Does Todd Haley have a Mental Disorder
The most infamous start of Haley's career was his argument with Anquan Boldin. Within a year of coaching, he broke a golden rule of NFL coaches and refused to shake hands with Josh McDaniels. This was not McDaniels first outing against Haley. However, during this outing Haley accused Josh McDaniels of spying / cheating on the Chiefs and their gameplan. His warning to McDaniels was that everyone was on to him.
This is a sign of paranoia. But it has its own right. McDaniels was part of SpyGate. But so was Pioli, the man who hired him.
Todd Haley refuses to shake Josh McDaniels hand (via astroph)
During the Famous Monday Night Overtime Win, Haley decides to chew out whatever coach is on his headset (most likely it is Steve Hoffman, the special teams coach ) saying the F-bomb clearly to a fellow coach. Again, even the most controversial coaches treat their fellow coaches like they are on the same team. This is another sign of him not acting like a leader but a spoiled child.
This is how Todd Haley talks to his coaches. (via seahawks4life34)
Haley clearly picks a fight with Bill Muir in this video and walks off. Muir, a veteran coach, seems furious at Haley's childish actions at this point. Haley went through 4 Offensive Co-ordinaters in 4 years. It became apparent in the offseason , after Weis left, that no assistant coach wanted to be in Kansas City with Haley.
Taking it one step further, Charlie Weis notified the press that he would become the Offensive Coordinater of Florida 2 weeks before the playoffs began. Why?
It would make sense if Weis was going to become the Head Coach of a college team with re-cruiting. But Florida and Weis making this knowledge public showed that Weis had enough of Haley and the Chiefs.
Todd Haley Bill Muir Sideline Exchange (via mattgrbac)
According to several first hand blog reports (all which came on different sights around the same time), Haley was at the Cigar Box and drunk with his friends. A group of Chiefs fans were in the table near-by and Haley felt that they were giving him and his family funny looks. Haley errupted on them and started to pick a fight. The police were called in and no report was made. The Chiefs PR team stated that Haley and his family just happened to be near an encounter despite the rumors that Haley was actually involved.
Buzz about Haley and incident at Cigar Box (via NBCActionNews)
Then there was an incident involving John Harbaugh during a pre-season game. One where Haley was trying to pick a fight w/ his fellow AFC Coach about how he was doing his job (after the Chiefs were beaten by the Ravens 2 consecutive times). Again Haley's mind wasn't where it should have been. It was at the blame of someone else instead of taking it in internally.
Nestor asks Harbaugh about Todd Haley's angst (via WNST)
Perhaps Haley wasn't made to be a head coach. He was simply a man that didn't have the mental capacity that a head coach of a promising franchse? Even the tiny details... Haley's appearance as a bum on the sideline during practices and meetings. His quietness during halftime. His lack of motivation to take Tyler Palko out of the game.
Haley said in various interviews that he felt like he was going to get fired last season. And after the Baltimore game. He let Jim Zorn take over the QB coaching. In THE WAR ROOM Haley notes that he isn't able to coach a quarterback. That Zorn was the answer.
But during this argument look at Zorn and look at Haley. Look at McClain , not telling his Quarterback to settle down but his coach. There weren't small issues with Haley coaching the Chiefs. There were MAJOR ones.
Haley-Cassel Sideline Spat.mpg (via MrIcefroggyfrog)
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Did Vince Lombari have a mental disorder?
Everyone’s man crush Bill Cowher? Buddy Ryan? Mike Ditka? Gruden? Parcells? Nope, but they all do have something in common. I’ll let you figure it out
by RamX21 on Jan 17, 2012 1:01 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
i get they say the F bomb
The point is that there’s a difference between saying “f-bombs” within sentences and saying “f – you”…. especially when you’re a boss. I’ve had bosses that were crazy like that. Lets just say that a) i didn’t work their for long b) the company didn’t succeed.
Haley seemed to be a cancer. Look at how different the team acted once he left. No one seemed to be shaken by the move.
Lots of teams react well to coaching changes.
Maybe they really like Crennel and were fighting for his job?
Or maybe they were happy to get a real QB on the field?
