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Noland Smith

Known as "Super Gnat" for his very small height and weight, probably the smallest-sized player in the AFL or NFL of his era, Smith was drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs in the sixth round of the 1967 AFL Draft. In his rookie season with the Chiefs in 1967, Smith led the American Football League in kickoff return yardage with 1360 yards. On December 17, 1967, Smith returned a kickoff 106 yards for a touchdown, still the longest kickoff return in Kansas City Chiefs history. Smith currently ranks 18th on the NFL's all-time kick return average List with 26.06 yards per return.

During his three seasons in the NFL with the Chiefs and 49ers, Smith was hardly ever used except for kick returns, with 63 punt returns for 635 yards and 1 touchdown and 82 kickoff returns for 2,137 yards and 1 touchdown, but only three rushing attempts for 6 yards, two pass receptions for 57 yards.

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I was watching my friend Hazam play Call to Duty. It seemed that any weapon was available to the soldiers in play. Some weapons worked better than others but it seemed maybe whichever weapon you selected had an affect on HOW you played. Myself, I would have picked a Sniper rifle and found a nice spot to pick off the enemy. Others might have got the best sub-machine gun and Shotgun and got in real close for kills.

The new Chiefs offensive-coordinator will have a large say on what weapons we need to attack those other teams on our schedule. A Big bruiser Running-back, a terrible twosome at Tight-End, a fleet footed Slot Wide Receiver. Re-signing Dwayne Bowe would give us depth in short range targets for whomever is the Chiefs 2012 Quarterback. Tony Moeaki and Steve Breaston are also mid range weapons.

Might a stretch the field as they say, take the "TOP" off the defense, choice be made? Does Size Matter? Javier Arenas and Dexter McCluster have roles to play on the starting offense and defense. The Chiefs should not feel set at returners if we are to have solid depth in all our playing groups.

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Orson Charles TE Georgia

Showcases the ability to sit into his stance as a blocker, fire off the ball low and extend his arms into contact. Displays good foot quickness and balance to get around blocks and seal. However, lacks ideal power into contact. Demonstrates a slight punch at times, but lack the natural power in his lower half to create a consistent push on contact. Demonstrates the ability to get around defenders and seal, but more of an seal guy only. Does have experience lining up in the backfield as an H-back/lead guy. Takes average angles into the open field and has only average power on contact. Showcases the ability to bend and keep his balance in pass protection. However struggles, to stick through contact, move his feet well when trying to mirror, and too often gives up a soft corner.

Impression: A gifted athlete who can create a lot of mismatches in the pass game. Should be able to improve as a route runner as well. Not quite as polished as Aaron Hernandez as an H-back coming out, but could end up playing a similar type role. from www.nationalfootballpost.com Scouting Report

Kendall Wright WR Baylor - Report (excellent read regarding shorter Wide Receivers in the draft)

All of this is not to suggest that shorter receivers can't succeed or that Wright has a higher chance of busting than a taller receiver would. After all, two of the game's best receivers are shorter than Wright's listed height: Carolina's Steve Smith and New England's Wes Welker. Unlike Wright, neither of those guys were highly regarded coming out of school. Smith was a 3rd round pick of the Panthers, and Welker was an undrafted free agent signed by the Chargers. That said, there is some reason to think that while he is rumored to be shooting up draft boards, the chances are slim that Wright's draft stock rises above the middle of the first round. from www.mockingthedraft.com


Excellent post from Durst and a nice comment from Durst that helps the Chiefs.

Four, is the average number of OTs drafted in the first round since 2001. This year, I have Mike Adams joining the big three OTs.

Only once in the last 10 years (2008) has no interior lineman been selected in the first round, however there were never more than two (except for postion changes later in career). This year David DeCastro is guaranteed to be a first round pick, and I have Peter Konz joining him, but he will have to hold off Cory Glenn, Michael Brewster, and likely LT to guard switch prospect Kelechi Osemele.

Prior to last year, there had been at least one TE selected in the first round every year since 2001. For that reason I guessed Kyle Rudolph would be selected in the first round despite a season ending injury. I was wrong.

Entering this season, it looked like it might be two years in a row without a first round TE...however, a pair of juniors have emerged, and it is very possible either Clemson's Dwayne Allen or Geogia's Orson Charles end up going in the first. I currently have Allen, Charles, and Coby Fleener all being selected as 2nd round picks.

