Who Should Be The Chiefs Starting QB in 2012?

by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 26, 2012 3:43 PM CST

Between Arrowhead Pride and Twitter, Chiefs quarterback talk has been lighting up my timeline. There are certainly divided, or should I say undecided camps amongst fans. I think the only conclusion one can draw is that fans don't want to see Matt Cassel as the starter in 2012. However, what if he were the starter with a young Robert Griffin III sitting on the bench to hone his craft? Folks on twitter are upset that they're seeing talks of Peyton Manning going to the Jets, or the Dolphins, or even the Cardinals, but not a word of him going off to Kansas City. Then there's the thread discussing Steven St. John's interview with Jeff Chadiha of ESPN where most folks are definitely in the Kyle Orton over Matt Cassel camp. One thing I do think is certain, Ricky Stanzi, and due to the structure of his contract, Matt Cassel, will be on the Chiefs roster come training camp in late July.

We should and probably will have a third quarterback on the roster. You know Pioli is going to make a move somewhere, we haven't had less than three quarterbacks on the roster since his arrival. I do think it's pretty safe to say Tyler Palko will not be invited to camp. So who is it going to be?

Poll

Who should be the Chiefs starting QB in 2012?

Matt Cassel with a newly drafted RGIII sitting in waiting?

62 votes

Kyle Orton

119 votes

Peyton Manning

95 votes

Tell Ricky Stanzi to take the diapers off and get out there!

55 votes

331 votes | Poll has closed

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Currently, I'll go with one of the two guys under contract right now

Cassel or Stanzi.

Any other player is conjecture and not worth speculating about until they sign that contract with the arrowhead at the top

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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 26, 2012 3:45 PM CST via mobile reply actions

since currently those are our only options ;-)

Currently, I’ll go with one of the two guys under contract right now

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by upamtn on Jan 26, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions

And likely will be going into the start of the season, unfortunately

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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 26, 2012 4:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

You think the Chiefs will only carry two QBs

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by Tarkus on Jan 26, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions

We definitely need 3

If our #2 has the talent level of Tyler Palko.

by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 26, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions

They'll have at least three QBs in camp.

The only question is whether that third one is starting or bench material, or even PS material.

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by Tarkus on Jan 26, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions

The third QB will likely be insignificant as a game day non-dress

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by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 26, 2012 4:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

ps...

playstation material?

by 12t on Jan 26, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions

Practice Squad

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by Tarkus on Jan 26, 2012 5:43 PM CST up reply actions

please...

don’t take me seriously.

by 12t on Jan 26, 2012 5:56 PM CST up reply actions

If Chiefs move up to get RGIII, he's starting right away.

I can’t see him sitting a year and…(laughing uncontrollably)…..learning under Casshole for a year.

by craig in calgary on Jan 26, 2012 3:47 PM CST reply actions

Cassel does have some intangibles

there’s more than stepping back and throwing that a rookie has to learn to become a pro.

by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 26, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions

Where are they? I don't see em.

by Mr.Pibbs on Jan 26, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions

That being said

It’ll be Casshole starting, some scrub like Bruce Gradkowski or Cade McCown backing him up, Stanzi will be undressed most of the year. Win between 6-9 games, and repeat the following year, ruining our best players elite years.

by craig in calgary on Jan 26, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

That would suck

BTW, I don’t have a problem with them kicking the rookie right into the fire, but I can see where they’d sit him a bit to learn the offense and his teammates a bit.

by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 26, 2012 3:51 PM CST up reply actions

Win enough just to be out of reach of the top QB prospects..

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 26, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Still going to hold out hope for RGIII

Although not sitting behind Cassel

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 26, 2012 3:54 PM CST reply actions

Unfortunately...

Nobody at 1 Arrowhead drive will be making a play for RGIII . The quicker we move on from that the better. Its like the fans that were somehow still hoping we made the playoffs after we lost to Oakland.

by Dotcommer Dude KC on Jan 27, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions

Yeah cause Pioli wouldn't take a safety at #5 right?

No one knows what Pioli will or will not do

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 27, 2012 10:19 AM CST up reply actions

RG3 doesn't sit a learn with his skill set, he starts right away

Cam and Andy didn’t even have an offseason and one put up big numbers and the other led his team to the playoffs

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by KingChief on Jan 26, 2012 4:05 PM CST reply actions

sit and learn

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by KingChief on Jan 26, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions

That will be a comfort to his new team.

