t have as much respect for Glenn at tackle, before today

Glenn is one of few that I care for, to be honest … still ridin’ the DeCastro Train (and will til draft day) … one of those “gut feelings” I guess, that and feeling a LITTLE more comfortable in my overall “knowledge” of the team and football (thanks to you, oh great wise drunkard! … and many, many others who STILL know tons more than I ever will)

I’m kind of going back to my DeCastro-Glenn-Antonio Allen thing, but who knows where that’ll be in a coupla months :-)

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by upamtn on Jan 28, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions

I'm just picking up names and checking them out.

It does appear that there are plenty of non-1st-round options inside, who would constitute upgrade. I don’t like how Pioli got to this place, but now that we’re here, the kinds of things he’s been doing should work pretty well for getting them a good overall team next year.

But he still hasn’t done anything before the 5th round for OT. So I guess what he’s been doing really won’t suffice, but it does seem like rounding out the squad is more in reach. I just wish he’d done more at OT, already. There’s a lot at stake in getting it right this one time. Would’ve preferred to see more stabs taken. We might already be past RT anxiety, and certainly no worse off for taking those chances.

I feel that way about QB, too. For late-round Stanzi to be the only attempt, so far, seems pretty feeble, especially when they’ve already spent a 2nd-rounder on a part-time running back.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Jan 29, 2012 2:36 AM CST up reply actions

Unlike DJ Uppers there ...

I wouldn’t jump off Pikes Peak if Piol traded back and passed on DeCastro.

DeCastro would be sweet for a HELLA kickass long-term investment, but other guys like Konz, Senio Kelemente, or maybe even Glen now for his versatility, were there in rd. 2 or 3, those guys would still be definitely upgrades for OG. And guys like a healthy Datko, or Sanders still, for our ZBS, were still there in the 3rd or 4th, they would be an upgrade at RT.

I really ain’t none too worried about drafting another late-round QB that will be just another wasted pick. ANY other positions drafted in the 5th, 6th and 7th rds. have a much better rate of gaining us at least contributing players. I can always re-sign Calabaloo or Brokie for a clipboard holder.

I just wish he’d done more at OT, already. There’s a lot at stake in getting it right this one time. Would’ve preferred to see more stabs taken. We might already be past RT anxiety

I SHOR as hell agree with this though! I’ve been livid with Scotty P ignoring the O-line since the 3rd rd. back in 09. And then drafting Dex AND Arenas in the 2nd in ‘10!?!?!?! And still no RT, C, or OG, nor a NT pick!?!?!?! And then the coupe de grace: drafting a GD WR in the freaking 1st!?!?!?! And still no RT, OG, C!?!?!? Scotty … YOU’RE fired!!!

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by LocoLoboChico on Jan 29, 2012 3:23 AM CST up reply actions

Regarding your last point

Pioli wanted to draft Nate Solder, but NE took him a few picks earlier. No reason to take ‘whoever is available’ if you’re unsure the player is worthy of a 1st rd selection. We had NOBODY opposite Bowe (remember, Breaston wasn’t signed) so Baldwin wasn’t exactly a luxury pick. Also, don’t forget that the consolation prize for taking Baldwin was Justin Houston.

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by jmcgoblue on Jan 29, 2012 8:55 AM CST up reply actions

Consolation prize for trading back was Houston

Not so much Baldwin, as it could have been someone else and still nabbed Houston.

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 29, 2012 9:24 AM CST up reply actions

@ Dr. Mills. Well, since Pac-10 is purty much all the college ball I watch

I say Alameda could still learn 2-gap techniques. So he could be a good muy gigantico 5-tech DE. I’m not real big on him being a pure 2-gap NT. But … if RAC would adapt and modify his D to more shaded 1-gap attacks … then Alameda could become our Soap … or maybe even the potential to better than Soap in pass-rushing. He has quite a bit of talent and potential. DeCastro made him look like a fool, though, lol. Alameda is intriguingly versatile.

I never watched any Penn St ball nor Devon Still. But some say if Devon Still gets serious and plays with passion (like he apparently did more of this last season), he has the talent and tools to be purty damn good. I still think Brockers has higher upside; but I don’t watch much SEC ball. But Still is more NFL ready right now from some I’ve read. And he’s intriguingly versatile, as well. Hell, even Melvin Ingram intrigues me for his versatility.

