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Chiefs Vs. Broncos: The Best And The Worst

Well, that was a bittersweet ending to a wild and crazy Chiefs season.

Bitter because, like at the end of every Chiefs season, I realize it'll be nine months before I see my team in action once again.

Sweet because the Broncos continued their trend of wetting themselves on national television to conclude the regular season. Do you realize they've now lost four must-win regular season finales in the past six years (two at the hands of KC)?

Bitter because neither offense seemed poised to score points yesterday, let alone a touchdown, from the second quarter on, while I was forced to watch in a New Year's hangover paranormal state of mind.

Sweet because the Chiefs have bonafide momentum to begin the 2012 campaign, while I'm not sure any other AFC West team can say the same (barring a Broncos playoff miracle).

Bitter because the Chiefs are literally a blocked field goal away from preparing for a home playoff game at this very moment (not to mention a bonus week or four of Best/Worst coverage).

Wait, nobody came here to read the Bitters and the Sweets of yesterday's game. You came to read the damn Bests and Worsts (of yesterday, AND of the season).

Lets get at this like an uncalled Sabby Piscitelli Tamba Hali facemask...

The Best and Worst w/ His Dirkness:

Star-divide

Best man for the Chiefs head coaching gig - Big Papi, Romeo Crennel. I'm not in love with his past record. I'm not in love with his age. But Super Bowl howdy, am I in love with his defense. And I don't want to see it messed with. Is that a bad reason to want to stick with a head coach? I fear it's shortsighted, but hey so was the hiring of Frank Martin at K-State and he's worked out alright (the NFL and College Basketball work in the same ways right?). Following the bye week, this defense has put up stellar performances in 6 of 11 games (@Oak, Pitt, @Chi, GB, Oak, @Den). And they're young. They should get better. Find a long term nose tackle. Keep adding beef to the front line. Maybe add an inside linebacker (although I love Jovan Belcher's demeanor) or another cornerback (although Javier Arenas seems to get better every week). Oh yes, and retain Romeo Crennel.

Worst move the Chiefs could make now - Get rid of Dwayne Bowe. It was almost like yesterday's game was a sign from a higher power (No, no, not Tim Tebow. Frankly, I'd rather follow Tyler Palko at this point). Did you see the offense without D-Bowe in the game? After torching Chump Bailey for a half, showcasing his top-notch toe tap artistry once again, Bowe was lost to injury (nope, not the backwards foot incident that led to 53 Tebowers Tebowing). The offense became non-existent. I can't tell if there's people who actually want him gone or if it's just Chiefs pessimism coursing through their veins. But do whatever it is you have to do to sign him. Long term, franchise him, whatever. But make sure Dwayne Bowe is in a Chiefs uniform come 2012.

Best QB the Chiefs have right now - Kyle Orton. I was hoping he'd go nuts yesterday, leaving the Chiefs little choice with what to do going into next season. But he didn't. Maybe because the Chiefs thought they really didn't need anymore points the way Denver's offense was playing. Maybe because Bowe really is that important. But hag garnit, please don't make me go back to Mattiocre Cassel. PLEASE! We've seen that a real quarterback can throw downfield with this offense. It wasn't a lack of speed on the outside. It wasn't poor offensive line play. It was Cassel's complete lack of testicular fortitude. And please don't come at me with RGIII. It's. Not. Happening. Peyton Manning is a more realistic possibility at this point. However, with this defense, the (hopeful) return of a strong running game, and the promise of more Big Daddy Orton playaction fakes, count me in on Team Orton.

Worst Best/Worst interlude - Watching my Huskers fall apart at the seams against South Carolina. Yuck.

Best Denver Broncos stat - Kyle Orton is the franchise's all time leader in passing yards per game. Suck on that, John.

Worst sight to stare at with a hangover - Tim Tebow's cold sores.

Best two games of his career - Dexter McCluster, this week and last. Ever since I outspokenly declared my distaste for the guy (he fumbled, he didn't make plays, and he was always the guy to cap off poor offensive drives) he has become a legitimate threat for this team. Before these past two games, I would've been upset if he was on the roster come 2012, but now I'm all for moving foward with ol' Buster McCluster.

Worst chant in all of sports - In. Com. Plete. It celebrates nothingness. It's the only play of no consequence in football. It'd be like having a chant for a foul ball in baseball.

