What is SOPA & PIPA and how will they affect you and AP?
by RrustyDawg on Jan 18, 2012 10:13 AM CST
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First, let me say that I would never consider taking up FanPost space with this if we were in a busier time of the season. Second, while this post deals with a political subject, I personally see it as completely party neutral and want this to serve as a means to inform folks who may not understand how what is happening in Washington right now could seriously impact the future of Arrowhead Pride and every other blog across the internet. If you know what SOPA and PIPA are and have done your part to understand what they are and how they impact you, then by all means skip this post and move on to something else. Otherwise, follow after the jump.
PIPA (Senate) = "Protect Intellectual Property Act" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_IP_Act
Rather than me trying to explain what's in these bills, I would ask you to click over and read them for yourself.
These are both works in progress and will certainly be changed before they would ever reach a final vote. My big problem is that anyone in Washington thinks these are actually a possible solution to online piracy. If passed in their current form, every single post and comment on Arrowhead Pride would have to be reviewed for copyright violations. Oh...you say that is no problem because you only use links to other web pages. Well, the Thorman's would also be required to make sure that any linked website is also not violating copyright laws.
And the burden of policing for copyright violations as proposed rests on the blog owner. If you can't police it, the proposed solution is to shut down the website until it comes back into compliance.
SOPA and PIPA are truly scary in that they are seen as a proper framework to arrive at a solution to online piracy. In reality, they would only serve to effectively kill blogs that allow common readers to voice their opinions. Blogs like Arrowhead Pride would be nothing more than posts by a very short list of approved people and absolutely no user comments discussing the issue.
So what do I think? I think every APer who is a U.S. citizen should take 2 minutes and let their Senators and Representative know that the current bills are unacceptable and you are watching their actions on their bill.
House contact link: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
Senate contact link: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
To our non-US citizen family: I encourage you to contact your government representatives and let them know that the "crazies" in Washington are out of control (again) and maybe Canada needs to move its southern border further south.
Final editorial comment: While I was drafting up this post, Chris "front paged" the official SBN position on SOPA, so this post is a little redundant. Rather than delete my FanPost, I thought it might help to add to the discussion and provide easy links to contact your government officials.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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Just another move by the communist white house....
"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "
by chief Stevie_k on Jan 18, 2012 11:37 AM CST reply actions
You are very confused...
Robert Murdoch critical of White House stance on SOPA
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 18, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
by the way
your post will be flagged for copyright infringement because you didnt get written permission to link to another site, and even if you did the government didnt see it so AP must shut down until you can show them.
Problem is it is the whole government not the white house
whether Bush or Obama the outcome is the same.
FYI: Obama has already said he would not sign the SOPA bill "as is" because it's far too broad in scope
I like the Hollywood vs Silicon Valley point by Forbes in today’s article
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by upamtn on Jan 18, 2012 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
FYI obama said he didn't support NDAA nor would be sign it
he signed it on New Year
Can't say that till the new vote happens
Anythings possible, hell the current vote hasn’t happened yet.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
Not at all
A veto from Obama is newsworthy, and If there is even more anti-SOPA support it could stop the bill, congressmen may love money but they love staying in power more the people are a very powerful force when they actually want to be.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
wrong, Stevie ... this is the right wing neo-conservative side ... you know, the money guys, the elite, the 1%-ers
used to be I could record something from the radio and share it with someone on a cassette tape and nobody had an issue with it … as long as I wasn’t selling or making a profit from my actions
now the powers-that-be in the world of “music and movies” … ie, the COMPANIES that control those venues (not the artists, the companies who make the bulk of the PROFITS) want to FORCE all IP’s to monitor any and all activity in case someone sends Aunt Sally a recording of The Beatles singing “Happy Birthday”
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Eh...not really.
This is pretty bi-partisan.
http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/pipa
Keep in mind that most of the corporations dealing with copyright issues and piracy (entertainment) lean more towards the Democrat side.
