Arrowheadlines: Chiefs News 1/19
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Jan 19, 2012 7:04 AM CST
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PrintGood morning! Welcome to Thursday, which is almost Friday, which is almost the weekend. Yeah, I need the weekend. Here is today's Kansas City Chiefs news. Enjoy!
There is a strong chance this will be Crennel's final job. It has been an incredible journey for the Lynchburg, Va., native who played offensive and defensive lineman at Western Kentucky. As he begins his second chance, Crennel reflected on the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday this week. Crennel was a 20-year-old college student when King was killed.
"It was an emotional time." Crennel said. "As a minority, I was worried about the progress Dr. King made would be stopped because of his death, but the movement kept going and I'm sure he would be very proud of it. I'm pleased it kept going and I'm very appreciative of every chance I've gotten because of his hard work."Crennel Cherishes Chance With Chiefs from ESPN
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An emotional Jones, 33 years old and headed for unrestricted free agency, reminded his teammates not to take the game of football for granted following the Chiefs Week 17 victory in Denver.
Despite a statically-frustrating season, Jones continued to carry a big voice inside the locker room, during position/team meetings and on gameday.
Offseason Roster Review: Running Back from The Mothership
I realize it's only January, but nothing should come close to touching Kent Babb's story in Sunday's Kansas City Star about the work atmosphere at 1 Arrowhead Drive...
...After the jump, an admittedly imagined conversation in which Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli unveils his cellphone tracking sonar spy machine. Also, a look inside Pioli's office (special thanks to Christopher Nolan and Batman!).
Inside Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli's Secret Lair At One Arrowhead Drive from The Pitch
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You probably noticed this one, but the Chiefs tight ends were among the most highly-penalized players on the team.
Leonard Pope led all Chiefs in individual penalty yardage with nine flags for 79 yards. Jake O'Connell was the fourth-most penalized Chief with seven flags totaling 40 yards in just eight games played. Anthony Becht was flagged once for five yards.
Tight ends were responsible for a total 124 penalty yards last season. By comparison, that amount equals over 38% of their receiving output.
Offseason Roster Review: Tight Ends from The Mothership
In the first week of the 2008 season, Pollard, who was then a safety with the Kansas City Chiefs, took down Brady with an awkward tackle. After he was blocked to the ground by former New England running back Sammy Morris, Pollard lunged at the left knee of the Patriots quarterback. Brady screamed as he crumpled to the grass, his anterior cruciate ligament torn and his season over.
Nearly three and a half years later, Pollard, the starting strong safety for the Ravens, still has to tackle questions about the incident, though they are relevant this week as Pollard and the 13-4 Ravens will play the 14-3 Patriots in Sunday's AFC championship game at Gillette Stadium.
Years Later, Bernard Pollard Still Connected To Tom Brady Injury from The Boston Herald
Here is a rundown of some of the post-practice interviews between the player and a team that was spending some time talking to the prospect:
Kansas City - Army linebacker Steven Erzinger and South Carolina defensive tackle Travian Robertson2012 East-West Shrine Game: Wednesday's East Team Practice Report from Walter Football
Todd Haley, Kansas City Chiefs - The man who put together the offense that got the Arizona Cardinals to Super Bowl XLIII got off to a great start with the Chiefs - they were the AFC's surprise team of 2010 with a 10-6 record. But a disappointing follow-up year - and apparently, some really weird stuff going on in the Chiefs' front office - set things on the wrong path. Last rumored to be scouted as the Jets' passing game coach, Haley is still looking for a new place to land, but he'll probably get another shot as a head coach down the road. Underrated as a pure football guy.
Rex Ryan, Jim Schwartz The Last Two Left In 11-Man Coaching Class Of '09 from Yahoo! Sports
Patriots Pro Bowl guard Brian Waters sides with Dilfer and Sharpe. Waters played nine seasons with the Kansas City Chiefs alongside Gonzalez, who broke all of Sharpe's major records.
But Gronkowski, a 6-6, 265-pounder who runs like a deer and blocks like a beer truck, teamed with 6-1, 245-pound Hernandez, who's part fullback and part slot receiver, is a combo Waters hasn't seen in his dozen years of NFL service.
"It's definitely a difficult matchup. I mean, what do you do?" said Waters, noting that the duo also free up space for Welker and the run game.
Vernon Davis, Rob Gronkowski Take Tight Ends To The Next Level from USA Today
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Thomas jones time is up
Thank you Thomas Jones for your leadership and passion for the chiefs orginaztion but its time to step aside and let somebody else take this leadership role,the problem is Who?