For those about to Mock..... post here

I have posted this already: IMO Kendall Wright will NOT be a first round draft choice. Dan’s buddies at www.newerascouting.com begins their analysis of Wright like this :

"By today’s wide receiver standards, it is very rare to be less than six feet tall and a first-round draft pick. During the last decade, there were 41 wide receivers drafted in the first-round, and only six of those players were shorter than six feet. NFL scouts and coaches have an infatuation with height at the wide receiver position, and will usually give the edge to a taller wide receiver if he performs similarly in other areas."

Is this four-year starter worthy of being selected in the first round? They conclude yes, Wright "is worthy of being one of the rare first-round selections of a WR under six feet tall."

I study draft history and tendencies quite a bit, and I agree with their analysis, but not their conclusion.

IMO Kendall Wright will NOT be a first round draft choice.
by durst on Jan 20, 2012 2:28 PM PST reply actions

LaMichael James RB Oregon

- Looked more solidly built in 2011 compared to years past. Coaches say he added about 20-pounds to his 5-9 frame and looked more stable/compact because of it.

- Exhibits impressive fluidity and foot quickness when asked to pick this way through the line of scrimmage inside.

- Showcases the balance/lateral agility to quickly side step defenders, hit the cut back lane and accelerate quickly into the open field.

- Possesses a good feel for defenders around him, displaying natural vision inside and finding lanes quickly to get into daylight.

- Makes himself small inside when asked to finish his run. Will slither his way for additional yards with a low pad level both inside and out.

- Demonstrates a wide running base where he keeps his knees bent and is quickly able to change directions and reach top end speed. - NFP Scouting Report here

Does size Matter?

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I like Allen and Charles both.

And we definitely need depth at TE – but it is a depth pick, so I’d rather use a later round pick on a guy like Egnew than a first on either of these guys UNLESS we trade down. As for Wright, no thanks. Wright is fast, but I do think his height will hurt him in the pros. Needs – RT, NT, QB; Depth – S, OG, RB, TE. Let’s go shopping!

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by The Gentry on Jan 21, 2012 8:59 PM CST reply actions  

No 1st round pick involved here :)

2nd maybe, definitely a 3rd rounder needed for these picks

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 21, 2012 9:10 PM CST up reply actions  

So the Chiefs have WMD's?

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by LadyChief on Jan 21, 2012 9:02 PM CST reply actions  

yeah

Eric Berry David Mims

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by upamtn on Jan 21, 2012 9:03 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

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by LadyChief on Jan 21, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

WEAPONS!!! YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!

does size matter? wow, Steve … that’s one helluva question to ask here … where’s LadyChief and WorL4Chiefs when you need them? (angelic smile)

you betcha size matters … but, as Prof Mills might say, only to a degree … the point where it’s too much size is when it impedes mobility (of course, he’s talking about OLine, not RB’s)

I am SO locked in on the following: (1) DeCastro (2) Osemele (3) Antonio Allen … with both 2 and 3 subject to change (it’s one of those easy to pick locks) … but my dream scenario there finishes the OLine for the next 5 years, enabling us to work on other areas moving forward … and the OLine helps the passing game and the running game, and that’s a good thing :-)

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by upamtn on Jan 21, 2012 9:02 PM CST reply actions  

I could have added Dre Fitzpatrick

180 lbs Cornerback projects to the 1st but might slide to the 2nd now

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 21, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

wow!

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by upamtn on Jan 21, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Go Tigers!

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by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Go Tigers

2nd or 3rd in the country with 3 winnable games on tap

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I can safely say that, yes, size does indeed matter!

MIMS kind of size ;-)

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by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 8:47 PM CST up reply actions  

will you two get a room!

just let me know which one, I don’t want to miss the party ;-)

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Ummm...well....very good point Steve! LOL

I seem to recall an old saying…something about worms…something about wiggling…

lemme think… lol

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by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions  

David was a little guy and slew Goliath :)

the three guys highlighted have a size issue at their positions, yet were better than 75% or more of the players to choose from at their positions come the draft.

Jamaal Charles was a flyer, Dexter too

Do we have room for talent that is not deemed NFL caliber, or have we maxxed out on tweeners?

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

the eternal (or infernal) question
Do we have room for talent that is not deemed NFL caliber, or have we maxed out on tweeners?