He let Jim Zorn take over the QB coaching.
This is an indictment, how?
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 17, 2012 6:01 AM CST up reply actions
look at how the team played their butts off in 2010 and won 10 games with Cassel at QB
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
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What is this? Take speculation, blow it up 100 times and analyze incidents with no inside knowledge and you have a fanpost. I’m sorry to be harsh but this post is ridiculous.
really?
So wouldnt that report about haley thinking he was getting spied on ,a speculation? This guy was just showing that maybe haley has issues that would go against the theory of haley being bugged.
If anything, this post refreshes our minds about what an asshole todd haley was at times.. the guy was our coach for 3 years and had more negatiivity around him then all our coaches combined. And even now that he isnt our coach, he is still stiring up shit
by TheScreenName on Jan 17, 2012 3:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
he was like every other coach in the NFL
He cussed he drank he had fights with players. Whatever. He’s gone now, he doesn’t have a mental disorder, hes just a guy who got fired. Jesus. These conspiracies are just stupid.
not saying he has mental disorder
But dont compare him to other coaches..i dont hear the negativity about other coaches like i do about haley in his short coaching career
by TheScreenName on Jan 17, 2012 8:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
and funny how this erks you
But not the rumor about haley saying pioli tampered with his cell phone ..
by TheScreenName on Jan 17, 2012 9:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
you must have slept thru the Mackovic Era
had more negativity around him then all our coaches combined
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
or young enough to not give a fuck
Old man
by TheScreenName on Jan 17, 2012 9:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
that's obvious
punk kid
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
umm?29 would mean i am a punk MAN
by TheScreenName on Jan 17, 2012 9:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm still twice your age and old enough to be your father
remember that
kid ;-)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
in twenty years when the chiefs finally when the superbowl
Ill be around..dad :)
by TheScreenName on Jan 17, 2012 10:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
which i hope u are too
Joke gone bad..sorry
by TheScreenName on Jan 17, 2012 10:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'll be around, son
of course, if they’d just listen to me and follow my grand plan they’d get there a lot sooner …
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
by upamtn on Jan 18, 2012 6:36 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Of Course
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 18, 2012 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
So according to the screen name
X + Chiefs = Super Bowl
X = Ups Death
Sorry Ups. We want a winner 0:)
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 18, 2012 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
Haley did not say Pioli tampered with his cell phone...
he suggested someone may have tampered with his personal cell phone.
It is time to anoint the Stanzi. He is The One.
It's an Open Question
The guy is a lot of Drama. I’ve never seen a coach who has accomplished less treat his staff and other coaches that way.
Also… According to Babb he has not talked to Haley since the firing. But PRIOR Haley had stated that he thought he was being bugged.
The dude had major issues with Paranoia. It reminds me of a friend who suffered from Bi-Polar.
Hue Jackson would like to have a press conference with you.
I’ve never seen a coach who has accomplished less treat his staff and other coaches that way.
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 17, 2012 6:03 AM CST up reply actions
not to mention Tom Cable
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Yeah, through a temp agency
With a 12 month limit apparently.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
by TRSChief on Jan 17, 2012 7:18 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
He Also CONSIDERED RESIGNING halfway through the season
Another first for me. Outside of Bobby Petrino, I can’t remember the last time a head coach would contemplate quitting their team half-way through the season.
It’s not like Pioli was threatening the Mafia on the guy or the lives of his loved ones. We’ve always seen Scott as fairly cool in public situations. Relaxed dude with Boy Scout perfectionist attitude.
source?
It’s not like Pioli was threatening the Mafia on the guy or the lives of his loved ones.
you sound like Scott Pioli’s paid shill … seriously, you wait almost two months after the fact to post this, and do it when there’s shit going on … not about Haley, but about Pioli
hmmmm … can the name Shackett be rearranged to spell I M Scott Pioli? yeah, I think so …
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Does Pioli pay well for this kind of thing?
Many fans here saw Denver playing that first series like they knew the Chiefs’ every move. I will always admire Haley for the finger wag. Every OC change has a perfectly logical explanation. I hope Crennel keeps Muir just so you don’t have to worry about his sanity.