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by citadelchief on Jan 18, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
regardless, the whole thing is pretty much unconstitutional and theoretically should never get off the ground
read what the Stanford Law Review has to say about it
Adam Savage of Mythbusters fame also writes for Popular Mechanics and has his two cents worth here
Bob Boostin, Google’s director of public policy, said if SOPA was passed that youtube would “go dark”
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funny how you blame republicians then found out democrats were supporting it
and now we’re changing your stance to blaming someone else.
nice
I personally think both suck and are just out to line pockets,
and argue with the other side regardless of right or wrong or what is best for the people. They only work together when they have a lot of money thrown at their campaigns. Cut government spending, ha, i see they never miss the session to give themselves a pay raise. all hands on deck and kumbaya for that one.
That's why it's bi-partisan supported?
You really falling for that right-left shit ups? You surprise me more every day.
And Dems are squarely in the 1% spiel, then again so are our favorite football players but you only gotta make over 500 thou to be in the 1%
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'd be happy with 500 these days
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Ha me too
Would be happy with some peace for once too
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
visualze whirled peas!
stop the violins!
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over 60% of Demacrats in the senate support this turd
The main proponents of this bill are the MPAA and the Recording industry . Not exactly beacons of conservative ideals.
In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti
by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Jan 20, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
Communists hate the white house
This is fascism at its finest
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
careful ... that term might be copyrighted
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No, no, no. You've got your totalitarian government backwards.
If the Democrats get what they want, we’ll be Communist and paint the White House red.
If the Republicans get what they want, we’ll be Fascist and paint the White House gold.
However, in this case, they have both agreed in their methods of repression…so I don’t know what color that paints the White House.
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by citadelchief on Jan 18, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks for this...
Facism and Communism are two separate identities. Often times misconstrued as the same thing… ie Obama is a commie as he is portrayed with a Hitler-stache.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Well they both want varying degrees of government control
with either system throughout history the only people who won were the governments while the rest of the people suffered.
Might as well be the same thing in my eyes.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 19, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
First off...
…learn what Communism is. Using it like that makes you look like a fucking moron.
Secondly, PIPA/SOPA have received bipartisan support due to the massive influx of lobbyist dollars that have flowed into the sponsors’ campaign coffers.
This is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.
by GonzosDirtyTrailer on Jan 18, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But all it takes is Obama to sign it
Hes the last line
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
Of defense for the people
Lately though presidents have been for everybody but the people, including Obama
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
as anti-Republican as I am, I'm disappointed in Obama
now, I don’t blame him for the economy … I just don’t see that he’s done a lot that he’s said he would do (not a huge surprise) … then too, do think he’s had at least some decent initiatives blocked by a very partisan Congress who like to “play politics” with people’s lives
the problem with that is that THEY still get paid their exorbitant salaries (and gifts, etc) while the rest of us go down the tubes
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He's a liar plain and simple
Making small moves here and there to garner reelection support, he’s only in it for the money and will continue to help his lobbyist/bankster/corporate friends.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
unlike Mitt Romney ... right? ;-)
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Nah, exactly like mitt Romney
Unlike some people my hatred doesn’t end because of which side of the aisle they’re on, they’re all evil to me besides a few.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
Speaking of which
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
that's funny!
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Please don't make Newt Gingritch president!
The last thing I want is for child labor laws to end, a nuclear war with Iran, and him saying something offensive every time he has a speech. Please….no.
It's Orton Time!
Yeah... the Dems got so much done in the 2 years they controlled all 3 branches.
Pfft. You ought to get out of the trap thinking of partisan politics. The vast majority of both parties are crooked ass hacks. Mass cleansing, term limits, and regulation needs to be put in place on Congress. It’s gotten entirely out of hand.
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by Tomahawk29 on Jan 18, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
look at what I wrote a bit ago, about 6 comments down
where I started with
TBH … I actually think they’re all crooks and should be tossed out immediately, if not outright jailed for bribery and corruption
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he won't ... he's already said that
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Might not matter.
Congress is pretty close to having their 2/3 override.
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by citadelchief on Jan 18, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
and that's what really worries me ... disgusting
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Congress typically reevaluates itself on these type of vetoes.
If Obama vetoes the bill it would be wise for the Democrats to jump ship and vote nay. This makes the Republicans look bad if they too vote for the bill.
NDAA was a bill for spending of the Defense. I hate that Obama signed it but he was cornered on this. If he vetoed and they Congress didn’t get a 2/3 majority then our defense doesn’t get funded. Many troops get further put in harms way… or that is how the media will portray it. Then 2 weeks(they signed this on recess) later or longer congress passes another bill. As much as I hate that Obama signed this he did what he had to do for the military.