Worst mindset to take into big games with you - Those of conservative nature, i.e. the Broncos not attempting the field goal before half. It wasn't terrible strategy, but it's that overall fear of what could happen that leads to coming up short in big games.

Best team to root for in the Playoffs - San Francisco 49ers. Seeing a defensive team with a shaky QB win a Super Bowl would give all of Chiefs Nation some much-needed hope for the future. My actual pick? I'll say Saints over Ravens.

Best 10 Chiefs of the 2011 season -

1. Derrick Johnson - Finally matured. Seemed to make 2-3 game changing plays every single week.

2. Romeo Crennel - You have to wonder if the Chiefs would be in the playoffs had he replaced Todd before/after the Colts game.

3. Tamba Hali - Cemented himself as one of the top pass rushers in the NFL, even after getting his pay day.

4. Dwayne Bowe - His numbers don't reflect his dominance due to four games with Plinko at the helm. Pay this man.

5. Branden Albert - Don't get the sentiment of wanting to move him on down the line, he's rock solid right left where he is.

6. Brandon Carr - His ball skills are impressive enough that I think he'd make a successful NFL WR. The better Brandon. Pay this man.

7. Kendrick Lewis - Downright ecstatic to see he and Eric Berry together once again. Better tandem than Tongue and Woods?

8. Jackie Battle - His body was begging to get abused by the Chiefs this year, but Todd/Muir never obliged.

9. Steve Breaston - Provided what this offense needed most in 2010, a weapon opposite D-Bowe. He's The MagYAC Man.

10. Justin Houston - Gotta find room for my boy. Gives this defense a chance to be special in 2012.

Worst 5 Chiefs of the 2011 season -

1. Barry Richardson - Risked it this year with the hope that B-Rich would improve. He digressed. It was he who gave up the blocked field goal vs. Oakland.

2. Todd - You're a total asshat. Thanks for not playing Jared Gaither at all. Also responsible for Palko (who gets a pass from me because he should have never been playing).

3. Piscitelli Primavera - Anybody else see the play where he stood at the line unblocked, appearing to spy Tebow, but really not doing anything, a play that resulted in a completed third down pass? I did.

4. Thomas Jones - Ran hard the last few games. Respect his leadership. However, The Wasted Down's lack of production is just too noticeable to ignore.

5. Dick Stanzi (on the case!) - Couldn't beat out Tyler Palko.

Best part about the Kansas City Chiefs' 2011 season - It was seriously dramatic. I like to sit back at the end of every Chiefs season, look at it as a whole, and ask myself "If this were presented to me as a movie, would I be entertained?" The answer this season is an unequivocal yes. We were even treated to three separate acts this year: The Matt, Todd, and every good player we have has a torn ACL travesty, the complicating Todd and Tyler love tale, and the protagonists Romeo and Orton's triumphant conclusion to the season. Ups and downs, signings and firings, good guys and bad guys - Yup, just another season for our Kansas City CHIEFS!

It's been an absolute joy to write these Best/Worst's for all you Arrowhead Prideassions. I'd like to give thanks to Joel Thorman (you sly dog) for taking a chance on such a young, good looking man this season. I intend to be back next year, and hopefully throughout the offseason as well. In the meantime, I'll be chumming it up on my very own, recently-neglected website - HisDirkness.com - where I'll be keeping up on the rest of the NFL, College Basketball, and even some NBA (they don't call me Dirty Dirkness for nothing). With that, I'll conclude this Chiefs season the same way I've concluded every Chiefs season of my lifetime, with one simple belief - Next year is our year, baby.

His Dirkness

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The best: Season over
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by Chiefshero on Jan 2, 2012 6:07 PM CST reply actions  

What sort of O-Linemen are FAs this year anyway?

There’s usually 1 or 2 huge names out there but I haven’t done my research yet.

If we can get a Tackle in FA and draft DeCastro at 12 I’d consider that a highly productive offseason – or vice versa. (plus signing our own guys of course).

by BigRoz on Jan 2, 2012 6:09 PM CST reply actions  

Best addition to contributing this year, dirk.

Thoroughly enjoyed the wittiness and nicknames. Drop in something from time to time to hero the offseason lively

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 2, 2012 6:11 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

to hero keep the offseason lively

(subliminal. Your are my hero, dirk)

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 2, 2012 6:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

YES!

