Brandon Carr On Returning To The Chiefs In 2012

some of these guys that are talking above me, I’m surprises no NFL teams have shown interests in hiring them to become their GM….. /s
Truth is, we don’t know the real financial numbers behind the Chiefs as a organization. Isn’t 2012 the year where 98-99% of the salary cap have to be spent according to the new CBA?

Bowe, i can see, just franchise tag him, not that big of deal. But Carr is ridiculous, someone could way over pay for him and he’s gone. If chiefs had taken care of this already, wouldn’t be an issue.

I THINK it’s safe to say that Carr can’t reasonably ask for or expect more money than Flowers got. I believe Flowers got $50.6 for 6 years, $22 guaranteed? If he wants more, I think they’ll let him walk.

Another comparison would be Cromartie, since he is a good second corner. He signed for $32 for 4 years, $14 guaranteed.

So maybe $35/5, $20 guaranteed? I think that would be reasonable. Thoughts?

what team needs him?

differernce is carr will last in the nfl if healthy, hobbs had those issues, but put up identical numbers in a 16 game season.

i would hope carr gets his money, its a mistake that we even have 2 big time players and 1 tag as is….

and those mentioning “at least we pay our own”…yes….pioli has paid dj and charles and hali and flowers, but my issue with that is simply the lack of free agent activity allows for signing our own talent that we draft…..carr is one of those players, or should be, he gets along with our secondary, take him out, and there is just another freakin hole on our defense that will need to be plugged, or we find ourselves hoping somehow someway jalil brown is ready….

sigh

There is NO financial incentive for Mr. Carr to sign now. He (or at least his agent) knows that there will be a bit of a bidding war for his services, with good cornerbacks being highly sought after. It may ultimately work out for the Chiefs, but if it were me I’d certainly test the market to drive up the final contract.

Carr has quietly became one of solid cb for the Chiefs. I always stress this; the defense wins championship so if it came down to it, I would rather the Chiefs tag Carr than Bowe.

This defense is almost a complete unit for 2012…if Pioli plays the offseason just right like last year, drafting wisely and sign the right FA for right price, they can be very scary under the guide of new Head Coach Romeo who will keep calling the plays while retaining most of the defense staffs. I believe we won’t miss Bowe if they fix the line on both sides first because the war is won in the trenches.

it should be easy, if he wants to be back. the money should work itself out.

we saved money for this very reason…unless he wants out, no reason to low ball one of our own.

into their first contract post draft….and with the new CBA, more money is available to veterans. They are playing positions where many teams will overpay for their services and this is most likely their last contract in the NFL, but definitely their last big contract. If I were them, I would look for the best deal as well.

Nnamdi Asomugha got 5 years $60 mil. We need to go 5 years $50 mil (20 guaranteed). So he’s close to Flowers but not quite as close.

WE HAVE THE $$$$$$$$$$

i think that this part of his quote “but at the end of the day it’s going to be my decision to make” is rather telling.

He didn’t say “hey the ball is in Pioli’s court, we’ve told them what we want”

so just to be different I’m gonna say “C’MON CARR, take the $$ and stay”

:)

to Occupy Pioli’s House. Same goes for Bowe.

One benefit to having a DC like RAC was that you could "plug N play quite a few “average” players who excel or come very close in his systems.

Probably the biggest and best example are DE’s like Shaun Smith, but I really think cornerback meets this bill as well. Was Ty Law ever at the same level after leaving NE?

Every good coach has at least one position like this. For Herm it was secondary, he could get more out of a guy than other coaches. For RAC I think its all positions on defense.

Having said that, I like Carr, but we can get an average guy to do a really good job with RAC as DC. Why pay top dollar for CB’s who are only gonna help just a wee bit more?

Also, RAC is now HC, so it remains to be seen if he will have the same impact with these players, but I think it will. I see virtually 0 dropoff in play from these guys.

On top of that consider that Eric Berry will be back next year and Kendrick Lewis will help with any WR’s lined up on our number 2 corner.

I just dont see a big return on our investment at this particular position by paying top dollar. I see a much better return if we invest in other spots, like the OL, DL, and QB positions.

He knows that this team was three victories away from the playoffs this year and with all the major players returning to the team next year, on top of the Broncos probably not being so good next year because of winning the division and the inconsistency of the Chargers and Raiders, he knows this team has a good shot of bouncing back and winning the division. The defense might be a top 5 D next year with Crennel being the head coach, so why not come back?

Thats asking too much to have 2 DB get paid that kind of money. DJ, Flowersm JC and Tamba all resigned because they WANT to be a Chief. If his heart isnt w/ the Chiefs best he goes, i want guys who take pride in putting on that uniform and not for the money. He most def deseves a raise no doubt but jus be fair bout it. Plus ive become a legit fan of Arenas and he has big plays in him too, he shut down elite wr wes welker all game against the PATS.