Which will not be the Chiefs.

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by Tarkus on Jan 26, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions

I'm not in the "give up a ton of picks to move up" camp

but if we do, this is the year we do it since we aren’t that far from the top of the draft

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by KingChief on Jan 26, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions

11 to 2 or 3 is a LOT.

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by Tarkus on Jan 26, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions

11 to 2 or 3 is a LOT.

Agreed. It probably requires another 1st round pick and possibly a player trade. I don’t think we can maintain our level of success, at least from 2010, without any of our current starters.

by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 26, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions

I see us in the late teens to early twenties range in the next few years

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by KingChief on Jan 26, 2012 4:26 PM CST up reply actions

With our IR players back, we could win the west

Which puts us in the 20s

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 26, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions

Never know what you're gonna get with the Cassel factor

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by KingChief on Jan 26, 2012 4:40 PM CST up reply actions

Cassel won't win us games, but he wont lose them

With Charles/TonyM/Bowe/Baldwin/Breason, an upgraded Oline

Berry back on D with Flowers/Carr/Lewis on the backend with Hali and Houston bringing pressure

Yeah this would be the best team Matt has had, and a team that could carry him. That is the problem though, we need a Qb who could carry THE team if need be, not fold and throw an int on a screen pass…

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 26, 2012 4:47 PM CST up reply actions

you mean Orton? yeah, I agree ...

we need a Qb who could carry THE team if need be, not fold and throw an int on a screen pass

although, throwing an INT on a screen will lose you more games than not

by upamtn on Jan 26, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions

Orton is an upgrade to Cassel not as big of one as people are making it to be

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 26, 2012 5:45 PM CST up reply actions

we are used to incremental upgrades

2 wins to 4 wins

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 26, 2012 6:45 PM CST up reply actions

and I think people are focusing too much on a statistical comparison while ignoring the physical abilities of each QB.

"Nothing against (Palko) or (Cassel), man, just — Kyle is a new beast out there with us," fullback Le’Ron McClain said. "He ran the whole game on the sideline, coming to us on certain plays, telling us in the huddle — boom, boom, ‘Just get open for me right here.’ "

A quote likes that goes beyond stats and point towards Orton have a much better grasp of whats going on and what we are trying to do in addition to the ability to execute both in the game and on the sideline .

As Ive said all along Matt is a good QB but Orton is much further ahead of him in his development even though Matt actually is older than Orton .We lose Matts athleticism but would gain Ortons deep ball ability as well .

by Willie Beamon on Jan 27, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions

see, I simply can't trust anyone who says "this" ;-)

Matt is a good QB

by upamtn on Jan 27, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions

I'm behind Orton and Stanzi for next year.

More on Stanzi because Orton can go wherever, no restrictions. Stanzi has potential.

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by GaryfromIA on Jan 26, 2012 4:24 PM CST reply actions

I see you're from Iowa

and I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’ve seen a lot of Stanzi to make the conclusion he has potential. However, none of us have really seen what his potential is at the pro level. I for one would like to see, but I can also see where he’s a career backup, just getting passed over for the next big thing.

by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 26, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions

We were a blocked field goal away from winning the division

Put Orton in there KC will reclaim the AFC West crown in 2012.

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by mistamic on Jan 26, 2012 4:52 PM CST reply actions

Or an INT thrown in the endzone...

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by MarineChiefsFan on Jan 28, 2012 5:26 PM CST up reply actions

or a dropped td pass prior to that pick

by Willie Beamon on Jan 29, 2012 2:57 AM CST up reply actions

The answer...sort of...

Tag Bowe, trade Bowe for multiple picks next year, draft Alshon Geffrey, take qb next year after our o-line has come around, if Stanzi doesn’t pan out.

by 12t on Jan 26, 2012 5:46 PM CST reply actions

Chris Mortenson on #NFL32

“Chiefs should sign Kyle Orton and let he and Cassel compete for the job.”

by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 26, 2012 5:47 PM CST reply actions

IOW

Sign Orton to start.