Move over Joe Delaney…

by HisDirkness on Jan 2, 2012 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't you think it's a little unfair to rank a 5th round pick in your Top 5 worst if they didn't play a single snap all year?

Oh, and, you’re wrong; Ricky Stanzi did beat out Palko once Romeo took over. So, obviously, it had more to do with the HC than his ability. There are plenty of other players that are more deserving of that spot than Stanzi. Rashard Langford for his coverage on two HUGE TD plays against Denver and Oakland at home should earn him a spot somewhere on that list, I think.

by jonnyu on Jan 2, 2012 6:11 PM CST reply actions  

I feel sorry for stanzi, not given a snap and being part of a huge controversy

Langford was good until that oakland game. We can blame him all we want but the offense deserves more

by Chiefshero on Jan 2, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget the first Denver game.

Langford will forever be on my sh*t list for allowing Tebow to complete on of this two passes for a 56 yard touchdown.

by jonnyu on Jan 2, 2012 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I did almost go Reshard

but then he made such a nice tackle on special teams this last game that I couldn’t find it in my heart. Stanzi was more about the jab than anything else, I’m sure he’ll get over appearing on my list.

by HisDirkness on Jan 2, 2012 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I really will miss these...........

this offseason

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by LadyChief on Jan 2, 2012 6:14 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

And where is Muir on that worst list???

It takes a special kind of poopiness to not be able to fall into the end zone more than once a game over a two month period. Hell, even Tebow prayed his way to paydirt more than that.

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 2, 2012 6:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I'd be willing to bet the Chargers are feeling a little momentum.

Maybe the Broncos too, because they’ve come a long way since last year. Come to think of it, everybody in the division ought to be pretty optimistic about next season. I think it’s going to be a lot of fun.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Jan 2, 2012 6:19 PM CST reply actions  

I agree with just about all this

except this:

Best QB the Chiefs have right now – Kyle Orton.

Yeah yeah yeah, he throws for almost 300 yards every game. He was handcuffed yesterday as soon as they realized he shouldn’t throwing when DBowe wasn’t out there. He had one really good game, one bad game and one awful game. He needs to move on from this team. He throws for yards, but he’s not a winner. Sorry. (Please note this is not a pro-Cassel statement, he’s just as bad in different ways).

Also Ricky Stanzi is still unknown, shouldn’t be on here since we never saw him play.

by Spiderwomn69 on Jan 2, 2012 6:20 PM CST reply actions  

No

Not sure how you gathered that at all from what I said. Since Todd Haley’s release I prefer to act as if Tyler Palko does not exist.

by Spiderwomn69 on Jan 3, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I will take Cassel > Orton

Not saying either is the ‘long term’ answer to the QB position.

by DivineGrace on Jan 2, 2012 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

That neither are the long term answer. If we have only 1 back Cassel is likely that guy. If we have both of them back…oy.

by Spiderwomn69 on Jan 3, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

The Chiefs probably received payback for that Phumble against SD

Just been that kind of season

When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.

Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.

CHIEFS WILL!

by NJChieffan16 on Jan 2, 2012 6:23 PM CST reply actions  

In our dreams...sure

When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.

Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.

CHIEFS WILL!

by NJChieffan16 on Jan 2, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Amen brother Dirkness!

I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...

by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 3, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm really either way on Orton

He’s probably our most talented and established option at QB, but hard to say if we can re-sign him. He didn’t blow me away, so I’m actually ok going into next year with Stanzi.

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 2, 2012 6:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Good grief . . .

I hope you do go with Stanzi, a fifth-round afterthought. I have yet to understand this thing some Chiefs fans have with Stanzi. Sounds like a poor man’s Tebow. lol

I love my wife.

by AZDynamics on Jan 2, 2012 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

That's like asking

whether you would rather date Nancy Pelosi instead of Rosanne Barr. I’m talking about your having a real QB. But whatever. I have no dog in this fight. As I said, I would just as soon you send Orton down the road. :)

I love my wife.

by AZDynamics on Jan 2, 2012 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Not all 5th round picks are equal

I was hoping to see Stanzi play some this year too, but just because Yates worked out doesn’t mean Stanzi would have.

by bh13 on Jan 2, 2012 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

That is very rare

and I think you know it. I don’t know about the Chiefs, but the Broncos have had tons of 5th, 6th, and 7th round QBs and a gaggle of UFAs. All turned out to be garbage. The Yates/Bradys don’t come along very often. There is a reason they are drafted in the lower rounds.

But whatever. At least, if the Chiefs do what you would like them to do, that would put a smile on my face and a beer in my mouth. ;)

I love my wife.

by AZDynamics on Jan 2, 2012 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

well we could 1) blame stanzi for sucking when he isn't given a chance or

2) give him a chance and see if he’s a brady/yates.

but hey why give him a chance, I mean look at brady. where would the pats be now if they didn’t take that substantial step?

by Chiefshero on Jan 2, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I think I'm the culprit. :)

I brought up Brady only because I knew someone else eventually would. It’s been the same addiction, just a different drug: gold fever to casino slot machines to the lottery. People hoping to find that pot at the end of the rainbow. So they’re willing to take shots at low-round QBs, hoping to find the next Brady. Such accidents are rare indeed.

I love my wife.

by AZDynamics on Jan 2, 2012 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Letting a proven QB go, hoping your untested fledging is another Brady

is like quitting your job to go prospect for gold. Would your wife let you do that? With mine, it would be a death wish. That is because she’s smarter than me. I’m hoping your organization is at least as dumb as I am . . . but, alas, I doubt it . . .

I love my wife.

by AZDynamics on Jan 2, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Of course with Yates

He benefits from having the best O line in the NFL. Palko would look fine behind that line giving the ball to Foster/Tate.

by BigRoz on Jan 2, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I dont understand it myself

He hasnt sniffed the field

When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.

Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.

CHIEFS WILL!

by NJChieffan16 on Jan 2, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

You should know from the Orton/Tebow debacle

The backup QB is the most popular player on the team. I personally would rather see what we have in him than go forward with the known possibly being red-zone deficient, bad decisions at the worst times Orton or just plain bad Cassel. Worst case: Stanzi sucks and we are in a position for a QB in the 2013 draft.

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 2, 2012 6:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I'd say it was a pretty good decision

when Bowe dropped the TD pass, wouldn’t you? Or are you going to let one RZ interception influence you?

Check it out: Before Orton came to the Broncos, he had one of the highest QBRs in the RZ, in the league. The difference is, he had Forté in Chicago and nobody in Denver. In other words, in the RZ you need a running game, and then the decisions come naturally. Next year, you will have Charles and Battle back. Is that a running game or what?

I love my wife.

by AZDynamics on Jan 2, 2012 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

And hopefully McClain

Along with an OC that will run him more.

by bh13 on Jan 2, 2012 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

People seem to forget that there is another piece to the QB puzzle. Its our WR, and besides Bowe, there wasnt much seperation from them. Next year Baldwin should be more developed and the run game should help take pressure off the pass, not to mention Tony. I am for keeping Orton and havving Stanzi back him for now

by TheScreenName on Jan 2, 2012 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you serious?

There is plenty of WR talent on this roster in Bowe, Breaston and Baldwin. Sure Moeaki was hurt, but there was certainly talent there to catch passes.

by polodude017 on Jan 2, 2012 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Talent yes

Baldwin hasnt reached his full potential, and if so, show me a game where he dominated. But I never said talent anyways, you did. I said there wasnt seperation and that is caused from a number of things like lack of run game, lack of TE, lack of receivers making it happen.

by TheScreenName on Jan 2, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Breaston was fine, it wasn't just Bowe out there.

And while I think the lack of a run game hurt the pass game, and vice a versa, I don’t think the lack of a run game had a direct effect on “the lack of separation” by the receivers. I had more problems with the playcalling and Cassel’s inability to get the ball down the field early in the season.

by polodude017 on Jan 2, 2012 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Go back and review the game

Once Bowe left the game, the coverage on KC’s receivers was phenomenal. It was like the Broncos had Bailey, Revis, Reed, and Asomugha in the same backfield at the same time. In fact, I have rarely seen such good defensive backfield play from both sides. I’m not sure Tom Brady’s accuracy would have been good enough in that game — on either side.

I love my wife.

by AZDynamics on Jan 3, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Which goes back to my original point

our receivers lack separation…We have a great receiving group, but other then Bowe, they lack separation. Breaston is a great slot receiver but not a solid # 2…Baldwin is still developing. We have a bright future, but the light isnt as bright as some like to think…..

Sometimes receivers make DBs look better then they should.. Broncos looked like they had Bailey,Revis,Reed, and Asomugha? Not hard to make them look that way considering we didnt have a #1 receiver and a solid # 2 in the game, plus a decent TE…

Bowe was making plays others were not….Point blank

by TheScreenName on Jan 4, 2012 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Give the Bronco DB's some cred...

How many crazy leaping/diving/tumbling passes defended did you see? That’s not all on the Chiefs’ receivers.

by sea_people on Jan 5, 2012 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

It was a long time ago.

I don’t know where now. They (and I don’t know who “they” were now) were comparing Orton’s RZ performance against Cutler’s before the trade, by statistics, and Orton walked all over Cutler in that one area. Orton was very efficient down there in Chicago. I’m sure it can still be dug up somewhere. Might be a good project for you if you have time. I don’t. Sorry.

I love my wife.

by AZDynamics on Jan 2, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember them talking about Cutler's RZ feebleness

But if you are basing this on Orton having better RZ production than Cutler, I don’t think that would be a great feat by any means. But I’m not saying you are wrong on his league ranking in that time frame. Maybe I will look that up sometime.

And I’m definitely not basing this on the one RZ INT. He led several drives down to the red zone and couldn’t convert them to TDs in the last three games. But it was a small sample size, so maybe I’m off base

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 2, 2012 7:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Just keep in mind

how many runs were stuffed down there in the last three games, and how many penalties they had to overcome. Even Josh McDaniels, when the press was grilling him about what they perceived as Orton’s failure to convert in the RZ, pointed to the running game, or the lack thereof. Unless you’re Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, you have got to be able to run in the RZ if you are to have any significant success.

I love my wife.

by AZDynamics on Jan 2, 2012 7:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I posted those numbers around here somewhere .I got them off of teamrankings.com

Ortons teams have been in the top 13 in the NFL the past 3/4 years despite changing teams and then losing weapons,and changing coaches over that span as well.

I havent found any actual evidence that says Orton is bad in the redzone.What Ive found is a pretty high standard of success even though he hasnt had any continuity the past 4 years .

For instance he had 17 redzone tds in 2009 throwing to Brandon Marshall and company and then they get rid of Marshall + there only pass catching TE and they let Casey come to us and put 3 rookies on the line .

At this point I cant say how good Orton actually is but the amount of much that is attached to him that is not actually pretty high Im discovering .

by Willie Beamon on Jan 2, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Except Stanzi can complete a pass

and throw running to his right, and…

Sounds like a poor man’s Tebow.

Actually, he sounds like a rich man’s Tebow!

It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.

by neiowakcfan on Jan 2, 2012 7:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the Broncos were watching the Chiefs play

THIS January. In Mile High. Not sure what the Broncos were doing, but it wasn’t balling. Good luck with Pittsburgh.

It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.

by neiowakcfan on Jan 2, 2012 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I had to post this...........

Providing COLOR commentary for Arrowhead Pride! AKA The Picture Diva!

by LadyChief on Jan 2, 2012 6:35 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

Virgin Tebow?

I guess you can get herpes from toilet seats…

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 2, 2012 6:42 PM CST reply actions  

You can get herpes from your mother

at birth. And since Tebow’s a virgin, (by his own admission) that HAS to be where he got those open running sores on his lips.

It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.

by neiowakcfan on Jan 2, 2012 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Umm..

Like these a lot but to say Carr is the better Brandon has me questioning if you were high when you wrote this. Carr is solid and much improved but Flowers is the better of the Two.

Also, blaming Stanzi for not beating out Palko? I could beat out (not off) Palko. Haley should be on list twice for not playing him over Palko.

by TheScreenName on Jan 2, 2012 6:48 PM CST reply actions  

What I would like to know is.................

Brian Waters played this year at a Pro Bowl level why was he not still a Chief? Jerad Gaither couldn’t even get on the field. With Barry Richardson playing right tackle, why not? Tyler Palko should not have been on any NFL roster let alone being the number two quarterback for the Chiefs. Why was such a miserable excuse for a quarterback the backup to Matt Cassel? Even with Palko failing spectacularly, Stanzi was not put in the game. I suspect it is because he had even less to offer than Tyler Palko. If that is so, why were two such inept players on the roster? Kind of makes you wonder about who evaluates the skill levels of the q-backs including Matt Cassel. Which brings me to why did we only have one quarterback on the roster who had a chance of hell in winning? How good is Matt Cassel exactly (I am currently leaning towards not very good)? Why was this offense such a joke (worst year ever for a Chiefs offense)? Who is minding the store? What is the front office going to do about no offense whatsoever?

