Rounding Up The Kansas City Chiefs Free Agents
by Joel Thorman on Jan 19, 2012 8:02 AM CST
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It was free agency day around here yesterday as we went through all of the Kansas City Chiefs 22 free-agents-to-be and determined who the Chiefs must keep, who they should keep if it makes sense and who shouldn't be a priority.
Here's the list I came up with (click on the link for the analysis):
Must keep: LB Jovan Belcher (RFA), CB Brandon Carr and WR Dwayne Bowe
Keep if it makes sense: S Reshard Langford (ERFA), QB Kyle Orton, RB Jackie Battle, FB Le'Ron McClain, TE Leonard Pope, DE Wallace Gilberry, DL Amon Gordon, DT Kelly Gregg, CB Travis Daniels and S Jon McGraw.
Not a priority: QB Tyler Palko (ERFA), TE Jake O'Connell (RFA), RB Thomas Jones, WR Jerheme Urban, TE Anthony Becht, OT Ryan O'Callaghan, OT Barry Richardson, C Casey Wiegmann and S Sabby Piscitelli.
I think most of the disagreement I've seen comes from folks switching up the must keep and keep if it makes sense groups. Others thought O'Callaghan or Richardson should be on the keep if it makes sense list.
So out of the 22 free agents, how many do you think will be back next year? Remember there will be surprise cuts, guys signed in free agency and of course the draft.
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hopefully 8
We can find talent elsewhere then bringing back most of these guys.
by Brendon on Jan 19, 2012 8:04 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I'm going with 12
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6-10.
And the surprise keep will be…………………..
Sabby Piscitelli. I will not be surprised if he sticks around another year.
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I feel sorry for anyone driving home around 3:30 PM on 435 NB MO-side the day that happens
Because I will be having a VERY bad day.
I see no reason why Barry Richardson shouldn't be brought back
He’d be a great swing tackle until Mims and/or Maneri develop. That doesn’t mean an alternative couldn’t be found.
I don't see Maneri developing into a starter
but, I kinda like him as the extra TE/OT for short yardage
We have different definitions of the term "great swing tackle"
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by nateforchiefs on Jan 19, 2012 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
A former starter with good experience at both LOT and ROT?
Richardson can get you through a stretch of games at both positions. You can’t have 1st round draft choices backing up every position. Let’s be real, here, please.
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Richardson is a beast at runblocking. Solid third tackle option for short yardage. Remember when we went 10-6? Nobody complained about him then.
by Brendon on Jan 19, 2012 9:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Lots of people were complaining about him then
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I still did.
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by nateforchiefs on Jan 19, 2012 9:31 AM CST up reply actions
People were constantly complaining about him. Hell, offensive tackle was one of the most popular choices for the Chiefs in mock drafts last year.
And here’s a hint, nobody wanted to take a tackle in order to bench Branden Albert.
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Bring back Richardson
I think he would be Greg depth at tackle in case of injury. H is the type of player you keep to build depth
by Chiefs fan in ST Louis on Jan 19, 2012 9:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
orton in my opinion is mandatory to keep
I will even go on a limb and say he alone is the most important signing of the off season I have seen enough of cassel that tells me he is not the answer in kc. Orton brings this team to another level when he is in their he is a must sign if we plan on going to the playoffs in the future.
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Jan 19, 2012 8:32 AM CST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
Love the idea
I just hope Pioli isn’t stuck on Cassel.
Orton is obviously the WAY better choice.
How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 19, 2012 8:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's what I'm afraid of.
I truly think Pioli will stuck with Cassel. Hpefull Romeo can talk him out of it though. Both will be fired in 2 years if they stick with Cassel.
I don't have a catchy, catch phrase.
Not that I don't agree
But let me play devils advocate. Look past the Green Bay game… How much better did Orton do than Cassel? Seriously?
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Jan 19, 2012 11:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ortons average game is a good game for Cassel
and Ortons bad games are better than Cassels average games
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But numbers don’t back that….
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Jan 19, 2012 12:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Umm look at the stats for the 3 games Orton played for us
and look at Cassels, the only good game he had was against the Colts
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Did you watch the offense?? At all??
At least we moved the ball downfield….
