The "80" or some number less

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 15, 2012 8:39 PM CST

New Year, New Roster, and New Dreams. Hopefully not a Kansas City Chiefs disaster re-run.

These players, the Chiefs have some control on whether we Re-sign them or not.

LB Jovan Belcher (RFA)
S Reshard Langford (ERFA)
TE Jake O’Connell (RFA)
QB Tyler Palko (ERFA)

Everybody else is free to seek employment elsewhere. I might want a Bright shiny new Guard or QB. The Roster says we need some help in other spots to date.

The Currently Signed (46) players for 2012 :

Position	Starter	Starter or Backup	Depth	Depth	Depth	Depth
Offense	-	-	-	-	-	-
Quarterback	Matt Cassel	Ricky Stanzi	-	-	-	-
Halfback	Jamaal Charles	Dexter McCluster	Shaun Draughn	-	-	-
Fullback	Shane Bannon	-	-	-	-	-
Wide Receiver	Steve Breaston	Jonathan Baldwin	Jeremy Horne	Terrance Copper	Jamar Newsome	-
Tight End	Tony Moeaki	-	-	-	-	-
Offensive Tackle	Branden Albert	Steve Maneri	David Mims	-	-	-
Offensive Guard	Ryan Lilja	Jon Asamoah	Rodney Hudson	Darryl Harris	Rob Bruggeman	-
Offensive Center	-	-	-	-	-	-
Specialists	-	-	-	-	-	-
Long Snapper	Thomas Gafford	-	-	-	-	-
Place Kicker	Ryan Succop	-	-	-	-	-
Punter	Dustin Colquitt	-	-	-	-	-
Kick Returner	Dexter McCluster	-	-	-	-	-
Punt Returner	Javier Arenas	-	-	-	-	-
Defense	-	-	-	-	-	-
Nose Tackle	Jerrell Powe	Anthony Toribio	-	-	-	-
Defensive Tackle	Allen Bailey	Brandon Bair	Lucas Patterson	-	-	-
Defensive End	Glenn Dorsey	Tyson Jackson	-	-	-	-
Outside Linebacker	Tamba Hali	Justin Houston	Andy Studebaker	Cameron Sheffield	Gabe Miller	-
Inside Linebacker	Derrick Johnson	Brandon Siler	Demorrio Williams	Cory Greenwood	Caleb Campbell	-
Cornerback	Brandon Flowers	Jalil Brown	Javier Arenas	-	-	-
Safety	Eric Berry	Kendrick Lewis	Donald Washington	-	-	-

Not a roster yet to strike fear in the Elite QB's of the NFL. I have concerns at many Position groups. 2012 is a season to move Forward Big Time or we will Fail Big Time. We have Big Time opponents that have major Flaws themselves. Scott Pioli has to do a good job of managing the positions and elevating the Talent at the same time, only 45 guys are available on game day. This group of 46 is not going to win 10-12 games.

Geaux Chiefs

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I think we need to add OG Grubbs, DT Calais Cambell to that chart via FA.

by the great thunderlips on Jan 15, 2012 9:05 PM CST reply actions

I thought Campbell was a 3-4 End?

agree we need to add some talent

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 15, 2012 9:07 PM CST up reply actions

If they moved Dorsey, Campbell would be a great pickup.

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by saskwatch on Jan 15, 2012 10:27 PM CST up reply actions

why can't we have both?

Why can’t we have starting caliber depth at a few positions anyway?

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 15, 2012 10:41 PM CST up reply actions

Why would he sign here to be a back up?

Or are you referring to Dorsey as the back up

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Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 16, 2012 6:01 AM CST up reply actions

Might be surprised at the front 3's they put on the field, with this group of players.

Maybe even stick Jackson smack dab in the middle of it all.

would of ≠ would've

by hmills110 on Jan 16, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions

Great Post!

Big hole at QB, G, I think Hudson will play Center, OT, NT, and DE depth. Wow

Dexter McCluster

by DrewPorter on Jan 15, 2012 9:31 PM CST reply actions

I would hope Pioli addresses the QB spot with a proven vet this year

Not Palko and not Stanzi

Free Agency might helpus get some O and D linemen.