After that, this article plunges into blatant attack mode pretty quickly. You act like coaches never get upset or say the F-word. Follow some other coach around for 3 years. Is Gunther Cunningham mental ill? How about Hue Jackson? Rex Ryan?
I do have to give you credit, however. The timing was impeccable. Exactly when all eyes are on Pioli, Haley again becomes the problem.
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
I know Thorman doesn't!
Does Pioli pay well for this kind of thing?
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Shackett is just putting his ideas down in a post................there are two sides to a story
….Whether we agree or not is a whole different story. I do see Haley as a Skitzo ; ) oopps sorry about that. No, I really do think Haley had some paranoia going on. Maybe it is part of his DNA or maybe he was driven to it by “inner” pressures. Haley always seemed like a spoiled kid to me, the “country club” upbringing type thing.
Who knows what really has happened. I personally don’t think he has a disorder, I do believe he had,
mythreebestplayerstoretheiraclbeforetheseasoneverreallybeganandthereisnowaywecanwinwithoutthemandcasselisallwehaveandhesucks-itis.
"Well, I'm near the end and I... just ain't got the time........"
oh ... ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah, I see what you did there! good timing on that psychological disorder nick, eh?
hey … waitjustaminutehere … you don’t suppose that Ron is really Todd … nahhhhhhhhhhh
question for you, Masons: is it possible (to you) that Haley felt paranoid because of Pioli and what he perceived as going on? (obviously he, Haley, did get the perception, the question is WHY and FROM WHERE)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
hence the "inner" pressures
…..who knows what really went/is going on. We will have to get the “mole” to speak, i still think it’s Joel’s dog Cassie but I digress ; )
"Well, I'm near the end and I... just ain't got the time........"
And that's fine
Perhaps the dude burned out and Pioli began to clash w/ him.
But my point is that the Phone Tapping charge is pretty intense. Phone tapping federal crime that involves prison time.
Now lets think of what we know logically….
1. Haley thought he was being phone tapped. He decided to tell this to Kent Babb (not veteran Adam Tiecher) prior to being fired after the Jets horrible loss.
2. He brough Babb aside in the CHIEFS conference room to tell him that he was worried about the place being bugged. Now… if you thought , logically, that a place was being bugged ….why would you EVER tell a person who works for the MEDIA that theory in a place that you claimed was bugged?
3. Reports loomed in that Haley said something about Bowe in an argument during practice before the Jets game. Those words were the final straw between Pioli and Haley. Within the same week, Haley decides to confront a journalist and tell him everything he knows about the Chiefs “evil” organization ?
To me …. Babb = Haley’s voice and frustration. Babb has an inside contract with Haley and because Haley has an NDA, Babb writes quotes anonymously.
Do I believe that rooms have high security in them? Yes. And they probably should. You should watch what happens in locker rooms. If a fight breaks out, you should know how it happened. Pioli nor his staff have time to watch every minute of every day.
But Phone Tapping….. ( See DELUSIONS)
http://www.schizophrenic.com/content/schizophrenia/symptoms/schizophrenia-symptoms
btw, Hackett ... awesome job of crreating a diversion for Pioli with this post ... the perfect strawman
I find it odd that there seems to be so much animosity towards Haley NOW, yet a year ago when he didn’t shake McHoodie’s hand he was practically revered for it
when he had the pre-season blowup with Harbaugh and the Ravens, etc, he was merely being “competitive” … anything that’s ever happened on the sidelines was a result of his “passion for the game”
now, suddenly, he’s attacked by virtually everyone …
regarding Pioli, I do have one question: how much “proof” of abuse or endangerment does Social Services require before removing a child from the parents/home? I ask because all too often I read of children who end up dead (or nearly so) and in the article it often says that “protective services had been called in the past” … so what proof is needed? a body?
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Child Protective Services from the other angle:
Well-meaning father trying to keep a teenage daughter off drugs and non-pregnant. Daughter sicks CPS on him, manipulating the system to get her way.
would of ≠ would've
by hmills110 on Jan 17, 2012 7:28 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
taken to it's logical conclusion ...