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oh, I understand ...
the Reb=publican congress has played bully with Obama and politics with the lives of millions … all while being as greedy and self-centered as possible, while pretending to be sanctimonious and upright about their intentions
theater of the absurd in 3-D
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You honestly believe only one side treats it that way?
"Hater" is a term used by weak-minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
TBH ... I actually think they're all crooks and should be tossed out immediately, if not outright jailed for bribery and corruption
it’s also disgusting to me that pols spent millions upon millions on outrageous ads, most of which are false or misleading, and I’d much prefer to see TOTAL change of the election process (no advertising or campaigning, candidates submit a “position paper” that is mailed to all registered voters and that’s it, no campaign contributions) as well as a huge cut in pay for elected officials, no lobbyists whatsoever in DC …
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by upamtn on Jan 18, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Then why portray the Reps as all the ones at fault?
If you truly believe they’re all crooks then say so from the beginning definitely cuts down on a lot of confusion.:D
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 19, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
And more wars go unfunded
All I see is good things for the people on that. At least if “Defense”(more like offense) goes without funding that delays the government from locking up citizens indefinitely.
Some thing’s are bigger then the fake dollar bill the government trys to enslave the people with.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 19, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
He can still veto it
Stick up for the people, continuously he’s shown that under political pressure he has no backbone
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
Right, but that's where the 2/3 comes into play.
He vetos it, but it’s a hollow gesture (or maybe just a campaign move) if Congress just overrides the veto.
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by citadelchief on Jan 18, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
So what?
He vetoes it he can at least hold it up for a few weeks, get more public support, show he’s against this sort of thing. Hell by the time it comes back maybe they get less votes as it gets vetted through congress again.
But he’s not against it so he won’t.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
that's the real problem with DC ... you can have all the high ideals you want, but ...
… the reality is that you HAVE to “sell out” (aka “compromise on issues”) to get anything passed …
I grew up and came of age in the late 60’s … the whole anti-Vietnam protests and counterculture stuff, it was a hoot and we honestly thought (hoped) we were affecting change of some sort …
after Nixon went down from the Watergate scandal, a LOT of young, idealistic and well-meaning people were elected to Congress … unfortunately, those of the highest ideals and standards didn’t last very long
why? they found out VERY quickly that in order to “play the game” they had to sell out, at least to a degree … “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” … and so it went
and so it goes
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You can't compromise the people
And as president he shouldn’t be. He’d garner a lot more respect instead of doing the biddings of big business.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
Said the same thing about NDAA
Then signed it anyway, he’s as much a corporatist as all the rest.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
I hear ya.
He signed NDAA, there’s no reason to assume he wouldn’t sign SOPA.
This is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.
by GonzosDirtyTrailer on Jan 18, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
Sad is both Dem adn Republicans have bills and think this is a good idea
must be a lot of lobbyist money flowing for them to agree so easily.
of course a lot of money from lobbyists ... that's what makes DC go 'round
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95 Million is the figure I've heard.
Co-sponsors of the bills have received 2-4 million in campaign contributions, which is why you see such bipartisan consensus.
This is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.
by GonzosDirtyTrailer on Jan 18, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
all about the dollar bill ...
which is a great tune from years ago by Johnny “Guitar” Watson, and I’d link to it here but my guess is youtube is dark today :-)
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95 million just to push your agenda
and we have to foot “the borrow money from china because banks can’t do math” loan.
(I know it is not that simple a problem)
yup ... welcome to the new world order
new meaning to the “green revolution” … and you thought it was about the environment
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Yep
I’m not a U.S. citizen and its times like these that make me glad about that
by craig in calgary on Jan 18, 2012 12:24 PM CST reply actions
Its things like this, that have been making me think about leaving the country for years actually.
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.
by averagegatsby on Jan 19, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
wouldn't blame you if you did
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Rage Against the Machine sums it up the best.
Land of the free… Whoever told you that is your enemey
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.
by averagegatsby on Jan 20, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
Left wing right wing who gives a shit?