Jones should retire
And he should stay and become our rb coach.
by ChiefsfaninCO on Jan 19, 2012 9:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
... and collects Prize CB's and LB'sduring hunting season
Gronkowski … runs like a deer and blocks like a … truck
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I am going to put my Mock Draft here as well
1. Chase Minnifield CB Virginia- He is a corner that can do it all. You can line him up in the slot, you can blitz him, he can play bump and run and he can play zone coverage. I think drafting a corner like Minnifield will make Chief fan’s forget all about Brandon Carr.
2. Mike Adams OT Ohio State- I am a huge supporter for replacing Barry Richardson, but I am not a fan of Johnathan Martin (Stanford) or Riley Reiff (Iowa) for 3 reasons. Both Martin and Reiff are under 305 lbs, both are LT, and neither of them have played RT. Out of all of the Tackles in this years draft class, I think Mike Adams is the perfect fit for the Chiefs at RT. And besides, I doubt Martin or Rieff will be there when the Chiefs pick.
3. Coby Fleener TE Stanford- The Chiefs need another TE. Leonard Pope and Anthony Becht should never see the field again. With that that being said, I went with Fleener because of his play making ability and size. He could be next years version of Gronkowski, and with a healthy Tony Moeaki, his addition makes the Chiefs offense scary.
4a. Nigel Bradham ILB Florida State- I like Javon Belcher, I think he is a good LB, but I think he could use a little competition to elevate his play. Nigel Bradham is a smart LB with excellent field vision. He could easily come in and win the back up roll at either ILB positions, or beatout Belcher for the starting job.
4b. Dan Herron RB Ohio State- I think he could be the everydown back the Chiefs need to be successfull. On top of that he has very soft hands and he never goes down after the first hit. The only reason I picked him second in this round is because I doubt he will be here when we pick.
5a. Joe Adams WR Arkansas- This guy is a playmaker and a straight up burner. He is also is a dangerous return man as made evident by him winning the SEC special teams player of the year award. With him on the Chiefs offense, the sky is the limit.
5b. Jerry Franklin ILB Arkansas- See Nigel Bradham ILB Florida State.
(In a perfect world, I would pick Herron in the 4th, and Franklin in the 5th, but I doubt that is going to happen.)
6. Josh Oglesby OT Wisconsin- I would not be surprised if the Chiefs Double dip at OT to creat a strong competition for the starting role. Oglesby is big, fast, and one of the reasons Montee Ball was so successful running the ball at Wisconsin.
7. Marvin Jones WR California- I think some new blood in the WR corps will not hurt. It is time to see some new and potentially improved faces at the position.
7. Dajohn Harris DT USC- The Chiefs defense is a few steps away from being an immovable object. If we could land a DT like Harris and add 5-9 lbs of weight to his 6 foot 4 inch frame, we could groom our starting nose tackle of the future.
by Joel Thomas Vazquez on Jan 19, 2012 7:32 AM CST reply actions
why?
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
Could you please elaborate on the why?
I don’t understand your question.
by Joel Thomas Vazquez on Jan 19, 2012 7:50 AM CST up reply actions
Just a guess
But I think he means Why are you posting a mock draft in this thread of all places? If you go to the Fanpost section there is an “official” thread for this stuff.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
I am sorry
I did not know that. My bad.
by Joel Thomas Vazquez on Jan 19, 2012 7:55 AM CST up reply actions
no worries
people started doing that to make the threads a bit more organized.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Sure, I'll elaborate:
“Im going to put my Mock Draft here as well”
At this point I stopped reading the rest of your comment
“why?”
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
So you felt it necessary
To let the whole world know that you were not going to read my mock draft before not reading it. Good use of your time there Einstein!
by Joel Thomas Vazquez on Jan 19, 2012 9:12 AM CST up reply actions
ok, so ... I guess you're new to AP
so welcome to AP … as to the previous “why” well it’s because most people stop and take time to get to know a place at least a little bit before posting randomly
sort of like study the terrain before you strap on a snowboard and go sliding down the mountain, just so you don’t go off a cliff, you know what I mean?
so if you’ve looked at AP at all you’d know that there’s a weekly post dedicated to draft talk … so that it stays kind of in one place, because some people actually prefer NOT to look at mocks by the dozen on every single thread
so, we put it all here instead: http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/1/15/2709984/draft-talk-thread-1-16-12-1-23-12-trashy-edition-with-hot-links
which, of course, you’d know full well if you’d looked around even a tiny bit … which it seems you didn’t
nice use of your time as well, Schrödinger
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I read that in your robot voice...
Stephen Hawking…
First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...
Charter Member of Chief Fans for Neck Beards...Viva La Orton
Are you two a couple
If so I did not mean to offend you.
by Joel Thomas Vazquez on Jan 19, 2012 9:24 AM CST up reply actions
That's just precious.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
by TRSChief on Jan 19, 2012 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey I found a picture of your prom date
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by Joel Thomas Vazquez on Jan 19, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
My prom date looks like broken HTML?