Talk about your plenty, talk about your ills/
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by go_saleaumua on Jan 19, 2012 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Not that I don't agree
But let me play devils advocate. Look past the Green Bay game… How much better did Orton do than Cassel? Seriously?
WHEW!!!!!!!
by Chieffan_Toby on Jan 19, 2012 12:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'll green that
but I won’t put Orton in the “most important signing” of the off-season. I think KC needs him to make the QB competition much more competitive, and I think Orton would win it, obviously.
But I really want to see Carr signed; that kind of CB tandem is so rare. Plus, we must keep Bowe. He’s a beast and can, hopefully, get past the critical drops.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
by neiowakcfan on Jan 19, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
No more than 6-7
If it’s more we have problems.
We need some serious talent turnover on our roster….mostly at the depth positions.
How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn
by Matt_Grbac on Jan 19, 2012 8:32 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I'll take the over
9 (hopefully 10): Belcher, Carr, Bowe, Battle, McClain, Gilberry, Gordon, McGraw, Richardson, and (here’s the hopefully) Orton.
Belcher was decent this year. Unless we draft an ILB in the high rights, I see a solid Belcher v Siler training camp battle for the starting role.
Battle was serviceable. I’m hoping he’s third on the depth chart behand an FA or draftee. I also think they value his ST play.
Gilberry, Gordon, McGraw, and Richardson are depth players.
I agree with most of yours.
I’d like us to keep Len Pope. He’s a good blocker and can occasionally shock everyone by catching a pass. But, like Battle, he should be 3rd on the depth chart behind a FA or draftee.
If we don’t trade Dorsey, Gilberry is probably expendable. Especially if they draft another DE, which, based on what we’ve seen from Pioli, they probably will.
Also, we should only keep Richardson as a swing tackle, and we get a FA or a mid-high rd draft pick to take over at RT.
Why hasn't Shitty Piscetelli been cut already?
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by ChiefsatWar on Jan 19, 2012 8:42 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Can't cut someone who doesn't have a contract
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006
Sign him just to get the satisfaction of cutting him.
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by nateforchiefs on Jan 19, 2012 9:31 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Only 1 will be back..
Palko as the starter!
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
I wouldn't let Palko start my car.
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
He can start the microwave though.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, Bowe, Orton, McClain, Gordon(in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
The only starting he should be doing at Arrowhead
is starting the wave in the stands
Todd Haley lost 7 of his last 15 games by 20 or more points. It was time for him to go.
by joplin chiefs fan on Jan 19, 2012 8:56 AM CST up reply actions
The "wave" he needs to be doing is goodbye.
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
Or rather starting his car to leave
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 19, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions
He can start the microwave at one of the concession stands.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, Bowe, Orton, McClain, Gordon(in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
Get him ....
a reflector jacket and a glow stick and place him in the parking lot directing traffic!
Max: Two days ago, I saw a vehicle that would haul that tanker. You want to get out of here? You talk to me.
I'm sure Palko..
Would screw that up too…
by JQuest on Jan 19, 2012 9:00 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
I would let Palko start my car
if I were a crime boss…
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
by neiowakcfan on Jan 19, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
Resign
Carr
Bowe
McClain
Orton
Gilberry
Barry awful Richardson (for depth)
Belcher
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by ChiefsatWar on Jan 19, 2012 8:46 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I have a feeling we've seen the last of Carr as a Chief.
Not saying I think we shouldn’t keep him. Just that I don’t think we will.
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
Hey I am over here in Camp TRADE CASSEL
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by ChiefsatWar on Jan 19, 2012 8:48 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I'll give you a conditional bologna sandwich for him.
It comes with mayo if he passes for 3500 yards.
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anyone got a good link
For a round up of league-wide free agents?
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Jan 19, 2012 8:49 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Seems decent.
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/39667/59/nfl-free-agent-master-list
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thank you sir
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Jan 19, 2012 8:56 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
wow thats a pretty deep group
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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Jan 19, 2012 9:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I happened to notice a certain WR they had being franchised too..
Not sure why they don’t think DeSean would get the tag though.
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The Eagles are already stacked with recievers who didn't quit on them last year. Plus Maclin's definitely a legit #1.
If I were them, I’d only tag him if I thought I could get a good trade for him.
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Maclin
Hardly a legit #1. Very good #2.