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by Tarkus on Jan 26, 2012 5:53 PM CST up reply actions

works for me

by upamtn on Jan 26, 2012 6:55 PM CST up reply actions

Works for me too.

by KCbo on Jan 27, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions

Vinny

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by trentchiefsfan on Jan 26, 2012 7:59 PM CST reply actions

RG3.

by kcchiefs2782 on Jan 26, 2012 10:22 PM CST via Android app reply actions

What has Stanzi got

How about this? Sign Orton and let him and Cassel compete for the starting job. Then sometime in the first 4-6 games, when they both have proven that the difference in how much they both suck isn’t very much, we put in Stanzi. We have to know if he can be the man to quarterback this team into the future. If Pioli and Crennel like what they see, great. If not, we will be in position to get one of the top qb’s in next years draft. At some point Stanzi is gonna have to get out there. Unless, of course our coach and GM have already decided that he isnt the guy, which may well be the case consideringthere has been absolutely no vote of confidence from either of them

by mumbles92054 on Jan 26, 2012 10:55 PM CST reply actions

Tyler Palko should start all 16 games

That way we would have the first draft pick and get the best QB next draft. There going to start Casshole and he is going to suck again.

by OJ In Nevada on Jan 26, 2012 11:25 PM CST reply actions

Payton Manning is the chiefs answer.

A defense thats fixin to be top 5. Weapons out the yin yang.Draft trent richardson 1st round.NT in second and sign nicks the pro bowl guard from NO and the Chiefs are a seriuos thret to win the super bowl.

by J ray on Jan 27, 2012 4:15 AM CST reply actions

I agree

I heard ESPN saying he doesn’t want a team to have to trade multiple picks for him. So I guess he is not going to push back his bonus date and I think force the colts cut him. If he is cut and another team goes after him then is his old contract (pay structure) void? So then you can deal a whole new one? Either way if you can go after him without giving up picks, KC needs to be extremely aggressive.

by MidMo Chiefs Fan on Jan 27, 2012 7:37 AM CST up reply actions

We don't keep both Cassel or Orton.

But draft another QB like Wheeden third day of the draft. Stanzi worries me as a backup if he cannot beat out Palko. Wheeden could be the backup and capable of starting if Cassel or Orton get hurt.

by Mustang fever on Jan 27, 2012 7:50 AM CST reply actions

Stanzi has the arm strength

you do have to cut him some slack with the lack of off season. Palko had been in the offense two full season and Stanzi only had essentially 5 months to catch up.

by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 27, 2012 9:03 AM CST up reply actions

why wouldn't we or couldn't we keep both Cassel and Orton?

that’s a “blanket statement” that makes no sense … Orton, Cassel, Stanzi

by upamtn on Jan 27, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions

I heard Weeden looked very Palkoish

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by NJChieffan16 on Jan 27, 2012 1:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

Moore is who got compared to Palko, not Weeden

He has been doing very well

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 27, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions

Noone says much about Russell Wilson

That guy is good, and plays with a lot of energy. Someone that would be a great backup to come in with a lot of ‘umph’ when the time calls.

Orton is just below a top tier QB, and given a year in a solid O, he might crack the ice. I’m not sure I get why he’s considered so mediocre, unless people are relying too much on his beginning years with some bad receivers. Trends definitely put him in a good light.

by MichaelMantastic on Jan 27, 2012 12:47 PM CST reply actions

good luck in new sales career ...

Orton is just below a top tier QB

by upamtn on Jan 27, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions

This is a fucking stupid poll

Yep, I’m being a troll. But no more than the guy who wrote this inane poll. The Chiefs have a PRO BOWL quarterback under contract. And yet there is NO option in the poll allowing them to keep him and use their draft choices for other purposes.

by Dagda on Jan 28, 2012 11:44 AM CST reply actions

Arrowhead Pride has not distinguished itself by the quality of its polls. That's true.

My best guess is that KC gives up their next 4 first round picks for RGlll who, Thomas Jones decides, needs a little “attitude adjustment”.

With RGlllll sidelined for the season with multiple broken hands, Cassel becomes the first Chiefs QB to win a playoff game since Montana. The 2013 offseason kicks off with multiple polls that force the participant to kick Cassell to the curb.

If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?

by electriclight on Jan 28, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions