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Who surrounds Charles in the backfield next season?
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Best case scenario
McClain back at FB. Sign Ryan Grant. Draft a mid-late round RB like Vic Ballard.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
Ryan Grant seems like he's on the steady downhill
injury issues have marred his last season or two… he doesn’t have killer speed anyway. Is he worth being a change-of-pace guy to JC?
I liked Grant a lot with GB about 3 years ago… at this point he doesn’t seem like a huge upgrade over Thomas Jones sadly.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 19, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Three years ago he was a starter. Now he's a guy that would probably excel taking 200 carries/year/
He’s had a chance to get healthy now and has only touched the ball about 150 times over the last two years. He still has the burst to be a good compliment though and is a guy, like Thomas Jones(the first year anyway), that we don’t need a different set of plays for which helps the offense. He doesn’t have killer speed but he’s got good burst and he’s still a physical player.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 19, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
Nice take
and he has good hands if I recall – if he’s wicked good at blocking then maybe he is a good fit.
I would prefer someone like Green-Ellis (mentioned below) if I had the choice though.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 19, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
I like Green Ellis too
And considering the Patriots dont seem to value their RBs I could see them letting him walk.
"Give them nothing! But take from them everything!"
by GenericBrand on Jan 19, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
Ryan Grant
horrible Fantasy Football pick up. Sigh.
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
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he was one of my last picks this year, 13th round maybe… I’ll always take a gamble on someone like that in the late rounds, wasn’t sure if he’d carry a full load this year or not. I had him a few years back and he was a beast, so I probably had that in the back of my mind as well.
Pretty sure I had dropped him by week 2 or 3 though.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 19, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
Got him in a late late round… thought it was a good pick up. Nope. Also got him early on the year he busted up his leg. I’m done w/ him.
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
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Forget Grant. Sign Tolbert, if we can draw his interest.
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by GonzosDirtyTrailer on Jan 19, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
"Who surrounds Charles in the backfield next season?"
If we don’t upgrade our O-line…my answer would be the opposing Defense.
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
HeyOOOOOOO
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
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Green-Ellis
Former Indiana/Ole Miss RB. Runs hard and rarely fumbles the ball.
waiting for the Trent Richardson post to come though.
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
Twitter: @Mr_Hoosier
I was amazed when I heard about his fumbles
that the one he lost not long ago was actually the first one he lost in his career. That’s pretty damn impressive.
I’d love to have the Law Firm backing up JC.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 19, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Green-Ellis
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
Twitter: @Mr_Hoosier
Who surrounds Charles in the backfield?
Awesome and win
Jamaal Charles is here to kick ass and chew bubble gum; and he's all outta bubble gum.
by His Royal Greatness on Jan 19, 2012 12:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I love Bush
….
….
but seriously he would be one helluva follow up to JC on the field.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 19, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
I think we would have a better chance at Tolbert
since Bush proved he can carry the load. I wouldn’t be surprised if Oakland tried to re-sign him and unload McFadden since he can’t stay healthy
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006
Tolbert= Thiggys college homey
Like Tolberts “run your ass over” attitude. Plus he catches the ball surpirsingly well
Yeah
but SD will keep him. You know as well as I do that SD is the only true home for the elusive fatback. From Marion Butts to Natrone Means to Mike Tolbert. If you’re a fatback not name Jerome Bettis, SD is your home.
Tebow might know Jesus, but Bill Muir is old enough to have actually babysat him in the manger.
If they unload McFadden...
It would be pretty sweet to have a Charles/McFadden backfield….unfortunately this will never happen.
Arrowhead pride addict
by groundedchevy on Jan 19, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
That would be the Marcus Allen fiasco all over again for them
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i would like michael bush or peyton hillis
mcclain would be good too
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
whats the deal with ray rice and arian foster I heard they could be free agents
but will probably get tagged
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
They both have expired contracts
But, Foster is still restricted and Rice will likely get tagged same with Forte if they don’t both get contracts before they have to use the tag
Shaun Draughn? did not realize this guy was on the team. Looked him up could be interesting.
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by porkchop_sandwiches on Jan 19, 2012 1:06 PM CST reply actions
yeah he never got a shot to play this year
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 19, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
Chris Polk
I like that kid, but he might go as early as the 2nd.
Otherwise Green Ellis, Bush and even Tolbert would be interresting.
I say “even” Tolbert because he is not interchangeable with Charles, he is probably an inside only guy.
by Johannes Josefsen on Jan 19, 2012 1:06 PM CST reply actions
McCluster & Tolbert
They can handle 150 carries each, still leave 250 for Charles.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Peyton hillis
he wants out of cleveland
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
We don't want that kind of locker room cancer
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 19, 2012 1:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
peyton hillis isn't a cancer
he’s worth a look if we can get him
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 19, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Are you fucking crazy?
Faking injuries and illness midseason because he wanted a new contract? Dude makes LJ look like Will Shields. And all of that is before you factor in how average Hillis is. Battle > Hillis
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 19, 2012 1:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
so do u think any team will pick up peyton hillis
he oviously isn’t getting signed in cleveland
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
by niageriannit1 on Jan 19, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
Cincy seems a likely destination
He won’t be going to KC
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Worse Cleveland teammate.....
Hillis or Delonte West?
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 19, 2012 1:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Didn't West bang BronBron's mom?
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
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That he did
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 19, 2012 1:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
While yelling "take this to south beach"
Tebow might know Jesus, but Bill Muir is old enough to have actually babysat him in the manger.
O/T
I just heard a clicking noise. I think my boss tapped my bag phone.
I don't have a catchy, catch phrase.
It depends on who your boss is...
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
Hopefully not
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 19, 2012 1:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Guess my list of worries differs from you guys
Priorities for me are Running Back, Nose Tackle, then Offensive Lineman
who got more tread left TJ or LT
????????????
will the chiefs ever draft a Qb in the first round, not since todd blackledge in 83. and the chiefs could of had marino. OH well atleast 65 toss power trap worked for KC, it should be wide open red. Hank stram still the man.
Marshawn and LaMichael James
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by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 19, 2012 1:16 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Marshawn likely still wants to be a #1 somewhere
and even though I always count him out he puts up some beastly runs and makes me shut my mouf.
Hold my diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!
by Ochophosphate on Jan 19, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
Grill Piece would get a genuine 1b role here splitting carries even with JC.
Tebow might know Jesus, but Bill Muir is old enough to have actually babysat him in the manger.
Not even a backup
Jackie Battle has done little to nothing as a Chief and will turn 29 at some for next season. RBs are not wine, they rarely get better with age. For all the talk about Battle being great on special teams, he has totaled 15 tackles over his 5 year career and doesn’t return kicks. I would rather drop Battle and keep the roster space to carry another TE, WR, or CB (preferably a TE).
Battle barely has any tread on the tires
and he can play FB too
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
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4.0 YPC from a backup forced to start is pretty good.
Especially when your passing game sucks most of the year.
He'll be on the street if we need him
I don’t see a lot of teams lining up for Battle’s services. If we get desperate for a RB next season, we should be able to sign him off the street. McClain and Bush (who I want as a FA) can both play RB/FB at a higher level than Battle and we will have Bannon on the practice squad if we need a backup. Battle is eating a roster spot that could go to someone who offers more to the team.
Not to belabor the point
It’s not that I don’t like him (after all, I don’t know him). I just haven’t seen anything from him that makes me think he offers much to the team.
Options
Bush, Snelling, or Tolbert top the list of FAs that might not get re-signed or tagged. From the draft, I don’t see us using higher than a 5th round pick and targeting Ballard from Miss. State. or bolden from Mississippi.
Bush or Tolbert would be the best signings
Since they’re good AND we’d be taking them away from division opponents. Of the two, I’d rather have MIchael Bush.
I like Bernard Pierce..
6-0..218lbs of out Temple.. roughly 3rd Rd Pick. rushed for 1481 yards this year. Power with nimble…
But if Orson Charles is still there...
I would take Charles in 3rd..and go after Vic Ballard ..Miss State in the 4th..In all fairness Charles is only 6-2..(not 6-3..so I’ve read)..so he might drop..
He might be
If so, I’d consider Chris Polk (RB – Washington), Nick Toon (WR – Wisoncsin) or even Weeden (QB – Ok. State) ahead of Pierce (although I wouldn’t be upset if Pioli thought Pierce was better than the above players.
Would not take Richardson
Not cuz he isn’t a beast, but most RBs decline after 3 or 4 years. JC and Bush would be a deadly combo…then draft another RB. I have a feeling we will be drafting a RB, TE, and QB every year.