Fire Scott Pioli + hire Captain Hindsight = Superbowl.
by JayhawksNChiefs on Jan 19, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Rotoworld.com always has great stuff
They always provide solid insight, they never buy into hype without sound logic and have well rounded analysis in their breakdown of players and team acquisitions!
Another list from Walter Football.
"Hater" is a term used by weak-minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
My I'm setting the over/under at 10...
There’s going to be guys we want and guys we don’t. That much is clear.
Out of the 22:
Carr or Bowe (no, I don’t think we keep both and I’m sick of hearing “But we’ve got the money!” Take a dose of reality, gang. This isn’t out a Patriots type organization works.
Belcher
Langford
Battle
Pope
Gordon
Daniels
McGraw
McClain
Richardson
And there’s a good chance we see 2 more, probably Gregg and Gilberry.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, Bowe, Orton, McClain, Gordon(in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
What are the cap numbers like?
Just curious. If we do have plenty of space, then I don’t see why keeping both Carr and Bowe would be so out of the question.
Bowe will be wanting (and should get) top dollar.
Carr is a different issue. I don’t think he’ll ask for more than Flowers ($50.6/6yrs, $20 guaranteed). I think he knows Flowers is better and deserves more money. If I’m right about that, then I don’t think it’s out of the question to keep them both.
Bowe and Carr co-existing?
It’s not about whether we have cap space or not. It’s about whether or not we franchise one or the other. If we franchise Bowe, I think we keep Carr. If we franchise Carr, I’m not sure if Bowe would be willing to stay put and settle for a long term contract in KC or test FA elsewhere to see if he could land a larger contract with a better team. That said, I believe if he tests FA the Chiefs have the ability to match other contracts but I think the Chiefs would let him go in this situation.
Carr knows he has a good thing going on defense with a healthy Brandon Flowers and Eric Berry in the backfield with Kendrick Lewis providing additional depth at the Safety position. I see him staying one way or the other.
This is sort of what I'm saying
Carr probably (or at least probably should) like the situation here for the reasons you just said. I don’t think he’ll ask for more money than Flowers, so I don’t think the franchise tag needs to be used on Carr.
If that’s the case, then the tag can be used on Bowe. This way we keep them both.
Exactly
And the tag costs roughly the same to use on either Bowe or Carr, but the tag would give Carr more money in one season than he would likely receive via a long term contract. Therefore, makes more sense to use the franchise tag on Bowe if the plan is to sign him big money to a long term contract anyway next season.
The only way we keep them both for 2012 is if one is signed and the other is franchised.
But even then, that’s not a guarantee. It’s an issue of money, but not the way you think. It’s an issue of how much money could Carr demand on the free agent market. You say “Carr won’t ask for a bunch of money.” I say, “Bullshit”. He’s a football player looking for financial security for himself and his family (he said as much on the radio last week). If he makes it to FA and can test the market, someone will probably through some money at him (Detroit?) and it will be more than the Chiefs are willing to spend. I think the problem here with Carr is that we had the opportunity to get a deal done much cheaper than it will now be. Carr would rather test free agency right now than commit to a contract. And I don’t blame him. If Pioli wanted to lock this guy up, he should have done it early this year. Now he’ll pay for it, one way or another.
Now, is he worth #1 CB money? Not to us, but probably to somebody. Remember, his stats aren’t that much different than Flowers’ stats. They really aren’t. Right now, he’s the best #2 CB in football (IMHO) and he’s going to get paid by someone to be a #1.
So Pioli should focus on Bowe if he really wants to sign one of these guys and then franchise Carr and listen to trade offers if they get made. Either of these guys would be worth a tag-and-trade deal. Especially if it’s two for one. This is actually a great position for the Chiefs to be in. They’ve got talent other teams might want, which allows them to stockpile picks and get more and more talent in the draft. Plus they have the cap space to sign a few key free agents. Of course a tag-and-trade is only acceptable this year if we get it done before the Draft.
The monkey wrench in all of this could be that he doesn’t want Bowe and wants to try for one of the FA WRs to replace Bowe with a Colston or one of the Jackson’s. Then he might very well go for a long term deal with Carr and make sure this defense maintains solidity. Either way, I foresee one of these players not being in a Chiefs uni next year. Personally, I’d rather have Carr than Bowe.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, Bowe, Orton, McClain, Gordon(in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
by Falcon58 on Jan 19, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But what if he knows what some of us suspect?