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

ha! yup, totally agreed ...

LaMichael James would be fun, but I seriously would rather we finish building a KILLER OLine first (can you say DeCastro? sure, I know you could!)

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Solid RT & good blocking TE's - YES

Pope can’t run with the ball…gets penalties…and isn’t even that good a blocker.

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by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

3rd stringer

as he should be

We got 3rd stringers playing 2nd string and a few 2nd’s starting.

just need to re-arrange the roster

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not too impressed with O'Connell either

We really need a decent complement to Moeaki…and some decent depth.

Dang, the 45 yarder to Pope in the GB game…anyone else, that 10 yard cushion would’ve made it huge YAC…Pope ran like he had cement shoes

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by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

haha I thought the same thing how did he not score.

I dont like using the word hate, so I wont just cause he saved that kid in the pool other than that I dont like him as a football player for our team.

by the great thunderlips on Jan 22, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

He is a blocker

pressed into duty as a pass catcher. Was a nice play though

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I know ... Dwane Allen in 2nd if he's there, but doubtful he'll last that long

Fleener maybe, in the third … or this guy in Steve’s list

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

been thinking Osemele and Allen in 2 and 3 ...

but have been duly informed by someone in draft thread that Osemele has lead feet

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

and will shift to guard in the NFL

don’t need him and DeCastro, Allen and Fleener and Orson Charles are all knotted up as to who do you prefer

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:27 PM CST up reply actions  

What do you think of David Paulson (TE-Ducks)?

He looked pretty good to me, but then I freely admit I don’t know much.

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by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

We can pick him up from the 4th round onward

in fact most of the TE’s after the three above are all 4th round and beyond.

Till Pioli makes me a liar :)

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I get an image of Pat Paulson running for President

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Ron Paul

:)

Buy all the precious metals you can

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

do pennies count?

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

pre-something

has Copper content

worth 1.5 cents each

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, I was watching some Ducks highlights

and Paulson did nothing but make plays…block, catch nearly everything that came his way and break tackles for yards. But then it was highlights

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by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

sounds like some research is due on the guy

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

The scouting reports on him were noted he has

soft hands, good blocking, good size and were generally positive about him.

I started watching to look at their QB, and noticed the TE…why I looked him up

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by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Go G-Men!

man how I hate the Patriots … they remind of the Yankees

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

No kidding..I was hoping for a Harbaugh Bowl

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by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

and that would completely shattered the myth of needing an Elite QB to win the big games

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

but the ZBS scheme is about Maneuver rather than Braun

Smarter, Faster, Quicker is not prized in the NFL as an Offensive Lineman.

Yet we contemplate taking the best at 11-12.

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

And yet our O-line got flat out manhandled due to a couple of them being

under-sized.

I suppose one could make the argument for age slippage. (yikes…mid-late 30s is age slippage – makes me sad)

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by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

in our system, that's precisely what we prize and should take ... speed and smarts PLUS strength

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with shooting for an ideal there

Why not look for big along with speed, talent and smarts? :L)

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by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

and that's DeCastro

win win situation

now, will Pioli follow thru on it?

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Solder looked not so good today

I saw Castonzo on the sidelines too

Big does not always mean starters.

We have Barry Richardson to prove that point, who apparently kept Mims and Gaithers off the field this year.

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Aldon Smith looked damned good today

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

2 sacks?

Aldon Smith and the Linebackers had a nice game

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

o.0

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

weapons=playmakers and I remember Noland Smith very well. If I remember rightly

he was clothesline tackled and ended his time in KC, so size may play a part in the punishment a player is able to absorb and keep on ticking. I think the term now is “quick twitch” a very fast reaction time that allows players to avoid tackles or lessen impacts and usually seen in smaller guys. I am a big Mike Adams fan and feel he is the most ready to play tackle in the draft, but something is going on with him that created some concerns. I like the TE choice, but at RB Dago has Tolbert who would be a great duo with JC. I keep hoping we fill some needs in free agency so the draft can compliment what the team needs to address with less reach picks and maybe get best player available, who very well could be another weapon.

by dubld on Jan 22, 2012 7:43 AM CST reply actions  

A BPA draft at our draft spots would be not very happy on hitting some true needs

but it might be the best plan, takes the expectation of greatness (with a ton of grooming) out of the equation

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Good info, all, Steve - thanks!