We seem to be overstocked with Linebackers which is a good thing and understocked in the Secondary

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 15, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions

I don't think we're necessarily understocked in the Secondary

We definately have 4 solid to great starters. Great depth at corner. We just need an upgrade at backup safety

Dexter McCluster

by DrewPorter on Jan 15, 2012 11:53 PM CST up reply actions

That chart doesn't really show everything

Bailey/Bair double as DEs too.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 15, 2012 10:08 PM CST up reply actions

hard to show what Romeo does

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 15, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions

very true

Dexter McCluster

by DrewPorter on Jan 15, 2012 11:53 PM CST up reply actions

True

Hes been nothing short of creative with what he’s got to work with.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 16, 2012 12:54 AM CST up reply actions

Working with that chart

1) Dre Kirkpatrick DB Bama
2) Brandon Washington g Miami
3) Ty Hilton WR FIU
4) Brandon Mosley OT Auburn
5) Jordan White WR West Michigan
6) Lance Mitchell S Oregon state
7a) Hebron Fangupo NT BYU
7b) brandon bolden RB ole miss

Boom!

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 15, 2012 10:37 PM CST reply actions

I have one too :)

1 10 Kansas City David DeCastro OG Stanford
2 43 Kansas City Kendall Wright WRS Baylor
3 73 Kansas City Andrew Datko OT Florida Stat
4 105 Kansas City Doug Martin RBF Boise State
5 138 Kansas City Trumaine Johnson CB Montana
6 169 Kansas City Dominique Hamilton DE34 Missouri
7 201 Kansas City Damon Harrison NT 6’2 340 Lbs William Penn

A thick, girth kid with a really wide trunk, broad set of shoulders and massive lower half. Looks full through both the upper and lower half and is a really wide-bodied kid. Can coil up well into his stance, stays low off the football and can generate a good initial snap off the ball into contact. Keeps his pad level down can gain leverage and there is some good initial get off burst into contact. Consistently is able to rock opposing lineman on contact at the point, works his hands inside and overpowers his way into the backfield. Looks a bit short armed and isn’t real fluid laterally. Not a guy who is going to stack and shed consistently. However, his low pad level, his strong lower half and ability to quickly get off the ball into contact makes him really difficult to move inside when defending the run.

Is limited off his frame, doesn’t run real well, looks a bit top heavy on the move and lacks the range to be effective in space. Isn’t a gifted pass rusher either. Has the power to develop as a bull rush guy and push the pocket some. However, his lacking length makes it tough for him to routinely keep himself clean. Nevertheless, the guy has a nose for the football. Showcases good snap awareness, gets off the ball on time and consistently locates the play quickly. Exhibits some coordination in the lower half and a little short area quickness when trying to avoid contact, and with his combination of power and leverage can simply man handle opponents through contact once he gains a step and close on the football. Was extremely productive as a senior leading the team in tackles and tackles for loss.

Impression: The kind of physically put together kid who can develop as a nose in either a 34 o4 43 front. In a weaker senior class at DT I would rather roll the dice on this higher upside kid than most of the average senior later guys at bigger schools.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=100018

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 15, 2012 11:00 PM CST up reply actions

Don't really like where that puts us secondary-wise

Particularly at corner, but I could dig it. I think Kendall wright goes in the first personally otherwise id have picked him instead of Washington.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 15, 2012 11:50 PM CST up reply actions

Not a bad draft at all

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Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 16, 2012 6:03 AM CST up reply actions

Kendall Wright? I like him but isn't he a bit undersized?............

…………………..seems to be another Dex in a way. I know he has been compared to Steve Smith in Carolina, which talent wise is a great thing but attitude wise, I’ll pass! Seems like a good kid so I don’t think the attitude issues are there. I also am afraid he was made to look good by a pretty accurate passer, what do you guys think?

"Well, I'm near the end and I... just ain't got the time........"

by Masons on Jan 16, 2012 7:56 AM CST up reply actions

A mixture of both

But take Wrights stats away from RG3 and he is just another average QB.

Kendall Wright was HUGE for Baylors offense…I would love to have him.

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by Matt_Grbac on Jan 16, 2012 1:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

He is going to go very high, I just don't think a 1st or 2nd would be worth it, you?

"Well, I'm near the end and I... just ain't got the time........"

by Masons on Jan 16, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions

Definitely worth it

He’s the next Steve smith only team-oriented

Not like Dex at all, just because he’s smallish doesn’t mean he’s the next dexter McCluster

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 16, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions

Nice, yea I don't want another Dex.............

He’s the next Steve smith only team-oriented

That is what I wanted to hear!

"Well, I'm near the end and I... just ain't got the time........"

by Masons on Jan 16, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions

Ha

I’ve seen the William Penn nose tackle play. No thanks.

Your eyes tell you more than any statistics can.

by kc_radrh8r on Jan 17, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions

Scratch one Flyer :)

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 17, 2012 6:21 PM CST up reply actions

who ARE these guys?