That Carr is actually better than Flowers? 6’0" 200 lb. corners that can play like that are pretty darn rare.
He tests FA and gets #1 money offers, it’s time to franchise him. Better yet, offer him top money right the frank now.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
by neiowakcfan on Jan 19, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
10
Bowe
Carr
Battle
Gregg
Gordon
Richardson…only as DEPTH.
Siler>Belcher…give me Siler and hopefully a ILB in the 1st or 2nd round to compete
MacGraw should be the third safety as a backup
McClain
Battle…solid special teamer and 3rd behind Charles and TBA…
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Chiefs 2012 Record will be 12-4, AFC West Champs!!
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Team Zing!
Hopefully too...Cassel vs. Orton will be the talk of this years training camp.
Gregg would be a solid NT behind TBA and Powe
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Chiefs 2012 Record will be 12-4, AFC West Champs!!
BJ Penn, the best P4P fighter on the planet.
Chael Sonnen is the savior of the UFC MW divison.
Team Zing!
Mediocre vs. Average. Yeah...can't wait.
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
Behind
Brady, Brees, Rogers, and E. Manning who are the elite QB’s. Then you have big Ben, Shaub, Vick, Rivers. I’d say Orton falls into somewhere in the top 15. Cassel is still in the top 25 easily.
Fire Scott Pioli + hire Captain Hindsight = Superbowl.
by JayhawksNChiefs on Jan 19, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
Would...
Flacco OR Smith be considered mediocre or average? I’d tend to think so.
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Chiefs 2012 Record will be 12-4, AFC West Champs!!
BJ Penn, the best P4P fighter on the planet.
Chael Sonnen is the savior of the UFC MW divison.
Team Zing!
If we keep Cassel...
it should just be on the sideline!
I can’t wait to see what free agency acquisitions we land…who are you hoping for?
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by ChiefsatWar on Jan 19, 2012 9:11 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I like how you refer to Cassel as "it" should be on the sideline haha
“It rubs the lotion on its skin. It does this whenever it is told…or else it gets the hose again.”
Dang!
Say it, don’t spray it
by TheDudeAbides007 on Jan 19, 2012 3:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
TE Position
Though not likely to happen, if Joel Dreessen (TE HOU) was able to test FA waters and didn’t immediately re-sign with the Texans, I wouldn’t mind having him join the Chiefs squad. He doesn’t have the same size as Pope but he’s still a big TE with more upside in terms of talent compared to someone like Pope and is still large enough to create mismatches against opposing defenses. We’d look better at the TE position with Moeaki, Dreessen and Pope than we do now with Moeaki, Pope, O’Connel and Becht (the latter two wouldn’t make sense if we grabbed a guy like Dreessen imo).
Though rumors coming out of Houston make it sound like he’ll most likely re-sign with the Texans. Just making a point that TE would be a nice position to see an upgrade.
I see us drafting a TE in the 3rd or 4th
Been rumored that we could go after Egnew out of MU in these rounds.
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Chiefs 2012 Record will be 12-4, AFC West Champs!!
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I'd be happy with that.
I wouldn’t mind if we picked up a TE in the 2nd, even. Someone like Coby Fleener from Stanford.
+1 (JD =Perfectly great pickup)
I trained him at Colorado State University as a student strength coach and he is a freak: strong, fast, explosive, and great agility…not to mention his other half is a hell of alot hotter than Brodie Croyle’s wife!!!!
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by ChiefsatWar on Jan 19, 2012 9:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
+1 back at you on the wife comment!
Yeah, Dreessen from what I’ve seen is underrated and not as transparent across the league playing on the other side of Owen Daniels. But when utilized in the right way he’s shown that his upside is greater than the picture his career stats show. I think someone like him as Moeaki’s counterpart would bring an additional component as a threat to opposing defenses.
Langford's and Piscetelli's Angle of Pursuit suggest
they won’t make it to training camp on time…or at all…
Cut ’em!!!
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by ChiefsatWar on Jan 19, 2012 9:15 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Free agents
Here are some free agents I would like the Chiefs to look at for increased competition and depth at QB, running back, wide receiver, and tight end from that list.