Voting is for suckers and old people
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Which is why politics
Because suckers and old people are voting for our leaders.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Meh, Charlton Heston is still my president
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
If by "old"" you mean "dead" then yes, he is old
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
Did anyone pry the gun out of his cold dead fingers yet?
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 18, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like Washington is tired of Lanier63 also!
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
As added information regarding Congressional sponsors:
SOPA (House):
Sponser: Lamar Smith (TX)
Co-sponsers: Amodei (NV), Baca (CA), Barrow (GA), Bass (CA), Berman (CA), Blackburn (TN), Bono-Mack (CA), Carter (TX), Chabot (OH), Chu (CA), Conyers (MI), Cooper (TN), Deutch (FL), Gallegly (CA), Goodlatte (VA), Griffin (AR), Holden (PA), King (NY), Larson (CT), Lujan (NM), Marino (PA), Nunnelee (MS), Owens (NY), Ross (FL), Scalise (LA), Schiff (CA), Sherman (CA), Terry (NE), Wasserman Schultz (FL), Watt (NC), Quayle (AZ)
PIPA (Senate):
Sponser: Leahy (VT)
Co-Sponsers: Alexander (TN), Ayotte (NH), Bennet (CO), Bingaman (NM), Blumenthal (CT), Blunt (MO), Boozman (AR), Boxer (CA), Brown (OH), Cardin (MD),Casey (PA), Chambliss (GA), Cochran (MS), Coons (DE), Corker (TN), Durbin (IL), Enzi (WY), Feinstein (CA), Franken (MN), Gillibrand (NY), Graham (SC), Grassley (IA), Hagen (NC), Hatch (UT), Isakson (GA), Johnson (SD), Klobuchar (MN), Kohl (WI), Landrieu (LA), Leiberman (CT), McCain (AZ), Menendez (NJ), Nelson (FL), Risch (ID), Rubio (FL), Schumer (NY), Shaheen (NH), Udall (NM), Vitter (LA), Whitehouse (RI), Moran (KS)
You’ve got power-players from both parties as SPONSERS of this garbage! This thing is gonna take major pressure from the people to get derailed.
fuck that somebody fill my pockets
time for a deadly revolution.
Guns for all
And these are just the freakin' sponsers!
Its almost a certainty to pass the Senate when 20% of the place has their name attached to the bill.
Of course lobbyist can buy votes in DC
but i cant sell my vote BS. just kidding, well maybe, i dont know.
funny how that works, isn't it!
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yup i am in the wrong business
i should be trying to rape my fellow Americans pockets while some company gives me more money and gifts to not show up and vote for crap like laws and bills i have never read or even looked at.
the Bushes, Barack, and Billy Clinton – the Killer B’s Killing my pockets.
Billy wasn't bad ... not all bad
and I actually like/respect Bush the Elder … now sonny, ummmmmmmm … no
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Billy wasn't bad?
I’m sure Iraqis would like a word…
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 18, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
Roy Blunts site was shut down most of the day...
Maybe that’s why he pulled co-sponsership. God I hate RHINOS
It's not about RINOS or "real" republicans.
It’s about the fact that these corporations want more money, so they tell them to shut down anybody that cuts into their profits. Same reason they shut down the gambling websites. Wouldn’t want any competition for the big Casinos now would we?
It’s also why it’s bipartisan. Nothing unites politicians like giving as many benefits to the corporations who fund their campaigns as possible while sucking the life out of real people.
And, in case you were wondering, most of the corporations who are opposed to these bills don’t contribute to campaigns out of principal. That’s why politicians don’t mind pissing them off. In fact, it’s probably the reason they’re pissing them off. The politicians showed Google that if they don’t start corrupting politicians they will be hurt.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Jan 18, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
corporations want more money? (gasp) who knew!
because $5 Billion in profits for GE with zero corporate taxes is simply not nearly enough :-)
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And the CEO works for the Obama Administration
I wonder if he gives them tips on how to cheat their taxes.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 19, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
you have it backwards ...
the Obama administration works for him
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
to be fair, so did Dubya ...