Anywhoo, I’m becoming more and more partial to building a stellar D-line with lots of rotational attacking depth after watching the Giants SB berth run. Tuck, Toll, Joseph, Canty, J-P-P, and Osi, and then damn, throw in Mathias too! … those G-Men guys just attack opposing offenses relentlessly. Hell, if Mario Williams had a better tude, I’d be all for going after him in FA, lol.

I’m entering decision paralysis, with the college-player overload.

Yanno, if I thought Clark was really, really serious about building a SB team, and was willing to spend the moolah on a couple of big O-line FA’s to help, I wouldn’t be as big on O-line draftees like DeCastro/Konz/Datko/Sanders/Reif/Martin, ect. If Clark would do whatever it took to sign either Nicks or Grubbs, AND say, Demetrius Bell for a RT … I wouldn’t be opposed to Pioli trading back and going hog wild on fishing our D part in the draft.

Drafting Stills/Alameda/Brockers/Ingram/ plus Hightower to plug our gaping wound run defense, and crush the pocket on QB’s, would be pretty nice to me. And draft some kind of good S/TE killa like Antonio Allen/Trumaine Johnson/George Iloka (not sure what to think about your Zach Brown idea? Hmm …). Yeah, re-sign Carr too.

Cause FA O-linemen seem to slip right in and do purty well in general. While D’s seem to need to bond and gel from the ground up. Hell, with Matty Nice still at the helm, I don’t see a need for drafting more receiving/O weapons at all? Resign Bowe. Maybe draft another kickass RB to pair with JC that can catch his check-downs too. Maybe a latter round combo TE for depth? Or a latter rd. O-lineman for depth. Yeah, going RICH with top D prospects the first 3 rounds would be HeLLA good for me! If Clark and Pioli fixed the o-line thru FA’s.

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by LocoLoboChico on Jan 29, 2012 2:42 AM CST up reply actions

i think Ta'amu fits what Romeo is looking for

Would be a nice value pick if he’s there in the 3rd or later

by stagdsp on Jan 29, 2012 8:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

I think he may have played himself into the 2nd w/ the Senior Bowl week

But if he falls to the third, I’m on board.

I’d also like to see them take Akiem Hicks in the 5th if he’s there.

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by jmcgoblue on Jan 29, 2012 9:05 AM CST up reply actions

Rumour is Dorsey is leaving next year when his contract is up for a 4-3 team. So we

might have a replacement with Bailey, might not, but getting in competition for the position as a project is definitely on the board. I don’t know where we go in FA, but if we score there our draft will be different from all our expectations.

by dubld on Jan 29, 2012 7:18 AM CST up reply actions

i havent heard that rumor

by stagdsp on Jan 29, 2012 8:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

You must not read AP much ;)

We’ve been trying to push Dorsey out the door going on 3 years now…

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by jmcgoblue on Jan 29, 2012 8:56 AM CST up reply actions

only once or twice a minute:-)

Yeah, people have been writing Dorsey off all along… but I havent heard GD say anything negative at all

I still see him as a solid role player on this team, so i will be surprised if KC ships him off anytime soon

by stagdsp on Jan 29, 2012 9:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

The rumor was someone was sitting with his family at a game.

And his folks said he was hoping to go to a 4-3 team. As far as I remember, there was no pizza involved.

If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?

by electriclight on Jan 29, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions

maybe we plan on trading dorsey or possibly moving him to the nose?

romeo already said dorsey can play the nose, he cant be moved, he dominated in college when against G’s and C’s now he is playing against T’s and G’s, he is great against the run. and has the size ( height ) everyone is talking about for the nose in our system,

by the great thunderlips on Jan 28, 2012 1:42 PM CST reply actions

sounds logical

I doubt it happens, but it could

by stagdsp on Jan 28, 2012 1:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

I wonder what WEIGHT these guys will be playing at, now that Haley's gone.

I think Dorsey could hold at the point as a NT, and there’s a chance that his get-off might give him back his edge as a pass rusher. He might be able to get G/C off-balance from inside a lot better than he’s doing outside, like thunderlips is saying. And if he can start the play with a small edge like that, he might be able to keep the initiative more. But from that DE spot, it seems like Gs and Ts swallow him up and stall him out pretty easily.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Jan 28, 2012 8:51 PM CST up reply actions