QB- Vince Young (guy would be exciting), Jason Campbell, Shaun Hill, and Brady Quinn
HB (thunder added to lighting)- Ryan Grant, Earnest Graham, Mike Tolbert
Tight End- Fred Davis, Martellius Bennett, John Carlson, John Dreesen
Wide Out- Laurent Robinson, Mario Manningham, Steve Smith (Eagles), Robert Meachem
by Brandt34 on Jan 19, 2012 9:16 AM CST via mobile reply actions
-1 on Vince Young = locker room cancer...let someone else try to re-develop his attitude and career
QB – I would be fine with Jason Campbell to compete with Matt Cassel though he would likely be more expensive than Orton and I’m not all that high on him either, but probably an upgrade. Shaun Hill or Brady Quinn (Crennel’s guy) would be solid backups…at least Hill has shown he is capable of handling the starting role when needed.
RB – If Ryan Grant can be acquired cheaply then I agree. Otherwise, I would take Mike Tolbert over the other two.
TE – Fred Davis would be an awesome acquisition if Washington lets him go, though he’s a restricted FA so it will be interesting to see how that works out. Martellus Bennett will definitely test FA waters; he’s got the size and speed but inconsistent at best – maybe what he needs is another team, or maybe it is what it is. I’d be happier signing Dreessen over the others (see my posts below).
WR – Laurent Robinson or Mario Manningham if Dwayne Bowe leaves. Would be cool to keep Bowe and have a guy like Robinson at Flanker or Slot in rotation with Jon Baldwin and Steve Breaston (or would you need Breaston? Doesn’t matter, won’t happen).
Breaston
I like him but the free agent class of wide outs this year is so much better than last year. It makes you wish they didn’t get Steve. At the same time if Bowe leaves it’s a good list of possible replacements.
by Brandt34 on Jan 19, 2012 1:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Breaston is money
and has the surest hands in the league. The LEAGUE.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
I see as many as 8-11 of the 22 listed returning in 2012.
We may see a draft class of 7 or 8 making roster. We may see an UDFA making roster. We may see 3-5 FA signees. that addition of 11 to 14 new faces means 11 to 14 will be gone from the 22. That allows for 8-11 to stay as a starter, package contributor or as depth.
Like to see return as starter, contributor or depth:
Belcher, Carr, Bowe, Orton, McClain, Gordon, O’Callahan, Battle , Daniels, Becht, Urban.
Need to upgrade positions:
DE in base 3-4, NT in base 3-4, ILB, QB, Speed and depth at SS, FS, CB, RB Compliment, TE, OT, OG/C depth.
The key to success will be to not just replace these positions but to actually upgrade the production from these positions as well as special teams. (A blocked field goal may have kept us out of playoffs.)
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Becht is pretty good at tackling our RB
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Two guys I don't care to see back are Pope and O'Connell.
We should see at least one aquisition at TE thru Draft or FA. By default Bect most likely stays.
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zzzz
re-sign McGraw? seriously?? that guy cant cover a hot dog w/ mustard
by aaronbenavidez426@yahoo.com on Jan 19, 2012 10:10 AM CST reply actions
That's not fair. He did pretty well with the chili on the hot dog.
2012 Chiefs Draft Picks by Falcon58: G DeCastro 1st round, NT Ta'amu 2nd round or OT Adcock 2nd/3rd round, TE Egnew 3rd round, RB Ganaway 5th/6th, QB Case Keenum 5th/6th. Resign: Carr, Bowe, Orton, McClain, Gordon(in that order). Trade Dorsey for picks, promote Gordon to DT/DE.
Found this today
don’t know how insightful this guy is, but he says Chiefs sign Carr and lose Bowe. He also says Chiefs sign Jermichael Finley. I am too lazy to see if this guy is truly insightful, but I am assuming he gets paid for this stuff and I just waste my lunchtime.
by TheValleybetterthanPAC12 on Jan 19, 2012 10:55 AM CST reply actions
I like
McGraw
Gilberry
Richardson (back up T, starting G)
Please move McGraw to not priority
Or sign him as asst. def backs coach. It’ll be cheaper & not affect salary cap
Tough times never last, but tough people do.
by MadMartigan816 on Jan 19, 2012 2:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Orton must be kept
MUST MUST MUST MUST MUST MUST MUST. and who knew Ryan O’Callaghan was still on the team?
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