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Ah my mistake
I should say that he holds a position in our government that he paid for.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 19, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
you gots it
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its all about controll
the entertainment industry should controll their product as the NFL does. They can do it MUCH better than the government can…ie … post office, Amtrack etc. It may cost them a few dollars but that is something they will have to figure in their budjet because there are ZERO DOLLARS in the US budget. ZERO! I am completely astonished that our frikin congress would even consider another SPENDING BILL…there must be another reason….do you think they want controll over the internet they way they seek controll over everything and everyone….hum…
by chieffaninfl on Jan 20, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
fyi
http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/
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by MarineChiefsFan on Jan 18, 2012 4:55 PM CST reply actions
wow ... both Bachman AND Pelosi are against it
that has to be a first
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and Feistein and McCain are for it
thought I would do this while I still could
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Jan 20, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
and duly rec'd
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What?????? Scan the internet for copyright violations?
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I’m against this bill. At first, I thought the bill was to prevent sites like Wiki-leaks from posting secret government documents. I agreed with that part. Now I hear this, it has changed my opinion of this whole thing. Boo for big buisness.
It's Orton Time!
so can we get in trouble if we copy links here? what if we copy and paste here?
is that bad?
by the great thunderlips on Jan 18, 2012 7:43 PM CST reply actions
something to consider
under the SOPA if it’s passes, a person who posted a video of Michael Jackson would be in line for a FIVE YEAR prison sentence
that’s one year MORE than the doctor who killed Michael Jackson
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I think he got 3 years
Another thing to consider are online universities. My GF teaches online and using and pasting links are part of her curriculum.
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Jan 20, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
well, they've delayed the vote, for now ... in theory to change the bills
we shall see
it really seems like the RIAA and MPAA are pushing further and further … and while I understand the point about “artists being paid for their work” there’s a difference between “file sharing” and “piracy” where people create hard-copy movies and disks for sale
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ya
Youtube will cease to exist in it’s current form(which really sucks) and all that will be on there is people making rap songs about mash potatos if this passes. Because youtube is definatley making money off of copyrighted material. I can’t watch a movie on there now, without advertisements popping up everywhere. But I am with you(shocking I know) where does the intellectual property begin and end? If I make a CD and someone buys it, it is now there physical property which trumps intellectual property any day. How are you going to tell someone what they can or can’t do with it?
Now, I can say’’ ya, but that cuts into my profit margin as an artist’’ …well yes and no. An artist makes what? 25 cents a copy per CD sold. They make 20 times that on merchandise, touring, product sales. What artist in there right mind wouldn’t want free advertising. I will give you an example, I was on youtube not to long ago and came across this band i never heard of. I liked there material so much that I went to there show where I also bought a t-shirt. Without youtube , I would have never been exposed to them. Youtube has helped so many artists get recognized and made so many people money , why fuck with it? I know that is only 1 area that this bill affects, but it is the site with the most to lose
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Jan 20, 2012 5:22 PM CST reply actions
this, you nailed it
They make 20 times that on merchandise, touring, product sales
the CD’s are nothing, and I’ll argue til I’m purple Chiefs Red that they make FAR more on the concerts and other merchandise than anything else (not to mention promoting this product, that product, etc) … hell, if people didn’t share files or post on youtube, a lot of people would never be known by anyone to begin with
the whole RIAA thing is absurd … like the Strolling Bones give a rat’s ass if someone downloads their entire discography, they don’t care nor should they, they DO care about $500 tickets for a concert and that’s where the money is
go after the pirates who sell hardcopies, absolutely … toss ‘em in prison and I’ll be the first to say “well done” but let’s knock off the pretense that artists are “losing millions and thousands of American jobs are lost” because of free file sharing
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
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by upamtn on Jan 20, 2012 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed wow we this agreeing thing between you and I has to stop sometime .....right :)
Advertising is the crux for capatalism. Do people want to see a Stalin espue, obey style painting of Obama/Bush/Clinton? Or , do they want to see a product , that they can use , advertised for free? The internet is the great equalizing voice that unites us all. How else are ordinary people with exceptional talents, expected to get their talents recognized. You and i are step by step on this. I think a quote by 1 of my personal icons will suffice for this 1
"Every man lives by exchanging."
― Adam Smith
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Jan 20, 2012 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
thank christ
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Jan 20, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
lol...and to think people want Bi partism
Out the window with this dreck
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Jan 20, 2012 8:18 PM CST reply actions
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