The OLine that plays together, stays together ... sounds like an idea for the Chiefs

The Saints have bucked recent trends in the way they’ve built their offensive front.

While a top priority for many teams is finding an elite tackle to protect their quarterback’s blind side, the Saints placed more emphasis on their interior line, acquiring and keeping two of the best guards in the NFL in the 6-foot-4, 318-pound Evans and 6-5, 343-pound Nicks.

With the middle of the line strong enough to hold its ground consistently, offensive tackles don’t have to tie up defensive ends so much as divert them into a wider rout into the backfield while Brees steps up in the pocket.

"Other teams don’t do that because they can’t," Strief said. "It’s not like we came up with something no one ever thought of. It’s just that we have an interior that can do it."

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I'm all in for DeCastro my friend, but what are you going to do when he is selected before The Chiefs pick ; )

"Well, I'm near the end and I... just ain't got the time........"

by Masons on Jan 13, 2012 2:00 PM CST reply actions

dude ...

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by upamtn on Jan 13, 2012 2:02 PM CST up reply actions

OK.......now, how about The Chiefs get Decastro and then make Konz happen as well?!?

"Well, I'm near the end and I... just ain't got the time........"

by Masons on Jan 13, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions

that, Sir, would be a sickly huge powerful OLine with Asamoah ...

… and Steve would be very, very happy

by upamtn on Jan 13, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions

More triv for ya Ups....sig line, what song? no cheating!

"Well, I'm near the end and I... just ain't got the time........"

by Masons on Jan 13, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions

Traffic did that first, didn't they?

by upamtn on Jan 13, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions

Ups will never find his way home...

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 13, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions

who says you can't go home? there's only one place they call me one of their own ...

by upamtn on Jan 13, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions

These guys mention it a couple of times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT-SFgkVlno&feature=related

For your viewing pleasure…

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
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by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 13, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions

Shoulda been there when I threw some Static X at him the other day.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Jan 13, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions

Oh wow I havn't heard Static-X in forever

Come to think of it.. didn’t Wayne just put out a new album?

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 13, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions

John?

didn’t Wayne just put out a new album

by upamtn on Jan 13, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions

Blind Faith

"Well, I'm near the end and I... just ain't got the time........"

by Masons on Jan 13, 2012 6:00 PM CST up reply actions

those two go wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy back

Winwood started in the Spencer Davis Group …

by upamtn on Jan 13, 2012 6:04 PM CST up reply actions

Got to be my favorite song......

"Well, I'm near the end and I... just ain't got the time........"

by Masons on Jan 13, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions

and it would make Hudson a wasted 2nd rounder last year

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 13, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions

so it may................best man wins

"Well, I'm near the end and I... just ain't got the time........"

by Masons on Jan 13, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions

he'd be one helluva backup ;)

was thinking that … would kind of depend on what offense the new OC wants … ZBS or Power Blocking scheme?

(Power Blocking for Jamaal Charles … a Hit and Run Offense?)

by upamtn on Jan 13, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions

Jamaal is much more suited for a ZBS

Actually he’s tailor-made for it, he might not be do good in a PBS.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 13, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions

even he wouldn't mind an OLine that opens huge holes to run thru with sheer power

as long as there’s a lane, he’s happy with it

by upamtn on Jan 13, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions

depends on how big the holes are

we definitely don’t have the lineman for a power game…

Heck we barely have the lineman for a ZBS.

Albert
Asamoah
Hudson

are here to stay, anybody else wonder how Richardson would do with a move inside. He is big, but so is Carl Nicks… ah just thinking out loud.

Albert- Asamoah-Hudson-Richardson-Draft pick

Nah, it would probably never work…plus Asamoah is a fine RG

Mayhaps

Albert-Richardson-Husdon-Asamoah-Draft Pick/Mims…

it’s too bad we didn’t keep Gaither.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 13, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions

Albert and Asamoah could work in the power scheme IMO

That does leave Hudson out.. not sure he could bulk up enough to be a power scheme center

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 13, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions

it could be done

but it forcing… like you are always talking about LB’s not fitting a system.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 13, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions

I'm not sure, I know at the combine when he showed up at 300

You could tell he just put the weight on, wasn’t actually bulked up. Really top heavy, if a year with the Chiefs has gotten some of that muscle down in his lower body it could work if we still pair him with a larger guard

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 13, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions

We both know this team is better suited for ZBS upfront

we just need some competent coaches to teach it to the players, game plan and execute on the field with proper play calling…

Rodney Hudson is going to be a great lineman along with Jon Asamoah for years to come. Hopefully he is our center.