… daughter is removed from home, gets pregnant, ends up on drugs, dies of overdose, child is made ward of the state
I understand your point, Prof … the pendulum swings both ways, etc
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When I lived in Flordia their social services agency was the largest state agency in the nation.
Kids were removed from homes for verbal abuse. Once the state found themselves flooded with beligerent kids, they built “boot camps” in the Everglades to teach them discipline!
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 17, 2012 8:19 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not really sure about the CPS analogy
But usually children don’t go to the media. They go to the authorities with these things. Whether it was the Police or the NFL itself.
It’s not like Haley doesn’t come from nowhere. His father is NFL pedigree. He’s one of 32 coaches in the NFL.
What would Pioli , Haley’s boss, get from wire tapping his phone. Extra info on the game plan? He already gets that in the film room…. What Haley really thinks of him? It’s pretty certain that Pioli already knew that.
The point being was that Haley wasn’t that great of a coach to command so much inside interest from. His personal life or way he handled things was also on the table for everyone to see.
Heh you definitely have a selective memory, ups
There was always plenty of animosity toward Haley. It waxed and waned depending on how well our guys were playing. But you can’t possibly mis-remember things to the point of thinking it was all sunshine and puppy dogs regarding Haley here around AP and elsewhere.
I spent a good deal of time defending the guy against some pretty rampant bashing, even at times when I wasn’t really in support of him or his actions – just because the Haley-bashing was so vicious at times.
Did we exist in two different realities for the last couple of years or something?
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
oh, I remember that full well ... but there were a lot more people defending him than attacking
let me put it this way: I did NOT like Haley when he first got here and played Mr Hardass Guy and said so … and was summarily blasted from all sides by a bazillion people for saying that
second year Haley was the ultimate here … what I noticed was a softening in his stance, the going to movies thing, remember that? indeed, I noticed a change in him halfway thru 2009 (and mentioned it several times then and later) … in 2010 the team played hard for him and we got to the playoffs (despite having a team in need of more talent, primarily because of a supersoft schedule, but hey … we won the games we needed to win)
and indeed, I ended up changing my mind and thinking “well, sees like Haley is learning from his mistakes yadda yadda” … again, the point is that he was vigorously defended and promoted by a LOT of people … at least so long as the team was winning
Mom always liked you best!
Sure, but this part
I find it odd that there seems to be so much animosity towards Haley NOW, yet a year ago when he didn’t shake McHoodie’s hand he was practically revered for it
Tries to make it sound like nobody every said anything bad about Haley until he just got fired. Which is very very far from being true. The guy was lambasted daily for 2.6 years. Sometimes rightfully so, sometimes just in the name of complete made-up bullshit.
I’m not a fan of witch hunts. In either direction. Just how even though I don’t think Cassel should be “the guy” as the locked-in guaranteed starting QB, I’m not going to call him names and act like a spoiled child about it – something that goes on an awful lot around here. I’ll just say that I hope the front office gets us some better candidates to compete with him, and that the coaches develop and promote accordingly, because I’d like to win and do it consistently.
Dammit.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
there were a LOT more people praising and defending Haley during that time than anything else
Tries to make it sound like nobody every said anything bad about Haley until he just got fired
my point/issue here isn’t Haley, it’s about perception … this particular post seems to be an attempt at “diversion” from the Pioli thing (the Babb article that’s still brewing) and an attempt to refocus blame and attention elsewhere
now, top that off with so many people defending Pioli when it appears that Pioli could well be the reason for some of Haley’s actions to begin with … we tend to “shoot the messenger” instead of looking for the reason that there’s a message to begin with
Mom always liked you best!
But you have a side of the story that you already *want* to be true
So you only perceive the opposite side more.
There’s just as many on both sides. Some creaming for Pioli’s head no matter what. And some vehemently defending the guy, no matter what.
People all too often predetermine what they want to be true and then only see the things they want to see that back up that desire. Very few want to just find out things as they actually happened. There’s that ingrained need to be “right” that is much more important than the need to find out the truth.