"The Hammer"

by G.L. on Jan 2, 2012 6:49 PM CST reply actions  

Hindsight

Not going over well anymore

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 2, 2012 6:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

A team either learns from its mistakes or

it flounders forever in mediocrity. The front office has to have the above in mind if it wants to have a winning football team.

"The Hammer"

by G.L. on Jan 2, 2012 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

No team bats 1.000 on personel decisions.

It doesn’t happen. Mistakes will be made, live with it.

by polodude017 on Jan 2, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, I can live with it (although it sucks) because I

am not the idiot who is responsible for such piss poor decisions. So what you are saying is, having say the worst quarterback group in the league is just a miss on a personnel decision? Man I have been a fan of this team for a long time and I want better for it than that. Some people may be satisfied with mediocrity, I am not.

"The Hammer"

by G.L. on Jan 2, 2012 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

A few things.

1) If they are dumb enough to roll into next season with Palko as the primary backup, I’ll be right there with you. However I don’t think they will, hence learning from their mistakes.

2) You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think the lockout made a huge difference in how teams approached player acquisition last offseason.

This team has made a lot of good calls in personnel. It’s easy to focus on the bad ones, but there’s been tons of good ones.

by polodude017 on Jan 2, 2012 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Not a single person thought we had the worst quarterback group after 2010

No one expected the total regression to infant-status that Cassel endured this season. I hate when people talk like they just can’t fathom how the team would keep Cassel after last season, like they knew something the front office didn’t. Again, hindsight gets no respect

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 2, 2012 7:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I was one of those who thought Cassel was the guy.

By the time he was injured it was readily apparent he was not. We wasted four games with Palko as the quarterback. Palko will never play another down in the NFL. What I am saying is, we had a number one, and no capable backup. If Stanzi was “not ready” or whatever he should have been on the practice squad. Otherwise he should have been in the game. Like I said, I will give him the benefit of the doubt on the off chance he “can play”. But, we need to know where he stands or he needs to not be on the roster.

"The Hammer"

by G.L. on Jan 2, 2012 7:26 PM CST up reply actions  

He wasn't on the PS because someone definitely would have claimed him.

The thinking on Palko was that, with the lockout, it was better to have a guy who knew the system than a guy who didn’t. It didn’t work.

by polodude017 on Jan 2, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I think having him on the practice squad would have

been worth the risk so we could have had someone as the third quarterback who could play. What you say about having Palko on the roster because he knew the system makes some sense.

"The Hammer"

by G.L. on Jan 2, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Clearly the thinking was that Palko was that guy who "could play".

They obviously didn’t think Stanzi would be needed at all this year and would be safe on the active roster instead of the PS.

by polodude017 on Jan 2, 2012 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Who on God's green earth

would we have had as a third QB if Stanzi was on the practice squad? Brodie Croyle?

1. Cassel
2. Palko
3. Croyle

Wow, now you are making some sense.

It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.

by neiowakcfan on Jan 2, 2012 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

People wanted Croyle to get a shot over Cassel.

Then he got destroyed… again. People wanted him gone. Palko becomes the backup. He’s terrible. People want Stanzi… see where this is headed?

by polodude017 on Jan 2, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

As he should have been.

Now we just can’t let it happen again next season.

"The Hammer"

by G.L. on Jan 2, 2012 7:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly my point.

I think that had much more to do with his firing that anything involving the on-field play or wins and losses.

by polodude017 on Jan 2, 2012 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Waters

Because making the Pro-Bowl is as good an indicator of his level of play as how many hamburgers he can eat in one sitting.

by polodude017 on Jan 2, 2012 6:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Virtually everyone agrees Waters had a pretty

good year. We could have used some offensive line help.

"The Hammer"

by G.L. on Jan 2, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

You're gonna split hairs over a guy who has maybe a year or two left max?