I don’t mean like Hali and Cassel and Colquitt these guys, I mean like Bob Bruggerman and Jamar Newsome these guys …

I mean, really? who knew!

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by upamtn on Jan 16, 2012 7:26 AM CST reply actions

Steve knows, he always knows....hoot hoot

"Well, I'm near the end and I... just ain't got the time........"

by Masons on Jan 16, 2012 7:56 AM CST up reply actions

The more I look at that defense, the more I like it.......

…….Powe, Bailey, Dorsey
…….Hali, Houston
…….DJ, Kuechley
…….Carr, Flowers
…….Berry, Guy

"Well, I'm near the end and I... just ain't got the time........"

by Masons on Jan 16, 2012 8:01 AM CST reply actions

this is only if DeCastro is taken and The big three OL are off the board, relax Ups ; )

"Well, I'm near the end and I... just ain't got the time........"

by Masons on Jan 16, 2012 8:03 AM CST up reply actions

schweetness!

by upamtn on Jan 16, 2012 8:12 AM CST up reply actions

Anyone else say who is shaun draugn

by PSUkegreen on Jan 16, 2012 4:07 PM CST reply actions

We know Sabby Piscatelli now :)

I hope we put some talent between Charles and Draugn
some after Moeaki
some before or after Jalil Brown
and someone to compete with Hudson at Center

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 16, 2012 6:49 PM CST up reply actions

Steve Maneri as Right Tackle

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 16, 2012 6:50 PM CST reply actions

I'd take him

as the “extra lineman” in big sets. I like the guy but I’m not sold yet on him starting…but I definitely want to get him on the field more in 2012. I think he makes Richardson expendable if we pick up an OT in the off-season.

Your eyes tell you more than any statistics can.

by kc_radrh8r on Jan 17, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions

or two?

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 17, 2012 6:21 PM CST up reply actions

Possibly

In my mind, a/any NFL team needs 7 quality, ready-to-play-at-any-minute linemen even though they’ll likely have 8 on the active roster and likely dress all 8 for a game. You gotta have the obvious starting 5, a swing tackle who is the usual 6th lineman who reports eligible in big formations, a backup interior lineman with snapping capabilities and, if an 8th is carried, generally a project-type guy.

With that said, we currently have the following under contract entering 2012:
1. LT (Albert)
2. LG (Lilja)
3. C (Hudson)
4. RG (Asamoah)
5. RT __________
6. swing (Maneri)
7. interior __________
8. project (Mims)

Now maybe Darryl Harris is the 7th but I don’t know. While I have no doubts that DeCastro is a beast, it still leaves me uncomfortable with the depth at center if anything ever happens to Hudson. That is why I’d much rather draft a true center (like Wisconsin’s Konz) and slide Hudson to LG and Lilja to the bench. Then, worst case scenario, if anything happens to Hudson, Lilja slides in. If anything happens to Asamoah, Lilja slides in. And if anything happens to Konz, Hudson moves over and Lilja slides in. Just my opinion…

Your eyes tell you more than any statistics can.

by kc_radrh8r on Jan 17, 2012 7:12 PM CST up reply actions

I was reading a DeCastro Scouting report that says he can play Center

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Pair-of-Stanford-linemen-set-to-succeed-at-the-next-level.html

As a pass blocker, he is very steady, again getting his hands on his opponent quickly, playing with bend and has good mirror skills. He slides his feet well, can recover versus moves and anchors. He consistently looks to finish both run and pass blocks. Like with his run blocking, his hand use is very good. Overall, DeCastro is a solid guard prospect who should also be able to play center at the next level but I doubt he could play outside. He has the talent and tenacity to start early in his career. While I don’t like to draft a guard in the first round unless they have some special traits, it wouldn’t surprise me if DeCastro went in the first. I don’t see a special player but I see a damn good one.

by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 17, 2012 7:42 PM CST up reply actions

Ehhhh

I’m not a big fan of assuming guys can play in spots they’ve never played before. For all I know, some team will draft him, move him to center and he’ll go on to an entire decade of pro bowls, but I just don’t like assuming that guys can do something they’ve never done. Sure, he can probably handle nose tackles with ease, but I hate to assume he can be comfortable snapping the ball and then doing that based on his size and other things. Just look at Phil Costa or whoever he is from the Cowboys and all of the snap problems they had this year. Seems much simpler than it really is.

Your eyes tell you more than any statistics can.

by kc_radrh8r on Jan 17, 2012 7:59 PM CST up reply actions