I wouldn't worry about a quick decline
considering that he’d be sharing carries. I wouldn’t be upset with the Richardson pick, but I’d rather take a trade down & have an extra pick in the 2nd or 3rd. The problem with taking a RB that early is that you’d be marginalizing McCluster’s role.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Trent doesn't have a lot of tread on his tires coming out of college
Only one year starting, timeshare with Ingram before as a backup, then in the Nfl would share with JC I think that could have him last longer then the norm for running backs.
Much rather trade back and draft him and only if Decastro isnt there.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 19, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
Trent Richardson. Period. Point. Blank!
Imagine our offense w those two studs!! Yea yea we need oline! I agree but this guy is going to be beastin on fools!! Wat if Charles gets injured again? We can always get oline in free agency just sayin
by Chiefsallday25 on Jan 19, 2012 2:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions
You can say the same about a RB
We can always get oline in free agency just sayin
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If we draft Richardson
say goodbye to Bowe…with those 2 backs and Moeaki coming back…Pioli won’t pay him…The Pats never really had an elite WR, so I’m sure Pioli doesn’t think he needs one.
Brady made up for the lack of WR talent
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
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Trent Richardson.
Jamaal Charles is a 195 pound running back coming off a major knee injury who has never carried in ball more than 230 times in a season as a pro. If Trent Richardson falls to them he would be the best player available. Thomas Jones is at the end of his career and Jamaal Charles is coming off a serious injury. Running backs slide in the draft, but Richardson is a special talent and too good for Kansas City to pass on. In 2011, Richardson had 24 total touchdowns (21 rushing, three receiving). He also ran for 1,679 yards, averaging 5.9 yards per carry. Richardson caught 29 passes for 338 yards and three touchdowns as well.
Trent Richardson is a good back comings out of college
But can our offensive line block for him, remember JC found holes when there were none even before he got injuried with our line and jones not doing much of nothing, teams were loading the box and there was negative yardage, and Richardson is a different kind of back , north, south if the line does not open holes he will just be a good back with about 3yd per carry avg waiting for that one time he could break one, and we are back to the question of QB.
With Brees,Brady,Eli,Cam,and all the other elite QB,s who can put up 35 to 40 point a game.
I agree with the people that say the game is changing pass first , run second, It all starts with our two lines, opening holes,offense and stopping the run and a good pass rush for our defense
Lot of good running backs this year.
Fit what we do, I really like Doug Martin from Boise State and wouldn’t mind him in the 3rd or 4th.
If we draft Richardson that would be awesome but after giving Charles a big contract I dont know of we’d be so quick to pay for another one.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
Is this really a need?
Jamaal will get the lions share, DexMex and (hopefully) LeRon will get a handfull, there really isn’t a need to spend even a midround draft pick on one.
by craig in calgary on Jan 19, 2012 2:27 PM CST reply actions
One or all of them may not make it through 16 games
but they have a better shot at it if they have someone else carrying some of the load.
I’ll bet Pioli pulls the trigger on a back in the 3rd round or later.
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Jan 19, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
Jamaal might not be back to form
He did mess his knee up, that tends to effect running backs like JC.
I hope not but I’m just saying.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 19, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
Trent Richardson? Peyton Hillis? LaMichael James?
There are options and we definitely need to pursue at least one of them.
by bamachief5558 on Jan 19, 2012 3:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Green-Ellis would be the perfect compliment to Charles IMO
With Battle, McCluster and McClain…. that would be a very good backfield
Dam when are we going to get a coach, Iny just fired their coach and who knows?
How many more, teams will need a championship caliber OC?, we certainly do
Who is able to call plays and get the ball down the field in chunks at a time so these high powered offenses we play don’t just blow us out in the first quarter like 28 to 0 or maybe 35 to 3, all by air, even Smith for the niners was a first round pick it may have taken him a while and the right coach, where are they now one game from the Super bowl first year with the new coach, and the last time we played the niners was year before last and Vernon Davis was talking trash and we blew them out and he was crying not because of joy,but because he got his butt handed to him and his team!, just one year later look at them now got that Simple minded coach out Mr. Chicago bear and look at them now.
This should be the Chiefs, What is POPO waiting on the NFL is only so big, is he going to Canada are something, we talk of the Players but what are they going to do, coach themselves, all the BS about the non-football side of the Chiefs nothing is coming to us from the front office, is he trying to cover his ass or something, Dam if they don’t like working for the Chiefs organization than quit and get another job so this so called GM can get back to work!!!!!!!!
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