It’s not like they cut some young guy who turned into a star. They cut the wrong vet, move on.

by polodude017 on Jan 2, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Not a lot of perennial pro-bowlers want to take a backup role.

They clearly decided Asamoah was ready and needed to pick between Waters and Lilja. I agree, in hindsight, it should have been Lilja to go, but I can understand the thinking at the time. It was the respectful thing to do to cut him loose and let him look for an opportunity elsewhere.

by polodude017 on Jan 2, 2012 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Who said he needed to be back up?

I dont mind the move, but I see why people do

by TheScreenName on Jan 2, 2012 7:21 PM CST up reply actions  

As I said above, they clearly decided they were going with Asamoah.

Leaving it up to a decision between Waters and Lilja. So someone was heading to the bench. And please don’t feed me this BS about one of them playing center, that wasn’t happening.

by polodude017 on Jan 2, 2012 7:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Palko didnt have much to offer AT ALL

so wouldnt it be in the teams best interest to at least see what Stanzi had? I think releasing waters, gaither, and not playing Stanzi was just a pure fuck up on our coaching staff and less on if they had talent. We had no depth ,and like you, I question that.

by TheScreenName on Jan 2, 2012 6:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I think exactly the same about Stanzi.

If the kid had something to offer, he should have been on the field before Palko had the chance to waste a quarter of the season.

"The Hammer"

by G.L. on Jan 2, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

OK, But I think he did have something to offer

I think he wasnt on field because of bad coaching judgement

by TheScreenName on Jan 2, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, thats what I want to know. Does Stanzi have

something and Haley was just a poor coach? I am willing to give Stanzi the benefit of the doubt if he can play. It appears to me if he doesn’t have anything he is a waste of a roster spot.

"The Hammer"

by G.L. on Jan 2, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

In preseason

Stanzi was hard to judge because it seemed when he was in the game, the line was not even there. My whole thinking though is if I am a coach and Palko wasnt getting the job done, what do I have to lose with Stanzi? I mean the fanbase obviously wanted him over Palko. It either shuts the fans up or helps a problem

by TheScreenName on Jan 2, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry to break it to you...

but I doubt the front office / coach / organization checks the polls on AP to decide what to do. The fanbase wanting palko doesn’t mean much and either does shutting the fans up.

by polodude017 on Jan 2, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry to break it to YOU

but AP isnt the only place they have to look to know people wanted Stanzi. Who said anything about them coming here to check the polls? You seem to put words in peoples mouths everytime you reply.

Broncos fans wanted Tebow and the front office heard loud and clear. They didnt need to go on a website to know that. I am not saying that is the reason they choose him over Orton, but do you really think he was throwing better then Orton in practice?

My whole point is when your starting QB is hurt, second string comes in. If the second string looks like shit, you put in the third string. Now, that third string QB might not perform better at practice or be as experienced ,but he might just be that spark that can ignite the team. And at the point in the season where all is lost, why not play the guy the fans want over a POS QB who nobody thinks has a future in the NFL, let alone be a starter.

Next time you want to reply, read what the person fucking wrote before you run at the mouth. Have a good year

by TheScreenName on Jan 3, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

YES!

Stanzi has something to offer. I know I’ve been castigated for spouting “college stats and accomplishments” with regard to Ricky, but I’ve yet to see anybody put up convincing numbers from all the future saviors in our QB position coming out of college without doing the same damn thing.

RGIII: Heisman. I get that.
Wilson: Too small, big ass Big Ten line that just got schooled by speed.
Luck: Good stats, but not FOUR ROUNDS AND FIRST OVERALL better.
Jones: Just plain needs to stay in school.

Keep looking boys, “franchise” QB’s aren’t exactly a dime a dozen. Maybe KC should try and develop what they have, eh?

It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.

by neiowakcfan on Jan 2, 2012 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Keep Cassel, Orton or both.

And see what’s there in the draft next year. Not sure what’s there in FA, but I doubt it’s any good (Flynn? meh).

by polodude017 on Jan 2, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Love to see them keep both...

but Orton sounds like he’s looking elsewhere, and Cassel is just a back-up masquerading as a starter…

got to have a third option. If Stanzi is not it, with Haley gone, now is the time to find out. Don’t think Haley ever considered the possibility - maybe Stanzi didn’t “condition well” in Haley’s bizarre version of the pre-season.