Anyone who thinks Pioli can do no wrong no matter what is going to only really take note of those calling for his head, and tend to minimize in their minds the others who are also 110% pro-Pioli. And those who are on a constant witch hunt are only going to note those defending Pioli, and in their minds they see some lopsided ratio of defenders vs detractors.
It just isn’t so.
It's no fun if I have to explain it.
Very true.
But I think this article is an (extremely) good example of what you are saying.
If it wasn’t for the accursed paycheck, would I really imprison myself in this dungeon of the human soul?
by electriclight on Jan 17, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
he deserved to be attacked
Over the Tyler Palco debacle alone
In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti
by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Jan 18, 2012 12:44 AM CST up reply actions
But... but... there were perfectly good reasons for Palko to be playing! Because, Orton was too new, and Stanzi just isn't ready, so Palko gave us our best chance to...
I can’t do it, I can’t type that without a part of me dying inside.
Strawman is a bit harsh...
I don’t think that Hackett did that on purpose. Still, there’s some dysfunction at One Arrowhead… at least if you believe info brought to light by disgruntled ex-employees. Hell, I’m a disgruntled current employee at my business. At least until the thought police read what I posted here.
Paranoia, they destroya – Kinks
I dunno.
I think Haley has a pretty thick skin, and when he’s with his guys, he dishes it out and can take it. But not everybody responds to a guy being blunt with them. Haley wanted guys who’d respond positively to his sharp tongue. I think you get all kinds and need to coach all kinds. That doesn’t mean treating people differently, but it does mean taking an approach that sets standards AND shows respect.
I think that’s where Crennel comes in. I just hope he can walk that line, and still demand and receive the best from his guys. Sometimes a player’s coach is wildly popular, but through no apparent fault of his own, people get hurt, because they’re not training and conditioning properly.
would of ≠ would've
"Haley clearly picks a fight with Bill Muir in this video and walks off. Muir, a veteran coach, seems furious at Haley's childish actions at this point. Haley went through 4 Offensive Co-ordinaters in 4 years."
You can find video of Parcells shoving Haley when they were with Dallas if you look for it. And Haley didn’t go through 4 O coordinators in 4 years, A. He wasn’t here 4 years and B. He only went through Muir, Weis and Gailey.
If you’re going to write an attack article at least get the facts correct.
Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
you aren't counting himeself
He took over and had to be replaced as the signal caller. 4 in 3 years.
The PARCELLS vs HALEY video was different. Parcells was talking to the refs to explain a call to him. Haley actually came to him an continued to argue w/ him as he was talking to the head official.
You don’t cut the REFS off in a conversation. Especially if you are the WRs coach. It’s an amateur move.
I finally get some Chief talk on sports radio here in NY, not the kind I wanted or The Chiefs want.......
"Well, I'm near the end and I... just ain't got the time........"
HE'S BEEN GONE FOR TWO MONTHS.....
The point of this now is?
"...and we're gonna be ready for them"!
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck".
agreed
let it go, man. what is the point of assassinating his character with 10 second you tube clips?
my guess is
This is related to the news that is being spread around as of late.
by TheScreenName on Jan 17, 2012 3:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If anyone has a mental disorder
It is Candy Pioli.
Nicknames I have coined:
Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'
Without Haley the following does not happen...
Derrick Johnson becoming one of the top MLB in the NFL
Bowe becoming a true #1 WR
Charles becoming the runner he his now
Excellent conditioning program
Arguably our three best players (Hali as a OLB wouldn’t have been good regardless) are what they are because of Haley. Whether people realize it or not, that’s the purpose of coaching and Haley (not Crennel, not Pioli, not anyone else) got them were they are today. As a chief fan, I’m thankful for making these players what they are and not simply lost talents.
Isn’t making players better the principle quality of a good coach? Without Haley, DJ and Bowe would be under darker skies and Charles a situational 3rd down back at best.
by OneChiefs on Jan 17, 2012 9:38 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
how the hell do we know?