Lost in the many discussions of late is the question about ST – I’ve not seen anything in the news or posts about whether the Chiefs may address that coordinator position after the big double-Seymour smack.

Anyone hear anything about that?

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by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 8:50 PM CST reply actions  

I didn't get to watch the game ... did he come in at the same spot both times ... or not?

or do you know … or does anyone? just curious …

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks

that says more than if he shifted sides … to wit: it’s on whoever was on that side of our OLine at the time(s) … someone mentioned Maneri

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

same area I think

Not sure that Hoffmann could have adjusted just cause it failed once.

besides the point it was not Hoffmann blocking

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

yup, and not the kind of thing one "expects" to happen twice

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

interesting ... in Shutdown Corner is this

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/vernon-davis-gets-flagged-awesome-end-zone-celebration-003931825.html

I was wondering why he was dancing and celebrating … granted it was a TD in a huge game, but when I saw it I was thinking “dude, you did what you get paid to do and awesome, but your team hasn’t won anything yet, certainly not the game”

nor did they … so what was he “celebrating” … thoughts? comments? just something that occurred to me (like most strange thoughts)

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 9:58 PM CST reply actions  

it wasnt a huge celebration, honestly I thought it was crap they called him on that.

and to say green bay jumping in the stands is ok cause it got grandfathered in? thats complete BS and not fair to the other 31 teams. he was off the field, he didnt use props just stood on the stand, he didnt use the ball.

let them freaking celebrate Touchdowns makes the game more fun to watch, sure its not the end of the game winner but its a touchdown its worth celebration especially in a playoff when it puts you up.

by the great thunderlips on Jan 22, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I tend to agree with you there, even though I do see the point in drawing a line with props

as well as not dancing on the other team’s logo…i.e. taunting

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by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

i agree no need to taunt or props like pulling out a cell phone you got hidden or marker

but other stuff thats funny or cool let em do it. I know I like to watch it, its entertainment and thats basically what football is all about when you think about it just entertainment.

by the great thunderlips on Jan 22, 2012 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree, it IS entertainment (though WE take it seriously) :-)

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

stood on a podium or stand?

yeah, seems innocuous enough … you know, it’s been called the No Fun League for things like that

nonetheless, as WorL just mentioned, there’s a fine line between celebrating and taunting or whatever … Ochocinco got nailed for the Sharpie (I think it was him) so if they say “no props” then no props it is

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I was close ... I had the Sharpie right ;-)

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by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

A Touchdown

I was wondering why the Lambeau Leap got grandfathered?

Davis really did nothing but mount a podium that was presented to him

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:04 PM CST reply actions  

those lips are Old School ------------------------------------------------------------------>>>>>>>>>>>>

Marcus Allen Old School … act like you’ve been there before

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

act like you been there before is boring.

these guys are young let them have fun too. like when neil smith would do his baseball bat swing when getting a sack every chiefs fan loved it, bet you didnt say act like you been there before on that.

by the great thunderlips on Jan 22, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

to be honest, I don't care much for any of that ...

and I’ve seen QB’s get sacked … then come right back and toss a TD pass on the very next play … for all the good that sack did

what that is, more than anything, is a player calling attention to himself “hey look at how great I am” … well dude, you get paid millions to do that very thing … so what, so you did your job

should a cashier at a McDonald’s do a celebration every time he or she successfully hands a sack of fries to a customer?

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

why of course

I could see a new marketing plan for McDonalds and you just gave it away!

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

if it takes off I should get royalties

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, I have to admit I did celebrate a bit last year when I redesigned a process and

saved my company a $200k penalty with it…just doin my job. :-)

I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...

by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

schweeeeeeeeeet! they should have given you at least 10% of that as a bonus

which you could then use to buy that Harley I’ve been craving (angelic smile)

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

If only...

I thought the same thing…unfortunately, they didn’t see it that way

I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...

by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 22, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

ah snap!

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

they do it all game long.

your idea of football is boring and lame, guess they should walk single file going to the field also? they shouldnt be talking on the sidelines either they should be dead quiet.

They are basically young adults, young adults like to have fun I would much rather them leave it on the field in some celebration than go out to bars in there own time to do there celebrating since they are restricted in your views to do any celebrating on the field.

by the great thunderlips on Jan 22, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

George Blanda was never young

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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jan 22, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

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