Either way, we should see some improvement up front… or at least the illusion with the return of Charles and hopefully better QB play.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 13, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions

and DeCastro is PERFECT as ZBS OG

Albert-DeCastro-Hudson-Asamoah-SomeoneNotNamedBRich

yeah, I could see that :-)

by upamtn on Jan 13, 2012 4:47 PM CST up reply actions

Well the last time we picked a first round guard it worked out okay I guess...

You can’t go wrong with an oline in the first round, but I have a feeling that the Chiefs will end up trading down out of that pick.

I’m surprised you are so sold on a Stanford product that was working in front of the best QB prospect in recent years next to Martin as well… That has to factor into to his grade.

On the surface it smells of a Ryan Sims situation. In the coming months a lot of these names well be spewed around here and I haven’t found mine yet.

To the draft cave Batman!

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 13, 2012 4:57 PM CST up reply actions

Sidenote:

To me, that is like begging for Tom Brady’s lineman or pleading to have Manning’s front. The great QB makes a difference to how good the line looks.

Not saying they aren’t great lineman, but how would they look with a lesser QB back there?

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 13, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions

I understand that concern ...

then too, how would Luck do with a lesser OLine in front of him? if he DIDN’T have like all day to pass?

by upamtn on Jan 13, 2012 5:06 PM CST up reply actions

and think about it: get a good enough OLine and WR's and system ... almost any QB can look good

Schaub in Texas for starters … look what Flynn did vs Lions when he had time to throw

you don’t HAVE to have an elite QB, you just need a killer good OLine, WR’s who run the routes correctly (and can catch) and a QB good enough to deliver the ball

by upamtn on Jan 13, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions

I still contend that most of the Chiefs problems were scheme up front.

If they get some good coaches in there and teach better protections it will make a world of difference IMO.

Bill Muir took onto too much responsibility this season and it showed on the line and it is obvious to me, that Pat Perles is not the answer at OL coach, so I hope he doesn’t get the promotion.

As far as Luck goes, it is hard to say. I would just prefer a OL that did it all on an island and made a bad QB look good. Because they will need that experience here if Stanzi, Cassel or Orton plays in 2012.

I wouldn’t be against DeCastro or Martin… just wary.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Jan 13, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions

DeCastro was the RG, Martin LT

Not like they were next to eachother, it’s a lot easier to gauge the performance unlike the Sims situation

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 14, 2012 6:08 AM CST up reply actions

Yeah that's the only situation where Konz comes into play

If the new OC wants to switch schemes.

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 13, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions

if not, we can go with Fleener in 2nd, or a RT "project" (Sanders?) or ...

by upamtn on Jan 13, 2012 4:48 PM CST up reply actions

DeCastro then Sanders.. works for me

maybe Adams if he falls

Albert-DeCastro-Hudson-Asamoah-Sanders/Adams/FA/Rook

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 14, 2012 6:09 AM CST up reply actions

What if Decastro is there and the chiefs don't take him?

And draft something out of the top 3 needs?
I would love our interior to be set for the next 10 seasons… Also drafting a second round tackle would be nice. OR RESIGN GAITHER FOR THE LEFT SIDE LOL

by Kcbiggyblue on Jan 13, 2012 2:19 PM CST reply actions

Offensive Line is indeed one of this team's top 3 needs ... I believe Pioli pretty much said as much already

by upamtn on Jan 13, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions

I was thinking about our line in the mid 2000's 04-06

and thought that was a crazy good offensive interior. Weigmann, Shields, and Waters but even the outside was set with Roaf and Tait. Looking back at that roster, jeesh, that Offense was loaded. Then looking at the defense was so pathetic.

Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.

by Fozzyboyd on Jan 13, 2012 2:54 PM CST reply actions

saints OL

The Saints G-C-G trio is the best in football. they are the perfect linemen for Drew Brees, who is a short quarterback who relies on the interior OL to give him clear vision to see the field and step up and sling it downfield. Also, their running backs are between the tackle runners, perfect for that interior offensive line.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t the Chiefs ask their guards to pull more instead of be stationary on running plays?I think if the Chiefs go with an offensive lineman in the first round, it would be a guard or tackle who is excels at pulling on running plays because of the running style of Jamaal Charles.

by michaelaglover on Jan 13, 2012 3:38 PM CST reply actions