Man, it’s worse than I thought.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
Did you piss in his coffee this morning?
Men succeed when they realize that their failures are the preparation for their victories.
Hammerfisting my own balls since 2006
No. In fact.. I just wrote "why?"
It was you that asked me to elaborate. So I did, at your request.
I did exactly what you asked me to do, and you suggest I’m the fool for doing it.
Irony. Look it up, Einstein.
On a more positive note. I wasn’t very helpful, so that’s on me.
I SHOULD have simply linked you to the Mock Draft thread instead of commenting “why?”
It would have been the smart thing to do, and the nicer thing as well.
However, I’m an idiot.. and I’ve never been accused of being nice.. just direct.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Jan 19, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
I'm thinking about posting my grocery list.
This seems like a place as good as any.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
by TRSChief on Jan 19, 2012 7:54 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I bet the first item on your list KY Gel
Followed by Backdoor condoms…in your face troller!
by Joel Thomas Vazquez on Jan 19, 2012 7:56 AM CST up reply actions
and seriously, no personal attacks
as I’m sure you know … or will or at least do now
play nicely or you won’t be allowed to play at all … you know, the usual things like that apply here
Twisted Lord of AP Color Commentary (H/T - Loco)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Wow...
on AP 4.5 months and you’re calling TRS (2.5 years) a troller?
Time to turn the lenses in your glasses…
I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...
I am seriously considering posting my grocery list.
Did you know there are forty different kinds of hamburger helper.
"The Hammer"
And I bet you could eat them all in one sitting
BELLY D. WILLIAMS!
by Joel Thomas Vazquez on Jan 19, 2012 7:59 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know why they call it Hamburger Helper...
It does just fine by itself, huh?
by Ochophosphate on Jan 19, 2012 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Real Muafuc*in' tomato ketchup Eddie?!
"Why are all these people here? There are too many people on this earth. We need a new plague…"
-Dwight Schrute
My grocery list:
1) Milk.
2) Coffee creamer.
3) Lunchables.
4a) DiGiorno pizzas.
4b) Shredded cheese.
5a) Pillsbury cinnamon rolls.
5b) Eggs.
6) Bananas.
7) Potatoes.
And if I wind up getting a compensatory pick for my wife finishing off the last of the chocolate ice cream, I’d like to see us use it to pick up some sour cream to pair with the potatoes.
Hrm. Not bad.
But here’s the thing:
Coffee creamer is a reach at #2. You could easily trade down and pick up some paper towels and maybe some honey roasted peanuts. Meanwhile, milk is a solid #1, and is versatile enough that it could make Coffee Creamer redundant.
I think you could get a lot more value #2 there, imo.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
Oh damn, Lunchables is entering the draft this year?
I could’ve sworn they would’ve been back for one more season.
Well that just shook up my entire grocery draft world.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
Fair.
But, the Coffee Creamer I was considering was the International House Caramel Macchiato creamer. I think it fills a slightly different role in the dairy line-up, and has interesting skill set that would make it a good rotational and situational player as a back-up to milk.
I’d consider slotting it a little lower on the ‘needs’ list, but I think it still needs to be in there somewhere.
I guess so.
I mean, I can see where you’re coming from.
But I just have a hard time justifying going Dairy in the first two rounds. Guess we can agree to disagree.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
I can't. Doubling up on the dairy in the first 2 rounds is just plain stupid.
Especially when one of the items is some bullshit flavored cream product that will only RUIN a cup of coffee.
What’s next? Ketchup to put on your steak?
Grow a pair of balls and drink the coffe how it was intended to be served.. black.
Only effeminate whiners and 10 year old girls fill their coffee with sugary and flavored crap.
It’s a complete waste of a draft pick. You may as well have suggested picking up sugar to add to a perfectly good glass of iced tea!
=P
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Jan 19, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Effeminate whiner? Well hellooooooooooooooo...
"Why are all these people here? There are too many people on this earth. We need a new plague…"
-Dwight Schrute
Clearly you've never had actual 'sweet tea' ...
… which is understandable, as it’s rare to find anyone outside of the SEC (and, arguably, the ACC) that’ve adequately developed the position.
I can understand not wanting to ‘ruin’ a pure coffee with complicated recipes, but I think your idea that coffee can’t be good with additives is antiquated and a forumla for disaster.
For example, the Pac-12, and particularly their northern half, really seem to have developed the best dairy/coffee combinations in the country, to the point that others all across the country are trying to emulate what they’ve done or implement a Washinton-style coffee scheme. But, they don’t have anyone coming out in in the grocery draft this week, so I think we have to make-do with what’s available.