Dj bowe and everyone else only are where they are because of haley? Cassel had a great year under weis, and crennel has a huge impact on defense. Haley may get some credit,but shouldnt get all or even most. He hasnt been stable since he has been here. I liked him but we never seemed to be a fully functioning team. Yo-Yo is what we were
by TheScreenName on Jan 17, 2012 9:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
DJ and Bowe yes, Charles nah ... but DJ and Bowe for sure
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bowe huh?
Bowe seemed to have a hell of a rookie season before haley was here..hard for me to credit haley fully
by TheScreenName on Jan 18, 2012 4:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Good stuff
Haley just doesn’t know how to work with people. Ironically, he claims he was in a toxic environment, ha. Glad this dudes not around anymore.
Hey ain't Missouri one of the biggest Meth places around? Haley kinda looks like he
found a supply. I don’t think they piss test coaches, do they? And Meth is known to create mental disorders. Har Har
FWIW
Haley looks more like a coke head than a meth head.
Nicknames I have coined:
Jamaal Charles = 'Haley's Comet'
Shaun Smith = 'Big Nasty'
Kelly Gregg = 'Old Gregg'
The guy did a lot for the KC Community
and we still have dbags trying to put devil horns on him because he didn’t like how he ran an entertainment business.
Jesus, I’d gtfo here too.
Best wishes Haley, sorry you weren’t a good fit here.
by MichaelMantastic on Jan 18, 2012 8:13 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
The guy made a mockery of our sidelines and there are still people trying to put halos on him.
by fishhooks on Jan 18, 2012 10:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
oh, I think Cassel, Palko and some of the other players did that quite nicely w/o help from Haley
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Good Grief
Who’s the conspiracy theorist here? Kent Babb being a reporting or you guys who want to call Todd Haley a nutjob and discredit Kent Babb altogether? Here’s the fact. This idea of paranoia has existed before Kent Babb’s story. Jim Trotter blurted it out during an interview on Nick Wright’s show. That’s a guy for Sports Illustrated. Quit being “Likes to go there guy”. The victim is not always at fault. The media is not always wrong. Get real.
I’d say it must be nice to be on the Chiefs payroll, but those people hate their job.
shhhhhhhhhh! someone might hear you ...
… and close the blinds, someone might see Palko practicing his INT’s!
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
lol...great mental pic (wait should I've said that on this post? oh well) of Ups
I pictured UPS in one of those ol black & white movies wearin a fedora and matchin trenchcoat, holdin a snub nosed .38 peering out the blinds….
Nothin' quite like hearing 78k plus chanting "We're gonna BEAT the hell OUTTA YOU YOU"
by Copperhead Road on Jan 18, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
LOL
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"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
random and or related thoughts on these video clips...
1: Why would anyone want to shake hands with someone you suspect of cheating? Especially if they just beat you.
2: How many times has anyone of us has wanted to tell a co-worker F-You?
Or maybe Norv or Rivers was on the line :)
3: Maybe confrontation is Haley’s best (only?) motivational tactic?
4: A show of hands; who here hasn’t gotten drunk in the P&L and ended up on KCTV5?
5: I just don’t like or care about the Ravens, well not so much the team mostly #52.
6: I really liked that he got into Cassel’s face for that stupid play instead of running for the endzone. I recall cussing at the TV also.
Nothin' quite like hearing 78k plus chanting "We're gonna BEAT the hell OUTTA YOU YOU"
by Copperhead Road on Jan 18, 2012 7:49 PM CST reply actions
avtually he ended up taking all the players to the movies ... twice I believe, had a "movie night" (that horrible, awful, mean Haley)
Maybe confrontation is Haley’s best (only?) motivational tactic?
and allowed the players to play Cornhole in the locker room … how horrible of him! and got upset at his players, yeah … tragic right there, not a single coach in the NFL has ever done that
just look at Hoodie: all smiles all the time
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Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Maybe
if I had posted Expounded thoughts instead of Random thoughts…I woulda remembered that too :)
avtually he ended up taking all the players to the movies … twice I believe, had a “movie night” (that horrible, awful, mean Haley)
Nothin' quite like hearing 78k plus chanting "We're gonna BEAT the hell OUTTA YOU YOU"
by Copperhead Road on Jan 18, 2012 8:47 PM CST reply actions

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