It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.

by neiowakcfan on Jan 2, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

All these people who like Stanzi

must SERIOUSLY hate Todd. I mean, I hate him and I think playing Stanzi would be a disaster.

by HisDirkness on Jan 2, 2012 7:06 PM CST reply actions  

You think, bring the operative words here

No one knows. I’m for finding out for sure in ’ 12. What do we have to lose? The “development” of Cassel? Get him in there to practice with the ones. See how he handles it. LOTS of snaps in the preseason (anti-Haley preseason plan) and ruin with it. Like I said, worst case is just like you said: he’s a disaster and we finish the season with Cassel and a high draft pick

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 2, 2012 7:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm more about thinking about who is on this roster

Not hoping we re-sign a player that may not want to be here. I know Orton was being professional in his talk to the media about it being “cassel’s team” and thanking the team for the opportunity like he is on his way out the door already, but I’m inclined just to assume he won’t be back.

Cassel or Stanzi? Known or Unknown? Noodle Arm or Pocket Rocket? Think about it

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Jan 2, 2012 7:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I have a feeling they know a LOT more about him that you do.

And what they’ve seen from him in practice probably indicates he’s not ready. I get the thinking, and it was painful to watch Palko, but I’m sure this team knows plenty about him that we’re not privy to.

by polodude017 on Jan 2, 2012 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Playing Stanzi would be a disaster?

How about STARTING Palko?

How’d that work out?

No reason this organization can’t try and develop a very good college QB on the roster with three years in a pro-style (albeit vanilla) offense in college, with the body and work ethic. Haley just threw him to the curb, whatever else was going on. RAC put him at #2 immediately, and any coach worth his salt, given Orton, Stanzi, and Palko, would do the same.

It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.

by neiowakcfan on Jan 2, 2012 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Berry and Lewis

better than Woods and Tongue???

by HisDirkness on Jan 2, 2012 7:06 PM CST reply actions  

Berry is on his way to being Great

Lewis is just as solid as Woods and Tongue(if not yet, soon will be). Also having Carr and Flowers makes the job get done a little easier.

by TheScreenName on Jan 2, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

When Berry returns our defensive backfield is

going to be top notch, maybe the best in the league (if we retain Carr).

"The Hammer"

by G.L. on Jan 2, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

You're wrong about Stanzi.

Didn’t you see him on the sidelines next to Orton??

Dude looked GOOD!

It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.

by neiowakcfan on Jan 2, 2012 7:31 PM CST reply actions  

Only compared to Orton

it’s confusing that a grown man could rock that haircut

by HisDirkness on Jan 2, 2012 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Stanzi is not a grown man.

He is an adolescent titan!

It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.

by neiowakcfan on Jan 2, 2012 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I am never going to say another bad thing

about Orton’s looks. I am beginning to like the dude…………lol……….. That probably means he will not be a Chief next year.

"The Hammer"

by G.L. on Jan 2, 2012 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha

that punch throwing, MVP winning, sunnovabitch

by HisDirkness on Jan 2, 2012 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Always a pleasure reading your posts

whether it makes any sense or not is another story haha

by urod69 on Jan 2, 2012 8:31 PM CST reply actions  

Gonna miss ya, Dirk. You really add something to AP.

lol at your Huskers :)

Best thing that could happen to Nebraska would be Osborne finally realizing that Pelini is a piss-poor example for young men to learn from.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 2, 2012 8:48 PM CST reply actions  

May the 49ers crash and burn in the first round.

Sorry, still have some unresolved hate issues with Jim Harbaugh. More first round playoff nightmares that I will eternally wish on all Harbaughs.

Time to face the brutal facts.

by H. Roe Chief on Jan 3, 2012 1:10 AM CST reply actions  

not even done reading...

rec’d for the cold sores…it was bothering me too!

by xfatdannx on Jan 3, 2012 6:35 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd! Loved the addition of Bitter / Sweet to this week's post!

Coming to it a day late, but it’s still totally worth the read! Thanks for the work you’ve done here this season!

I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...

by WorL4Chiefs on Jan 3, 2012 11:31 AM CST reply actions  

LMFAO at the cold sore comment

I was hoping it was only a busted lip.

I think Thomas Jones would have better success in Bodybuilder competitions than he is havin right now in the NFL!

by LookListenLearn on Jan 3, 2012 2:52 PM CST reply actions  

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