Alright, I call BS
The Washington-style coffee scheme is gimmicky garbage.
As soon as coffee drinkers adapt, they’ll see that it’s just a bad flavor. Sure it’s the fad right now, but in a season or two it’ll be gone to the wayside like Pepsi Clear and Tab.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
I disagree.
I think the Washington-style coffee scheme will prove to be a game-changer and, at the very least, I think its been proliferate enough to warrant some consideration.
Sure, eventually everyone adapts and moves on to the next new thing, but even in the NFL some are still playing the ‘Tampa 2’ defense and attempt to emulate elements of ‘West Coast’ offenses.
Pfffttt...
If you honestly believe that… I bet you’re one of the people that believe Tim Tebow will be a hall of fame QB.
That scheme, much like flavored, sugary, cream filled coffee is nothing but a gimmick. When push comes to shove in the NFL players have to have sound fundamentals, and strong pocket skills FIRST… all the other stuff is fine if it’s an add on to the base scheme, but you can’t count on it as your bread and butter. Look no further than the wildcat offense for proof.
I say again, it’s a waste of a second round pick. We need to be using our #2 slot to pick up fresh roasted whole coffee beans. All the other intangibles amount to nothing if we can’t reliably produce in the basic coffee scheme.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
But, coffee isn't a position of need.
I’ve got a one-pound container of Folgers that’s still at least half full, plus two bags of Dunkin’ Donuts and two bags of Starbucks beans (in two different roasts!) that I got in free agency my stocking at Christmas.
At this point, coffee would be a luxury pick and, really, I think we’re set with what we have.
WAIT WAIT
Milk cannot be #1 overall!!!!!!! It must stay cold so it should be dropped down just before ice cream and frozen pizza at 6 and 7 respectively. That will allow the coach to make it to the checkout for a hail mary to the car without anything getting spoiled or plans melting!
**Heres to 5 err 4 more years of JC!!!!**
Except that ...
… they always put the refrigerator and dairy sections (often the same section) at the back of the store, so you have to get all of those picks at the same time or else you wind up having to go back and forth.
Also, my draft strategy incorporates hitting the things at the back of the store first and working your way toward the registers. It’s a risk, but it’s worked well in the past.
this is a much better discussion than speculating on what college football players we should draft BTW..
Can we get an official “Grocery Store List” thread going?
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Jan 19, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Does this mock assume Carr leaves and that Orton or Cassel is QB?
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
by NJChieffan16 on Jan 19, 2012 7:51 AM CST up reply actions
Yes
I don’t think Carr is coming back, and as much as I would love getting RG3, that shit is all but impossible. We stick with candy armed cassel one more year…
by Joel Thomas Vazquez on Jan 19, 2012 7:57 AM CST up reply actions
As a person, you're right
As a quarterback, there are lots of things wrong with Cassel
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Candy armed?
I’ve heard of candy assed. I’ve heard of noodle armed. I’ve never heard of candy armed.
Candy armed?
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
by TRSChief on Jan 19, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Our TE's suck.
Sorry. Just thinking out loud.
My earliest Chiefs memories are watching guys named Dawson, Podolak, Taylor, Thomas, Bell, and Buchanan. So, yeah...I'm kind of an old fart.
by Scott B. on Jan 19, 2012 8:02 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
yeah
That’s definitely not a story we missed.
the expat formally known as Chiefsinchina
by Shanghai_Chiefs on Jan 19, 2012 8:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I would too.
They r gonna need all the help they can get with the way their offense is playin. Plus I just hate brady and would love to see himmess up.
by ChiefsfaninCO on Jan 19, 2012 9:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Probably not significant
I don’t think Brady’s going to care or even bother to take note of where Pollard is on every play unless he’s looking for the best place to burn the Raven’s coverage.
“ok, it’s 3rd down and I need a completion here… where’s Pollard, where’s Pollard, wher…. oop, there he is (motions to Welker)… first down comin right up.”
I thought it was funny in the Texans game how Pollard made one good play so they spent 5 minutes talking about how much he has contributed to the D and he’s a great tackler yada yada. Then the following 2-3 plays were all Pollard missing coverage and/or missing a tackle.
There are things I liked about Pollard and things I will miss (punt blocking, hard hitting) but there are plenty of things that I don’t.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 19, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
Perfectly happy that we moved on from that guy.
The crazy pressure the Ravens’ front 7 generates helps hide his liability in coverage some. But he’s just not good.
Also, Ed Reed.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
to just release him though
I think we could have gotten something for him, hell he was starting the next week! And releasing Gaither,… what a bone head move that was. I liked Haley but he did make some moves that keep you scratchind your head.
I believe Haley perfected the scratch hind.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
by neiowakcfan on Jan 19, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
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